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good morning, everyone. i'm john berman. >> i'm poppy harlow. the breaking news. fired fbi director james comey responds to the president's claims that a spy was planted in his campaign. >> this is what the former director writes. facts matter. the fbi's use of confidential human sources, pairen theticily,
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attacks on the fbi and lying about its work will do lasting damage to our country. how will republicans explain this to their grandchildren? our kaitlan collins live from the white house and this follows this stream of attacks from the president this morning including alleging some grand, criminal government conspiracy against him, then-candidate donald trump. >> reporter: that's right, john. the president once again repeating these unverified claims that the fbi spied on his presidential campaign tweeting about it several times saying that things have turned around on the criminal deep state, that is the president of the united states or the department of justice and saying they go after phony collusion with russia, a made-up scam and end up getting caught in a major spy scandal. then he says spygate which he has dubbed this could be one of the biggest political scandals in history. so what we have seen that is different this morning, john and poppy, from what the president has been saying over the past few days is he's moving on from
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saying it was a possibility that his campaign was spied on from the fbi to stating it as a fact and something that multiple officials have told cnn that the campaign wasn't spied on by the fbi and even the deputy press secretary was just doing an interview on television and he wouldn't go as far as the president did to say that it is a fact that the campaign was spied on. instead he used language like if this happened, if this is true, potential spying, he wouldn't go as far as the president did to state that this actually happened and what's at the center of all of this is the intelligence source who was helping the fbi into their investigation into the election interference and someone who spoke with several campaign advisers and someone who was at the center of the controversy between the department of justice and conservative congressional leaders who want to know more information and who want to see this classified information and now we do know that the white house chief of staff, john kelly has set up this meeting between top law enforcement officials and two conservative lawmakers, trey
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gowdy and devin nunes tomorrow. they'll get a chance to be briefed related to the russia investigation and that is also the subject of a lot of criticism because no democrat decs were invited to that meeting. the white house is defending that decision by saying that no democrats expressed interest in coming and he did believe if a meeting took place he believed it should be bipartisan. >> something tells me adam schiff would like to go to that meeting and he's been up in arms saying it can't just be republicans. thank you. "the new york times" is reporting what could be very bad news for the president's long-time lawyer michael cohen. his long time business partner is cooperating with prosecutors as part of a plea deal. brynn gingras has this. >> he calls michael cohen a dear friend and his client and gene,
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pled guilty to tax fraud yesterday. he's facing jail time here for failing to pay $5 million in mta surcharges to new york state for the taxi empire he runs. in exchange for his guilty plea, he will be placed on probation, has to pay the money back and according to "the new york times" will help state and federal authorities with their cases. friedman managed 800 medallions in new york city and that is what gives taxis value, and he managed a fleet for michael cohen and they're business partners and it would appear, investigators hope friedman have insight into cohen's business practices which of course, is the basis of the doj's current investigation. friedman's guilty plea also comes just days after news broke that jeffrey yohi, the former son-in-law of paul manafort had reached an agreement himself. of course, now the big question has been, still is if cohen is
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charged by new york's southern district, will he provide useful information on the president to the special counsel's investigation? michael cohen within the last hour seems to be distancing himself from friedman, from this news of a plea deal. this morning he tweeted this. i am one of thousands of medallion owners who entrust management companies to operate medallion according to the rules of the new york taxi and limousine commission. jim friedman and i are not partners and have never been partners in this business or any other. >> we'll see how investigators view the relationship which might be the crucial question. brynn gingras, thanks so much. >> joining us, former u.s. attorney harry lipman and cnn political analyst mark preston. harry, i want to start with the news of the day which is the president of the united states again alleging this grand criminal conspiracy. he's not just giving it a funny nickname, spy gate, which they
