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with two arab princes and an israeli social media expert offered to help his father. and cramming for the summit. north korean study up on president trump, reading his art of the deal as well as a book about him before his meeting with kim jong-un. but the president may be getting cold feet about the summit. is he worried it could turn into an embarrassing failure? i'm wolf blitzer and you're in "the situation room". >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news. president trump meeting with the fbi director and top intelligence officials after demanding in a tweet that the justice department look into his claims that the fbi planted a spy in his 2016 campaign. that demand threatens the spiral potentially into a constitutional crisis. even as the president appeals to supporters to back him in a
petition. our correspondents are standing by with full coverage, but right to our chief white house correspondent jim acosta. the president is taking on his own justice department. >> reporter: he certainly is and the president just wrapped up a meeting with the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and chris wray. rod rosenstein called for an internal justice department investigation into the president's suspicion he was spied on during the 2016 campaign and coming out of the meeting, we should point out in the last several minutes, the white house issued a statement on what transpired in the meeting. very important, wolf. the white house said that the justice department has agreed to expand its probe in that the administration will be setting up -- and this is critical -- a classified briefing for congressional leaders to review highly classified information that they've been requested for several weeks now. wolf, depends on what kind of documents and materials they will see but this is a concession from the justice department to critics of the russia probe who seem to want the investigators under
investigation. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein arrived at the white house for what officials insist was a prescheduled meeting but it is clear what is on the president's mind. while he's not answering reporters questions, the president is complaining that he was spied on before the 2016 election. ranting about the presence of a confidential source working inside of the trump campaign. tweeting, i hereby demand the department of justice look into whether or not the fbi or doj infiltrated or surveils the trump campaign for political purposes and if any such demands or requests were made by people within the obama administration and while the confidential source did speak with advisers, u.s. officials told cnn the confidential source was not spaying on the campaign. >> i think that is -- that is actually very disturbing assault on the independence of the department of justice and i think when the president -- this president or any president tries to use the department of justice as kind of a private
investigation body, that is not good for the country. >> reporter: before the meeting at the white house, rod rosenstein relented announcing the justice department inspector general will investigate and saying in a statement, if anyone did surveil for inappropriate purposes we need to know about it and take appropriate action as a disappointment to democrats. >> i'm concerned with the comments of the deputy attorney general suggesting, well we'll look into find out whether there is any legitimate concern about a politically embedded spy. they know that is nonsense and i hate to see them say anything to give it credence. >> reporter: the president is hammering the over sight of robert mueller investigation for months. even attorney general jeff sessions was labelled a danger to americans over the weekend on fox news. >> the single most dangerous person to the agenda of president trump, the republican party and u-- and ultimately to
america is jeff sessions. >> reporter: and the president continues his attack on the obama administration taking jabs at john brennan tweeting comments from a commentator, john brennan is panicking. he's disgraced himself and disgraced the country. he's disgraced the entire intelligence community before he traveled to the cia to welcome the agency's new director gina haspel. >> most especially i want to thank you, the dedicated men and women of the central intelligence agency. it is a true honor to stand here today before the most elite intelligence professionals on the planet earth. nobody even close. >> reporter: but the president took time to give a shout out to devin nunes who was led the gop charge in congress to investigate the russia investigation. >> a very courageous man, it's courageous. congressman devin nunes.
