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deportation quotas for immigrants. she had no knowledge of the quotas. just a short time ago, prime minister theresa may naming a sajid javid new home secretary is. that will do it for us, my friend. happy monday. i'm dave briggs. >> i'm christine romans. "new day" starts now. >> see you tomorrow. they have been on trains, on buses. this is the moment that they have been waiting for. >> are you watching that mess with the caravan? >> is we have an administration that looks at this as a border problem. this is a humanitarian problem. >> what do you think president trump had to do with it? >> upcoming is summit is a terrific opportunity. there is nobody to the trump administration starry eyed about
what may happen here. >> she burned fat and used that for a smoky eye. >> this turned into more and more of a spectacle. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is your "new day". monday, april 30th, 6:00 in new york. here is our starting line. a caravan of asylum-seeking central americans is now at the mexico u.s. border. inspectors say they don't have the space to accommodate them. president trump are he petedly vowing not to let them in calling this a mess is and seting up a showdown at the border. president trump taking full credit for the peace talks on the korean peninsula and says kim jong-un will shut down his nuclear test sites soon.
several media outlets reporting that ronny jackson will no longer be president trump's personal physician after a series of misconduct allegations forced him to withdraw from being considered as v. is a. secretary. now the president is threat epping to ruin the career of the democratic senator who made the allegations against jack is son. and president trump assailing the correspondents dinner after a roast. the journalists association is distancing itself from that comedian. did the monologue go too far? we will debate that. kaitlan collins is live at the white house. what's the latest? >> reporter: the president had quite the weekend here. several calls with foreign leaders. he called on one democratic senator to resign. a free-wheeling rally in michigan on saturday night. even some criticism is of the white house correspondents dinner. he has one big issue on his
plate today and that is that caravan of migrants. dozens of migrants seeking asylum in the united states now awaiting processing at the california border, despite warnings that the immigration center there has reached capacity. the migrants reaching the united states border after a month-long journey from central america. some climbing the border fence waving to supporters on the u.s. side of the beach. >> we welcome the central american refugees. you are welcome here. >> reporter: but president trump accepteding the app opposite signal. >> are you watching that mess that's going on right now with the caravan coming up? and our laws are so weak, so
pathetic. given to us by democrats, they are so pathetic >> reporter: he criticized u.s. immigration laws. >> we have gotten mexico to work with us on on stopping a lot of what's pouring in, but we have the worst laws anywhere in the world. we don't have borders. we're going to build the wall. and if we don't get border security, we'll have no choice. we'll close down the country. >> president trump also defending his former nominee for veterans affairs secretary is, dr. ronny jackson. president trump calling for the resignation of jon tester after he put out allegations from current and former colleagues. >> i know things about tester that i could say too. and if i said them he'd never be be elected again. >> reporter: jackson has denied any misconduct can.
