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>> i pray he'll be a good president and will keep our country at peace and that he'll refrain from using nuclear weapons, and that he will promote human rights. so yeah, i pray for him. >> president carter is the only president to run an administration for an amount of time without a chief of staff, by the way, something we're hearing president trump may be looking into. you are in the "cnn newsroom." it is 5:00 eastern, 2:00 out west. i'm ana cabrera in new york. right now an american city's anger is showing in the voices and the outrage of its people, rallying today to demand accountability from their police department. this is sacramento, california. a crowd gathering this afternoon after a day of mostly peaceful protests. these are people who are mourning the death of stephon clark, and not accepting the
police explanation of how he died. officers opened fire on him because they believed he had a gun. he didn't. in a just released autopsy report, it shows stephon clark was shot six times in the back. cnn's ryan young is in downtown sacramento. ryan, you were talking to people today who knew stephon clark personally. >> reporter: absolutely. this is a tough story from both sides, for everyone involved in the story. so many people have been talking about what has been going on the last few days. we talk about that autopsy that was released, an independent autopsy. the family lawyer had that done by a pathologist. we know that stephon clark was shot in this area and maybe his body turned, according to the attorney, and hit in the back and side. you could hear people gasping as they announced it.
the police chief says they need to make things happen, things need to change but they can't throw out the entire system. this is one woman who was on the stage, not only talking about the loss of stephon clark but also the pain that his brother is going through. first of all, when you talked about stephon, give us the feeling that you had every time he entered the room, that you remember. >> love. love. he was full of love. he was always smiling. he was happy. he wanted everyone around him to feel loved. he wanted them to be happy. >> reporter: so much conversation around the country has been around his brother, clearly his brother is struggling a little bit. talk about that pain you've witnessed. >> what i would like people to understand first and foremost is that stevante is not crazy, not high off any type of drugs. he is suffering from post
traumatic stress syndrome. in addition to that, he's had a psychological snap. there is a different type of process that you go through grieving when someone has been violently taken from you. the normal steps of grieving that one would go through, he has not allowed. and on top of that, this is very public. so he has not had any opportunity to really be able to rest his mind. stevante has lost two of his brothers to gun violence. so it's very traumatic for him, the home that he grew up in is now not only a crime scene, but it is still his home. could you imagine the pain of going home to find bleach stains on the ground from where your brother's blood has attempted to be washed up? what i understand people to understand is, we're calling out for help. we need help in the communities. what he's displaying in his behavior is not as off as people might think.
we just have never had the opportunity to see it. >> reporter: i was glad you brought that point up, in fact people in the crowd started cheering at that point. obviously you have people grieving not only in public but the idea that they've had to watch this video over and over again. they're calling for change, asking for mental health services. they also want a change in the community. i want to thank you so much for taking time with us. ana, back to you. >> ryan young in sacramento, thanks. meantime, new developments in another deadly police shooting. nearly two years after the death of alton sterling, police in baton rouge, louisiana, police have released graphic body cam footage. he was shot six times during an encounter with two police officers in 2016 outside a convenience store. while the officers were cleared of any criminal wrongdoing, one was fired just this week and the other suspended.
this video is extremely disturbing. >> reporter: graphic and disturbing new video. >> sir, what i did? >> move or i'll shoot your [ bleep ]. put your hands on the car. >> reporter: showing the controversial shooting death of alton sterling in july of 2016. officer blane salamoni, who shot sterling six times, will be fired over his actions. >> a violation of command of temper has been sustained. over blane salamoni has been terminated from the baton rouge police department effective today. >> reporter: this week salamoni refused to answer any questions, while howie lake, the other officer involved, answered them all. lake, who the chief said made mistakes but controlled his temper during the encounter, was given a three-day unpaid suspension. >> one officer did not follow the tactics, training,
professionalism, and organizational standards. >> reporter: the police chief making it clear their administrative administration was separate from the federal criminal charges both officers were already cleared of. the police department released four videos from the night of the shooting, including this surveillance footage from the triple s convenience store. that's sterling at the front of the store, sitting at a table where he's selling cd's. minutes into the tape, he's seen conducting a transaction with an unidentified man. here he removes what appears to be a gun from his front pocket followed by money from the same pocket. within seconds sterling is seen jokingly making a shooting motion towards the man. that night, police were initially called to the triple s convenience store, responding to a 911 call from a witness who saw a man with a gun. watch closely as things escalate quickly. from salamoni's perspective, you can see a brief struggle. then his gun is trained on sterling's head.
