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book, a bestseller entitled "war on peace: the end of diplomacy and the decline of american influence." congratulations on that, thanks for all the terrific reporting, ronan. >> good to be here. >> that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. floent, breaking news. paul manafort's former son-in-law reaching a plea deal. what does this mean for manafort and the russia investigation? the white house canceling its daily communications meetings. they're not going to do them anymore. after a staffer's cruel joke at one of them leaked about senator john mccain. is it really the right answer, to stop having meetings? the racist rant heard round the world. a lawyer threatening to call i.c.e. on spanish speakers in a new york restaurant. let's go "outfront." i'm erin burnett. "outfront," the breaking news, possible new legal trouble for president trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort.
his former son-in-law has flipped. he's now cooperating with the feds. as part of jeffrey yohide's plea agreement, the son-in-law is now cooperating with new york's attorney general's office as well which is working with bob mueller's investigation which as you may know turned one year old today. yohide first met with investigators in 2017, according to sources providing information to federal investigators for the manafort probe in possible money laundering, tax evasion violations, all that was under way. he started to provide information which was turned over to bob mueller. manafort has been charged with a whole lot of things including money laundering, failure to disclose himself as a foreign agent, bank fraud, and tax fraud. he continues though to maintain his innocence. i want to go straight to kara scannell in washington breaking this story. carol, what are you learning about this plea deal with manafort's former son-in-law? >> erin, that's right, so
manafort's former son-in-law, jeffrey yohie, has reached a plea agreement with the u.s. attorneys office in los angeles. prosecutors have been investigating him over a year relating to real estate dealings he has had in that area. he's been sued in many civil lawsuits alleging he defrauded his investors, including actor dustin hoffman. as part of this plea agreement he'll have to cooperate with authorities, any authorities, so that could be the new york attorney general's office which is investigating manafort, as well as special counsel mueller's team. a person familiar with the agreement says it has to do with yohie's own real estate development deals and is not obviously related to manafort, so it's not clear how much information he will be able to provide mueller. but he certainly will have to answer any question that any investigators in the state or federal have for him. >> and as you report, you're talking about los angeles, but as part of this, also cooperating with the new york
attorneys office which is work with bob mueller's investigation. as you point out, the crucial question is what does this mean for bob mueller? it's the second person close to manafort who's cooperating with federal investigators of some type or another. rick gates the other. manafort's long-time 10ty. deputy. >> that's right. manafort has two trials coming up. one july, one september, on those indictments that special counsel mueller's team brought against him alleging allegations of tax fraud and bank fraud. and so the question will be what does yohie have, if anything, to offer the investigators in that case? he could be called as a witness if he has something relevant to those investigations. and that's something that we'll see how that plays out the next couple of months. >> kara, thank you very much. former nixon white house counsel john dean, white house correspondent for american urban radio networks april ryan, and former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york harry sandick. harry, paul manafort obviously is a very important player here.
he was the chairman of the president's campaign. he was in that meeting in trump tower. you now have his deputy rick gates and his former son-in-law essentially flipping. so what is the significance of his son-in-law flipping when you talk about -- talking about l.a. and new york, cooperating with mueller, put all in in english, what does it mean to mueller? >> i think what it means is as we get closer to the trial date, in order to try to convince manafort to cooperate with the investigation, they want to appear to manafort like the walls are closing in. so your former business partner gates is going to be testifying against you. now your own former son-in-law. who knows what things he was privy to. when i say who knows, the answer is mueller and these other investigators know. it may well be that the allegations in yohie's case have nothing to do with what he's going to be talking about about mueller, but once you're a cooperator in the federal government, you're a cooperator for all purposes.