and the white house has presented documents disputing claims of an alcohol-related car accident and improper pill distribution. but questions remain. multiple outlets reporting that jackson won't return as the president's physician but will continue to work in the white house medical unit. president trump also taking aim at the white house correspondents dinner after the comedian my shelf wolf's roast. >> she is resourceful. she burns fat and uses that ash to create a perfect smoky eye. maybe she's born with it. >> reporter: the president calling the event app embarrassment and filthy. the white house correspondents association expressing regret that it was not in the spirit of the group's mission to celebrate the first amendment. >> reporter: chris and alisyn,
we will hear today from the president of nigeria. angry tweets. it's only 6:05 a.m., so so stay tuned. >> we are getting close to peak tweet time. i'll let you know how it goes. joining us is alex burns and john avlon. we start, john, on north korea. and, what, 10, 12 days ago. the idea of if everything goes right here, this would be amazing. this would be a real peace development. could be the stuff of a prize. everybody laughs. then we have the big moment with moon and kim. and we learn that moon is really engineering this. there are pluses and minuses. now the president is standing up there saying i had everything to do with all of this. but then pompeo says -- hold on, hold on -- we have our eyes wide open. what's your read on the plus/minus on the political
optics o north korea? >> look, this goes well beyond optics. it's what the possibility of a deal getting done and not going off the rails when trump sits down with kim. all right. so here's what's important. he has changed the calculus around this negotiation. he deserves credit. in a way that didn't occur before. north korea has played this forever. i think it is different that moon is the president of south korea. he also really wants con sillatisil sillation. they have been afraid of what happened to gadhafi after he renounced nuclear weapons. so this is all leading up to a high stakes negotiation. can president trump? sure. but have they set up a different condition in which kim seems willing to negotiate? >> i apologize for stepping on the lead. i wanted to make sure that gets out there. i believe with the iran deal, we have to keep it in focus. i know we have a big story this
week. >> that's a big story. obviously north korea is a big story. >> that's fine. let's touch on that. let's move on to what's happening on the border with immigration. the president has been stoking fears about this caravan charging towards the border. now they are there. there are at least dozens of people, maybe a couple hundred. and they are seeking asylum. and, alex, there's awe process by which people seek asylum. these folks are going through that process for which they seek asylum. the data point, last year with when this same thing happened, 200 people showed up. three people have been granted political asylum. so this is kind of business as usual, much as the president is ginning up his crowd about it. >> the president said we have weak laws. no. we have problems that deal with this as an issue quite regularly. people do get to come
and plead their case for why they should get asylum. he does like to go out and tell these stories about immigration, national security, crime and terrorism to suggest we are living in a state of total chaos and the united states is being completely overrun or taken advantage of or whatever term you want to use. that is simply not the reality we're living in. >> he is making the case that this caravan is going to bum rush the border. people come and apply for asylum and go for a credible fear interview. this is not chaotic. this is orderly. and the vast majority aren't getting across the border. >> and the credible fear is the first part of the process. if they determine you have a credible fear, then you get to make your case for why you deserve asylum. you will hear a lot of statistics the next few days. probably 75% of people make it
through. it's much, much tougher than that. >> one more thing that i want to get to before we move on. that is the president seemed to have changed his narrative about immigrants. it has been they are coming to take your jobs. then this weekend it was you know what, they're coming to help you with your jobs. we're going to make sure they help you. so listen to this difference. >> or for the farmers, okay. it's going to get approximate good. and we're going to let your guest workers come in because we're going to have strong borders but we have to have the workers come in. the unemployment picture is so good, so strong that we have to let people come in. they're going to be guest workers. they're going to come in, work on your farms. we're going to have a lot of things happening. but then they have to go out. >> that is a different taupe, john avlon. >> that is a tasty little more sell of a shift right there. he is taking credit for unemployment.
it is a feed to the farming community. if they come in, they have to go out when the season ends. this is not a president who talks in policies specifically. so i'm not going to put in a ton of stock. >> all true. i think it is more pernicious than that. the theory of the case is these are bad people. they're murderers, rapists, at best they're coming to steal your jobs. we know the statistics, deny the first two categories. we know on the third it is demonstrably false. now, what is the reality? they take the jobs that americans don't want to do. we see that by the supply. if it wasn't the supply of these jobs, the people wouldn't come here. so now he is saying that's a good thing. what is the net effect of this? is this just divisive politics with a chaser shot of being completely misleading about the reality? or what's his plan here? is he trying to move toward the
truth, which is agriculture is in really bad shape? god forbid you have a bus down of the workers. if you police the people creating the command, wow, wonder what that would do? but he can't because those are his friends. have to demonize the people who are desperate enough to milwaukee a new life. what's the play? >> i think you described it very well. this is divisive politics with a chaser of appeasing the business community, important constituencies who are aligned with the president. this is not the first time we have seen this, right? going back years you have president trump or candidate trump in the big picture wanting to demonize immigrants, talk about illegal immigration as a massive national security threat. and then there is always the asterisk of, but the way, we probably don't want to accepted the kids back. but the way, it is important that we are able to get cheap immigrant labor for your farms, right? so in many ways it is an
enormous shift from the traditional national republican position of we want to be tough on the border but have free movement in labor and markets to a point. but he reverses it entirely and makes it all about demonizing immigrants and never really gets to the policy that would probably pass congress pretty easily if he ever threw himself behind it. >> here's the kicker. white house correspondents dinner. you know all the controversy. michelle wolf, the comedian, had lots of biting jokes for lots of people. she spread it around. and it was i think watching sarah sanders having to take the incoming of the biting humor. did michelle wolf go too far? >> i think it looks bad in the rear-view mirror. people were upset about imus.
