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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. it is 11:00 p.m. here on the east coast live with huge breaking news. james comey's memos about his conversations with president trump turned over to congress tonight, and cnn has obtained a copy. those memos are, of course, a key part of robert mueller's investigation of potential obstruction of justice and they are full of fascinating details. we're going to go through them page by page, and we will bring you all of it tonight. i want to go to cnn's justice reporter. laura, good evening to you. you have been combing through the comey memos detailing his interactions with president trump. what are you learning? >> reporter: well, don, the memos are detailed and full of
color. they cover everything from president trump's alleged loyalty request to james comey as well as their conversations about former national security advisor michael flynn. and i want to read to you a couple of the new bits of information that we've got tonight from these memos. the first is a january 27th meeting at the white house at dinner with james comey and president trump. and here's what james comey writes. in addition to president trump requesting loyalty he said and i quote, he then went onto explain that he has serious reservations about mike flynn's judgment. that's the first time we've heard the president express those types of sentiments at least to james comey. but comey also describes a february 14th meeting in the oval office where trump allegedly kicked everyone out including attorney general jeff sessions. and on that comey writes this. president trump returned to the topic of mike flynn saying that, quote, flynn is a good guy and has been been through a lot. he misled the vice president,
but he didn't do anything wrong in the call -- in the call with kislyak. he's a good guy, i hope you can let this go. i replied i agree, he's a good guy but said no more. now, don, comey also goes onto describe a conversation he had with former chief of staff reince priebus on february 8th. and in that situation comey says the two were alone and he asked me, meaning comey if this was a private conversation. i replied it was. he then said he wanted to ask me a question and i could decide whether it was appropriate to answer. he then asked, quote, do you have a fisa order on mike flynn. don, that's extraordinary because this is just days before national security advisor mike flynn is fired. and this is the chief of staff asking the fbi director if they have a surveillance warrant on the national security advisor.
and i also want to mention later on february 8th comey says that the white house -- i should say president trump met with him on that same day. and although president trump has emphasized how limited his interactions are with vladimir putin comey writes the president said the hookers thing is nonsense but that putin had told him, quote, we have some of the most beautiful hookers in the world. now, don, no reaction from president trump to all of this latest revelations from these comey memos tonight. but of course in the past he has denied a lot of these interactions. >> okay, listen, laura. thank you. i want to get to our panel. i want to put that last quote up from laura. let's bring in joe lockheart, who was the white house press secretary for president clinton, julia kyanne. and the last quote that laura
just gave us, the president said the hookers thing is nonsense but that putin had told him we have some of the most beautiful hookers in the world. okay, so this is a day before. here's a tweet. i don't know putin, had no deals in russia and the haters are going crazy yet obama can make a deal with iran. number one in terror and no problem. that is a problem, rick wilson, isn't it? >> this is one more example of donald trump either having a relationship with vladimir putin and he hasn't been honest about it, or trying to impress people with an imaginary relationship with vladimir putin. this is guy whose behavior -- i mean the stink of guilt is all over this guy. and i don't think his congressional allies did him any favors tonight by revealing these memos. if they thought this was going to make comey and had investigation look bad, this is once again reminding people of
the concept of trump, hookers and russia all in one big package. it's astounding how they released these tonight. >> jewel ulia, can you put it a other way? >> no, and i think the memos are so damning. one, he wanted the investigation to end and said it explicitly. two, he wanted the fbi to protect flynn, and three he wanted loyalty from comey. those are just out there now. i don't know how that helps trump at this stage. and remember in the background this of course is all around the russia investigation. so the fact there's complete silence by trump on any questions what did the russians do in 2016 also just sort of more evidence that all trump is concerned about is stopping an investigation that is just at these moments just beginning to circle the white house. >> but also it's also during a
media tour where the president has been saying that james comey is slippery. these memos it shows that he's been consistent is saying the same thing all along. the memos back up everything he's been saying. >> yeah, it's astonishing we're seeing this thanks to house republicans because these memos do donald trump no favors. and when you read them many of the charges in them and substance is stuff we've seen before, there are new details, of course. but really what strikes you is what scrupulous detail james comey is taking. and really bolsters his credibility because he's taking the act very seriously. and as he's saying i'm writing this five minutes in a vehicle and you sense he's doing something historical and important here. he knows that something is going on and someday someone is going to read these, and he's trying to establish how scrupulously detailed he's being, and he's very conscious he's doing something for history and not
just in case. >> i want to go to joe, but if you can tell me julia, you said he had three things. what was the other one? >> he wanted loyalty from comey. those are the take-aways from the hookers and everything else. >> she brings up very good points there. >> yeah, i think the most interesting thing in this is the mystery of mike flynn. clearly reince priebus who should have access to that information, they're scurrying around. trump simultaneously tells comey he's got questions to his judgment, but then in another meeting privately says please let him go. they're worried, and there's a bigger point here which is that there's a lot of stuff out in the media. mueller is doing his investigation. there's even more stuff we don't know. so i expect he's got what he needs on this.