you don't just limit it to what you've been charged with. >> so as kara said, anything they ask, and they are cooperating with mueller. anything mueller wants. this is now essentially open-door policy, basically. >> exactly. he's sitting there, manafort, imagining, what did i tell him? what was he privy to? what calls was hi present for? what e-mails did i forward to him? what did we talk about around the house, at family gatherings? >> what is the significance here? manafort has said he's not guilty, he's fought everything, he lost an important case moving forward in d.c. this week but he said he's not guilty of tax evasion, not guilty of bank fraud. is the goal here to get manafort to flip? and i guess the question has always been on whom, is that then the president? >> i think that is the ultimate goal, that the special counsel would rather have manafort talking rather than in prison or in the courtroom fighting cases. this case, this plea, according
to curt reports, was -- the document was handed down in january. there's been local press about his son-in-law out here. they were tearing down properties, investing money, taking a $3 million property, making it into purportedly a $30 million property. there are a lot of unhappy investors. he was accused of ponzi schemes. so there's also reports that manafort was investing in this. so there may be part of the case in virginia against manafort is based on this son-in-law's testimony. >> how much pressure, april, does this put on manafort if the ultimate goal is to get him to talk, open his mouth, and flip? >> it's a lot of pressure. because someone who was at least once in your family, when you sit around the kitchen table or at dinner somewhere or just in conversation, some things slip out. the question is, can that be used against him? any time you get a family member
or even a former family member, you don't know what the relationship is right now. so it does put pressure on him. it also not only puts pressure on manafort, even as the president says this is a witch hunt on this year anniversary, it puts pressure on this white house. even though mueller has told, allegedly told rudy giuliani that he will not be indicted, it still does not bode well that the president's former campaign manager, his son-in-law, is now going to flip on him to possibly get to the president or maybe the children or somewhere in that realm. it's a lot of pressure on all involved. >> and as april brings up, rudy giuliani, the reporting was he says they said they won't indict. but it's possible they could say, congress, we recommend you impeach. there's other things they could do that would be incredibly damning for this president. pbs spoke to minnesorudy giuliay and he tweeted out, mueller's team communicated with trump
lawyers last night and are narrowing questions for possible interview with president trump. it would be going a little too far to say he's going to sit down but it looks more hopeful than it did a day or so ago. assume giuliani's accurately putting this out there. that's an assumption. say that's the case. what's the strategy here? >> i think the strategy is that mueller would really like to interview trump. and he'd like to do it in the near future. he doesn't want to go into court and take all of this litigation risk that the supreme court might view something differently -- >> with a subpoena or something. >> exactly. if you're the prosecutor, you're better off, even if it's narrow, with a face-to-face interview, voluntarily undertaken, no assertion of executive privilege or the fifth. i think mueller's probably willing to give a little bit in order to avoid the risk. >> john, do you think that mueller really wants this interview with the president? there's just so much gamesmanship going on, both sides, publicly from the president's side vis-a-vis giuliani. does mueller want this interview or does he not need it for
whatever he may or may not have? >> we don't know what mueller knows or doesn't know. i would think the president would want to give this testimony. this is a counter intelligence investigation as well as a criminal investigation. i would think if he can clear himself, he would want to go in there and do it and be on the record of doing it rather than hiding behind any kind of privilege or what have you. that's what bill clinton ultimately did. that's the reason he decided to testify. that he thought politically it was wiser. he got himself in trouble, but that drove his decision. >> and april, you know -- remember we all heard that the former trump attorney, ty cobb, had said to the president, this is going to be over thanksgiving. then christmas. i don't know who was mismanaging whom but obviously the president got really mad about it because it nevereneded. here we one year in. average special counsel investigations go on three to six years. are we almost done?
or are we barely started? >> i have no clue as to if we are almost done. but looking at what happened during the clinton years, it looks like there's more. because this seems to be gift that keeps on giving, it keeps flowering, there's always some nuance. what we do know is that mueller's group or his team, they're watching and listening to the president, they're listening to the briefings, they're listening and watching and finding new things. so i think the president is doing the right thing by not talking as much, as well as his press secretary. but the question is what do they have, and what more are they looking for? so, are sarah huckabee sanders said they wanted it to be done, they were hopeful within that first year. it looks like it could go into the second year, maybe even a third. we'll see what happens. >> all right, thank you all very much. next, president trump congratulating america on the one-year anniversary as his
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president trump marking one year since bob mueller was selected as special counsel and the president did it, as he is opt to do in twitter -- >> trump's own fbi director of course says it isn't a witch hunt but the white house doesn't seem to care about that. >> no evidence of collusion and still strongly believe that it's a witch hunt. i'm not sure how we could be any more clear and certainly not sure how the president could be any more clear about his beliefs and his opinion. >> "outfront," the democratic congressman from new york, jerry nadler, ranking member of the house judiciary committee. great to have you with me as always. the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, tells cnn he was told
by bob mueller that bob mueller will not and cannot indict a sitting president, no matter what he finds. do you think that rudy giuliani is accurately portraying this conversation with the special counsel's team? and do you agree, no way mueller will indict? >> well, i don't know whether mueller will indict or not. but giuliani's been all over the map in what he has said on this. the fact is that there is a -- an open legal question as to whether a sitting president can be indicted. the office of legal counsel's ruled that he has opined he cannot be. but the counsel to the special prosecutor, ken starr, and others have said he can be. my opinion is the sitting president can be indicted because of the bedrock constitutional principle that no person is above the law. so i think he could be indicted. whether he will be who knows, that depends on what the evidence is. one thing we know about this investigation is they have not been leaking, so we don't know what evidence there is.