did he go too far? possibly. stephen colbert. if this is in defense of the first amendment, you back comedians. sometimes you get insult comedy. but getting too outraged about this the morning and days after doesn't age well. alex? >> i would co-sign that. this has become this annual ritual of perform active self loathing by the media. if it is not the comedian going too far, we're in a recession, look how all of these people are dressed. the president is there. we're supposed to be tough on the president. i haven't been for years? >> are you avoiding it? >> no. i'm not opposed to it as an institution. you have to go and roll with it or skip it and don't obsess about it. but this sort is of days long
self tphrapbflagilatin. performative self-loathing, i love that. >> finally i can put a label on it. save me therapy notes. i know what it is! >> on that note, gentlemen, thank you very much. so after walking his nomination to be v.a. secretary, dr. ronny jack son's future has been decided. here's the story of green mountain coffee roasters sumatra reserve. let's go to sumatra. the coffee here is amazing. because the volcanic soil is amazing. so we give farmers like win more plants. to grow more delicious coffee. which helps provide for win's family. all, for a smoother tasting cup of coffee. green mountain coffee roasters. with dell small businessout your technology advisors
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multiple reports say white house doctor, ronny jackson, won't return as president trump's doctor. he withdrew of being veteranswi department of receipt advance affairs. it is really unfortunate. there were allegations and there was reporting that many people, i think the number was 23, came forward, current and former staffers, with allegations. but they were never proven. and now pam brown, one of our wonderful correspondents, said
she has been shown official documents that seem to exonerate him on some of the charges, including he wrecked a government vehicle during a drunk driving accident. there was no evidence that jackson was drinking on the job. in other words, there was no hearing. we never got to the bottom of these allegations. and here's a guy who is not only out of the nomination for v.a. secretary but no longer the president's physician. >> right. which is a job by all accounts he was excellent at. previous presidents as well testifying to how well he performed in that job is. look, the nomination was misguided because it was september out without any vetting by the president. tester, isaacson got 23 people, with a series of allegations that were troubling. now they are saying there is no record of these allegations. that is also troubling. should jackson have recused
himself -- removed himself from the nomination? should he had his day in court? signs point to yes. should we be cautious? yes. does he go to get his reputation about. >> all right. so use pompeo's expression, eyes wide open. people will blame the media ask say they were false allegations, it was trumped up. here's what we know, the fbi never finished their background check. absence of evident is not only evidence of absence is. it goes to your point about process. you should have had these things more vetted. but if they're all untrue, if you had the ability to rebut them in a way -- i wouldn't use the word exonerate but to show we don't have any proof of what you're suggesting, why didn't they stick by jackson?
