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follow me on facebook and tweet me and get a new copy of the hell fire club at your local bookstore. that is it for "the lead." i turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." thanks for watching. happening now, breaking news. first lady hospital issized and -- hospitalize and will remain in the hospital through the week. the president is heading over there. saving chinese jobs, president trump wants to make china great again and pressing the lift of a crippling u.s. sanctions on a chinese firm which violated trade restrictions on north korea and iran. why is the president so eager to save chinese and embassy anger. the u.s. opens the embassy in jerusalem making good on the president's campaign pledge but the move spurs violent protests
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at the gaza border where israeli troops open fire on rioters killing dozens of people and sparking an international outcry. and chairman kim. the trump administration changes the approach to kim jong-un, the dictator once called little rocket man by president trump is now being referred to as chairman kim. is the u.s. prepared to shore up his brutal regime? i'm wolf blitzer and you're in "the situation room." >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. let's get right to the breaking news. our medical experts are standing by but i want to start with our cnn white house reporter kate bennett who broke this story. kate, this is the first lady, she's in the hospital and right now and was this an emergency, update our viewers on what we know. >> from what we know, this wasn't an emergency, however the first lady did enter walter reed
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in bethesda, maryland and had a preeture called an embolization procedure to treat a benign kidney condition is what her office is saying. that operation was apparently successful. she's resting, however a statement from the first lady office does say she will be in the hospital for the duration of the week. so this is concerning enough to make a lengthy hospital stay and -- but she's expected to be okay. her office also said that the treatment was successful and she will be back working on the behalf of children again soon. but a surprise announcement, surprise situation here for the first lady. >> we're told the president was at the white house while she was undergoing this procedure. but is he still at the white house? has he gone over there or waiting? >> he's on the way and close to being there. her communication director tells me he is expected shortly. clearly this is a first lady extremely private. she is not known to discuss her personal life in any way.
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she's extremely mysterious to people still. clearly the operation of whatever the procedure was today, she wanted to keep close to the vest. >> want you to stand by for a moment and bring in our chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta and dr. gregory bernstein and former military physician and our contributor and kate anderson brower. sanjay, she'll be in the hospital for the rest of the week. it sounds pretty serious, if you could be spending all of that time in the hospital? >> yeah, i think that is worth pointing out. i don't know if this is because she's the first lady or if this is because it is an abundance of caution. but if you typically hear of someone having an embolization procedure, which basically is just threading a catheter into one of the blood vessels and then using that catheter to go to an area to stop blood flow to -- in this case part of the kidney, that can -- maybe a night in the hospital and that is typical. i don't know if there -- there were more concerned about something with her in
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particular. but i think you're right, that that is something that i think there is still questions about why the longer hospital stay. >> well let's ask dr. bernstein, you're an expert in this area and a urologist. >> this is a procedure -- as kate said, was not emergency, but i think that staying over in the hospital for the course of the week, my guess is they're concerned they want to watch out for complications and sometimes after an embolization there could be pain associated with the procedure and monitor for pain and make sure it is well controlled and do that better at walter reed than in the white house. >> if one of your patients were going through this embolization treatment would you expect your patient to be three or four or five days in the hospital. >> it would depend on the situation. not knowing or being involved with her care, i would counsel my patient that is a -- the understanding it is a possibility. >> and they say this is benign treatment. they could take the results
