tv State of the Union With Jake Tapper CNN April 29, 2018 9:00am-10:00am PDT
"reliable sources," but you can sign up for my newsletter, we email it to you for free at the end of the day. tonight's newsletter will be a doozy, given all the information from washington about the correspondents dinner and the after math. we'll see you back here on tv this time next week. rousing rally. president trump skips a big d.c. dinner for his own party with a friendly crowd, and a lesser known washington. washington, michigan. >> is this better that that phony washington white house correspondents dinner? >> attacking his critics. >> i know things about tester. and if i said them, he would never be elected again. >> republican governor john kasich is here in moments, plus historic summit, president trump taps his own diplomatic efforts
in the korean peace talks. >> it's serge something i hopce think i can do for the world. >> but is kim jong-un really interested in peace? james langford from the intelligence committee is next. plus trump talks, the president weighs in on the stormy daniels case, but might his comments have legal implications? >> the president once again made a critical mistake. >> stormy daniels lawyer michael aven aven avanatti is here, ahead. jake tapper in washington with the state of our union. president frump wtrump was at a different event in washington, michigan instead of attending the annual white house continues dinner in washington, d.c. as members of the press and his
administration attempted to honor the first amendment and journalism, president trump made use of his freedom of speech, attacking the neuews media and political foes, saying he is not getting enough credit. >> i'm saying what do you think of president trump had to do with it? is. i'll tell you what, like, how about everything? >> president trump also attacked his latest target, montana senator john tester suggests that he has dirt on the democrat. >> well, i know things about tester that i could say too. >> and if i said them, he would never be elected again. >> before we get to our first guest, i do want to note, we did ask the white house to provide us with a representative to join us to discuss north korea and
more, the white house declined our invitation. joining us now from his home state of oklahoma, is senator james langford, he's a member of the senate security committee. i know you're honoring the survivors and the victims of the oklahoma city bombing. tell us just briefly about that event? >> april 19, 1995, we lost 168 americans here at the federal building bombing, that was domestic violence, domestic terrorism. this year there are 25,000 runners coming to republican what hatred and what violence, when that spills over what that does to lives and families. there are literally runners from all over the united states and several countries. we're in the middle of it right now. >> our thoughts and hugs are
going out to the people of oklahoma right now. the white house says that the accusations brought forward by the senate veteran's affairs committee, against rear admiral jackson are not try. the republican who chairs the committee says he has no problem with how john tester, the democrat that's on the committee, how he released this information. but the president is on the attack. what do you make of this controversy? >> this is part of the nomination decision, what they call advice and consent from the senate. this particular candidate never made it through the committee itself. the committee did its work and then never made a recommendation to the floor to he's pulled his nomination entirely. >> president trump is now out
there on the campaign trail, suggesting he has dirt on john tester. you say john tester was doing the normal advise and consent role, you can't say this, but what the white house apparently did not do. is it appropriate for the president to say i have dirt on president tester? >> obviously the president can say what he chooses to say, the pushing back and forth, this is part of the political world in d.c. but i will tell you i'm not on the initial committee until the committee does it's initial work. i can tell you he served honorably for three presidents, that does change the dynamic considerably, when you have three different white houses and two different committees. >> the russian lawyer from that infamous meeting at trump tower in 2016, she says she has closer
ties to the kremlin has originally disclosed. now she's saying she's an informant for the russian government. this is what president trump said. >> now she says he ee's involve with the russian government. if she did that, it's because putin said, this trump is killing us, why don't you say that you're involve with government so that we can go and make their life in the united states even more chaotic. >> it's an interesting theory, but more to the point, about the role of the russian lawyer, what do you know about the role she plays with the kremlin? >> if you're in russia, particularly in moscow, and have any connection with the oligarchs, you're going to have some connection with the government. it depends on the contracts, it
depends on the individual she had the opportunity to work with. it will -- the interesting thing is to actually see the meeting that she was a part of. we have zone extensive investigation. walked through multiple interviews, to get the full details about that meeting, how it happened, what happened there, what happened afterwards, so we will have that in our final report, because we have done a very extensive look through of that meeting. >> was any so-called dirt on hillary clinton shared in that meeting as far as you know? >> that was the implication of the meeting itself, the topic of that meeting was never about dirt from hillary clinton, once the actual meeting actually occurred and we have corroboration from multiple individuals and the meeting around it. she was trying to come to be able to institute something in this conversation getting more russians having sanctions remove