it would have been a great opportunity to rub it in the face of their perceived enemies to say this is false, just like we say everything else is false. >> this is a bogus narrative in its own right. you have, yes, a bunch of allegations, anonymously sourced allegations that senator tester and the democrats have pushed out there. and some of those are unproven. you have a subis set of those allegations that media, including cnn, has independently verified. these questions of loosely dispensing pills, giving out pills without prescriptions in the white house medical office. that stuff is serious is. so you have seen the white house hone in on that one allegation about the car incident and say we have no record of that and therefore doctor. >> there are so many allegations it's hard to boil them down. those are two egregious ones. if you were in a drunk driving accident, sure threu there is evidence of it. and they can't find those. >> we will see if they can't
find them. we will see if there is an inspector general report. we will see what happens when it comes time to see if he remains in the white house medical unit, period. there will be some kind of process here. sit is not one that plays out in front of the senate. that is the choice that the admiral and the president made. the russian lawyer who visited don jr., president trump has a new theory about what was behind this? let's play what president trump said. >> have you heard about the lawyer? for a year a woman lawyer. like i know nothing. now supposedly she had involved with government. you know why? if she did that because putin and the group said, you know, this trump is killing us. say you're involved with government so we can go and make
their life united states even more chaotic. >> i'm confused. am i the only one? >> no, you're not. >> what is he saying there? >> that the lawyer was put forward. when working as an informant, the ag of russia. that claim, which contradicts previous statements is designed to sow seeds of confusion in the united states. >> it's working. >> because -- it matters. in a the beauty of the trump spin on this is he's hurting russia so badly, he's so tough on russia that putin put this lawyer up now -- the key word is now. to now say she was working with russia back then to try to hurt trump because trump is hurting russia so much. however, now is the key. it can't be that back then when she met with your son and those other guys -- >> that would be bad. >> she was promising clinton stuff. if then he was to acknowledge it then, it makes the whole
>> look, tester is has won. mitt romney won. he was re-elected. let's have this fight. we will play out over the fall in montana. this is a threat. he said ted cruz's father was involved in the kennedy as nation. >> wait a minute. we just found the first contradicti contradiction? >> hold on. i just like to put it out there.
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we are graced with sarah's presence tonight. i have to say i'm a little star struck. i love you as aunt lydia in the hand maids tail. she's resourceful. she burns fat and uses that ash to create a perfect smoky eye. maybe she's born with it. >> #awkward. the michelle wolf roast forced the association to issue a response. here it is. last night's program was meant to offer a unifying message about our common commitment to a vigorous is and free speech while honor civility, great reporting and scholarship winners, not divide people. the entertainer's monologue was not in the spirit of the mission. the president blasting it as an embarrassment and wolf's
monologue as filthy. let's bring in julie pace. she's on the whca board and host of reliable sources brian stelter. do you think the criticism is warranted? >> look, i think some of the criticism is warranted. most people who i've talked to afterwards were in the room felt like some of the more personal attacks did cross the line. i also think, though, that it's important to note that michelle wolf is a comedian. she was not there speaking for the press corps. it is important to note that one of the things that tends to hurt journalists standing with the public is when we take ourselv a little too seriously and kw overstate our own importance and
she could have had her freedom and still get a sense of what she was going to do. >> i think there is a really fine line that we as journalists have to be careful not to cross if we're going to be talking about tone. that's one thing. i think that's fine. but also we'll not be able to sensor someone. and we shouldn't be able to sensor someone. >> i take your point. >> president trump, brian, has made hay of this. talked about how offensive it was. how embarrassing it was. this is why journalist and the white house correspondent's dinner is such a joke. as you know, president trump has made lots of off-color jokes. >> what? >> okay. i'm glad you're testing us. >> seriously? >> we have the proof. here's the evidence. >> some. >> i don't know what i said. i don't remember. >> rosie o'donnell is disgusting. both inside and out. you take a look at her. she's a slob.
>> he's a war hero because he was captured? i like people that weren't captured, i have to tell stpwhru j you. >> job bush is a low person. >> maxine waters is a low i.q. person. >> we have a representative in congress they say was here a long time ago. this call her pocahontas. >> pat on the shoulder of the native american. >> our dispute just to bring you in on the family conversation was i did not think that was a very good represeation of some of the really ugly and intentionally divisive things this president says as a matter of course. >> to be fair, we only have an hour. >> these were supposed to be his jokes. >> he said pocahontas, we were dog jokes. >> it reads president trump's words out loud.
see if they sound like jokes when read from a stage. >> john avlon said that person should be dressed as abraham lincoln. >> that's also very interesting. >> there is a problem. let's face it. most americans don't care about this. the association within the organization, there is a lot of dissent is and disagreement about what the right approach is. how far is too far. as with everything else, trump changed this entire conversation can. everything is political now. a fun dinner is now political. >> we talked about this on saturday night live. >> it wasn't fun for barack obama. he sat there. >> you can call these guys stupid. they don't get their things done. you made jokes about them. it's fine. julie, please weigh in on this. alisyn and i have talked about this before. i don't know why they go on her looks.
