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lot these days. constitutional law scholar lawrence tribe has done a deep dive on that second word impeachment. treason, high crimes and misdemeanors should trump the impeached. you might be surprised by his answer. and picking winners and losers in silicon valley is no easy task, but he's the best in the world at it. getting in on the ground floor of google and amazon among many other mega successes. what is his secret. but first here's my take. teachers are striking in state ace cross america and since last week was teacher appreciation week, i intended to written opt the subject but a more newsy topic intervened. that's a metaphor for what's happening to teachers in america today. we live in a media environment in which the urgent often crowds out the important. but this week i'm going to stick to my plans and talk about teachers.
sprawling novel about the great american west, he writes in the country the teacher was not only an intellectual and social leader, but also the matrimonial catch of the countryside. a family could walk proudly if a son married the schoolteacher. the picture painted is almost unrecognizable in today's america where school teachers are so poorly paid they are five times as likely as the average full-time worker to have a second job according to vox. we heard about stagnant wages, but the average pay tr a teacher injusted for inflation has declined over the last 15 years while health care costs have risen substantially. teachers earn 60% of what a professional with comparable education does. with low wages and stretched resources, american educators burn. out and quit the profession at
twice the rate at some of the highest achieving countries. since 35% fewer meshes have studied to become teachers, there are massive teacher shortages forcing schools nationwide to hire more than 100,000 people who lack the proper qualifications. the "new york times" reports it's so hard for public schools to find qualified americans that many districts are starting to recruit teachers from low wage countries like the philippines. it's not all about money. leading a classroom was never a pathway to riches. but teachers once did command the respect and status that stein beck's quote reflects. spent years doing careful comparisons have observed that the countries that do best in public education, singapore, south korea, can recruit top graduates into the teaching
ranks because they pay well, invest in the profession and their societies show deep respect for the profession. in america when we encounter a member of the armed services, many of us make it a point to thank them for their service. when was the last time you did that for a public schoolteacher? yes, education is a very complicated subject. although there are studies that indicate a significant correlation between teacher pay and student achievement. the education bureaucracy is rigid and often corrupt, but all this masks the central problem. over the last 30 years as part of the assault on government, bureaucrats and the public sector in general, being a teacher in america has become a thankless job. and yet teaching is the one p profession that makes all other professions possible.
the police screens objen moy were striking. they offer opened the jerusalem embassy. clashes took place in the 60 palestinians were killed by israeli forces and 3,000 were injured. back in jerusalem, here's what white house senior adviser and jared kushner had to say that day. >> i believe peace is within reach if we dare to believe that the future can be different from the past. >> really? well, let's bring in two experts. tom freedman is a "new york times" column skpis author of "thank you for being late", a guide to thriving in the age of
acceleration. hanana, let me start with you. what do you see from the palestinian point of view as the meaning of this move of the u.s. embassy. after all, jerusalem is the capital. what is wrong with the united states moving its embassy there? >> first of all, jerusalem is not the capital of israel. jerusalem is occupied territory. according to international law, it's an occupied city. jerusalem was occupied by israel in 48. east jerusalem was occupied in '67. but jerusalem is a palestinian city. to claim that israel has the right to choose its capital, yes, in its own land with its own boundaries, but they cannot
choose to create a capital on other people's lands. >> what does it say that the united states moved the embassy there? >> i think the u.s. has dealt a serious blow to the peace process, number one, or to the chances of peace. it's removed the core of the requirements of peace. it has this qualified itself as a peacemaker. jared kushner says peace is to be had had. you have destroyed the chances of peace. you have destroyed jerusalem. you have destroyed the refugees unilaterally by striking. you do not talk about a two-state solution. so what peace? they have totally negated every single. component of the requirements of peace. >> tom freedman, how do you see it? >> let's go back to what kushner
said. by moving the em bassy to jerusalem the united states has taken that off the table. only israelis and palestinians can take that off the table. palestinians know that. so let me speak in terms of trump's own language. if i were trump and wanted to use this as an advance of the peace process, what would a sane intelligent wise president done if he was insisting on to this move? he would say i'm going to recognize jerusalem as your capital without defining west or east jerusalem. i'm going to get a freeze on all israeli settlements. no more ever again deep inside
palestinian territory. then he could have -- if this is trump. he could have said i got a freeze onset thements outside the settlement blocks. that would have been the art of the deal. trump did the art of the give away. he gave away one of the most valuable leverage tools in middle east diplomacy for free. it was for a bit of diplomatic pornography. when you bring in a bunch of far right evangelical speakers to inaugurate this embassy, when you bring in far right ult ultraorthodox, you're moving this embassy as part of a midterm election drive. sheldon adeleson wrote a check. this was diplomatic pornography designed to advance the republican midterm agenda.