>> all right! hold up, you're hurting my arm! >> reporter: sterling was pinned to the ground and tased, twice. >> get on the ground! get on the ground! >> pop him again, howie. >> reporter: before being fatally shot. previously released cellphone video shows that salamoni thought that sterling was armed. officials said that they couldn't prove that sterling wasn't reaching for a gun. >> joining us, the author of the book "they can't kill us all: ferguson, baltimore, and a new movement in racial justice." the body cam video in louisiana
was just released. >> certainly. the first reaction to some extent is a surprise, because we had been led to believe that the body camera video wouldn't show us anything revelatory. now that we've seen this video almost two years after the shooting, we see all types of new details that would have helped us interpret the shooting back in july 2016. what we see is the immediate escalation of the interaction by officer blane salamoni. we see alton sterling being stunned with a taser even as he was at least partially complying. in that moment when the officer tackles him to the ground leading to the shooting, it appears from this video that alton sterling was standing with his hands up. it raises questions about the police tactics even if this new video doesn't raise to the level of prompting legal charges. >> page, on one hand it's hard to watch the video. on the other hand, it's hard not to watch it, it is disturbing on so many levels. we know sterling did have a gun, that's important here. but based on what you witnessed, is there a case to be made that
the officers were justified in how they handled it? >> ana, i don't think they were justified in how they handled it. i understand that both federal authorities and state authorities decided not to pursue criminal charges. but i think when you take these recent videos and put them into context and you think about the officers' actions from the moment they arrived on the scene, they had this mindset that this individual, mr. sterling, is going to comply or he's going to doie. and that is not the legal standard cops are supposed to use in these encounters. it's not a question of compliance. it's a question of whether mr. sterling at that time posed an immediate threat of physical harm to the officers or someone else. the fact that he had a firearm is certainly relevant but he wasn't doing anything with that firearm that put those officers at risk. so yes, i think, and i know that they saw these videos initially, i think that the law enforcement officers who were investigating this case for prosecution would
take a second look at it, perhaps they would reach a different conclusion. >> guys, let's turn to what's happening in sacramento right now in the case of stephon clark. page, the independent autopsy appears to contradict the police account. the autopsy shows clark was shot in the back multiple times. the police involved said clark was coming toward them. how do you interpret this? >> if law enforcement is authorized to fire at a suspect, they're authorized to continue firing at that suspect until he no longer poses a danger. if mr. clark was actually facing the officers and approaching them at the time, which i don't think is crystal clear from the video, once he's not facing them anymore, he clearly poses no risk. he's not approaching them. if he has a cellphone in his hand, once he's turned away from the officers, i don't see how any reasonable officer in that position could perceive mr. clark as a threat of using deadly force and justified in using force to shoot him. and that's really the key here.
it's not whether that officer personally thought, he may have a gun, i need to keep shooting him. it's whether a reasonable officer would have done the same thing. i think if they review this, it may be a tougher call. we may see criminal charges here even if we didn't see them in the sterling case. >> i've participated in officer training simulations to get a sense of what it's like to be in the officer's shoes. they literally have a split second to decide whether to open fire and it can mean life or death for them and for the suspect, of course. is there risk to the public rushing to judgment? >> well, look. i don't necessarily think there is a risk in that. i do think it's important, that's a point well made. i've also participated in those types of drills and simulations. i think it is possible. i think the public does know and appreciate that police officers have at times a very dangerous and tough job. that said, police officers are emissaries of our government.