thank you very much. appreciate it. >> reporter: and it sounds like devin nunes, the chairman of the house intelligence committee as well as other critics of the russia investigation, people like mark meadows of the house freedom caucus and they are going get what they want out of the announcement coming from the white house and in just the last several minutes, as a matter of fact, accord together white house statement, the chief of staff john kelly will be facilitating this meeting with the justice department and the deputy -- the director of national intelligence dan coates also in the meeting with the president and we should point out, a source familiar with the discussions on the russia investigation here at the white house says that the president's tweets about his confidential source we saw this morning, that they may be hyperbolic, yes, but the source added there are real concerns inside the white house as to what the confidential source was up to during the campaign and hearing the discussions inside of the white house and until those concerns are addressed and it sounds like they are trying to address them over the justice department, it is likely that the president's
rants will continue. so we may see as a result of all this, wolf, if they don't get what they want inside of the white house and among thei -- te critics of the investigation and the president will go back on social media and attacking the justice department over the handling of the probe. wolf. >> thank you very much. and this is happening -- as this is happening, the president's advisers may believe the best defense is a good offense, at least when it comes to the special counsel russia probe. let's go to our justice correspondent jessica schneider. rudy giuliani suggests robert mueller could be finish with the president fairly soon. >> that is right, wolf. rudy giuliani said the special counsel has given him indications that the part of the probe directly involving the president could be finished in about the next three months. but in the back and forth between mueller team and the president's lawyers, that possible end to that part of the investigation involving the president, well it comes with a caveat. >> reporter: the president's
lawyer said the key part of the special counsel investigation of mr. trump could be wrapped up within the next three months. rudy giuliani confirms to cnn robert mueller told him about a month ago that if the president agreed to an interview, the obstruction of justice part of the probe could be finished by september 1st. before the mid-term elections. you don't want another repeat of the 2016 election where you get contrary reports at the end and you don't know how it affected the election. but days earlier, giuliani resisted any suggestion that the president will sit down with the special counsel team. >> explain to me why they need an interview of the president if it isn't try to trap him into perjury and that is when you get somebody to lie about what you are telling the truth and the president could testify tomorrow if it was about the truth. the truth is, he had nothing to do with russia. i was on that campaign. he didn't talk to rauch -- with russians. >> reporter: but the special counsel isn't only focused on russia. accord together new york times, the mueller team has learned
about a meeting the president's son had with arab princes and an israeli social media specialist three months before the election and both offered assistance to the trump campaign. >> if the "times" sorry is true, we have a second or a third nation trying to lean in to this campaign and i don't understand what the president doesn't get about the law that said if you have a foreign nation interfere in an american election, that is illegal. >> reporter: the "times" reports investigators have questioned several witnesses all over the world about foreign help that may have been pledged or accepted and whether that assistance may have been coordinated with russia. the august 2016 meeting at trump tower was set up by erik prince, the private security contractor and former head of black water, the emissary george nader who is cooperating with mueller allegedly told donald trump jr. that the saudi and emirates princes were eager to help his
father and social media specialist zamal said his firm had a multi-million dollar proposal to help the campaign. zamal's lawyer denied he had any involvement in the campaign. the "times" said trump jr. responded approvingly but the president's son told the senate judiciary committee i didn't collude with any foreign government and didn't know anyone who did. and his lawyer issued a statement acknowledging the meeting happened, but said trump jr. did not take them up on the marketing strategy. he was not interested and that is the end of it. the democratic lawmakers aren't satisfied. >> and why are so many foreign powers of the opinion during the campaign and perhaps thereafter that the trump family is willing to play ball. >> and when it comes to the emissary george nader, he traveled to moscow at least twice during the presidential campaign as an emissary to the crown prince of abu dhabi, according to the "times" and after the election george nader worked to arrange a meeting in
the seyshelles and a meeting close to putin and is also a meeting scrutinized by federal investigators. and let's bring in our experts and laura jarrett you are the justice reporter, did the white house back down with the statement following the meeting today with the deputy attorney general or did they get what they wanted. >> we have to know way more about what this agreement entails. the devil is in the details. we knew the inspector general expanded the investigation to cover the situation. but the new part is where sarah sanders, the white house press secretary, said they're going to be reviewing highly classified and other information they have requested. and for the past two weeks, the fight has come down to the documents. devin nunes, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, wants those materials. and everyone knows the name of the source. he wants those materials. and it is going to be that which is the sticking point.