from them, and there was no real conversation about that in that meeting. we will have more about that in our final report, we are very dep focused in returning a bipartisan report. >> the summit between north and south korean immediate eleaders that took place, president trump said that he will meet with kim jong-un in the next few weeks, he said they promised to shut down their nuclear sites in the next month. do you give president trump credit for this? >> well, he's part of the journey, no question about that, president trump has put in a set of sanctions that's actually brought north korea to the table. they have been kicked out of multiple countries where they have been for a long time. they've been very isolated in their shipping, they're very
isolated in their energy. they have materials and supplies they're trying to offload on to other ships, they shut that down. so north korea has never had more strict sanctions. so there's no doubt that president trump and the state department has been focused on that. so this international effort is bri bringing kim jong-un to the table. >> he's executed top aides, ordered the murders of members of his own family, auschwitz prisons. >> i would never use the word honorable for kim jong-un.
i would rather call him rocket man than an honorable man. everybody disagragrees with him because he kills anybody who disagrees with him. so it's entirely appropriate that we try to resolve this, not just for north korea, but for the people of north korea and to break this open would be a very significant international event. >> president trump has said he's running for re-election in 2020, he held a campaign rally in washington, michigan last night. would you support his re-election bid? >> i would actually. i am encouraging the president to get things resolved on trade, if we get trade, that would be a very significant issue for trade and agriculture. i don't like the way he speaks and i don't encourage my
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welcome back to "state of the union," i'm shajake tapper. president trump is projecting confidence of his party's ability to keep control of congress. >> we got to win the house, and we got to win the senate, and i think we're going to do great in the senate, and i think we're going to do great in the house. >> if president trump is right, republicans are going to have to put up a good fight. a republican in arizona won but by a slim margin, in a district
that trump carried by a slim margin in 2016. joining me is governor john kasich. >> congratulations on your award last night. i notice it took four of you to win it. >> we're getting old. so i want to ask you about the republican congressional leaders increasingly worried that a democratic wave is coming. they might lose the house, maybe even the senate. president trump doesn't agree, he's confident he's going to hold the house and senate. how concerned should republicans be, how concerned should president trump be? >> i think the democrats are more energized that the republicans. and the president's going to have trouble in a lot of these suburban districts. because a lot of these people who live in the southern districts who voted for president trump are uncomfortable with what they see. that race in pennsylvania, i'm very familiar because i grew up there, this man connor lamb, he won in a district that know
democrat has ever won. where the democrats fall short, jake, is i have no idea what they're for. i mean they are really betting on the republicans just bouncing the ball off their foot, out of bounds and they'll win the game that way. but they're all screwed up too. the left wing is dominating them, just like the right wing is dominating the right. >> when you say that voters who normally vote republican are trending the other way, because they don't like what they see? >> harsh language, they don't like harsh language, they don't like division. you got the hard left and the hard right. they only absorb that they agree with. god bless them, maybe we can come back and rescue them later. but there are people in the middle who are up for grabs. these are people who are
rational and people who seek the truth. people come up to me, and said i'm a republican, i'm for you, i'm a democrat, i'm for you, don't identify yourself, care about being an american and being rational and seeking the truth. because we're almost in a post truth environment. what does that mean? some would argue that i'm not even on the set with you. we have to seek the truth and if we have -- we can mediate those differences if we can agree to the facts. >> last night was the white house correspondents dinner, you were there, the president was not. only 38% of republicans say the news media is an important part of democracy. most republican voters in this poll, agree with president trump's view, that the press is an enemy of america. >> jake, these are people, okay? and here's the thing, the press
is such a critical foundation of freedom in our society. and all over the world. the first thing that people do when they want to assume power, these auto cat autocrats in eu. if you don't trust the press, who are you going to trust? a politician? that's the last group of people i would trust, are politicians. a lot of people say to me, how am i supposed to know what to believe, well, sample everything and use your good brain to figure out what you think is true. but don't just keep absorbing that what you agree with and getting more and more angry with people who say something that you don't agree with. how are we supposed to unify in this country if we only agree with things we like, life doesn't work that way and let's not teach our children to do that either.