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will recognize from the past. he's suggesting that there were criminals in the government trying to undermine his campaign and that's an extraordinary charge, harry. >> stunning and it's not just some. he's basically called the fbi and doj a criminal enterprise. on this spy claim, it fails for two really fundamental reasons. the first is that professor helper is not an fbi agent who has somehow been embedded. he's a confidential informant that they've gone to over the years and no different -- no different, john, than if there's a bank robbery and a cop goes to the people on the street who he's used to working with, what do you know? what's going on? >> second, of course, there is no evidence whatsoever of any kind of political motivation here on the contrary. the federal bureau of investigation had evidence of a federal crime that had come to us from australia and proved to
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be correct that makes facts matter as director comey said, but so do reasons. if you were undertaking it to harass for political reasons, fine, but here all the evidence shows they were doing it to, as part of their routine task of investigating crimes. >> mark, the thing is the president knows that he can do this while bob mueller cannot say anything and is silently operating this and leading this investigation and while at least senate democrats on the senate side because they're not wrapped up with this intel investigation also can't say anything so they can go on television like mark warner, for example, and they can say but, but, but, but they can't put evidence out there. >> and they're walking a very, very fine line rid right there. look, what's been the most interesting thing about the investigation is the lack of the on the record comment from the
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mueller investigation or pushing back against the president every time he comes out saying something negative or criticizes it, knowing full well that if he were to get fired as the president has threatened or has at least talked about in the past, that in the end, congress would have to step in. we would have a constitutional crisis. we've just seen the president just in the last few minutes now tweet again, just using two words calling it a witch hunt and using the whole idea of a psychological strategy, just saying it enough times and people are going to believe it. >> let's remind people what this is all about. we can take mike pompeo who is appearing in a congressional hearing and he was a cia director until a few weeks ago and he's seen evidence in terms of election meddling and this is what he had to say about the upcoming election. listen to the secretary of state.
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we don't have the sound bite. secretary mike pompeo says he fully expects russia to meddle in the 2018 election which should be chilling to everyone involved in this. harry, while we have you and your lawyerly expertise, rudy giuliani, the president's personal attorney apparently now trying to negotiate down the terms of the president may be speaking to robert miler. just questions having to do from the time before he was president which would mean no questions about possible obstruction. is that a deal you think mueller would be likely to take? >> no way. just those questions, maybe two hours, maybe the president can get three lifelines. mueller, for mueller, the absolute essential would have to be some testimony under oath about the matters that he is actually investigating and that's what trump wants to avoid and that all points in the direction of a court battle where i think the advantage lies with mueller, but it's very tricky on both legal and political grounds.
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it probably takes the investigation into the midterm elections and that makes for complicated calculations by both parties. >> mark? >> listen, we're in crazy times right now. the bottom line is we don't know what president trump is going to do right now let alone two hours from now. the one stabilizing factor and i really do think we should focus this has been the robert mueller investigation and how he has kept that very much on line and we should look to the united states senate. as much as we are criticizing congress for their efforts and certainly devin nunes and those republicans does have a responsibility for congressional oversight, and are they doing congressional oversight for the good of their country or congressional oversight for the good of trying to end an investigation and that is the big question on the table and on the senate side at least we've seen working between the republicans and democrats. >> mark preston and harry lipman, thank you both. we appreciate it. >> meantime, we've been
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monitoring all morning and mike pompeo giving his congressional testimony as the president is saying it is less and less likely that he will meet with north korea's leader kim jong-un, what is pompeo saying about that? ahead. >> plus historic results from the primaries overnight. the first african-american woman ever nominated by a major party to be a gubernatorial nominee. we will discuss. (vo) i was born during