>> why do presidents want to maintain a distance from the department of justice. >> if you look at the tradition of how you investigate political corruption if you go down to a city council and in california or new york or pennsylvania, the department of justice does political corruption investigations all of the time. those investigations involve things like wiretaps, they also involve informants. that is a dime a dozen. you're going into political corruption where your giving a friend a contract, you will put an informant in the investigation and a mayor can't say here is what you can do and can't do and here is how you should be investigating whether you did something inappropriately an in this case you have a high end investigation but in essence the same thing, an investigation of political corruption and you involve wiretaps -- and fisa and we talked about that but the subject is the president and he's saying, you can't investigate me and when you do, i'm going to tell you you have to investigate yourself. that is really different. >> take us inside of the meeting
at the oval office and josh campbell used to be at the fbi and the president has christopher wray who he nominated to lead the fbi and rod rosenstein and the deputy attorney general overseeing the russia probe who he nominated for that position and dan coates is there and he nominated him as well. take us inside of the president's angry that is -- angry about the allegations about spying and stuff like that. what is going on? >> reporter: well to be a fly on the wall in that room had to be incredible. look at the faces there and we see the tape of the officials leaving the white house. smiles on their faces. slapping each other's back. i don't know if we know what that means. i've been talking with former officials still on the job there in the fbi and there are two camps with respect to the actions of the deputy attorney general over the last 24 hours. there are those who look at his actions in coming and putting forth a statement saying that we're going to look into this and i'll refer to the i.g. and those look at that as capitulation and trying to keep liz job.
there is a second camp that looks at that action as strategic defiance and that is someone who is trying to box the president in and say, okay, we'll look into this and pass this on to the i.g. and there are few options for the president when rod rosenstein is preemptsed what might come next but regardless of the motive, the out come is the same and that is giving robert mueller more time to do his job. >> and laura, after the meeting the white house put out the statement saying the inspector general over at the department of justice, michael horowitz will expand the investigation to look into the allegations of improve involvement in the presidential campaign. there was some of the president's supporters who didn't want the inspector general to do there and they want another special counsel to be named. >> and we remember this last time around. we've heard this song before on issues like iranian one and the clinton e-mail investigation and we've heard members of the house republican -- particularly the freedom caucus has really been
pushing this and in the president's ear troying to say, the i.g., that is not where the action is, we need someone with subpoena power. but this is exactly what the -- what the inspector general is tasked with doing. this is what he does all of the time. he's already looking into so-called fisa abuse and he's looking at exactly how the surveillance warrants were obtained and looking at the fbi relationship with christopher steele and looking into whether there was any political interference so it makes that an incremental step and people should have said rod rosenstein should have gone further, it is a step to kick it into -- >> and he was brilliant this evening -- >> josh -- >> the issue of timing. let's play this game. because it is such an inside washington game. assume the inspector general takes 60, 90, 120 days which will wo be quick for an inspector general investigation. and assume robert mueller is reaching the end of his investigation and he doesn't want to go into the mid-term
elections and he comes out with results and say in june, july and august and he's going to be out before the inspector general determination of what happened with this informant. if mueller comes out with fie--h extra findings related to the white house, all of this is irrelevant. this move by rod rosenstein might be tactically suspicious but strategically brilliant. >> and i could -- i could i add something more and i agree what phil said about the nice comments about me. but for those of us covering this white house and this administration, let's not kid ourselves. whatever this investigation unearthed, anything other than a complete vindication of the white house, they will not accept the results. so we could have a new special counsel and a new -- a new inspector general investigation and unless that entity or that body comes out and said there was no wrongdoing, we're prepared to see additional smearing on the part of those in charge. >> let's talk, phil, about the use of the confidential source
to try to find out more information for the fbi. the confidential source -- according to "the new york times" and "the washington post" established contact with three trump campaign advisers, george papadapoulos, carter page and sam clove, he is being a former deputy campaign manager and to try to find out more about any contacts with russia and what they do about russian meddling in the u.s. how unusual is this and what needs to be done for a confidential source on a sensitive issue like this, a presidential campaign to be tapped to go find more information for the fbi? >> well let's take -- let's look at what we've seen in the investigation from the outside. we have information that suggests a campaign official, george papadapoulos, was talking to -- if i remember correctly, an australian diplomat about wikileaks acquiring information about democrats before wikileaks published it. fbi get this is and interviews the australian diplomat and said there is something curious going on here. forget about whether it is the president or the city council,