>> last night at this rally in washington, michigan, president trump says no one has been tougher than he has on vladimir putin, so much so that he says putin is try doiing to sabotage presidency in many ways. do you agree that he's been tougher on russia? >> putin has been able to unify the west, unlike what we have seen, jake, so there have been sanctions, there probably could be more sanctions, but the truth is, the french, the american, the brits are saying that putin is a thug and we need to push back on him. so putin has done more to unify the west than anybody else. >> i give him credit for the
pressure that he's put on the north koreans. my job is not to be a critic of donald trump. people don't understand that, i am not speaking out because somehow i want something politically, i'm worried about my country and i'm worried about the divisions and the constant effort to continue to polarize us, but at the end, when the president deserves credit, when donald trump ke serdeserves cre i'm going to give it to him. >> when you're talking about a place where president trump deserves credit. you wrote an op-ed saying this increasingly hot war of words does not bring us where we need to be on north korea. it sounds like you were talking can about president trump at times, a lot of people were concerned about it. looking at it now, did he have the right approach? >> i think the idea that he stood up. and i have talked to many experts about this, and i served on the defense committee myself
for many years. there was a point when the rhetoric needed to stop. the point that's pressured the north koreans that have been brought about by the world. part of it is the pressure donald trump put on the north koreans, but it's also the rest of the world that joined in, including the china that say wire goi we're going to sanction them. nobody understands why un is doing what he's doing. what his motivation is. and president trump has said, and i agree with him. don't let up. you can't just trust the north koreans, you've got to be very careful and go through a phased implementation and go through anything you give them based on what they're willing to give us. >> several republican lawmakers have said that they're not ready
to back president trump. >> tell me what's going to happen in the next bite. >> it's unusual for senators to say i'm not there, senator langford did offer his support, but a lot of senators have not. do you see an opening there for republicans maybe wanting an alternative brand of leadership. >> i think it's too early to say, jake, but here's what i do believe, you have a department store that's red, and a department store that's blue and neither of them right now are providing products to the great middle, and you know what happens? that's how another store opens in the neighborhood. >> are you going to open up that store? >> i'm a republican. i didn't lead the republican party, the republican party left me, in my state, we have balanced budgets, surplus, we're up half a million jobs and republicans say kasich is not conservative. does that mean i have to be anti trade, anti-debt?
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stormy daniels deal. he represented me. >> stormy daniels attorney michael avenatti says those comments were a critical mistake. you say the presideo thhe presid himself with that statement, how? >> he directly contradicted what he said on air force one, and he's contradicted what the white house has been trying to sell the american people in the last few months. that michael cohen went out and raised the money on his own and never consulted the president. it's a critical mistake and this is what happens when you're undisciplined in litigation, you may be able to undisciplined in politics, you may be able to lie to the american people, but you can't lie in litigation. it comes back to bite you every time. >> you're saying that's him
acknowledging that he knew michael cohen was doing it, is it not possible that he just meant michael cohen represents me and now he knows because of media coverage, what about that? >> i don't think it's possible, and i don't think it's probable, but i think we're going to be able to prove that the president knew about the agreement and knew about the $130,000. >> trump's legal team used that prediction to help their argument to delay the hearing and the judge agreed, halting the lawsuit until this happens, did you hurt your own case, by saying that michael cohen is likely to be indicted. >> not at all, in fact they tried to use it, but the court rejected their attempt to use my particular public statement. i think the judge erred on the side of donald trump. the case is going to be delayed 90 days. we're concerned about delay
beyond that, we want to get to the bottom of this and get the truth expose for the american people. >> reports are that michael cohen raised $130,000 after his alleged affair with a playboy model who became pregnant. you were out there suggesting that maybe this man wasn't michael cohen's actual client. >> i went on fox and we're in the process of getting to the bottom of this 1.6 milli$1.6 mi payment, more information has come to light that calls into question that payment. and whether it was made on behalf of mr. brody. i think it's very unlikely that michael cohen represented mr. brody in connection with that. my understanding is that michael cohen had no knowledge of mr.