>> and what do you make of the protests in gaza. you were there just about a month ago. is it fair to say that hamas is to blame as the government says? >> to blame all i know is you do have to ask hamas what are you doing. you're throwing people up against the israeli fence. you know what's going to. happen. to me it was a cover for hamas's utter failure. not just this year or last year, but well over a decade of producing some kind of decent governance in gaza. one of the things it should reflect on is is, yes, the turkish prime minister went off on this, but it's quite striking to me how little protests this tragic death of scores of palestinians in the arab world, even in the west bank let alone in europe. i think people are fed up with this kind of agenda. i think the world is fed up with
both sides. >> i have to answer this because, first of all, it's misleading to constantly blame hamas. if you ask the thousands, the tens of thousands of people who are there, they will tell you that they are not push button people. they do not get marching instructions from hamas. they do not get organizers from above. they are all grass roots people. men, women and children. men, women and children who are fed up with their captivity and fed up with the situation of utter oppression and total disregard for their lives. and this is nothing short of a massacre because all the time the gaza people and palestinians are seen as numbers, as obstructions, not as human beings. and israel is constantly treated with a pass and act with full
impunity. >> tom freedman, how does this thing move forward? you're hearing what hanan is saying. you tried to work for a two-state solution, write about it. how do -- what's your reaction to where we are? >> my reaction is do you want to make a point or do you want to make a difference? you want to make a point, we can make aunt awl kinds of points about how bad the israelis are. i can make points about how corrupt the leadership is these days and we can all win this debate. this conflict is going to go on for another generation. my own approach is i don't want to make a point. i want to make a difference. i want to bring my imagination to how we find some way for these two people to share this land. that's the only way out.
if palestinians can't feel at home and take their shoes off, palestinians will not be able to. >> going back to the clinton parameters. we're going to have this endless cycle of debate and killing. >> thanks very much. stay with me. i want to ask you specifically about america's strategy and i want you to expand about american domestic politics. how it comes to play in the middle east. we'll be back. and bill has a "no-weeds, not in my yard" policy. but with scotts turf builder weed & feed, bill has nothing to worry about. it kills weeds and greens grass, guaranteed. this is a scotts yard.
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and american domestic politics. tom is the foreign affairs columnist and author of "thank you for being late", an optimist guide to thriving in the age of acceleration. i want struck, tom, that the two preachers who opened and closed the opening of the u.s. embassy in jerusalem, this extraordinary moment were two evangelical preachers who said essentially that jews are damned and will burn in the the hell fires. one praised hitler. what does that tell you? >> it shows you, fareed, how off the israeli leadership is about america today. they have lost so many mainstream jews, conservative and reform jews. benjamin netanyahu's view is i can get away with anything because i have the evangelicals and the republican party in my pocket. and that's probably true.
but you know what he doesn't have? he's losing mainstream american jury and mainstream americans. benjamin netanyahu can speak in the u.s. congress. but could he speak on the campus of the university of wisconsin? could he speak at ucla? could he speak at nyu? he could if they borrowed the national guard. he's winning the debate in a very small circle, but he's really slow ri eroding the support of so many people who want the to support israel but are seeing israel that they can't support and they are emotionally disengaging. that's a long-term threat to israel. >> you were so passionate about this subject. your book is is so eloquent. how do you feel just logic analysis aside. you're a human being and you took your family to israel. what's your reaction?