if you are in the bureau in the department of justice, you have to say swef -- and say we have to about darn careful and you get wiretaps and that fisa or you get informants. when i looked at this, if it weren't the president, this is a dime a dozen. how do you find out what happened in the allegations about impropriety in the campaign? you get an informant. so again, if the president weren't involved, you would say that is what we do -- >> who has to approve that operation for the confidential source and an american academic who is worked -- apparently with the cia and the fbi for a long time, who has to authorize that individual to go after these three campaign advisers and seek information? >> informants are a dime a dozen. but if you are talking about informants in a presidential campaign, i don't know. josh might know -- >> let's ask josh -- how high does that have -- >> the fbi director. >> very high. >> it would be very high. >> how high? >> and i think you keyed on the
main point. to the top -- to the fbi -- >> so james comey would have to approve it? >> and the reason that -- that is the case is because a political campaign falls under the category of investigation that is called a sensitive investigative matter so if you are looking at a politician or a member of the press or clergy, that is a different category and requires very high level scrutiny. but i think we're missing the point. this is what i want people to really focus on as we look at the debate. whether or not this informant was passively collecting on the campaign or whether he was quote, unquote, implanted. to me it does not matter. because of the oversight that goes into the operation of human informants, if that person was assisting a lawfully predicated investigation it doesn't matter whether they were passive or active. those types of operations are reviewed at the highest level and they would have signed off on and the last point being that those who began the operation under the obama administration were able to convince those who are now appointed by donald trump to defend those actions so there is a level of independence
and righteousness in this activity. >> stick around. there is more -- with that said, more developing. more on the breaking news as the justice department now giving into the president's demands to investigate their conduct in the campaign and will gop have access to classified information about a confidential fbi source. plus the president's lawyer rudy giuliani said the special counsel's probe of the president could be wrapped up in a few months on one condition -- is giuliani just floating a trial balloon? just another day on the farm. or is it? this farmer's morning starts in outer space. where satellites feed infrared images of his land into a system built with ai. he uses watson to analyze his data with millions of weather forecasts from the cloud, and iot sensors down here, for precise monitoring of irrigation.
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our breaking news after president trump's meeting with top justice and intelligence officials this afternoon, the white house put out a statement saying some members of congress will be allowed to see highly classified information relating to the president's claim that the government spied on his presidential campaign in -- 2016 and let's bring in our experts. what do you make of the president's efforts to turn this mueller investigation now over into a political petition, the 2020 re-election campaign sent out a mass e-mail saying signed seine this petition. >> so the political and legal avenues have moved relatively in tandem, impeachment versus what mueller finds and i don't think it is surprising donald trump is headed down this road, the pollicization of the investigation for quite sometime over the weekend and 13 angry democrats referring to the mueller team, he's gone after bob mueller and james comey and the fbi.
so i don't think we should be surprised by it. i think it is worth remembering however that that exists in the political sphere. could is have a role if congress does anything related to donald trump? maybe. it doesn't affect mueller in any way, shape or form. donald trump can and has said a lot of things, but mueller continues to sort of move down the road on his own timeline. what donald trump says doesn't affect that legal avenue. >> and what rudy giuliani said, i don't think that affects legal avenue. >> to the extent it affects it and laura could speak to this better, it makes it worse for them. i don't know that donald trump can make his legal -- this isn't going to change the mueller outcome. he says and does things that may complicate his legal prosect partly sunn -- prospects but he won't make it more political dish -- >> could be influenced, robert mueller and his team, to accelerator slow down the
investigation. >> not through a petition saying can you please agree with me and validate my paranoia and my a -- annoyance with the mueller investigation. there are only so many times you could shoot yourself in the foot before you could walk and that is not the instance where the donald trump in the mueller probe and mueller was so be completely indifferent to what is happening in the political realm when is why the issue where people are so annoyed that the president of the united states is trying to int -- to inject into the department of justice because he don't want people to have a political aspiration or motivation which is odd that he would ask for a petition and at the same time accuse the doj of having a politically motivated investigation and now insert politics into the investigation. >> rebecca burn have we seen this before from the trump campaign? >> of course. on the one year anniversary of the mueller investigation, his campaign used that as a tool to
raise money. they asked for donations citing the anniversary and the president has turned this into a political issue. he's a political animal and he sees a political upside in motivating supporters into thinking this is a witch hunt against him stanley cup by the political enemies but also something we've seen from democrats and it is important to remember that. there is a democratic congressional campaign committee e-mail fundraising blast in the name of nancy pelosi, citing concerns that the president could fire robert mueller but using that to raise money for their re-election campaign so both sides are playing this game. >> and bianna, some of the president's supporters are going out and saying, unless there is a republican majority in the house, the democrats will try to impeach the president and that is how they're motivating voters looking ahead to november. what do you think? >> it is an interesting strategy. and we live in a 24/7 news cycle and a lot could happen between