brody during this time period. >> you think it's somebody else that maybe impregnated this playboy model? >> i think it may be. >> are you suggesting it's president trump? >> i'm not sulgtdisul suggestin i'm just suggesting that we're going to get to the bottom of the nda agreement. >> there's the headline donald trump fixers, secrets and lies, it's no secret obviously that the publisher of the "national enquirer" is an ally and friend of president trump, people who have been in president trump's sights have been -- why are you tweeting out that "the national enquirer" is going after michael cohen? >> it's very clear to me, jake, that michael cohn, mr. trump and the administration have concluded that michael cohen's in a lot of trouble and he's going to flip on the president. so this is the first effort on their part to undermine mr.
cohen's credibility so they can claim when he does flip, thiat he's a liar, he has no credibility, et cetera. this is only one week after mr. trump last weekend sent out his tweet, effectively coming to the defense of michael cohen essentially saying that he had his back. mr. trump realizes he's in a lot of trouble and he's in panic mode. >> you don't know if mr. trump and his people stugted th suggen the ami or "the national enquirer." you're just talking based on what's happened in the past. >> i think that president trump and "the national enquirer" knew about this payment. is president trump listening, we'll discuss with our panel next, stay with us. so we swapped your car out for the all-new chevy traverse. yes.
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we have to keep the house, because if you listen to maxine waters -- >> boo! >> she goes around saying we will impeach him. we will impeach him. the people said, but he hasn't done anything wrong. oh, that doesn't matter, we will impeach the president. >> the trump speaking at a rally in michigan, skipping the white house correspondents dinner, saying that republicans will keep the house and senate because democrats will impeachment. >> is it true that if democrats recapture the house, that
they're going to try to itmpeac the president? >> he has historically ratings, have an agenda to run on. his tax reform was a scam, the benefits go to the top 20%. and an effort to take away 20 million americans' health care. he can't talk about the nation's infrastructure. he can't talk about his own budget, where he threatened to cut $2 trillion from social security, medicaid, and medicare, when we as democrats have no interest in going down that road. we want to strengthen the affordable care act, we want to make middle class tax cuts permanent. >> this is why jeffries is going
to be a governor, lots of your colleagues in the house, there are argumeticles of impeachment already submitted to the house, isn't that right? >> i serve on the house judiciary committee, not a single person of the house judiciary committee has gone down that road. >> and congressman jeffries, you know as well as i do, that your party is not going to be able to resist going after the president like that. er the er. >> i think this is a clear play to the president's base. democrats are outperforming in every race, every special election that's happened thus far, even in the races that they have lost, they have made ground, arizona two weeks ago, in a district that -- >> but the republican party wasn't energized.