>> my reaction has been what it's always been. i think understand and think about israel as an american or american jew or anybody for that matter. you have to hold three thoughts together in your head at the same time. israel has built an amazing country, amazing in it so many ways. science, technology, education, really absorbing all these immigrants. it's an amazing place, number one. number two, israel does bad stuff. it does bad stuff in the occupied territories. it does bad stuff sometimes. and number three israel lives in a crazy neighborhood. one of the craziest neighborhoods on the planet right now in terms of breakdown of authority. and so you got to hold those three thoughts in your head altogether at the same time. and unfortunately some people want to go say israel is great. it's amazing. some people want to say israel is awful. it's the reincarnation of this terrible state. it's all it ever does.
they live in a crazy neighborhood. you have to balance all three and you have to wind your way through that thicket of three different perspectives on israel and keep your eye on the prize and the only way to resolve the tension is with a two-state solution. >> tom freedman, a pleasure as always. next, charles and dianna, kate and will and now harry and meghan. are royal weddings a moneymaker? we'll have the answer when we come back. the sun is shining so why binge in here, when you can do it out there. with this clever little app called audible. you can listen to the stories you love while doing the things you love,
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place in an era of post war austerity and rations. wedding estimates under $10 million to over $40 million, most of it for security. that's probably a good bit more than you were planning to spend and it does raise the question. is it worth it? despite predictions of a tourism wind falls from forecasters, the past certainly tells a different story. the economy likely suffered temporarily from the wedding of william and kate in 2011. that month the economy experienced a 1.2% dip in service sector output, at least in part because the wedding was a bank holiday and everyone went on vacation. there was no influx of foreign tourists either. but even if royal weddings don't pay dividends on the whole, the monarchy does. here are the facts and dfigures. the maintenance by parliament
was $111 mm. the anti-republic estimated the total cost is much higher. $465 million. that number includes what could be charged for rents of properties and that expense of security. but the monarchy probably still turns a profit for the country. the official tourism promoter said in 2010 the royals bring in $675 million in tourism annually from overseas visitors. it's hard to know how you might calculate those numbers, but think of the brand value of the royals. one type of harry and meghan engagement mug sold out in 24 hours. the crown bestows $260 million worth of business endorsements, according to the company brand finance on everything from the tea company. and millions of tourists do go to the uk and visit the palaces,
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on may 13th, the famed harvard constitutional law scholar wrote an opinion piece in the "washington post." the article's title was trump must be. impeached. here's why. he spent much of the year doing a deep dive on itch peachment with one of his former students. as often happens with scholarly research, he came out the other end with a different opinion on the matter. what does he think now? larry tribe join mess. before we get to the conclusion, i want to start with the news of
the week and what's going on. robert mueller has said that the president will not be indicted even if there are grounds are indictable crimes. for an average person, explain this. if one of us does something that's criminal, we would get. indicted. why does the president not get that? >> i wouldn't give a lot of weight to what giuliani says. what we know is that the guidelines of the justice department treat the president as special, even though our most fundamental traditions say he's not above the law. i don't think the president is immune from indictment. if he were to suddenly start shooting his enemies, i assure you the guidelines wouldn't be followed. in some ways, some of what people fear he may have done is we as bad as that because it involves working with a hostile foreign power to win the office
of the presidency. but the tradition is youen don't indict a sitting president. the main remedy is is the framers provided the main remedy for renegade out of control. it's impeachment. >> this comes out of the constitutional convention. they were worry ied about they e creating this presidency, the only thing that existed before them was european monarchs. >> they were really doing something new here. when you create this new powerful position at the head of a new powerful federal government, you need an escape hatch in case you choose poorly or choose wisely but the person is corrupted or come to abuse his power. so impeachment really was part of the constitutional design. it was meant to calibrate checks and balances in what the framers foresaw as a worst case scenario. >> back to the question of why is is it that just ordinary criminal behavior would not
suffice or even unconstitutional behavior. you know a lot about the et mollments clause. you're involved in those cases. it does appear on the face of it there are a lot of foreign countries trying to please donald trump by throwing business his way. various condominium projects. it sounds like a gift and that would seem to run afoul of the clause of the constitution. >> it's certainly agreed the president is in sustained and ongoing violation of the et mollments clause. his violations get worse every day. at the very least, we learn every passing day of new ways he's violating it. he's been awfully creative. the question of whether the president should be impeached for violating the constitution or for run of the mill wrong doing was a question that the framers put a lot of thought into. their concern was that if congress could remove the president for what they thought of mall administration or one of
the run of the mill improper practices that the president would not be able to govern the country. they would lord over him and he would not never be able to act creatively and would fail. so the framers had this idea that you need some real wrong doing. high crimes and misdemeanors or bribery or treason are serious offenses because otherwise the impeachment power could get out of hand. >> what rises to the level of an impeachment offense? >> as long as it's a grave abuse of power that threatens to dissolve the kind of republic that we have, it would be an impeachable offense. it's not a technical concept. it doesn't have to violate the criminal code. >> explain why your central conclusion is why that we should proceed on the impeachment path very cautiously. you seem to be saying basically you don't think impeachment is such a great idea.