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right away and determine it wasn't cancer. >> quick question. not being part of the team, my suspicion is that this is discovered earlier and they may have done a biopsy ahead of time to confirm whether it was benign or malignant and directed the therapy that they did today with the embolization. >> and they say it was benign which is good news. sanjay, walk us through this procedure. >> well, in this case, and it is a procedure versus surgery, first of all i think those terms are important here. it involves a -- putting a catheter in one of the blood vessels and then threading that -- that catheter up to the area that is in question here. an area inside looks like by one of her kidneys and then basically injecting a substance -- a glue-like substance to stop blood flow to that particular area. if you stop blood throw to whatev -- blood flow to what was being treated, if you stop the blood
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flow it will cause it to storm to shrink and prevent it from bleeding down the road. preventing a complication like that. so this is what an embolization proceed su-- procedure is. it could be associated with pain and there is a concern splieomes of infection. and you are not looking at the mass, this isn't a surgery so not removing the mass and looking at it. you're basically just trying to stop the blood flow to it. >> and what are the -- dr. bernstein, the normal conditions that would lead a patient and the urologist to conclude this kind of procedure is necessary, what are the symptoms to justify the first lady saying i have a problem? >> so it is possible she may have had pain ahead of time. not knowing the nature of the lesion that they found is benign and she may have had symptoms or pain and may have prompted additional testing to try to determine what the cause of the symptoms were and then discovered this lesion in her kidney and then determined that was the cause and then had made
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recommendations on treatment options with the embolization being probably the one recommended. >> so she was going through some pain. >> yes. >> and so how do you determine whether or not this is a kidney related procedure. >> so she would have had imaging done or a scan or ct scan or a combination to make that determination. >> and then they say, you know what, you have to go to the hospital and get this procedure. >> not necessarily. i think they would have looked at the imaging and talked to her and about the diagnosis and the pros and cons an the treatment options available and then worked with her to make a shared decision about the best course of action. >> and would you regard this as an emergency procedure? >> it is difficult to answer that question. not knowing the nature of the condition, if it is benign, or a benign lesion in her kidney, i would argue it is probably not an emergency and probably something planned. >> and that she would go -- because last week as you remember, she had a big event at the white house, the be best event and she looked and sounded great, was there any indication
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that there was a medical problem? >> no. so the irony is -- of this news today is that we've seen more of the first lady in the past couple of weeks than perhaps in quite sometime. quite a few months. she hosted the state dinner for france and saw her in the white hat and watched her host in the evening and saw her again at be best in the rose garden giving a long 11-minute speech which is her longest public speaking engagement and then even on friday at the west wing at the military mother and spouses event with the president once again, she was delivering remarks and so certainly today's news with what we've seen of her lately, don't exactly go hand in hand but as the doctor said, we don't know behind the scenes whether she was experiencing pain and grinning through it or whether she wanted to make sure her initiative came first and announced that beforehand or what the circumstances were. but we've seen her quite a bit the last few weeks. >> so as far as we know, she went over to walter reed army medical center this morning for this procedure, right. >> sure. i think -- we don't know that
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for certain. we could speculate that her doctor probably either said arrive last night and get you prepped or this morning and get you prepped. what we do know is this afternoon when the statement was released, her office said things did go well with the procedure. >> the president did not go over there. >> he did not go over there. and covering the first lady as i have and knowing her and how she operates, she's very private. it is remarkable that her office in the east wing had zero leaks. the first lady of the united states checking into a hospital for a procedure, no one knew a thing about it until after it happened. juxtapose with what we're hearing about the west wing and how that operation goes on. it is a very different scenario and i'm not surprised the president wasn't there. i would imagine that is the first lady's doing and she like -- with him comes more hubbub and motorcade and press pool and knowing what we know about her, she's not one to sort of attract a lot of attention or want a lot of attention and i imagine this was her request. >> getting to the tweets that are coming in.