the police are the government and the way our democracy works is that when the government kills someone, it's our job and obligation to ask questions about not only was this legal but could it have been prevented. we all want to live in a world where the police don't kill anyone. the police first among those folks don't want to kill anyone. i think having these tactical conversations -- there was a piece this weekend in "the national review," a very pro-law-enforcement publication, they argued that these were officers crouched behind a fence, they could have taken one step backwards and reassessed. the idea is very often, i've heard this from police trainers, that the way we train our officers is that everything is forward motion and that sometimes the smartest thing to do is pause, take a step backward and recess what's going on. >> wes lowery and page pate, thank you for the thoughtful conversation. fox news host laura ingraham is taking the week off as advertisers flee from her show
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♪ fox news host laura ingraham is apologizing and now taking the next week off as advertisers abandon her show. a dozen companies have pulled their ads after ingraham attacked parkland school shooting survivor david hogg. she mocked his grades and the fact that he failed to get into four colleges despite having a 4.2 gpa. when asked whether he accepted ingraham's apology, this is what he had to say. >> she's only apologizing after a third of her advertisers pulled out. i think it's disgusting that she basically tried promoting her show after apologizing to me. >> david hogg joins us now. david, first, what surprised you more, ingraham's apology or the
powerful response from advertisers? >> i think what was more surprising to me wasn't the apology, because that was kind of expected, especially after so many of her advertisers dropped out. that was one of the things that disturbed me most. there were multiple tweets in between her first tweet calling me out and the other one where she basically tried apologizing. there were multiple instances when she could have done an apology and didn't. i'm glad to see corporate america standing with me and the other students at parkland. when we work together, we can accomplish anything and it's important to remember that. >> what's been your biggest take away or lesson learned from this experience? >> i think my biggest takeaway from this is when somebody, no matter who somebody is, no matter how big or powerful they may seem, a bully is a bully and it's important to stand up to them. there are a number of instances where ingraham has tried calling out people, for example dartmouth university, because of their sexual orientation. she told lebron james to shut up
and dribble. i don't see any apology for those people. it's sad, it's disturbing to know that somebody can bully so many people and just get away with it, especially to the level she did. i think now with advertisers standing with us, we can accomplish anything. >> the word "bully" stands out because some people are calling you a bully, in fact conservative commentator erick erickson, i want to read you what he has said, he said having someone apologize to you and then refusing to accept itless conditions are met is what bullies do. what do you say to that? >> i don't agree with it. just like laura, she can have her opinion, he can have his. it's up to them. but i don't agree with it, personally. >> laura ingraham has invited you back on her show for a, quote, productive discussion. would you consider doing that? >> i would only consider doing that after she apologizes to all the people that she's hurt throughout her professional career, because of her immaturity and unprofessionalism, it's not right, and i think she needs to
apologize to those people she's hurt. >> ingraham probably won't be the last person, sadly, to attack you. do you worry about this kind of back and forth becoming a distraction to your main mission and what you're trying to accomplish with gun reform? >> absolutely, because i think when people call us out like this, what they're really trying to do is distract from the bigger movement here, in that we're not trying to take anyone's guns, we're simply trying to save lives. and when laura uses divisive language like many people on her show have when she calls us the left and right and doesn't acknowledge the fact that we're just americans and our diversity is our strength, she needs to acknowledge the fact that everybody's opinion matters, even in, from my perspective hers does too, but what matters most is we come together as americans. we need to come together as americans, not as democrats or republicans. >> so you're taking a gap here, you're deciding not to go to college right now. what are you planning to do?