now and november and republicans and democrats are not focusing on what intelligence had warned and that is that russia is planning to impact and interfere in our elections once again. so instead of republicans honing in on that, mind you the president has yet to issue an order to his intelligence kmeef to do something about it -- to investigate it. it is interesting that they are focusing on potential impeachment. having said that, there are some democrats, including nancy pelosi who at least publicly have said that is not the line that -- that this party -- the democratic party should be running on going into the midterms. >> stick around. everybody stick around. there is more we need to discuss. we have to take a quick break. but i'm going to ask our panel about the newly revealed meeting between donald trump jr. and emissaries of the middle eastern countries that allegedly offered to help the trump campaign. and also ahead, new pictures coming into cnn, live pictures you're seeing right now as hawaii eruption volcano is
deal with the allegations of improper allegations -- improper spying on the trump campaign. much more on that coming up. but speaking of meetings, there is another meeting we're learning more information on and laura, let me talk about this meeting with three months or so before the election in 2016, a meeting that donald trump jr. and others from the trump campaign had with an emissary representing the united arab emirates and erik prince who is also somehow related to the campaign. how does this fit into robert mueller's investigation of the russia probe? >> well remember, the scope of the probe has to do with whether or not a foreign nation had tried to interfere with the 2016 presidential election. that is the overarching theme. there are components of that mandate that say the russia nation is the one to focus on, but there is also a third part that said about jurisdictional issues and cites a statute and talks about if there is anything
uncovered in the course of the investigation and you should find something you need to expand the scope of that, you could go to the attorney general and in this case rod rosenstein who is now serving in that capacity and ask if it could be expanded. and i suspect this is what they came across during the course of the investigation and about the russia interfeesrence and expand that and said this is following with the overall arching purpose which is to say, was there any coordination between a foreign nation, which is illegal, and a u.s. citizen about this very issue. >> the president obviously very angry about this -- this investigation into nothing to do with russia but the uae and the saudi and the israeli social media expert the president tweeted, things are getting ridiculous. the failing and cooked but not as cooked as hillary clinton new york times has done a long and boring story indicating that the world's most expensive witch hunt has found nothing on russia and me so now they are looking at the rest of the world.
>> fascinating parent th-- parenthetical discussion and this is based on an ongoing investigation -- "the new york times" piece and -- the broader look at the genesis of the -- of the investigation into russian meddling both say there is no public evident yet of collusion. donald trump sees -- no evidence of collusion and he brackets that off and the investigation is ongoing. even rudy giuliani, we're not sure whether this is -- 100% accurate or not, is saying september 1 for the obstruction piece of the investigation. that is when that will -- the point is bob mueller has not said we're ten days away or we've done all of the fact finding and the interviews we want to do. you could say there is no public evidence yet of these things, you cannot draw conclusions or you don't decide who wins a
basketball game in the middle of the second quarter or the third quarter or the fourth quarter. we're not sure where we are there. but we're certainly not at the end of the game yet. he continues to try to do that whether it is to feed his base, whether it is to try to put pressure on bob mueller, but these are things that come out in the course of an investigation and an ongoing investigation. >> and this lately revelation involving his son donald trump jr. does present an additional headache for the president. >> absolutely. so the president is trying to suggest in that tweet, wolf, for example that this is -- that the investigation is moving on because mueller found nothing there. and so he's moving on to the next thing. when in fact, this is evidence that the investigation is getting much bigger potentially. much messier and that should by a problem for the president and that should be, as you said, a headache for the president potentially because it is not necessarily just about russia any more. it is much bigger than that. >> go ahead, bianna. >> it also shows a pattern. and initially when you kept hearing only about russia you even had members of the
administration in those -- and those in the trump organization say, why do you think we would just be focused on russia? what is this russia obsession? and now you see a pattern that it may not have just been russia and now it is only russians that have been indicted and there have been indictments in the trump camp in relation to any -- any meetings or relations with the russians. but if you look at what is happened now, the -- over the few months, the course of the few months, you see that no one apparently had told don jr. that that first russian meeting in june was a no-no. that he shouldn't take meetings like that again. this happened two months later, and clearly they seem to be open to meeting with anybody that could help them along the campaign. so while the president may have found this article to be boring and long, this is a creative way to interpret it because nowhere did it say all of the russian allegations are not true. >> and just very briefly, it is important to remember this idea that nothing has been found.