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speaker paul ryan, so pleased her procedure was successful. wishing float us a full and speedy recovery and chuck schumer, just heard news that flotus underwent surgery. >> has the president tweeted? >> he has not tweeted -- about other topics but not -- >> in the last moment or two we're getting a tweet and will put that up in a moment. and kate, you're the expert on the first ladies, how do you think this has been handled. >> it is surprising how private she has been and to get this sudden news coming out that she had this procedure. this is not the first lady to undergo a procedure in the white house, nancy reagan had a mastectomy in 1987 and laura bush had a surgery for a pinched nerve, this seemed more serious than for a pinched nerve certainly. but she's a -- she has a young
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son and i'm sure there was a nerve-wracking situation to be in and they are human like everyone else and they have surgeries that happen during the time in the white house. >> the president just tweeted, heading over to the walter reed to see first lady and she's in good spirits, thank you to all of the well wishers. the president just tweeted that. what is the formal recovery time, dr. burn stein, as for as -- she's going to be several days in the hospital. but what about after that? >> so again, as sanjay alluded to, this is a procedure and flot -- and not a surgery so she will have a full recovery and once they get her through the procedure period and her pain becomes more well controlled she'll engage in regular activities in the course of the next week or two. and that is how i would counsel my patients. >> and we're told the president is wheels up, marine one taking the president from the south lawn of the white house over to
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bethesda -- the u.s. army -- the medical facility, the military medical facility in bethesda, maryland in suburban washington. joe johns is on the scene for us. joe, update the viewers on what you're seeing and hearing? >> reporter: wolf, it is the usual security when the president of the united states comes here to walter reed. the street here on joan bridge road has been blocked off by police as they await the arrival of the president. of course, he did solve the puzzle for us, there is some question about the president traveling through the sometimes legendary washington, d.c. traffic and clear he decided to fly over by helicopter. of course, we do know that it has been a very closely guarded secret here until the statement came out this afternoon about the first lady's medical procedure. and interesting also, wolf, just to note, the truth of it, it is
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not just because of a vip here receiving surgery, there are also strong rules at what has been called the flagship of military medicine about hippa, those privacy rules that guard electronic records of patients. so they are very much treating the first lady like the other people here at walter reed get treated, a lot of secrecy and a very carefully as the president makes his way here to walter reed. >> how much information medical -- medical information would they normally release about a first lady and in a procedure like this? >> well usually it is very private. but betty ford paved the way when she come out with a release of her mastectomy in 1970 back when breast cancer was not something that people regularly discussed. it is very private. but eventually they do have to release something. when nancy reagan came back from her surgery, she stood in her
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bathrobe and every clapped for her and everybody has a affinity for the first lady and she's like -- in the polls she's 57% so well liked, compared to her husband's divisive nature and she's been out there a lot recently which make this is specifically kind of surprising. >> is it unusual that the president was not there at the walter reed medical center with her during the procedure and with her immediately afterwards? >> well, often the president is there, but george w. bush was flying back from an overseas trip when laura bush was having a procedure. i think it depends on the severity of the operation. how serious it is. a pinched nerve is not a serious seemingly as this. but i think it is -- it's also indicative of the way their relationship is. they are not as tight knit as the reagans had been. >> and talk about that, kate, about that relationship. >> to kate's point, he didn't go to jerusalem. he sent ivanka and jared and
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secretary mnuchin and that might be an indicator that he wanted to be near home. i think interestingly we've seen -- not only seen the first lady but with the president the past few weeks. we've seen a few of those awkward hugs and hand holding moments but certainly they've been together more. she spoke first at be best before he came up to give his remarks and she spoke first at the military mothers and spouses event in the east room. he got up there and said people love melanie and lady melania. we watched them together engaging in the past few weeks than we have this past few months with all of the salacious headlines surrounding the president. there is maybe something to look at concerning he must have nobody that this is -- she's experiencing a medical condition. something they kept private. but maybe perhaps it helped him support her more or bonded more, we don't know but the relationship feels in the past week or so a bit more cordial and friendly and co heesive t--
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cohesive than we've seen it. >> and doctor bernstein, every surgery has a complication and we wish her a speedy recovery but the doctors say there are potential side effects or some procedures -- but go ahead and explain and -- while you're talking the president boarding marine one moments ago. he's already on the way to bethesda medical center. but here he is leaving the south lawn of the white house. what are the potential complications? >> so as sanjay alluded to, what they did is they threaded a little catheter into a blood vessel. so the axis so the blood vessel there is a chance for bleeding and pain at that site and -- so that is the biggest discomfort in the groin area where they went in and assuming pain or discomfort from the site where they -- where they stopped the blood supply to that particular part of the kidney. other than that, there is a chance of potential bleeding, sometimes infection could
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develop afterwards as well and those are the reasons they want to keep her in the hospital and monitor her. >> so that might be why sanjay, they want to keep her in the hospital for a few days. just to be on the safe side. she is the first lady after all of the united states. >> yeah. no i think that is very fair. and i think call it an abundance of caution because she is the first lady, i think the only point that i think should also be made is that when these -- these type of procedures are done, there is sort of a normal course of hospitalization and i think as dr. burnstein mentions, if you look at the data, most people -- this could even sometimes, these type of procedures be done on what is called an outpatient basis, meaning you could go home the same day. a lot of times patients are kept in the hospital overnight. to be monitored for those very reasons. to make sure pain is well controlled and make sure the embolization did the job they thought it would do. make sure there is no signs of any problems or infection.