he'll issue his report, and this is a sideshow. this is political washington show. >> i was listening to jake who had a fantastic interview with james comey today, and as i was getting dressed to come into work i kept thinking that robert mueller must be sitting at home just sort of doing this about everything that's going back and forth like -- but no one really knows what's happening. >> there's a really stark difference between the last time i went through this when i worked in government with president clinton where the independent counsel was using strategic leaks to try to force a resignation. here mueller hasn't leaked a thing as far as we can tell. every indictment has been a surprise. he's got his case or he doesn't have his case, but he's not worried about house republicans. he's not worried about rod rosenstein right now. but what they're doing is trying to put pressure on mueller through trying to get these released. i think as the other panelists
have said it's not going to help them very much, but he knows what he knows. we'll find out when he's ready to tell us. >> okay. let's go through some more quotes mere. julia, at one point the president and comey discusses leakers and comey writes here, he said i said i was eager to find leakers and would like to nail one to the door as a message. i said something about it being difficult, and he replied that we need to go after the reporters and referred to the fact that 10 or 15 years ago we put them in jail to find out what they knew and it worked. he mentioned judith miller by name. but okay, so why is this so significant and not to mention the irony here. who was judith miller's source, scooter libby. who did the president pardon just a couple of days ago? scooter libby. >> that's exactly right. and the irony, of course, judith
miller is sort of infamous in national security circles because she was a strong proponent of the war in iraq from the front pages of "the new york times" and is really viewed in hindsight as someone who sort of drinks the kool-aid without sort of being an objective reporter. so a lot of us don't consider her as being a reporter. but i took this part to be sort of consistent with what we also saw in the earlier parts of the memo, which is just trump -- and i don't give him any -- i don't buy this argument anymore that he does not know what it's like to be in government. trump knows exactly what he's saying as president of the united states to utilize the fbi, to go after reporters who leak. and he knows it when he's saying it to comey. so to me this is consistent with his sort of lack of respect for the judiciary, lack of respect for processes, lack of respect for the law, and then lack of respect for the first amendment. >> rick, did you say correct? >> yeah, i think judith's right
on target here -- i'm sorry -- >> juliet. >> excuse me. i think she's right on target because we've seen this kind of behavior in other places, other countries. and we've seen places where authoritarian figures talk casually or actually go ahead and lock up reporters. turkey is the out liar of the whole world right now on this. we've seen that kind of behavior before just never with an american accent. it's troubling and ought to be disturbing that the president's looking to put people in jail to try to intimidate them and pressure them into revealing confidential sources. we had a long tradition in this country, and frankly this is one of those tests if barack obama was doing this to conservative reporters the right would be having a gigantic pissy fit right now. >> much has been made in this panel about him wanting to protect flynn by both juliet and
joe, so let me ask you this, frank. talking about flynn, he says he then starts talking about all the women who falsely accused him of grabbing -- is this the right quote that i have? no, sorry, here it is. he then returned to the topic of mike flynn saying flynn is good guy and he's been through a lot. he misled the vice president but he didn't do anything wrong in the call. he said i hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting flynn go. he's a good guy. i hope you can let this go. i replied by saying i agree he's a good guy but no more. it supports what comey has been saying, what was reported earlier and now what he's been saying in this press tour. >> no, and it's stark now to see it in the memo itself in black and white. and that exchange which we've
gone over before and at the heart of the notion trump was trying to wave comey away and obstruct justice in doing that, it really sounds in a not particularly subtle way he's saying let's just let this go. mike flynn is an okay guy, we don't have to dig into this as deeply as you want to, people make mistakes. it's a very humanly recognizable moment with one goal, which is to ask james comey to turn the other way, be blind to this and move on. >> i think he said, frank, that he asked people four times -- four times to be left alone with comey in the room so that they can have this conversation. >> yeah, which we talked about before is completely inappropriate. and james comey said it made him uncomfortable these moves were being made. and we know there was an incident jeff sessions couldn't want to leave the room because he too knew it was