>> fair. >> all we really know is who they've indicted and they've indicted quite a few people, had quite a few guilty pleas. we know what the court filings are. >> jnlg is saying that mueller says he will not indict the president. giuliani also says that trump cannot be subpoenaed either. and here's what he said. >> we're pretty comfortable that in the circumstances of this case, they wouldn't be able to subpoena him personally. they could probably require you to testify in a civil case. possibly even as a witness in a criminal case. but they can't require you to testify if what would be your own case because after all, it's all about a possible impeachment. >> so they're discussing this is the president gas to sit for an interview or not, will he do it by choice, will there be a subpoena? if you take it, though, congressman, that there wouldn't be an indictment, for whatever reason, should, would, doesn't matter, there isn't one, mueller could refer his findings to you
all, to the house, for possible impeachment. is that something you would actually proceed with, that you would ever have the votes for? >> well -- well, first of all, the president will testify before mueller. because mueller cannot complete the investigation of possible obstruction of justice without the president's testimony. if the president doesn't do it voluntarily, he will subpoena him. >> you're confident in that, okay. >> the president will have to submit to a subpoena, even if there's a court fight, there's no question a president can be subpoenaed and will be if necessary. and they can't wrap up the investigation until the president is interviewed or testifies. as to an impeachment, we are far, far from ready to consider any such thing. we do not know -- i mean, the first thing that has to happen is the special prosecutor has to finish his investigation. has to come to conclusions. issue whatever indictments and trials there are going to be. and issue a report to the
american people which will tell us what he found. and that report will have to be made public. and based on that report, and based on any other evidence that there may be, the evidence that comes out and whatever indictments there may be, we'll see if there's a case that would justify congressional proceedings or impeachment or not. but it's far from clear what that ilwill be. we'll have to wait and see. >> giuliani says there's nothing illegal, by the way, i don't know if you heard this. he said don jr., manafort, kushner meeting with the russians at trump tower, there's nothing illegal about that, even if they thought it was all about getting dirt on hillary clinton. he was very explicit about it and detailed. here's what he said. >> when i ran against them, they were looking for dirt on me every day. i mean, that's what you do. maybe you shouldn't, but you do it. nothing illegal about that. and even fit comes from a russian or a german or an american, doesn't matter. >> doesn't matter. russian, german, american.
agree? >> well, no, i don't agree. now he's right in one sense, there's nothing illegal about opposition research. so there was nothing illegal, for example, about hillary clinton's campaign paying for that research that resulted in that famous dossier. that's opposition research. what there is illegal is involving a foreign government in an american political campaign. the real question over there is, we know that the russian government stole e-mails from the democratic national committee and the question -- and was that for the benefit of the trump campaign? it was used for the benefit of the trump campaign. was the trump campaign aware of that in advance? did they help plan that? did they help use it? if they did, that would be criminal conspiracy, against the law. but that's one of the open questions of the investigation. >> and congressman, i want to ask you about another story we're confirming tonight here at cnn, that a qatar-linked company is near a deal to acquire a
stake in the kushner family's flagship building. that building is under financial duress, it's here in new york. it's a very important building to the kushner companies. i want to know, a brooksfield spokesperson says no qatar-linked company has involvement in or knowledge of this potential transaction, they're saying it's in a separate fund. i want to lay out the timing. it could be relevant. in march, kushner's father confirmed he met with the finance minister from qatar. that was three months after the inauguration is when this meeting happened. they discussed funding for the project. so they had a discussion with qatar about funding it, didn't reach a deal. that was what happened. kushner's father said, i'm not going to take foreign money because i don't want to have a conflict of interest for my son. he took that meeting with qatar. no deal was reached. then in june, all of a sudden qatar getted blockaded. president of the united states says he supports it. qatar is funding terror. kushner backed that move at the white house. now here we are, may of 2018.