>> when i was writing about a year ago that we should start immediately investigatiing i impeachment, it was four days after comey had been fired and mueller was appointed. the moment mueller was appointed, it seemed to me that simply engaging in impeachment talk day and night was going to be counterproductive. that was the point at which it seemed to me. i have learned a lot since then. that was the point all the which i thought it's really important to take this vital power, this emergency power and not run it into the ground by making a nonstop impeachment campaign out of it. you can't fire that bullet more than once. if he were to be impeached whether there isn't a deep national bipartisan consensus, then acquitted by the senate, you can imagine what that would leave. it would be a wounded tiger. >> the book is informed by that political sensibility. it's a political process and
that if it didn't feel like there was some consensus around mueller's findings you would end up in a situation where the people who voted for donald trump felt that this was a judicial cue data. the people they despise, the media, all these educators, elite types conspired, found some way to get rid of the guy who they had elected. >> it's important that we not exacerbate the dysfunction and polarization in society that helped donald trump rise to power in the first place. if we were to use the impeachment power as a substitute for buyers remorse saying we thought this guy. was terrible, but he's even worse. if we were to use it against just badness rather than clear abuse of power, we would really use the impeachment power to undermine rather than save our
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investment. venture capitalist john door got in at the ground floor of the companies before they went public and invested millions on behalf of his company. and it's not just amazon and google. he's legendary for picking company after company that went on to unimaginable success. i wanted to talk to him about that, his new book "measure what matters" and about the serious questions silicon valley is facing today. i want to ask you about the swirling issues about technology these days. people look at facebook and google and they say, you guys are selling data that isn't yours. you're selling data that my browsing data, what apps i'm look iing at, what searches i d. and you shouldn't be able to do this. or at least you shouldn't be able to do it without my say us so. do the critics have a point? >> they do.
privacy and trust are essential to all the internet companies. but i think as we adopt privacy regulations, there are a number in place today to make sure regulations have the right balance. if they are too burdensome, it wouldn't be possible for entrepreneurs to innovate. if it they are too lax, this sacred trust could be violated. >> so you are perhaps the most famous venture capitalist in the world. how does one get started doing that? what did you do that took you down this path? >> i was born and raised an engineer in missouri. i wanted to work in computers. so i made my way to silicon valley and was very kwukly. i got to work at a tiny little chip company by the name of intel for a legendary ceo. who at the time they invented the microprocesser which kicked
off the computer revolution. >> did you realize. the mid-70s. it wasn't called silicon valley then. g you have the start you had this extraordinary technology boom. >> andy's partner said every two years will cut in half the costs of computer or double the performance. it's extraordinary. it's been going on for 50 years now. it's a remarkable force. >> how did you get from there to then venture capitalists. >> i was at intel very happy pursuing my career learning from andy and others. and i got a phone call from a friend wo said there's this perkins buyers firm that wants to hire a young associate to check out business plans and advise them. i interviewed for the job and
got it. so that's my story. >> so you have invested early or at the very earliest stages in google, amazon. when people hear that kind of thing, is it just luck or -- my principle rule for -- are you a lucky general? >> i'm a very lucky lieutenant. not a general. it's the entrepreneurs who are the amazing ones. and after the microchip in the pc, we had two more great tech tonic waves of innovation. they seem to happen every dozen years or so. >> the iphone came out, you set up a fund. you said the iphone is going to change everything. we need to send $100 million. >> most important platform in the world. no one in the time thought you could build a business selling applications for a dollar or two. >> what do you think you see that other people don't see?