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taken toward the complete, verifiable and irreversible denuclearization of the korean peninsula. >> a day after the president warned of a sorry substantial chance in his words that his summit with kim jong-un will not take place on june 12th, at least. that's the secretary of state telling congress that preparations are still under way and that the u.s. demands are clear. >> mike pompeo is appearing as we speak before the house foreign affairs committee about all of this. elise is in washington watching all of this. >> reporter: he's facing questions about north korea, iran and i will also say, guys, don't forget, secretary pompeo as a congressman was one of the toughest critics of hillary clinton after the benghazi affair. he was on the select committee and he's rate now facing a lot of tough questions about embassy security, but certainly north korea, the most topic of most interest to lawmakers and the secretary had some very interesting things to say about
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his meeting with kim jong-un. take a listen. >> our demands have been unambiguous. when i spoke with him, i could not have been clearer about the scope and all of the elements that would be necessary in order for america to understand that there had been real denuclearization. >> and he said that kim jong-un understood that, but that in return he was looking for a lot of economic help not just from the united states, but other countries, for an investment and knowledge to improve the north korean flailing economy, but he was looking for security assurances and a peace treaty, and this, i think is what president trump was trying to nod at yesterday when high said he would guarantee kim jong-un's safety. he was talking about those security assurances that kim jong-un was looking for. >> all right, elise labott for us. elise, thank you very much. joining us now, cnn national
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security analyst, let's talk about the now as we're watching mike pompeo facing these questions and bipartisan tough questions because both parties want to know what's going on with north korea and the secretary of state saying hey, we're moving forward, we continue to be negotiating hear and give us a sense of what's happening behind the scenes here. >> he talked about the kinds of things that he spoke about with kim jong-un and that sounds like a negotiation to me. we laid out our opening salvo, complete and verifiable denuclearization. kim laid out his demands of peace treaty and security guarantees and economic concessions and that's what negotiation is, and the back and forth. the problem is that we have the somewhat arbitrary june 12th deadline coming up and so the clock is ticking and so my hope would have been that we would have given ourselves the space to let negotiators like mike pompeo and others do the work. >> here's the problem, is the president making mike pompeo's
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job on this very difficult. less than 24 hours ago the president said essentially that it would be maybe okay if complete denuclearization wasn't agreed to at the jump, right? and then mike pompeo says in this testimony the u.s. has made, quote, zero concessions to north korea to date and we don't intend to do so. >> consistency is our friend here. it would have been highly more preferable for mike pompeo and the president and others to be reading from the same sheet of music on what preconditions are and that's hindering our ability to convince kim of exactly what he has to do to get to june 12th and to get concessions he's asking for. >> complete, instant, denuclearization was never going to work. kim would never promise it at least not promise it and mean it going in. setting it as a bar going back that may have been the real problem and not the comments from the president, is that correct? >> we are in a better position
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in the short term today than we were on march 8th or whatever it was when we agreed to the meeting. we have at least a freeze. missiles aren't flying and nuclear tests aren't happening and that's a good thing. the president backed himself into a corner when he said publicly instead of saying it privately, this is what we need to get to a meeting. >> so going forward and looking at this, you have this punggye-ri nuclear test site that they're en route to right now being destroyed in front of a bunch of western journalists by the kim regime and officials tell us that's a pr stunt and it is really insignificant. do you agree in. >> i do. it is not a concession. he released the hostages and that was a step. this nuclear site is being dismantled supposedly in front of journalists and not weapons inspectors and this isn't kim giving us anything. one thing he could do at this june 12th meeting if he goes
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forward is agree to allow weapons inspectors to come in and at the least inventory what north korea has and what sites they have and what the state of the program is. >> if you compressed it all by what the president meant that he will keep kim jong-un safe. >> in the press briefing yesterday, but i think we're all hoping that there's not some sort of carte blanche to kim jong-un if he agrees to denuclearize to do whatever he wants with chemical weapons, biological weapons or anything else. >> thanks so much. >> republican house intel members set to meet with the heads of the doj and the fbi and intelligence officials tomorrow in the closed-door briefing. they want to see those documents about a confidential source who got information in the russia probe on the trump campaign. guess who is not going to be in that meeting? any democrats. they want to know why next.