are you trying to harness something more in this movement and have politicians reach out to you? >> yes. some have. what i plan on doing during this gap year, which i still may not be taking, i haven't made a final decision on, is i'm going to be working on a candidate basis, because there are republicans who are supported by the nra and not supported by the nra. there's democrats that are supported by the nra and democrats not supported by the nra. i'll be working on a candidate basis to make sure that candidates who are serving their constituents' interests get into office. >> which candidates reach out to you? >> there is one that's going against steve king in iowa that's reached out to me. a few have reached out to me. i think at the end of the day what's important is we all come together and work on this not as democrats and republicans but as americans and realize that our strength is in our diversity of people and our diversity of ideas. this is not an issue that has
one solution. there are multiple solutions we must work at to implement this. >> thank you, david hogg, for joining us, best of luck to you. >> thank you. coming up, we'll sit down with david axelrod and ask him what he thinks about the latest staff shake-ups at the white house and why he thinks the president may have met his match in stormy daniels' attorney, next. -looks great, honey. -right? sometimes you need an expert. i got it. and sometimes those experts need experts. on it. [ crash ] and sometimes the expert the expert needed needs insurance expertise. it's all good. steve, you're covered for general liability. and, paul, we got your back with workers' comp. wow, it's like a party in here. where are the hors d'oeuvres, right? [ clanking ]
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from the president as she left her job as communications director this week. sources say top aides are worried that the president will, quote, unravel without his so-called trump whisperer. at the same time, cnn is learning other trump allies are telling the president he doesn't need to replace her or even to have a chief of staff, for that matter. joining us is david axelrod. david, the president defies precedent, he tweets what he wants to tweet, he makes policy and personnel decisions on the fly. without about this idea of going without a communications director or chief of staff? could it work? >> no, i don't think in the long term it could work for him or the country. but that's not his orientation. he looks at his own experience, and he says, look, i defied all the conventional rules to get here, i went by the light of my own instincts, and that's why i'm here, and if i had listened to all these geniuses, i wouldn't be here, so i'm just going to run the government that
way. so you get his spur of the moment decision to accept the invitation from kim jong-un and the tariffs decision and some of the other decisions he's made lately. clearly what's happened is that donald trump has decided that he's going to follow his own instincts, and he doesn't need a phalanx of people around him to bridle him and tell him what he can't do. no president has all the information they need to make considered decisions, but he clearly is not a student of history or government. he's clearly setting himself up for a catastrophe down the line. but clearly that's what he's decided. i have to say this, ana, i'm sure he's looking at his polling numbers, which have improved a little lately, still not good but improved over a month ago. he's saying, hey, this is working for me so i'm going to go with it. >> the poll numbers, the
ratings, it's affirmation to him. he likes to surround himself with people who make him feel good, who are loyal to him, his daughter and son-in-law both became senior advisers, his long time bodyguard was director of oval office operations. hope hicks had been a former trump organization employee before she was brought to the white house. david, where is that line between having people you trust with you and just having a roster of yes men or women? >> i think every president wants some people around him or we've never had a her, we will some day, but who are close enough to them, loyal enough to them that they know them and they know their loyalties are completely with them. and so i think actually the loss of hope hicks is going to be felt because she was someone he knew was very much loyal to him
on his team. he trusted her and she apparently could tell him things that others couldn't tell him. that's very, very important in any white house. you do not want to be surrounded by people who constantly affirm your judgment. presidents need people around them who are willing to say, sir, that's not a good idea. and it's unpleasant, i can tell you as a former presidential aide, it's unpleasant to tell the president things that he doesn't want to hear. but that is the job. and if you surround yourself with only people who are going to affirm your points of view, you're likely to make mistakes. >> let me switch topics. it's been nearly a week since porn star stormy daniels detailed her alleged affair with trump in that interview with anderson cooper. since then her attorney has been on a nonstop press tour. >> we want to know the truth about what the president knew, when he knew it, and what he did about it. this is legal buffoonery, these guys are making it up as it goes
along. why we haven't heard from the president as to these allegations is really beyond me. i do not understand. >> your friend is a thug. thug, thug, thug. >> david, you tweeted the whole stormy deal is a squalid side show but watching her very sharp, audacious, media savvy, hot dog of a lawyer torment the trump world, it occurs to me that he's giving them a taste of their own medicine. what did you mean by that? >> absolutely. avenatti is playing their game so well, he's getting in the face of the trump world, of michael cohen, of the president himself. he's pushing them, he's prodding them, he's taunting them. he's been pretty effective at it. he's proven himself to be a
major league media talent. whether or not his legal case will hold, because stormy daniels did in fact accept $130,000 and no one forced her to do it, i assume. there is obviously -- there are legal questions that have to be resolved. but in terms of the media wars, there's no doubt this is one case where the trump world is losing out. >> so you have a brand-new episode of "the axe files" tonight featuring nba hall of famer charles barkley, and he talks about why democrats are taking advantage of black voters. let's watch. >> i remember on election night you said that democrats have taken black voters for granted. >> forever. the democrats, and i told mr. jones this, they've taken the black vote and the poor vote for granted for a long time. i've been a democrat for 55 straight years.