all of a sudden the qataris, still under blockade, could be -- they are involved in the brookfield companies. brookfield says, not in this particular fund. but this lifeline to the kushner building appears to be imminent. is this timeline coincidence? >> i don't know. it certainly raises a lot of questions. maybe there's quid pro quos there, maybe not, i don't know. but this illustrates the problem that the president hasn't divested himself of his business interests. and the business interests of the kushner family with jared kushner being adviser to the president as well as son-in-law. so all of these raise questions as to whether decisions of the united states government are being influenced by business considerations of the trump businesses or of the kushner businesses. that's one reason why every president before this has divested himself of all those
interests. and the fact that the president hasn't is very troublesome. and may lead to real problems. >> jared kushner did not either. thank you very much, congressman nadler, appreciate your time. next, president trump contradicts his own national secures adviser on north korea. what lengths will trump go to get a deal with kim jong-un? plus new details tonight about the new york lawyer who went on a racist rant. >> speaking spanish to customers when he should be speaking american. >> and he's talking to reporters tonight.
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jarring choice of words. i mean, president trump is saying he wants to make sure a dictator who's accused of assassinating his own half-brother, executing his uncle, starving hundreds of thousands of his own people is "very, very happy." so happy trump is also willing to publicly contradict his national security adviser, john bolton, whose recent comments comparing plans for north korea to what the united states did in libya made kim very, very unhappy. >> the libyan model isn't a model that we have at all. what we're thinking of north korea. i think when john bolton made that statement, he was talking about if we're going to be having a problem. because we cannot let that country have nukes. we just can't do it. so that's the way it meant. just the opposite. >> so -- okay. it's just confusing because the whole point was libya gave up their nukes, that's what he wants korea to do, gadhafi was killed, you see kim's problem
with that, okay. could trump be saying this because he wants something his predecessor, president obama, has? >> do you deserve the nobel prize, you think? >> everyone thinks so but i would never say it. [ crowd chanting "nobel" ] >> that's very nice, thank you. very nice. nobel. i just want to get the job done. >> what do you think you'll achieve in the upcoming summit that would deserve a nobel peace prize? >> well, i don't know. >> jim sciutto "outfront" in washington, putting aside that, it always makes me laugh, the channels. how short is the white house that this meeting between kim and trump is going to happen and it's on? >> they seem more sure today than they were yesterday when the north koreans injected some doubt into the conversation. and they are now on a footing where they're still in the planning stages. assuming that they're without major disruptions, this is still going to happen. but again, the ball is constantly changing here.
there was some news in the last few minutes that the top south korean negotiator said the following, it is true that there is a difference of opinion between north korea and the u.s. on how to pull off denuclearization. you might say that's a pretty significant difference of opinion since that's a central question to these negotiations. to those questions are going to stick with us right up until that meeting and certainly through that meeting to see what comes out of it. in the meantime what you don't have is a clear message coming from this very administration. because you heard the president there say something about john bolton's offering up the libyan model. but it doesn't -- it isn't clear the president knew exactly what john bolton was talking about. and just so folks can recall, here's exactly what john bolton said regarding the libyan model. >> we have very much in mind the libyan model from 2003-2004. there are obviously differences. the libyan program was much smaller. but that was basically the agreement that we made. >> so bolton there was referring
to that agreement as he said in 2003-2004 which had the libyans question of up their nuclear weapons. 2011 the u.s. participated in military action against libya, decimating them as the president said. so it's not clear if he was mixing up the two, or he was also as you were saying, erin, trying to send a message to north korea kowtowing to some degree to north korea there saying, listen, trust us, you're going to be safe, in fact, i'm going to guarantee your safety if you sign this deal. which as you said would be a pretty remarkable promise for a u.s. president to make to the dictator of north korea. >> it certainly would when you consider his track record. thank you so much, jim. i want to go to the former senior adviser to the national security adviser under the obama administration. phil mudd, former cia counter terror official. phil, does the president just want a deal here too much? no matter what it takes, kim is going to be very, very happy? i mean, that's something only trump would say, but it's still
pretty jarring to hear it said about kim jong-un of all people. >> i do think the president is now stuck. he's stuck in terms of saying he's going to show up for what he's explained will be a deal. i think regardless of what happens, he's going to characterize it as a deal. but i think we're overcomplicating this. look, the president is playing the used car salesman. you, erin burnett, show up on the used car lot, that car looks pretty good, i think $15,000 is a good price. the salesman says, you're a terrific negotiator, we're going to do a great deal, when you drive off the lot it's going to be wonderful. the president wants a deal, he's buttering up the person on the other side who's now nervous after the bolton comments. i don't think this is very complicated. >> of course you can understand kim jong-un's view of libya being brought up. nuclear weapons were gotten rid of, it was a few years later, but gadhafi's demise was brutal and awful and many do see it as a link between giving those up and regime change. but the president, he constantly has been fawning over kim jong-un. calling him excellent,