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just three or four days seems longer. it seems longer than normal. but there could be a variety of reasons for that. clearly in the statement they said everything went sploojly. so there -- i don't think there is anything -- it sounds like from their standpoint to worry about. >> but usually if you could get out of the hospital as quickly as possible, sanjay, you know this and dr. bernstein, you don't want the pa-- the patientn the hospital for potential for infection and germs and you want the patient out of the hospital as quickly as possible, right? >> yeah, no, absolutely. as dr. bernstein knows, hospital withes where people get sick because there is patients who have infectious diseases and things like that so you don't want pashs -- want patients to stay in the hospital longer than necessary. i don't want to read too much into this. it sounds like from the statement things went smoothly. she is the first lady. maybe going back and forth, if she has to come back in for
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follow up poix-- follow up appointments it could be too much. but three or four days or whatever -- four days until friday, seems like a long time for this sort of procedure. but this is an unusual circumstance, it sounds like given who the patient is in this case. >> and what about the credibility issue. because you were there at the medical briefing when the president's health was discussed by his white house physician, dr. ronny jackson. the white house said everything is smooth. everything is great. she's going to spend a few days in the hospital and then going home. should we just take that for granted? >> that is a good question, wolf. i think there is -- sometimes i'm not suggesting anything is inaccurate with the press briefing with dr. jackson, i think it was more question sometimes of not getting all of the information. so more sins of omission if you will with the press briefing and dr. jackson it became clear afterwards that president trump had had several tests to investigate the status of his heart while we got all kinds of
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lab results about the president, most of them very normal, this pretty significant test, we weren't even told he had that done. i happened to know he had it done from other sources and that is why i asked about it. here -- i'm not suggesting anything is inaccurate here. i would -- i think it would be nice to know what exactly the first lady was having treated in this case. we're just told a benign kidney condition which is good information to have. benign is very important to know. what was it that was being treated? was she having symptoms beforehand, what sort of prompted this as kate was saying, we don't think this was an emergency. this was probably planned but things we still don't know. >> and dr. bernstein, you worked at the walter reed medical center, she could have gone to any hospital here in washington, george washington university or georgetown or washington hospital or to new york and she's probably familiar with
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doctors in new york. why walter reed? >> well, as alluded to, it is the military medicine and they have probably one of the reasons is they have the secure vip ward to take care of the first lady if she is not in a regular hospital room she's in i'm sure a nice suite and being well attended to and the security is excellent and the medical staff and the nursing care is excellent and staying in the hospital a couple of extra days is not what staying in a regular hospital room for her and for convenience and privacy and security, i think it makes sense. >> i'm sure she has a single room. doesn't have a double room or anything like that. we wish her only the best. we're standing by. the president will arrive at the walter reed medical center in bethesda, maryland. we'll have live coverage. stick around. much more right after this. ♪ ♪
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the first lady of the united states lady melania is now recovering from a kidney procedure from walter reed. president trump we're told has landed there and he flew aboard marine one from the white house over to bethesda, maryland. our senior washington correspondent joe johns is also on the scene. joe, the aircraft -- the helicopter has landed. what is the latest? >> reporter: well, you know those signature green and white helicopters designated as air force one, we saw two of them hit the land here on the l.z. and depart just a few minutes ago. also the pool reporting that the
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president has arrived here at walter reed. we also know that the traffic and this busy thoroughfare outside of washington, d.c. in bethesda has been restored. so the president apparently inside of the hospital here to meet and greet his wife melania who underwent that procedure earlier today, wolf. >> joe johns we'll get back to you. and dr. bernstein, the vice president just tweeted this. second lady and i are relieved our dear friend flotous medical procedure is -- is successful and are praying for her swift recovery. >> and the procedure is a catheterization where they threat a catheter into a blood vessel surgery and involve making a large incision to go in