the only hope that the republicans have is to energize the republican base, and this talk of impeachment -- >> amanda has a book coming out on tuesday, it's called gas lighting america, why we love it when donald trump lies to us. amanda, we wish you the best of luck with this book, available now on amazon and tuesday at local bookstores. tell me what you think, is it true, obviously president trump is using this to rally his base. >> donald trump loves to create an enemy, to energize the gop base, and in this case, a lot of democrats are making it all too easy. you have tom steyer on the airwaves across america, making a case for impeachments. so some democrats are stretching it, making it all too easy for everyone to say, everyone hates me, they're all against me, it's
us versus them. >> they're suing the trump campaign, they're suing wikileaks, the russian government, it's a very broad government. i have heard democrats say they don't think it's -- >> there was an attempt to collude with russian spies. we must allow mueller's investigation to proceed, that's the most important thing. if it helps to uncover facts that can be presented to the american people, it's not a bad thing. >> do you think that mueller is not going to get it done? >> i think mueller is going to get it done. but i think the reason why you guys are raising it--when doug jones won in alabama and connor lamb won in pennsylvania, it scared the living daylights out of you. >> candidates matter. >> here's why i think the whole
impeachment thing is a loser, the conditions are possibly there, we are talking about conspiracy and obstruction of justice. but even people who detest donald trump know what a horrible thing it would be for president trump to be impeached. to have a president dragged out of office is not a good thing for america. >> i was goingmanda, i don't th dems should overplay it and we have done that before, but if we continue to do what we have been doing, if we run candidates that really speak to the con stitch we -- constituents of those districts, i think we're going to have a very, very interesting 2018. >> it's no secret, people, the party of power loseses seats in the midterms. shocking. no one's going to be shocked if that happens. you've got to pick good
candidates, blue dog democrats don't exist anymore and i was surprised the party went that direction, they continue to look for candidates that fit the district, it's going to be much closer. >> earlier today, john kasich, who's certainly been critical of donald trump and the republican party, he said the party left him, he says democrats are not out there presenting an alternative agenda, they're just sitting back and letting republicans explode and hoping for the best. do you understand why republicans think that? >> i think it's the attention to the latest chaos and confusion from 1600 pennsylvania avenue, that takes up a lot of air in the country and the universe. but at the end of the day, we have rolled out a better economic agenda, focused on better jobs, better wages for the american people, we're going to strengthen the affordable care act, keep what works, and
get rid of what doesn't, we're going to work to reduce prescription drugs, we're going to sfrtrengthen the infrastructure, and we're going to strengthen social security and medicare. these are the things that connor lamb and doug jones successfully ran on. we have candidates all crotacro the country, great nurses, great doctors, who are going to help us be successful. >> we have trouble booking democrats a lot, especially democratic senators, and i have been told, one of the reasons is when your enemy is blowing himself up, get out of the way, and that's what a lot of democrats, you excepted think. >> there's a lot of blowing up going on at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, we have the mueller investigation, we have swamp
problems on the administration. >> what about peace in the korean peninsula? it's not all doom and gloom, you guys heads are going to explode when donald trump is awarded the nobel prize. >> lindsay graham said that this week. >> even david bremer has said this president deserves the nobel prize. obama won the nobel prize and the nomination went in 11 days after his election, 11 days. i wa >> i want to bring up this new song from kanye west. in his scrview, the song is cal, yay versus the people. ♪ ♪ i'll never ever stop working for the american people ♪ ♪ actually wearing the hat is
showing the american people ♪ ♪ you got to see what the vantage point of the people ♪ ♪ see that's what's wrong with the democrats ♪ sfloet we ma ♪ ♪ ♪ we ain't made it off the plantation. >> where do you come down on this debate? >> listen, we believe in the first amendment, that was a great celebration of it last night. he's entitled to his own opinion, but, you know, the republicans have increasingly become the party of bannon, moore, trump, diamond and silk. it's a five-ring circus and kanye west apparently wants to get in on the act. >> it is a little bit refreshing, i think kanye's point is uniquely american. nobody likes to be told what to think or do. and i think kanye is more about the power of celebrity. >> that's exactly the point. and he wants in on the celebrity
action. >> listen, john james, fellow west point grad, running for senate in michigan, african-american, very conservative. >> last thoughts? >> my kids are going to roll their eyes at me. but who cares what kanye west supports? clearly the president cares, i think he's very excited that he has a celebrity endorsing him, besides scott baio. >> a political takedown, a drunken car crash. i'll explain next.
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