and first of all, i want to make clear, i don't think the republicans are better. but i think we as black people have not held democrats accountable for taking our votes for all these years. i look at my hometown. i don't think, other than the fact that i was able to dunk a basketball, i don't see a lot of change in my neighborhood or my state. i have an issue with both parties. but i think speaking as a democrat, we, we, have not held the democrats accountable. everybody in my life has voted democrat our entire life. and now we're starting, like, well, how much has it really helped us. like i say, we know the republicans aren't better, let's get that out of the way. but if you're going to have us vote for you, we have to start holding them accountable. our neighborhoods are not better. our schools are not better. crime is not better. so we've got to start holding these politicians accountable.
>> so david, you worked for a dmocratic black president. what's your reaction to what we just heard from barkley? >> yeah, charles elsewhere in the interview talked about how emotional it was for him when barack obama got elected president. he also, you noted, grew up in segregated a ed alabama, and hoh they've changed in part because the democratic party fought for civil rights at some cost to democratic votes in the south which once was a democratic bastion. look, in one way i agree with him, there is a tendency to take these votes for granted. one of the things that happened in 2016 is you saw a laggard turnout in the african-american community because a lot of people felt they were being taken for granted. so the democratic party has to consider how it's going to engage, even as it promotes programs and principles that are
important to the poor, important to minority communities. if they're not communicating and engaging with those communities, then they're at risk of facing the same result that we've seen, that we saw in 2016. >> david axelrod, as always, thank you, sir. >> great to be with you, ana. a brand-new "axe files" airs tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. tomorrow, an all new episode of "the kennedys" premiers. they realize america needs civil rights legislation. "american dynasty: the kennedys" on cnn. whoooo.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. breaking news this hour, the state of new york just passed a new law requiring convicted domestic abusers to surrender all firearms. in announced the law's passage, governor andrew cuomo said, quote, the recent waves of mass shootings is horrifying. the federal government's failure to act on any form of meaningful gun safety laws is you be conshunable. joining us on the phone, new york governor andrew cuomo. governor, thanks for joining us. previously domestic abusers only had to surrender all handguns. what prompted this expansion to all firearms? >> good to be with you, ana. new york passed the safe act after the sandy hook massacre in connecticut where we saw schoolchildren -- appalling to me this that federal government has done nothing after the florida massacre. we're looking for ways to even further improve our gun safety laws.
and one of them is about protecting victims of domestic violence. half of the women who are murdered in this country are murdered by an intimate partner. and our new law says if you are arraigned for domestic violence related offences, the judge can determine to take your guns. 4.5 million women say that they've been threatened by an intimate partner in this country with a gun. it makes no sense to have a person arraigned on domestic and then let them go home with their guns when you know there's tension and violence in the home. >> of course some gun rights supporters say this is a slippery slope. governor cuomo, this week we heard retired supreme court justice john paul stevens say he thinks the second amendment should be repealed. do you agree? >> look, i think the nra's argument is everything is a
slippery slope. waking up in the morning is a slippery slope, according to the nra. we passed the strongest gun safety law in new york five years ago. legitimate gun owners have their guns. hunters have their guns. mentally ill people can't buy a gun. dangerous people can't buy a gun. that's what a sensible gun control law will do. even gun owners agree with that. this slippery slope argument is just to frighten the gun owners. it's a red herring. if you allow any government regulation, they're going to come take your guns. 1938, this nation outlawed machine guns because they were too dangerous. 1938. you didn't see a slippery slope since 1938. we outlawed the sale of assault weapons in new york.