inappropriate. >> the president said the hookers thing -- this is for you juliet. the president said the hookers thing is nonsense and that putin had told him he had some of the most beautiful hookers in the world. this is apparently the president recounting the conversation he had with putin and then now we have the tweet where he's saying, no, none of this happened. i don't know him at all. >> yeah, there's a couple of points here. i think comey did a good job of explaining to jake tapper today why this was important to him. he talked about his investigative instincts from year from his career that when unprompted people continually come back to tell you they didn't do something, your antenna goes up saying maybe you did that. the second piece of it like rick
was saying earlier you just don't know with trump. he gave multiple speeches and interviews recally during the campaign saying he didn't know vladimir putin. and now he's telling james comey he and vladimir putin had a conversation about hookers. so one of those things is true, and we don't know -- neither one of them is good for donald trump, though. >> i'm going to keep all of you around. when we come back new details tonight on james comey's memos on his conversations with president trump and what they mean for the mueller investigation.
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our breaking news tonight cnn has a copy of james comey's memos detailing his conversations with president trump, and we're going through them page by page. so juliet this is for you. this is again in the meeting at the dinner. comey writes, at about this point he asked me to compare a.g. holder, a.g. lynch. i thought i thought a.g. holder was smoother and sophisticated than a.g. lynch. i replied they were and it illustrated in my view a messteak presidents makeover and over again because they reason that problems from our president often come from justice thatch they try to bring justice close, which paradoxically makes things work because an independent doj and fbi are better for a country. i listed off mitchell, ed mese
and gonzalez and he listed bobby kennedy. what do you think of that? >> it was interesting. i thought it was a moment trump seemed really aware of history. a lot of memos shows trump meandders through history that's really hard to follow. this is typical comey. he sounds like he's given a sermon. and i think the other aspect is obviously comey in the book is pretty harsh on loretta lynch, the a. g. i'm not quite sure honestly how to think about it. loretta lynch might have been better off completely recusing herself from the investigation. remember when she met with bill clinton she sort of partially recused herself, which comey says sort of led her to believe
she was not totally free and clear. and actually that moment begins this entire drama that we're still in. and so i think what he says about loretta lynch is interesting, and he clearly sort of reserved judgment of her until the book came out. >> well, speaking of attorney generals and recusals and all of that, rick wilson, he is upset -- trump is upset about attorney general jeff sessions recusing himself. he's never forgiven him for that. and he wants loyalty from his attorney general, the exact opposite advice comey gave him during this memo apparently during their meeting. >> it's one of those examples no good advice goes unpunished with this man. and james comey outlined exactly the correct sort of stance. regardless of the administration in terms of the relationship between the white house and the justice department justice in the fbi should be independent agencies that are not beholden to the political whims of the
white house. they should go without fear or favor as they say. and unfortunately trump has any number of stompy twitter hissy fits about sessions not doing exactly what he want at that moment. and also elliptically and nonelliptically threatened to fire sessions, fire mueller, fire rosenstein. he's gone through this whole thing of this kabuki dance of the justice department over and over again. and frankly it puts him in a worse box every single time and brings up that stench of guilt. even if he's not guilty or not obstructing justice he smells of guilt when he does these things. >> here's what he writes. he said he began joking that i was getting more publicity than he. i replied that i hate it. he then said he was trying to run the country and the cloud of this russia business was making that difficult. he asked what he could do to