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and either laproscopicly or open to make a big incision to take care of the so procedure suggests a minor aspect or a less invasive aspect to that. >> sanjay, do you want to elaborate on that. >> people do use the terms interchangeable by, but when you are -- when you're performing an operation, it does involve trying to access that particular area and in this case the kidneys. so using an incision, getting to the kidney directly, being able to look at what -- whatever it is that is being treated, here you are doing things -- in a more minimally invasive way. it is just a -- a large -- like a large iv in your -- and through that i.v. you thread this little catheter into the blood vessels and that is what goes up near the kidney to try and inject something to stop the blood flow to that area of the kidney. so it is -- it is more than
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semantics. i think procedure is a less invasive thing. if she had had surgery, i think that would be a -- something that would be more concerning and have longer recovery period. all of the things that go with a bigger operation versus something more minor. >> but she would still need an anesthesiology and out during this procedure. >> that is a good question. when we talk about anesthesia, there is general anesthesia which means the person who is receiving this -- they could not breathe on their own so they have to put in a breathing tube. versus more sedation where you are giving medications to make someone sleepy and medications to control pain. we don't know what she had. dr. bernstein -- because he does these type ever procedures, i think my guess is typically it is more the latter with something like that, more sedation and not true general anesthesia. >> i would agree. it is still administered by a n
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anesthesiologist and probably likely a sedation with medications administered through an i.v. into the vein as opposed to putting her too sleep and having a breathing tube. >> kate, you are getting reporting. >> the first lady is in good reports according to her communications director and doing well is what she told the press pool and the president spoke on the phone with the marco rubio -- first lady and spoke to her -- and very much checking in via the phone with his wife and with her physician. >> do you think based on her history there will be a full briefing by her surgeons. >> i highly doubt it. after nancy reagan, sher prognosis was not revealed and that is a more serious procedure. typically they don't do briefings. the east wing is very, very private. and so getting information on
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the east wing is always very difficult and that is why i'm impressed they were so forth coming with details today. it is a very good sign i think. >> i wanted to add, the note about stephanie gish am, she was dressed head to toe in the hospital scrubs and had been in the room with the first lady and there during the day that she's wearing he's hospital scrubs. >> we know the president is at walter reed himself and we wish -- sand i speak for all ever us, a speedy recovery and only the best for the first lady. thank you very much. we'll follow other news, the candidate donald trump, he vowed he would stand up to china and protect american jobs but president trump is now pledging to save jobs in china. we have details, stay with us. you're in "the situation room."
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have had problem with this company. >> people at home doesn't know, but zte make the fourth selling brand name cell phone here and people have zte phones and they don't realize and it has two major national security strikes against it. the first is that every u.s. intel agency said that zte phones made by a chinese company close to the chinese government are at risk at surveillance, electronic back doors by the chinese government. the surveillance agencies. listened to hill testimony earlier this year when the intelligence chiefs were asked about zte. >> will you please raise your hand if you would use products from wau way or zte. none of you. raise your hand if you would recommend that american citizens use wau way or zte services. none of you are raising your hand. >> and all of those are trump
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apointy -- apointies. and zte violated u.s. sanctions against both iran and north korea and lied about vile alting those sanctions an that is what led to a second restriction from the u.s. the u.s. is no longer allowed u.s. companies to sell hardware to zte which is necessary to make the cell phones. and i spoke to someone in the administration who said what they are trying to handle here is to allow -- or have the possibility of allowing u.s. companies to sell those components to zte again because without them, zte goes out of business. this is a major ask from the chinese government and then presumably the u.s. would get something in return. they would not stop warning americans not to buy these phones but remarkably, they would if there is a quid pro quo here allowing u.s. firms to ship the components out there. so it is a remarkable company for the president to throw a life line to.
