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hi there, i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn on a friday. let's get to it, beginning with this extraordinary meeting, north korea's former spy chief, the one suspected of masterminding that sony hack is inside the white house. that is the window into the oval where they still are meeting.
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never mind the fact that kim yong chol shouldn't be anywhere near 1600 pennsylvania avenue or even inside the united states for that matter considering he is on a sanctions list that bars him from coming in, but in an attempt to revive this on again/off again summit between president trump and kim jong un, chol is hand delivering this letter to the president on behalf of the north korean dictator. after his own meeting with chol, secretary of state mike pompeo was pretty positive about the progress. >> this is going to be a process that will take days and weeks to work our way through. there will be tough moments, there will be difficult times. i've had some difficult conversations with them as well. they've given it right back to me, too. we're decades into this challenge. >> jeff zeleny is there at the white house, our senior white house correspondent, cnn national security analyst sam
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vinigrad is there. jeff zeleny, we can't see much by treeing ying to peer through window but they're still in the meeting. are you keeping track? >> we certainly are keeping track. they're going on about 45 minutes or so that he's been in the oval office or in the white house. we believe he is still in the oval office. the picture that you can see there, brooke, is being shot via the rose garden, where the president often stands for events and other matters. we're on the other side of the white house here but our cameras are keeping an eye on the oval office. you cannot see much looking in there. we do know that the president was meeting with this top north korean official, who brought that letter to him from kim jong un. we're told by officials that at least the general contents of the letter were generally positive towards setting up that singapore summit. the timing of that is still in
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question, but there is one person here, brooke, who wants that to happen on the 12th of june. that is the president. it's one of the reasons all the rules essentially were thrown out the window to have this personal envoy of kim jong un come here to washington after meeting with mike pompeo earlier this week in new york city. so we do expect to hear from the president at some point this afternoon. we do not know if we'll get final word on if that summit is on or off, but certainly a moment of high anticipation here, brooke. not since almost 20 years ago, 1998, bill clinton had another top north korean official who worked for kim jong un's father into the oval office as well. he hand delivered a letter. but bill clinton of course sent his secretary of state, madeleine albright, to north korea at the time to pyongyang. this was not about a president to lead her summit. that's what we're talking about here. it's still pins and needles inside the white house to see
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what is exactly being brokered. of course more than just having the meetings, the conditions and substantial of what north korea is willing to do, brooke, is still an open question. >> but 45 minutes, samantha, 45 minute and, yes, some of that is the translation time between korean and english. do you think that is a positive indication that signs could be pointing to yes, that this thing could be a go? >> on a basic level i think this is a staffing breakdown on behalf of the white house. purely because kim yong chol is a pro. he knows his stuff. we also know that president trump doesn't do a great job of sticking to his script and sticking to his talking points. so every minute that passes when president trump is in the room with with kim yong chol, to me there's added risk that the president goes off of his talking point, tries to nuclear
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ad lib, if you will, and that's a risk. we have to remember that presidential time is often used as a carrot. so inviting kim yong chol into the oval office, the president is inviting him into a room that's typically reserved for allies, our closest friends, and giving him such an inordinate chunk of time that sends a message to kim jong un, i think, that north korea, you're just as credible as all of our allies and we're going to be treating you exactly the same, which as we know is something that kim jong un wants. >> sam and jeff, we're going to keep an eye on this meeting. if the president or secretary of state or anyone steps from front of the microphones one that wraps, we'll take that live. one day after granting some kind of clemency for one of celebrity criminals, one of president trump's confidantes says yes,
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there is a message hyped the show of mercy. roger stone told "the washington post," and i quote, it has to be a signal to mike flynn, paul manafort and even robert s. mueller iii, indict people for crimes that don't pertain to russian collusion and that's what will happen. just like rod blagojevich, dinesh d'souza. >> i think it's unfair to the presidency. i'm under routine audit. >> general flynn is a wonderful man. i think he's been treated very, very unfairly. sheriff joe was very unfairly
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treated. they are holding up every single nomination. what they're doing is unfair. >> now in prison for his seventh year, disgraced illinois governor, rod blagojevich no longer has that thick brown hair but what he does have that's been eluding him for some time is hope. that is what his wife said president trump gave him and his family when he announced he was considering commuting the rest of his 14-year sentence. patty blagojevich said she gets how this russia feepresident fe the whole russia investigation. >> i see the same people that did this to my family, the same people that secretly taped us and twisted the facts and perverted the law that ended up my husband in jail, you know,
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these same people are trying to do the same thing that they did to my husband, just on a much larger scale. >> with me now is rod blagojevich's brother, robert blagojevich, a co-defendant in the ex-governor's first trial. he wrote "fund-raiser a, my fight for freedom and justice." robert, nice to have you on. welcome, sir. >> thank you, brooke. >> first off, just what's your reaction to hearing that the president is considering commuting your brother's sentence? >> i'm cautiously optimistic. if president trump were gracious enough to commute rod's sentence and return him to his family, i think that would be a great justice and a reversal of what i think is a major injustice of 14 years in federal prison for a guy who did not take any money and for a guy who i know quite well who had no criminal intent during the time that we were wire tapped for 50 days. the government can make a federal case out of anything if