we outlawed high capacity magazines in new york. we started a mental health database in new york that now has 77,000 people on it who could have bought a gun before we passed that law. 77,000. but legitimate gun owners can still own a gun. so it's -- >> just to answer the question yes or no, if you will, do you believe the second amendment should be repealed? >> i don't know the second amendment should be repealed, because you're playing into the nra's hands, which would be saying, see, i told you they want to take your guns. and you would lose that argument nationwide if you say we're going to take guns from people and no one can have a gun, you will lose. that's not our argument. mentally ill people shouldn't have a gun. >> andrew cuomo, thank you so
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to those who are involved in this case. >> this is a fresh look at the cosby case. i wanted to get to know who andrea constand was. we don't know her. we have seen her but her sister agreed to talk with me and this is the first time that the constand family is really speaking out. we have never heard from them and also, mr. mcmonocle, the lead counsel for bill cosby i sat down with him after the mistrial last june. listen to what he said. >> so you believe they had a romantic relationship? >> i don't think that's any doubt about that fact. i mean, the testimony in this trial was that miss constand had been to his home on a couple of different occasions, there had been romantic interludes. >> constand testified that the relationship was not romantic.
he was a temple friend, she said, somebody i trusted, a mentor. as for the romantic interludes constand said they were passes from cosby she rebuffed. we made sense to diana parsons who said her sister has no interest in romantic interludes with men. >> andrea was actually 16 years old when she told us that she was gay. >> cosby's attorneys used phone records to try to prove a romantic relationship. pointing to more than 50 calls constand made to cosby after the alleged assault and before march 31st when constand left temple. >> i found it to be the game changer. there were calls after the so-called sexual encounter. there was call after call after call after call. >> constand testified she was just returning calls from cosby
a temple trustee. >> and there is no forensic evidence in this case because it's an old case. it's from 2004 and so ana, they really have to go be the credibility of witnesses. who do you believe? do you believe constand or cosby? we don't think he'll be testifying but some of his statements will come into this trial. it is believed. so he will through those will be speaking and he said it was consensual. >> what do you anticipate because this is round two being different this time? >> well, we don't know a lot. the sides have said what they want to come in, but the judge hasn't made rulings but the coach wants the confidentiality agreement to come in. because once criminal charges were not brought in 2005, she sued civilly and there was a settlement. it's confidential. there was a money amount. no one has ever qualified what that is but the defense wants the jury to hear it. because they want to portray her as greedy. that all she wanted was money.
prosecution says okay, we don't want it in, but if it's coming in we want the negotiations in because cosby tried to negotiate with her that she would never participate if any criminal charges were ever brought against him. that was not part of the finality of that agreement, but that's what cosby wanted. they want the jury to hear that. >> in the era of the me too movement people will be paying more attention to what the result is at the end. thank you very much. i can't wait to watch the special tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. then at 10:00 expect, christiane amanpour takes us to beirut in a brand-new "sex & love around the world." >> sometimes you wake up in the city and you feel like it doesn't love you. so i wake up at 5:00 a.m. and i sit on my balcony. i have tears in my eyes thinking beirut, why don't you love me back?
>> dee mata is an artist and a writer who hosting a monthly storytelling night that's lgbt friendly. even in liberal beirut, homosexuality is still criminalized like around the rest of the arab world. >> before i came back to lebanon one of my friend's friend said you're going back to beirut, i said, yes, i am. she said you're not scared? yes, i am. and she said, but it's okay because then you get to fight the beast from within. >> that's at 10:00 only here on cnn. that's going to do it for me, i'm ana cabrera. see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. and "smerconish" is next. have a great night. sometimes . i got it.
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