"saturday night live" made fun ofer looks and her weight. i don't think that's funny unless the person is so beyond the approach like it is making fun of a supermodel or superman or something. it is funny because the guy is known for being good looking. >> people are complaining that she went over the line. >> wait a second is. why do you all care what a young comedian said? >> she's joking. he's actually telling his truth. >> she wasn't talking about sarah sanders looks. michelle wolf's argument is i was talking about her despicable behavior. comedy is supposed to be uncomfortable. maybe it's a good thing the
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the president was giving himself full credit this past weekend. that's interesting. do you think they will really get rid of their nuclear ambitions and technology? >> well, alisyn, we're a long way from knowing the answer to that question. i was in seoul all of last week. i got back yesterday. certainly the mood in seoul is an extremely positive one, much more positive than i have seen in many years going tphoud there. but we do have to remember that the things kim jong-un said he wanted to get down here, he would in return for a peace treaty and a commitment tpo from the united states that we would never invade north korea, that he would get rid of all of his nuclear weapons, get rid of the
production facilities and so forth, it is exactly the same commitment that the bush administration extracted in a negotiation in 1995. at that time condoleezza rice, john bolton's old boss thought this was a great breakthrough. you saw what happened six is nuclear tests later and full size nuclear arsenal. different korean leader. different moment here. different pressure from the president of the united states. all that factors in. but we really have a long way to go. >> but the credit aspect does matter on one level, i think. you tell me if i'm wrong. the president is saying i had everything to do with all of it. that's just what we have come to accept as untruthful hyperbole from him. moon's role, his motivation, designer for this, because it is a concern, as i understand it with u.s. negotiators to make sure they're not getting boxed out. this isn't about the economic
ambitions and allegiances that may not fall in line with priorities. is there an angle to that? >> certainly is. >> not a fear factor on the part of the north koreans and the south koreans that the president might do something extreme and take military action. i'm not sure we would be why at this moment. but as you say moon had a much bigger role in this. he made the outreach. kim jong-un decided he did so much testing on the missile i'd and nuclear side last year he can come and say is i'm an established nuclear power, talk to me about arms control. that all factored in. moon himself envisioned himself right now as the mediator who can move between north korea leader he will put this whole
thing shuttling between the two of them. >> here's what secretary of state mike pompeo said this weekend about what's going to be different this time. >> this administration has its eyes wide open. we know the history the risks. we're going to negotiate in a different way than has been done before. we're going to require those steps -- they used the words irreversible with great intention. they demonstrate the denuclearization is going to be achieved. we're not going to take promises. we're not going to take words. we will look for actions and deeds. >> he was using the right phrase. it had to be taken seriously. remember what we have seen before. north koreans blew up a cooling tower at one of their major reactors and invited in lots of tv cameras to see it. two or three years had the reactor up and running again.
now, the difficulty is irreversible means you have to be able to have inspection throughout the country to make sure that not only the facilities you know of but the facilities you don't know about. north koreans have never allowed them to go beyond one nuclear site. this is going to be a big long process. it will take a number of years. i know a lot of people in the administration you think they can get this done in six months. they can. the additional problem here now is if president trump decides to exit the iran deal, and even if he stays inside it, he needle a deal that actually is better than what barack obama got out of the iranians. he got the iranians to shift 97% of their fuel out of the country. >> that's the irony. that trump is bashing the deal because of the huff and puff of the campaign rhetoric. now he seems to be angling towards something that would be very much like it. david sanger, thank you very
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