incredible, the hostage release, open and honest, now that he's going to be very, very happy. what is the strategy here in bending over so deeply? >> i don't know that we have a strategy. i think, unfortunately, the president handed the reins over to kim jong-un on march 8th. you and i were together here when he agreed to a meeting without assessing the credibility of the offer, what we wanted to get out of it, how long it would take to actually prepare for a meeting. so he backed himself into a corner several weeks ago. now they set a date and time. i think that the president is locked and loaded to show up in singapore regardless of whether we assess that the north is serious about anything that they're saying at this point. and i think john bolton chose his words very carefully last sunday when he spoke about libya. he knows what happened in libya, both in terms of denuclearization and gadhafi getting killed. i think john bolton was sending a message to kim jong-un, like trump was today, trying to walk that back, saying don't worry, you'll be okay, just show up at
this meeting. >> to the point the president has been bowing down to kim jong-un, there could an strategy in that, right? you butter him up, make him think everything is going to be great, and then you can come in with a much bigger stick. could that be part of it? could all of trump's fawning be very purposeful? >> sort of. but let's lay out a simple scenario. the president has laid his reputation on the line to cut a deal. he goes to singapore, there is some sort of deal. he steps back. we realize that as we have for the past 20, 25 years, that the north koreans aren't entirely honest. that's where the president's credibility with truth over the past couple of years really comes to play. the president really, as we've just talked about, as sam has said, has been invested in a deal. what if he learns from the cia, from the state department, and others, that the north koreans aren't complying? does he then come out, as trump is wont to do, and say, this is a great deal? or does he actually say, like with bush, obama, clinton, the north koreans screwed us again. that's what i would worry about.
the back end of this deal, whether the president is honest on whether the north koreans comply. >> you fall in love with your own deal. as some would say. sam, you may not totally agree, president obama got to a point he really wanted to get that deal with iran, who knows whether it was the best deal they could get. i know you think it was. with president trump, this nobel peace prize, it's something funny, he himself has laughed at it. but it keeps coming up again and again. here he is. >> i want to have peace in the world. that's what i really want. more so than the nobel peace prize or any other prize. i'd like to see peace ideally in the middle east, but in the entire world. >> how much does it matter, a nobel peace prize, to him? >> i don't know that i really blame him for wanting the nobel peace prize. i wish he would do what it took to actually get the prize. what i blame him for is telegraphing so publicly how badly he wants this to happen. again, he looks so overeager. and he's so overcommitted. i think that the north koreans know that they can push him
around now. and that he's going to do whatever it takes to make june 12th in singapore some kind of success that can be marketed as a step forward. >> quick question to you. this issue of protections. can i play again what the president offered to kim jong-un today? >> we're willing to do a lot. and he's willing to, i think, do a lot also. i think we'll actually have a good relationship, assuming we have the meeting, assuming something comes of it. and he'll get protections that will be very strong. >> what's he talking about, phil, protections? >> regime security. will the family continue? one quick penalty flag. if they don't comply and the president says on the front end, we respect your government and we will allow you to continue in power, what happens when they don't comply? that's the problem here. >> big problem. all right, thank you both very much. next, what's a white house to do when it can't stop leaking? the trump white house cancels its daily communications meetings altogether. the new york lawyer's racist rant against spanish-speaking people.
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new tonight, communications chaos. senior white house official confirming to cnn that the daily communications staff meeting has not happened for several days and has been suspended indefinitely. now the meeting is an important meeting. it involves two dozen communication staffers on any given day, usually every morning. it comes in the wake of someone leaking from the meeting what kelly sadler, the one who made the joke about john mccain and said, didn't matter if he opposed gina haspel as cia director because he's dying anyway, that leaked out. when they had a meeting chastising everybody for the leak, that leaked out too. now no more meetings. keith, let me start with you. you've been in these meetings, worked in the white house. how important -- people might say, meetings, roll their eyes. most of them are worthless. not this one, right? >> this is a very important meeting. there are two morning meetings
that used to take place when i was in the white house. one a senior staff meeting in the roosevelt room, everyone talk about what was going on throughout the government. the communications meeting followed that, we'd talk about what were we going to do to try to implement the message for the day? after we had all the information from the senior staff meeting. that's how you get message discipline. that's how you get everybody saying the same thing. being on the same page throughout the administration. without that, it's a recipe for chaos. >> recipe for chaos which is what we see all too often. is the white house cutting off its nose to spite its face? there's issues, something leaked out of a meeting, then the discussion about it leaked out, that's a problem. but is canceling the meeting altogether the answer? >> i think they're having a more senior meeting which is smart for the time being while they try to get their ship in order. i will say this -- >> people might be leaking maybe, then they leak even more, but go ahead. >> couple of things. i don't often criticize, certainly not the president nor the white house very often.