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>> and he's tweeting about it, trying to help them get jobs back in china which is pretty extraordinary. thank you very much for that, jim. joining us now akeem jeffries of new york, a member of the judiciary committee. is this company zte a threat to u.s. national security? >> well it is absolutely a threat to u.s. national security and as pointed out, it appears americans who utilize zte products are at risk of back door surveillance by the chinese or other malignant foreign actors. that in and of itself is a problem. but the whole episode illustrates, wolf, one of the things that has been most challen challenging about the trump operation and the president. he said one thing and does another. he promised that the tax cut bill would not benefit the wealthy and the well off and enacts a bill where 83% of the benefits go to the wealthiest 1% of the country. he promised he would not support
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cuts for social security and medicare and medicaid and then a few months ago turned around and introduced a budget that would cut at least a trillion dollars from social security, medicare and medicaid. and of course the president promised that he was going to focus on good-paying american jobs and then he turns around and publicly indicates that he's directing his administration to focus on saving jobs overseas in china. it's shocking. >> he tweeted this yesterday, president xi of china and are working together to give zte a way to get back into business fast. too many jobs in china lost. commerce department has been instructed to get it done. so what do you make of this? does it look like a concession from the u.s. to china ahead of the north korea talks? >> that is certainly possible but the problem is, it is a concession on the backs of working families and middle class folks and blue-collar
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americans who trump and this administration and all of us are quite frankly in the united states congress should be focused on helping out. we as a country and certainly the president should be focused on good-paying american jobs and promoting strong economic growth here. the president should be focused on dealing with our under employment problems. yes, unemployment is relatively low. but you have a lot of americans who are working in dead end retail jobs that don't provide a meaningful pathway into the middle class and part of the problems is that many of the jobs have been shipped overseas to china. let's focus on bringing them bang and apparently the president is in a totally different place. >> let's get to other issues. the president's personal attorney, rudy giuliani, is using the upcoming north korea summit as a reason to push back the timeline of any potential interview with the special counsel robert mueller. giuliani said the interview
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should come after the president's meeting with kim jong-un scheduled for june 12th and in singapore and said that would be -- that meeting is far, far more important. does that sound like a legitimate excuse to delay any such conversation? >> well certainly i think that we all would like to see progress made in north korea. it remains to be seen whether that will be brought about or not. but rudolph giuliani is out of control. nobody could trust what he's saying and it is unclear. he's a failed mayor toward the end of the second term and a failed attorney on behalf of the president of the united states right now. it is not even clear whether he's speaking for the president, the president has publicly admonished him. i think -- listen, at the end of the day, the special prosecutor bob mueller is a war hero. he was a former well respected fbi director. he's a republican. he's somebody that both sides of the aisle have long respected in washington, d.c. we should just let bob mueller
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do his job and in part that is going to involve making sure that there is a thorough interview or engagement with the president of the united states to get to the bottom of what happened in the 2016 election where it appears there was some form of conspiracy between members of the trump campaign and russian spies who were hacking in to our election. >> giuliani isn't ruling out the possibility that the president could assert his fifth amendment right and refuse to do an interview with mueller. can the special counsel get to the bottom of this entire russia investigation without the president's input? >> well i think the president's information is going to be particularly important. he's a hands-on individual and that is the way he had been for the 70-plus years of his life prior to assuming the presidency. there is no reason to believe he was anything other than hands on with respect to his campaign and therefore he's a very important witness at minimum in terms of what may have unfolded.
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ultimately we'll see. the supreme court may weigh in one way or the other if the president refuses to cooperate. but let's take the president at his own words. during the campaign trail, he repeatedly said if somebody takes the fifth amendment, it suggests that they are guilty. that they have something to hide. so i -- i have reason to believe that the president will follow his own advice and would cooperate with bob mueller unless he is hiding something from the american people. >> congressman jeffries, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, work. still ahead, more on the breaking news. the first lady lady melania hospitalized after a kidney procedure and the president is with her right now. we test all of our paints and stains for months. or even years. because you deserve paint that's done right. that's proudly particular. benjamin moore. the standard for paint professionals. only at local paint and hardware stores.