lift the cloud. i explained we were running it down as quickly as possible and that there would be a great benefit if we didn't find anything to our good house keeping seal of approval, but we had to do our work. that's the end of quote. the cloud of the russia thing making it more difficult. what do you think of that, frank? well, according to comey trump asked what he could do to lift the cloud. i think he was really asking comey what he could do to lift the cloud. you've got two quintessentially things there. one was the publicity. it was getting on his nerves comey was more famous. and that cloud thing is him saying to comey in yet another way i don't like this, i want to move on, can you help me on. juliet has twice brought up something really, really fascinating. we have sort of portrayed this president as a bumbling fool who
really isn't up on history. and in between the meanderings in these memos there's a moment he seems very aware he knows exactly what these branches of government and agencies do, and i find myself with as many new questions as answers about donald trump when i read these memos. >> but didn't he say he fired comey over the russia thing after he said this, you know, this whole cloud and then he said in an interview i thought it was a russia thing. >> well, that was when he wanted to show-off to lester holt about how strong he was, and now he's tweeting he didn't do that because it's not convenient for him any longer. there's not a sense with this president that people are paying attention, that people are going to go back. you know, there's a cottage industry of no matter what he says finding a tweet from a few years back where he says just the opposite.
you know, again his supporters hear it and they don't care. they just don't care. they love it, and his detractors keep pointing out and scolding him. and at the end of the day i'm not sure how big a difference it makes. >> and not only for the president but we always say here there's a tweet for everything. every time the president says something and we go back and find there's a tweet that contradicts what he says. and all you can say it's hypocrisy -- >> going back to what juliet said in the beginning, there's multiple meetings about a foreign power trying to upset or elections and overturn our elections and not once does president trump ever say what are we doing to stop this, who dropped the ball here and what are we doing? he just didn't care. >> juliet, i wanted to ask you about rudy guiliani going to work on trump's team. what do you think? >> that man does bring a lot of
baggage to that litigation team. i wanted to say something i tweeted out earlier because i come from the counter terrorism world. rudy guiliani was a fantastic leader at a time the country needed him to be. but that is not the rudy guiliani today and not just simply because of his rampant partisanship and physical comments about hillary clinton's weight to his clients and his client base from nefarious countries -- i'll put that nicely. but also he's implicated in these varied investigations. there was an investigation about whether rudy guiliani was getting information from agents in the fbi, in new york city, ones clearly he would know regarding the hillary clinton investigation. comey said today he did not know where that investigation went after he left, but the idea
you're going to bring rudy guiliani in as a lawyer quote-unquote is a joke. what trump is bringing in as this is my guy, i'm going to fight this politically. jewel johnny is well-known as any other lawyer in the country, and he's going to fight if in the airs. >> it seems like other panelists want to respond to this. and quickly if you guys can. >> sure. i'm a former guiliani guy. i worked for him for a long time. and i will say this, he will not necessarily bring in the sophisticated nuanced legal thing, but he will bring a lot of fight and fire into the equation, and trump wants and needs that right now. and the irony is rudy is a guy that put a lot of mobsters in jail, and robert mueller right now is dismantling the trump universe because he's using the techniques of putting mobsters in jail. and the approaches he's taking are the sort of things rudy did
in moderate in light, and we're going to see if the sort of bravado part of rudy is going to be sufficient to offset the gigantic title wave of evidence and power mueller is bringing to the table as well. >> that was a short answer rick, thank you. do you think he's going to be much affected by joguiliani? >> no, i don't. he loves loyalty, he loves celebrity. he gets both of those in rudy guiliani. and his self-debasement continues. >> i think it's a recognition by trump and his team that he has more of a political problem than a legal problem. the legal problem is going to sort itself out. this is going to get decided by politicians not by judges, at least what mueller's looking at. whether rudy guiliani is the right guy to be giving political advice, i don't know.