the white house com staff is not serving the president well. that is just reality. the leaks are exhibit a i think in that case against what's going on there. so number one, i think people need to be fired. we need to find out who these people are, they need to be fired, they need to be rolled out of the white house in a very public way. number two, i'll also say this. this is an important point. what's very different about this white house versus other white house is this president came into washington, d.c. in many ways as an insurgent against washington, d.c. and there are people, unfortunately, even on the white house staff, and the white house staff by the way is a lot bigger than we think. it's 4,000 people. there are a lot of people in the white house -- >> they're not all in the white house. >> there are a lot of people in the white house who are washingtonian insiders. they have dual loyalty. both to their swamp loyalties and a little bit to the
presidential power structure and it's time for them to be rooted out. >> okay. so obviously there is -- there are a lot of leakers in the white house. one of them is the president. it's his choice to leak, right? he's allowed to do it. but he calls people up all the time and says things. >> we can't say that as fact, do you know that? has he leaked to you? >> let's not get off on that diversion, let's answer the question. >> hold on, do you know that? you can't just say that as fact -- >> steve, stay on message. >> i want to read something to you that jonathan swann -- >> i'm trying to stick to the facts. >> he talked to a current white house staffer about the leaks. these are people he's been talking to, why are you leaking? one of them said, to be honest it probably falls into a couple of categories. the first is personal vendettas. two is to make sure there's an accurate record of what's really going on in the white house. okay. keith, have you ever seen anything like that? they're admitting to your point, steve, admitting it's personal vendettas. then they're saying, accurate record. which, steve, you would say is a swamp issue. i think you would say is people who think this president is not
serving the country well. >> well, yeah. i think it's not unusual for people who have vendettas to settle them in the media in any administration, to be honest. but what is different, i think what steve gets wrong, is that communication communications -- the problem is donald trump. the communications staff is basically doing what they're being told to do. who is the communications director right now? >> there isn't one. >> that's the point. >> president trump. >> we've had four communications directors in one year, in the first year, hope hicks left two months ago. there is no communications director right now. donald trump is basically trying to be his own communications director. so it's illogical to blame the staff when he doesn't even have anybody in charge of managing the communications. >> by the way, keith, in terms of his skills and communication, this is a man who got 63 million votes from the american people, who had no -- hold on, let me talk. no government experience --
>> it doesn't go to being communications director. >> it has total relevance, hold on -- >> wait, wait. how many votes are relevant to leaking in the white house? >> may i talk? >> stay on message. >> talk about the votes. talk about the leaking. >> you're worse than donald trump. stay on message. >> go ahead, steve. >> my point is, this is a man who understands communications better than any president we've had since ronald reagan. a man who masters social media. who masters speaking directly to the people very twitter. >> fair. >> our first citizen president ever with no prior government experience. the idea he doesn't understand communications i think is pretty insulting to the record. i will also say, though, this is important. the staff, i agree, is leaking too much. people need to be fired. but i'm not shocked. because he came into washington -- >> you need a communications director. >> -- is on an insurgent and that is not the case of george w. bush -- >> he needs somebody to stay on message. >> they did not come in as
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of how wrong what he sid i did was. >> reporter: he says he sprayed i paraded her and the restaurant employee accusing them of being undocumented and calming immigration employees on them, starting it all, english wasn't being spoken. >> it was simply because a customer ordered if spanish and then he heard myself and my best friend speaking to the gentleman making our food speaking in spanish. it set him off. >> reporter: this is not the first appearance in a controversial video. here he is in 2017, shouting at some ultraorthodoxed jews protesting against state of israel. then there is this encounter with a stranger in 2016. >> i'm going to call the police. you don't run into people. i'm a citizen here, are you not. you are an ugly foreigner. >> reporter: that so-called foreigner was willie morris born in massachusetts speaking out
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