even though we aren't at the end of the investigation, that is not true. bianna mentioned this, we are talking about five people in the trump orbit who have pled guilty, including his two -- lying to the fbi and including his former national security adviser mike flynn and rick gates. the idea this is a nothing burger and a white goose chase, this is not a democratic creation, we have people who work for donald trump who have pled guilty -- in senior roles of lying to the fbi and the investigation is not done. maybe that is it. but even if that is it, you can't dismiss this as nothing. >> well they are trying as a -- a strategy here, i think don jr. and company saying all is well that ends well and nothing became of it so let's be dismissive of it and the fact that the arab princes didn't meet or have a completion or if nothing came out of it in terms of salacious information or dirt on hillary clinton with -- they're under the impression that somehow if it didn't go as planned there is no criminal
liability and every single time they have composed themself to have this theme that bianna is talking about or exposed themselves to endefer to solicit a foreign government to try to influence the campaign, they open up to additional looel scrutiny and that is why the investigation in part continues to be prolonged and elongated because of every single action and every single contradiction and every single meeting we find out about, it is more and more vital to say, well perhaps the scope should include another countries and it does. and lie about it -- that is another pattern here. nobody has been forthcoming about meeting with russians. if nothing happened, why lie about it? appears that erik prince has put himself in an uncomfortable situation where he may have said one thing in a testimony before congress and accord together new york times article, that may not have been true. you don't have to be -- a lawyer to realize that when somebody is not forthcoming on multiple occasions, there is a reason to
keep digging at the story. >> you would think -- rebecca and i covered these presidential campaigns, that before a senior person in a campaign meets with a foreign official or somebody representing a foreign government, that person would go to the campaign council, the lawyer, and say, you know what, is this appropriate, is this legal and any problems? i suspect they didn't do it, meeting with the russians at trump tower in june or meeting with the emissary for the uae and the saudis in august. >> right. so we know this was an unconventional campaign to put it gently. sort of an amateur-ish and disorganized campaign to put it more harshly and so it is absolutely believable that something like this wouldn't have gone through the normal processes. at the same time, you would imagine that mueller is asking the question, why didn't this go through the normal processes, was there an agenda here perhaps on the behalf of some people working for the campaign or just
sloppy. >> you have to check with the lawyers and make sure there is nothing illegal and as we know, any presidential campaign can't accept any contribution in kind or cash from foreign governments. that is illegal. guys, stick around. there is more news that we're following. including some breaking news right now, we're getting really incredible pictures from hawaii. where an erupting volcano is spewing fountains of red hot lava and while the pictures are beautiful, the volcano is spewing very dangerous gases in the swath of destruction is spreading. stephanie elum is not too far away. so set the scene for us, stephanie, what is the latest? >> reporter: wolf, i could tell you, we were out here yesterday and we're look at this lava fountain and it is much larger today. take a closer look at this here. you could see it over the cane grasses in this part of pahoa, hawaii and that deep orange looks tinted it is so deeply orange and thrust into the sky
and then turns darker before falling back down and looks like it is in slow motion and the -- behind that, you see the massive cloud of volcanic gases also emitting from the earth. that is what is really concerning to officials here because while the lava is deadly and it is flowing, down to the ocean and having crossed over an evacuation route, 137, that runs along the pacific, the gases could hang over the area if -- in fact if the trade winds slow down, they could be deadly and cause irritation and they could burn your eyes and make you cough and at the same time, where this volcanic movement, this lava is flowing down into the ocean, you have this mix of hydrochloric acid now coming up out of the water from where the lava is hitting the ocean and also small particles of glass, which are very -- are debt -- detrimental to your eyes and the coast guard set up a perimeter around the water to make sure