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happen, what say you? >> representative schiff is exactly correct. at the end of the day this is about the fundamental integrity of our democracy, the rule of law and making sure that the white house does not unreasonably intervene in the affairs of an ongoing investigation which is trying to determine whether there was a conspiracy between the trump campaign and russia's interference in our election which we all know took place in 2016. and so it is absolutely and entirely inappropriate for this to proceed without any democratic president and all it will do is continue to enhance the cloud of illegitimacy that right now is hanging over 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> you say this is all about integrity. do you think devin nunes and trey gowdy are looking at that stuff? >> trey gowdy is a man of integrity. and devin nunes continues to
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embarrass himself as the so-called chairman of the intelligence committee and despite the personalities of the two individuals, the fact that they are both democrats, partisan individuals as opposed to an inclusive process where you have democrats is problematic, but again, this is all just another big type of distraction connected to the trump show. we've got to make sure that we uphold the rule of law, but democrats here on capitol hill are going to continue to focus on better jobs, better wages and better future and working on good, economic growth for the american people, as well. >> look, that worked for some democrats overnight in the primaries and let's talk about the state of georgia. you've got the democrat, stacy abrams there and the gubernatorial candidate being the first african-american woman from a major party in any state. the new york times had an interesting take by how she ran. did she signal she's pleading with rural whites to return to a
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democratic party that they have largely abandoned. she was able to energize a young, much more diverse group of voters and bring them to the party and bring them to the voter booth. is it a smart strategy to the party. >> nationally, in terms of the house democratic effort to take back the majority here in the house of representatives. we have to run geographically, regionally and in terms of the socioeconomic makeup of those districts, what does unify people in terms of the house effort is the effort of good-paying ons and strong economic growth and i think you will see that continue. stacey is a tremendous candidate, brilliant person and ran a wonderful campaign and actually did well not just in traditionally african-american parts of georgia, but also ran competitively in the excerpts of
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atlanta, one in certain areas and did pretty well in many of the rural parts of the state, as well when she wasn't expected to be as competitive. >> congressman, if i can ask you about the issue, you said issues that can bring us all together, and one issue that brought you all together on capitol hill is prison reform. you co-sponsored the first act which passed overwhelmingly the house yesterday. explain to me why this effort at bipartisanship works where nothing else has? >> we have tremendous leadership on both sides of the aisle. congressman doug collins, a conservative republican from rural georgia and a chair of congressional caucus from california and many others, all of us are behind the issue that we have an over criminalization problem in america. we incarcerate more people in this country than in any other nation in the world and when the failed war on drugs began in the
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early 1970s, there were less than 350,000 people incarcerated in america. today there are more than 2.2 million. that's a stain on our democracy and increasingly that has been recognized by the people on the left and on the right by conservatives and progressives and by democrats and republicans and we were able to come together yesterday and take a meaningful first step toward improving the lives of incarcerated men and women who are in the federal system. >> you tweeted that this began in your words dismantling the prison industrial complex. what it doesn't do in any way is address sentencing reform and there are your counterparts in congress, senator chuck grassley, republican chair of the judiciary committee says no way this gets through the senate without addressing sentencing reform, john lewis, cory booker among others who signed a letter saying this does not go far enough and did not get the support, and the aclu echoed
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their sentiment. do they have a point? >> approximately 70% of house ' democrats agreed with the position that it was an important step forward in dealing with the mass incarceration problem in america. we have 180,000 people in the federal system who are currently without hope, without opportunity and without a meaningful pathway forward to transforming themselves and this piece of legislation will provide them with the education and the vocational training and the mental health counseling and the substance abuse treatment and the re-entry programming that will enable them to transform their lives and will dramatically reduce recidivism and will save taxpayer dollars. that's an important step in the right direction. should we do more to begin to dismantle the mass incarceration as it relates to sentencing reform? of course. as i mentioned, john and poppy recallier, this mass incarceration has been with us for almost 50 years. you can't wave a singular magic
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wand and make it disappear in one shot. it will require sustained effort and sustained intensity and sustained equipment and a meaningful first step. >> congratulations on something bipartisan. we don't see it very often. >> thank you very much. >> new volcanic eruptions, new stunning pictures. stay with us. liberty mutual saved us almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. liberty did what? yeah, they saved us a ton, which gave us a little wiggle room in our budget. i wish our insurance did that. then we could get a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey, welcome back. this guy, right? (laughs) yes. ellen.