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breaking news. the first lady melania trump is at the walter reed medical center in bethesda, maryland, recovering from a kidney procedure. let's bring in our analysts and dana bash, what do you think? we don't have a lot of details but they're saying she's doing fine. >> yes. and let's hope so. that she's doing fine. there is a lot that we don't know. but look, she's the first lady. she's not the president. she is as kate bennett reminds us all of the time, about the most private first lady that we've seen in some time. and it is no secret that there have been reasons recently why
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she's been private in doing her own thing. recently until the past -- the three weeks or so where she has been more up front in public. we'll see if we learn more about what exactly the it's sort of a hard issue to penetrati penetration. they don't want to give a lot of details, obviously. we just need to wish her well and hopefully everything went okay. >> the president is over at walter reed. he toted -- heading over to see our great first lady. successful procedure, she is in good spirits, thank to you all of the well wishers. >> and tweeted just before that about his view on leaks. so he she is according to our polling, significantly more pop ought lars.
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two things instrument me. this is a leakiest in terms of the amount of -- her operation, and indicate bennett -- her occupation is remarkably small and they do a good job of keeping this stuff out of the news. she helping round him out. the more she was on the campaign trail, the better for donald trump. she warms him up, gives him a back story that i'm a guy who you see on television. so he needs her quite literally from a political perspective as well as their relationship. she helps him, without question. >> as chris points out, she's a private person. she was out there last week on her "be best" program.
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57% favorable, 27% unfavorable. she's doing better than her husband. >> not surprisinging. when you think of mel lannia trump, you don't think of the same connection as you might with bill clinton and hillary clinton. they're very sympathetic to the fact that i think they look and say, wow, you have a lot to handle. the fact is she has to deal with something who as aggressive as he is, as opinionated as he is, and she has been able to be very careful about what she says. she does have a young son. i'm not surprised we haven't heard much about this, up to this point. we eventually will, but there's something that we should respect. >> i think you're exactly right. unlike recent first ladies,
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michelle obama, even laura bush, we heard a lot from them, more as their terms went on, their husband's terms went on, but one of the reasons she's so intriguing to many americans is because she's a little mysterious. she doesn't give speeches. it's not her things for a lot of reasons. the fact that this news is breaking, clearly i'm sure she's uncomfortable with it, but it sort of adds to the mystique and mystery. let me get to a legal question. the president's personal are personal attorney, rudy giuliani, he says to the special counsel, don't even think about interviews the president before he june 12th summit with kim jong-un, he's way too busy for a conversation like that. what does that say? >> on the one hand we have to get this thing down, close it down, have to do it yesterday. on the other hand let's not
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think about it. i'm one that believes, to be clear and to be fair, the cause of world peace is very significant. i think the meeting represents a lot, right? nobody wants a nuclear disaster, would be the first time a sitting u.s. president met, 65 years ago. having said that, you can run, but you can't hide. the investigation is not going away. i don't believe ever there will be a sit-down with mueller, notwithstanding what the president says about the mob and fifth amendment, et cetera, et cetera. because there are political realities and legal realities. the political realities are they are what they are -- if you're not guilty, why don't you sit down. that's ought night a political. this president has a problem telling the truth. as much as it might help the investigators for the president to sit down, his personal lawyer knows it, notwithstanding the missteps with stormy daniels,
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the missteps that he was denying the merger, he had nothing to do with the merger, i think rudy giuliani understands a very significant thing. remember, the president can always say i wanted to sit down with the special counsel, but my lawyers say i can't do it. so i'm sorry. that gives him political cover. legally he can't do it. stick around, there's a lot more news we're following, including the breaking news on the first lady. melania trump underwent a procedure for who her office says is a kidney condition. she may remain in the hospital through the rest of this week as president trump pays a visit. whoooo.
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