that people -- looky-loos don't get to close and in the distance there is also another fissure that is off to my right here and it -- every now and then it lets off almost a cannon-like explosion of volcanic gas coming up out of the earth. you feel it in your chest and it is strong. i watched it. it is throwing rock up into the sky. several hundred feet. so that is why they are asking people to be careful. there was one man hit by a lava bomb over the weekend. we understand it shattered his leg and they want people to be very vigilant because it is stunning. those are beautiful images on some extent but for the people who live in this smaller contained area of hawaii, of the big island, it is not just a lava, it is the air quality and it is also the threat of being thrust out of the earth with these lava bombs. >> we'll stay on top of these amazing pictures. stephanie, be careful over there. we'll get back to you. thank you very much. coming up, new details about preparations for the high stakes
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kim jong-un. still we're seeing signs the president is concerned with the high stakes and the political risks of next month's scheduled meeting. let's bring in brian todd, what are you hearing? >> reporter: we're seeing reports that president trump has grown anxious over the summit. pressing his aides on whether he should go to singapore at all. the president has himself been thrown off his game by recent statements from kim jong-un's routine. >> thank you. >> reporter: president trump tonight seems increasingly jittery with a possible summit with kim jong-un. the president tweeting today, china must continue to be strong and tight on the border of north korea until a deal is made. analysts say that's a reference to recent reports that china may be letting up on sanctions against kim's regime and allowing more north korean goods to be smuggled into china. >> why was that significant? because president trump know gs that if kim jong-un believes the
chinese are going to bail him out economically, kim is under much less pressure to strike a deal quickly. >> reporter: another sign of presummit jitters the "new york times" reports that president trump has has become more concerned that a meeting with kim could turn into a political embarrassment. the times reports he was asking if he should go ahead with the statement and was thrown off by a statement that kim made last week. >> he was quite surprised and quite angry, we were told, to read this statement from north korea saying we will never trade away our nuclear capability for some promise with trade with the west. >> reporter: if the president does go to singapore, he'll be greeting a young dictator well briefed on him. the north koreans are studying trump, analysts say similar to
the way the cia has learned deal. >> they read the book "the art of the deal" this year they were reading "fire and fury". >> i think that is going to give kim jong-un incites into trump's approach, how he negotiates, what his tactics are. i think this is going to make for almost grand pamaster chess style discussion. >> reporter: grand master chess between two survivors whom neither feels they can afford to lose face. >> donald trump has survived in the shark pit of new york financial real estate dealings. kim jong-un has survived the acid test of north korean politics. where you win or you die,
literally. >> reporter: kim jong-un has also likely gotten briefed on the summit by chinese president xi jinping. president trump has said he thinks kim jong-un's change in tone on the summit, might have been inkplufluenced by xi. the chinese saying they're pleased with the die rogue. >> apparently the president has become so upset with this, he has called the south korean president over the weekend? >> reporter: that's right. we know he spoke with moon jae-in saturday night. he asked why that statement from last week contradicted assault assurances that moon received from kim jong-un about making a possible deal. it seemed to be a sign of discomfort for president trump because he's meeting with moon jae-in tomorrow at the white house. with that call on saturday, the president seemingly didn't feel
he could wait for those meetings to address all of his concerns. >> thank you, brian todd. coming up after the president meets with the top justice and intelligence community officials, the white house looks into its claim that a confidential source spied on the president's campaign. will the supporters get their hands on highly classified documents? can assist with exactly what your business needs to grow. get your coupon for 20% off services, technology and more at office depot and officedepot.com. technology and more looking for a hotel that fits... whoooo. ...your budget? tripadvisor now searches over... ...200 sites to find you the... ...hotel you want at the lowest price. grazi, gino! find a price that fits. tripadvisor.
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