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island where he's been braving all of this. scott, what's the latest? >> reporter: john and poppy, there are no shortage of dangers here on the southern part of the big island of hawaii. you mentioned the ash cloud for people near the summit of kilauea 20 miles away from where we are and there's the sulfur dioxide continuing to pour out of those fissures and the nasty gas that happens when lava hits the ocean. that can also be potentially dangerous, and i haven't mentioned the earthquakes and obviously, the lava itself and the latest threat is this geothermal power plant where lava is encroaching slowly on to the property. authorities met with residents here to try to calm some of the concerns that they had. there were dangerous chemicals on that plant, and they've been removed now for some time. that plant has been shut now since may 3rd and now the issue is those geothermal wells and ten out of 11 of them have had cold water poured down them that
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seems to neutralize them. they had issues with the 11th. what they did was plugged it or capped it and authorities are confident at this point that it won't be an issue and the lava that is slowly creeping in there is still more than a mile away. and the fissures, some of them continue to bubble up. some of them are dying down including the one that injured darryl clinton. he is the only person to have been injured so far by kilauea. he was actually protecting two houses and one which was only a hundred yard away from a spewing fissure. we spoke to him in the hospital yesterday and he is in remarkably good spirits after being hit with a lava bomb that burned his leg and burned his porch. he's got a rod in his leg. he will be out for six weeks, but it's just amazing to hear how positive he is despite what's happened to him, john and poppy? >> it is. he's quite a character. i'm glad he's all right after that happened. scott, thank you very, very much. you can go to
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there's actually this web camera, and this is a live feed of the volcano, the kilauea volcano right now, 24/7 on >> it's mesmerizing. it is mesmerizing and still dangerous. >> very. >> it's like the yule log. >> the what? >> the yule log, but not as festive. >> james comey reacting to the president's claims that the spy was planted in his campaign and wait until you see what the fired fbi director has to say.
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who will believe anything based on information from media sources that will say anything. americans must break out of that bubble and seek truth. >> with us now cnn commentator tara meyer and joe. >> to you first, joe, he says americans should break out of the bubble and seek truth. if they haven't already will they? >> well, there are certainly partisans on both sides particularly in this polarized environment. many of them won't, but i think he makes a point that you have to start looking at some of the sources where this is coming from. for instance, again today with this informant meeting going over those materials being the
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republicans from the house only trey gowdy and nunes, that's not bipartisan and it's not trying to get to the bottom of this. it's actually trying to polarize people and make them go to their corners and that's something that all americans need to start thinking about. >> the president says or the fbi director says this is a dangerous time with all of the attacks that the president is making on the media and on the truth in some cases. leslie stall over the last 24 hours has actually revealed a conversation she had with president trump when she asked him why he attacks the media and reporting as much as he does. listen to this exchange. >> he said you know why i do it? i do it to discredit you all and demean you all so when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you. >> he said that? >> so tara, creating a situation to an extent where there is no truth, if there's no truth you
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can operate with impunity, correct? >> absolutely. those of us who have been paying about this from the very beginning have warned that this is what trump was doing. he telegraphed this. unfortunately, you have a large electorate that was willing to hear what they wanted to hear and donald trump honed in on that and knew it and he's exploited that. this form of propaganda that he employs by attack the media this way and by having no facts. i've always said it's very or wellian, and if you have what used to be facts and you have alternative facts and when you create that then there's no way to hold someone accountable, because people will only believe what they want to hear and it's this scary tribalism that's been exacerbated in ways that we haven't seen in a long time in this country because it's dangerous. it's similar to the cnn campaign,s apple versus banana
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campaign, and you're extolling hard facts and if you discredit everything that comes from it, everyone can say it's the deep state and it's this and that and that's what we're seeing right now and i'm not quite sure how this ends, to be honest. >> you can say orwellian, 1984 and through the looking glass. we saw something tack plake pla yesterday that was a direct attack on the freedom of the press. you had the ep achieve holding this meeting and only cnn was allowed inside and the epa said this was because of space limitations and multiple people said there were dozens of chairs open and there was zero access for media that has been accurately, truthfully reporting on all of the ethical concerns around the epa chief and all of a sudden they don't even have a seat in the room.