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mueller's former special assistant at the justice department and a former federal prosecutor. good evening to both of you. michael, we were reading copies of comey's memo where he talks about condemning leakers and reporters. and then he says and then explain why it leaks reported to be fbi intelligence operation were also terrible and a serious violation of the law. if people running around telling the press what we do that ability would be compromised. i said i was eager to find leakers and are would like to nail one to the door as a message. i said something about it being difficult, he replied we need to go after the reporters and referred to the fact that 10 or 15 years agewe put them in jail to find out what they know and it worked. he mentioned judith miller by name. i explained i was a fan of pursuing leaks but going after
reporters was tricky and that doj tends to approach conservatively. what do you think? >> i think the conversation is terrible for both parties. the notion that you're going to pursue the press for materials that they received from leakers to me is very problematic. i think that which stands as a bastion of your democracy is the fact we have a free press. and if the notion is from the director of the fbi and the president of it united states is that they want to pursue reporters and lock them up to me that's just bad. no way to -- >> to me, don, this sounds like something that a third world dictator would say not somebody who is the president of the united states who swore an oath to up hold the constitution, swore an oath to uphold the first amendment. our country is based upon the freedom of the press, and comey was right to say in that meeting
the justice department has strict rules about charging journalists and safe guards because we don't want the power of the executive, the power of the president to be used to go after the press, to discourage, you know, free speech and discourage dissent and discourage reporting about what an administration st. doing. that's literally how you get down to road to a dictatorship. that was the most frightening passage because it really suggested to me that at its core i think trump has some very anti-democratic tendencies. >> i read it a little bit differently than that, which is it seems to me comey was a much more sympathetic audience to the president's point of view than you're attributing to him. it seems to me he too felt that it was in the interest of law enforcement to make examples of leakers including reporters. and to me both of them should
be, you know -- >> i was a fan of pursuing leaks aggressively but going after reporters was tricky for legal reasons because the doj tends to approach it conservatively. he's saying that's never going to happen. but he also explains how the fbi gathers intelligence in part, if people running around telling the press what we do -- it seems to me they're talking about the leakers and not the prez. it seems to me comey's talking about the leakers and trump is talking about the press. >> i understand. but i would have hoped from comey he would have said mr. president, you can't do that. and he said this is -- when he used a word this is tricky and the doj is conservative, that's not saying i'm against this, it's bad for our democracy, don't even think about this. he's saying well, you know, it's tricky. >> and the fbi director should be able to stand up to the president and have blunt conversations with the president of the united states. >> and we see throughout the memos his failure to do that in other areas as well. >> so quickly renaldo you first
and then i'll ask michael, the memos are detailed. they don't paint a favorable picture of this president, but do you see any intent to obstruct justice? >> well, certainly the request to let flynn go is really problematic. at that point i think there's very good reason to believe that trump may have known that flynn had lied to the fbi, for example. and it's clear that at that point he was concerned that flynn had legal jeopardy, and he's asking the fbi director to let flynn go. to me that certainly suggests that he was intending to obstruct justice. >> this is comey's notes, and in this do you see an intention to obstruct justice? >> no, not on the four corners of these documents. i understand that comey was concerned. the president cleared the office and said he hopes he can let this matter go. but if you're a prosecutor you have to prove that a person had willful, corrupt intent to
obstruct the due administration of justice. i don't think on its face these memos create that case. now, there may be other things. you've got papadopoulos. you've got flynn as cooperating witnesses. you have other documentary evidence. but on its face as the president who speaks as comey said in nonlinear terms, it's hard to figure out how you prove criminal intept on these documents. >> go ahead renaldo. >> i was going to say, don, just to be clear i do agree with michael that you couldn't certainly -- i've never had a criminal trial where i had one exhibit. i wouldn't suggest you put these memos in and comey's testimony and that would be it. there's a lot of other evidence out there that would be probative of this corrupt intent. stick around both of you. we've got lots more details to come about james comey's memos with president trump and what
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james comey happened in his conversations -- what happened in his conversation with president trump and of the impact it's going to have on the mueller investigation. back with me is michael zelden and renaldo maruaty. james comey's memos just out and show clearly that there was no collusion and no obstruction also he leaked classified information. wow, will the witch hunt continue? renaldo, you want to respond to that first? >> wow, right? >> surprise, surprise. >> well, i guess he's not reading the same memos i have been reading because i think there is definitely indications of obstruction of justice. we just talked about that. and there's also indications in these memos that that dossier is more corroborated than we had heard otherwise, that actually as of i think february of last year comey was already telling i
think it was reince priebus that there were portions of of the dossier that were corroborated by the fbi. what i would say is that tweet shows why the republicans wanted these memos released. you know, what a lot of people have been asking tonight, why the heck did the republicans in congress fight so hard to get these memos released when they aren't so positive for president trump? and i think the answer is they were hoping this would bring some ground swell to charge comey for releasing classified information. because supposedly one of the four memos that he released is classified. i think that's going to be a tough road, but that seems like something they're going to try to do. >> everything i'm reading says i'm not sure why house republicans -- i'm a little confused why on earth, can someone please explain to me or how does this help the republicans case? do you agree with that?