>> i think because of my technical background and my love of people and markets. i get to see how these come together. most important, i get to see the world's most amazing entrepreneurs. . >> but everybody sees those. what's your special skill? because lots of people with technical training didn't invest in these companies in early and haven't been as consistently good as it as you. >> they don't always work. maybe i'm a risk taker, but i want to koom back to the entrepreneurs because it's hard to tell early on that jeff bezos is jeff bezos. or the 18th search engine are going to turn the whole industry upside down and bring all the information to everybody. >> what do you think you see? what's the sign, this is going to pull it off. >> first and foremost, their commitment to technical excellence. second is their willingness to
build a team around them. third is a strategic focus on a really large unserved market need. a fourth is a reasonable approach to how they are going to fund their business. you can raise too much money as well as too little. the fifth factor that i look for is thaturgency. because the new company doesn't have the resources of the incumbents. today's are more aggressive than ever before but they can move fast. so the speed with which one of these disruptive entrepreneurs will move is a crucial advance. >> the book is really centered around some things you learned from andy grove and they are called okrs. it sounds pretty simple. objectives and key results. why is this an important way to think about business? >> it's deceptively simple. the reason is not the initials of the system. kind of obscure, okrs. but the essence of it.
and the essence of it is we're going to take the goals of the team and make them transparent. that idea in itself is revolutionary. most business. s put them away. they will be transparent. they will cause us to focus. they will get our team aligned around the same set of goals. then we'll commit. we'll measure our progress. we'll track how we do. at the end of a period of time, we're going to set the goals aside. we don't use them for bonuses. we don't use them for promotions. instead we use them to get for a higher purpose, which is a collective commitment. since i first introduced these in 1999, i want to tell you the story. i showed these to sergei. he was 24 years old. and sergei enthusiastically said, yes, john, we'll try this. not quite. what he said is we don't have any other way to manage the
company so we'll give this a go. and i took that as an endorsement. but every quarter since, every googler has written down her objectives and key results. they have graded them. they have shared them with the whole organization. then they set them aside because they are not use d for bonuses r promotions. >> why is that part important? >> great question. it's because you want a culture, google wants a culture, the winners want a culture where it's okay to take risks. it's okay to fail. you want to set goals that are almost impossible to achieve. then if you achieve 70% of them, you're doing really well. >> you don't get penalized for trying something difficult. >> larry page is famous for moon shots says i would rather aim for mars and it we don't quite make it, we'll get to the moon than adopt a very conservative, safe approach to competing and creating value. >> john, pleasure to have you
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for our farmers and their families. ♪ a heads up for my question of the week you might want to grab a peace of paper and something to write on. i'm going to ask you to spell one of the words successfully spelled by a national spelling bee finalist. ready? how do you spell -- that's what you call an unusual pigmentation of the skin or feathers. the correct answer to the gps challenge question is -- >> xanthochroism.
>> that is correct. >> that was 2017 national spelling bee finalist, one of the regional spelling champions starring in a new documentary called "breaking the bee." the film which replaces my book of the week examines how the national spelling bee came to be dominated by a tiny minority of the united states. 20% of all winners have been indian-american children including 17 victors and co-victors in the last 18 years. >> we rival the yankees, dallas cowboys, celtics, lakers, we're in that. >> i was interviewed for the film and gave some of my thoughts on this unexpected manifestation of the american dream. >> the indians who do well in spelling bees in america are drawn from a very small group of
indians who were very adventurous who decided to take advantage of the relaxation of american immigration rules in 1965. >> go to breaking the bee to find out where you can catch the film near you and mark your calendar for this year's national spelling bee finals on may 31st. thanks to all of you for being a part of my program this week. i'll see you next week. i'm brian stelter. it's time for "reliable sources." a look at the story behind the story, how the media really works, how the news gets made. an exclusive with "the washington post" who will join me to discuss his brand new reporting. the headline here, the president trying to puni isish jeff bezos. and an anniversary that received a lot of news coverage. the one year mark for the robert mueller investigation. we'll look back to the