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>> and those photos don't lie. there are empty chairs. there are -- there's room on platforms for other cameras and that's what people need to start to do, citizens on all sides -- the picture doesn't lie, although you can fake that, too, these days, but i do think this is something that this administration has done time and time again. it's not about freedom of the press. it's about locking the press out and it's about attacking the press and knocking down the credibility. it's about moving people to their corners and again, that's what so much of this administration's actions has been. the problem with that is that there are not -- i mean, when people go to their corners, that's going to help with the republican base or the trump base, but it's not helping america. it's not helping us come together to look at these facts and to move forward in common cause and common national purpose, and i think that's the
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real detriment to what this administration is doing and the norms that they're breaking. >> tara, in ten seconds or less, did democrats move to their corners overnight when you had more quote, unquote, progressives winning the primaries? >> it's a natural reaction. it's a counterbalance that we've seen with the trump side of republicans, but this attack on press freedom and this attack on something that's so -- so a core value to our democracy and our republic is dangerous. >> when skryou have the preside of the united states and more and more people are starting to believe that, that is a direct and exist earn threat to the republic and we need to keep speaking the truth and keep at it because otherwise that's how you lose the democracy. >> by the way, it wasn't just the press calling the fbi criminals. >> absolutely was. >> tear a thank you. joe, nice to have you both here. >> tonight house minority leader nancy pelosi will answer your
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bleacher report. >> an unexpected thriller in these playoffs. the rockets were humiliated and they suffered a 41-point loss in game three. this bleacher report brought to you by ford going further so you can. james harden who came into this game on a mission not to let his team give up. we have a play you have to see here. the nasty one-handed dunk and the foul over draymond green and he led the way 30 points for the houston rockets and curry caught fire in the first quarter doing what curry does often. he broke out with the shimmy dance once again, but chris paul had a night of his own for the rockets putting up 27 points and the houston defense rose, and as the rockets win on the road to even the series. >> moving now to the nfl, owners have arrived for day two of league meetings in atlanta. one of the items talked about that could be resolved as early as today is how the league will handle the national anthem.
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"sports illustrated's" albert grier proposing one proposal on the table is to decide whether the players remain on the field for the anthem. teams will be penalized 15 yards if the players choose to kneel. several former nfl players have taken to social media criticizing that idea. an nfl spokesperson telling cnn that conversations in league meetings are candid, thoughtful and thorough, and they discuss the merits and draw backs of each approach and we will continue the conversation. so we'll have to wait and see if there's request resolution that comes out today. poppy? >> all right, lindsay, thank you so much. time for another kind of highlight reel, my favorite kind of highlight reel on this show. it has been the joy of my career so far to sit next to this man, john berman, he's wicked smart.
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and here are the best moments. >> i'm poppy harlow. >> i'm john berman. this is exact low how bill belichick always planned it and and we're talking about the debut of the brand new cnn "newsroom" right now. >> i get to sit next to john berman monday morning so i'm a lucky woman. >> good morning, i'm john berman. >> and i'm poppy harlow. >> i got you a hat. a super bowl hat. >> and i got your daughter a patriots shirt. >> this is going to turn out okay. >> sutherland springs, texas and we're live in washington. >> in miami, live in parkland florida. >> i think we've had wind gusts here upwards of 90 miles an hour and what can't cnn's john berman do? he finished the boston marathon flying down the final stretch. >> did you just smile when you get -- >> i see tom brady's name in the teleprompter and i smile. >> michael cohen is not my attorney. >> welcome to the least
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chaotic -- >> tariffs and porn stars just as the framers intended. >> for more on a gelding and a majority leader walk into a bar, can you stare into a total eclipse of the heart without glasses? what's your favorite line? >> i need you more than ever, and if you only hold me tight, we'll be holding on forever. >> no one believed me when i said i wanted to book bonnie tyler. it was the best tv moment. it was the best tv moment. you have made every morning as early as we have to get up such a joy. thank you, berman. >> itself been a wonderful 15 months or so. i'm not going far. i'm, like, literally -- >> seconds away. >> so for those of you who might not know, berman is going to join the wonderful allison camerota hosting new day three hours every morning and 6:00 to 9:00 a.m. eastern and don't go
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one second over and bleed into my time, okay? >> please tell allison how charming i can be. >> we've had those discussions. we've had those discussions. >> that's terrifying. >> thank you for everything. >> thank you for being with us. i'm poppy harlow. >> i'm john berman. "at this hour with kate bolduan" starts now. >> that was awesome. congratulations, guys. best highlight reel ever. congratulations, john. we get three hours and not just two of j.b. we will all be captivated as always and now to the news. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. as the sun came up, donald trump threw down. remember, the big caveat of yesterday, if there was a spy in the trump campaign. >> if they had spies in my campaign that would be a disgrace to this country and it would be very illegal aside from everything else. >> that big if today is gone with tweets like these. the spy was there in the early -- in early in the campaign and they


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