>> it's as helpful as the nunes memo was, which is not helpful as all. what it does is allow people to confirm what they already believe and believe that which they want to believe. but nothing in here changes the narrative, and in fact i think what is clear about this perhaps is that it shows comey to be a consistent teller of the same story. he testified to it in may. he wrote his memos contemporaneously. he's on his book tour telling the same thing. whether you credit it is one thing, but you have a very consistent witness here who we know has testified before mueller already. so mueller has all of this evidence. it's all sealed and signed and delivered, and now he's going to have to figure out whether or not it amounts to something that is abuse of his office or corrupt ipsome other way. >> he says in his tweet also he leaked classified information.
wow, he was a private citizen and he gave something to a reporter. he was not an fbi director at the time. he was not in government at the time. is that leaking? >> so a leak is an unauthorized disclosure of classified information. my view of these things is that they contain nothing which is classified that would rise to it level of a prosecutable leak. >> so it's false for him to say that he leaked classified information? >> if you use the word "leak" in its legal term it is false to use that term. he disclosed information, but whistle blowers disclose information and they're not leakers, they're whilsal blowers. >> james comey's memo out clearly saying it shows there's no obstruction, and he leaked classified information. wow, will the witch hunt end. it was not a leak of classified information. gentlemen, thank you. i appreciate it.
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and they've been protected and sheltered because they're private. but when a prosecutor is involved, it's private no more. >> that was the comment about the red line, right? >> right. >> he didn't want him crossing that red line. andrea, you've been doing some reporting, mapping out the associations of michael cohen through the years. you said a distinctive pattern emerged early, many of the people who crossed paths wrj cohen when he worked in queens a
and. >> 20 years to his associates in the taxi industry, the insurance industry, the former soviet y n union. person after person has been accused of fraud, assault, money laundering, michael cohen not convicted, investigated as far as we know. but somebody who's the president's personal attorney to have this criminal history dating back to the queen's waterfront what is little odessa, this is where he came from. >> you said he's like a mini-trump and you said he's long associated with many russians from the former soviet union. and i wonder if these ties raise any red flags in terms of his background. there's a story about his uncle's background.
>> there was the russian mafia, what andrea called little odessa, in florida there were so many trump units at the developments there, i think a third of 2,200 units were bought by former residents of the soviet union, these are all difficult to trace but we're talking about more than $100 million pouring into trump properties often facilitated by attorneys of cohen's sort. >> we went there, it was reputed to be a hangout for the russian mob and the mafia, it's now a place you can go and have weddings and events, and it was owned by an uncle of michael cohen's. it appears that michael cohen had a stake in it for a while. it's just one of the many, many stops along the way where you
find that somebody, one person removed from michael cohen appears to be rubbing elbows with the underworld. >> this sounds like the screen play to "good fellas". i've seen this before. >> it's important to say that michael cohen has not been charged, he's not now charged and he hasn't been charged for any crimes. i've done political reporting and all kinds of reporting in new york in the real estate industry for years and even in that context, this is a high number -- >> thank you both. much more in our breaking news of james comey's memos with president trump released. what comes next. whenw if you move your old 401(k) to a fidelity ira, we make sure you're in the loop at every step from the moment you decide to move your money to the instant your new retirement account is funded. ♪ oh and at fidelity, you'll see how all your investments are working together.
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