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they're wire tapping you and surveilling you and they will connect dots that can make a federal case, as in my situation. an innocent man who they ultimately let go after our first trial because they had nothing on me. ethey want they wanted me to flip, compose against my brother. >> but, robert, your brother was ultimately convicted on more than a dozen felony corruption charges, there was all the evidence on tape. the ""chicago tribune"" wrote even if five of his 18 felony convictions were vacated, your brother would still be eligible for a sentence of 30 years to life. >> and my response to that is and this is an astonishing thing to me, i'm a veteran, taxpayer, a guy who had belief in the criminal justice system before it happened to me and i was indicted, not understanding what we were up against. during the trial i can tell you
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70 to 100 calls of my brother that were exculpatory never got played to the jury. i heard them all. my brother, if he was guilty of anything, the total body of work would show he was guilty of stupid talk. it's been an unfair portrayal. this is what happens when the government has an agenda and that's what they did against our family. >> okay. we won't relitigate on tv, but i do want to ask you about your letter to the white house, this was the end of april, asking them to pardon your brother. and so you wrote, we've highlighted this one piece, "i know firsthand the righteousness of the d.o.j. and the fbi, even as they manipulate the law and operate corruptly." robert, how can you say that about the justice department, about the mueller investigation, even into the michael cohen investigation when you have zero clue as to what these investigators know. you're not on the inside. >> well, let me tell you, i do have a clue because i was in the
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arena. they targeted me. i know what i did and didn't do and i also know from the wiretaps that i heard about my brother that they excluded tapes that would have been exculpatory to him. i mean, it is just wrong. this is the united states of america and i'll tell you, to your listeners, our civil liberties are at stake here. if it can happen to me, it can happen to anybody, and, brooke, it can even happen to you. >> do you think all people prosecuted are victims? >> no. if you look at the conviction rate, it 96%. nobody's that good. there's a reason for that. >> trump's pardons, they're being seen -- or commutation in your brother's case, they're being seen to this message to the likes of manafort and flynn and cohen, but also that he's
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personally selecting people that were selected of crimes that the president could actually be charged of. " "someone gave him a list of celebrity convicted of all of his potential crimes, consciousness of guilt." >> president trump is a political disrupter, much like uber and airbnb and lyft. he is a political disrupter in washington, d.c. if you look around the washington zip codes, they are the most wealthiest in the country. there is a problem. there's no industry there. people live off the government. you've got bureaucrats entren entrenched specifically in the d.o.j. who have no accountability anywhere. so my view is president trump is
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trying to right wrongs and he's disrupting a system that's gotten so entrenched and entitled that it's about time in my opinion. if he could be good to my brother, i'd be very grateful for that. >> if he is good to your brother and his sentence is commuted and it's my understanding the two of you ares trangs estranged, do y he'll go out and push the president's agenda like dinesh d'souza is? >> there's no agenda of my brother that would appeal to president trump. having my brother united with his family would be a good thing. >> robert blagojevich, thank
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you. >> gloria borger, what did you think of that, robert blagojevich calling the president a disrupter and he knows information firsthand. what did you think? >> i think he would be speaking words that would be music to the president's here. in the quote you used from the left that expressed this antipathy toward law enforcement and the department of justice. we know that the president shares that and is even angry about it in his own case. and so anybody like blagojevich's wife or his brother saying, you know, we know how you feel because we were treated so badly in the same way, we share your grievance, i think that's very helpful to their case with this president. >> here's a clip from dinni fro
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d'souza, who the president pardoned just yesterday. >> the president said, dinesh, you've been a great representative of freedom, he said i have to tell you, you've been screwed and using his power he was going to rectify it, sort of clear the slate and he said he just wanted me to be out there to be a bigger voice than ever defending the principles that i believe in. >> trump told him to keep doing what he believes in. how do you interpret that? >> well, look, i think it's a message that the president is sending loud and clear. it's a strategy to assure the loyalty of his people who are facing the criminal justice system, like flynn or manafort or cohen, for example. i also think that it a way to say i'm in charge. there is finally something that i can do by decree where i don't have to go to congress for it, i don't even have to go to the department of justice for it. i can actually do it myself with my signature and we know that
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this is a president who has openly expressed his frustration with the justice department, right, and here now he can just do this with his own signature so he's talking to dinesh and he says, look, you have to go out there and you have to continue doing what you're doing and the implication is i'm going to continue doing what i'm doing. and don't forget, there's one other thing here, which is that this is a president who is also punching back and his enemies because in many of these cases, as you know, the people who represented or fought against the people who were in jail, like in blagojevich's case, we know it was patrick fitzgerald. patrick fitzgerald was appointed to his position by none other than james comey and also fitzgerald is now comey's attorney. so there are all these threads and you have this perfect storm and the president can hit his enemies and that includes the justice department, flex his
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muscle and ease his frustration a bit and just do something unilaterally. and he has not been able to do that on much of anything else. and i think he enjoys it. >> easy to start connecting the dots on all these things. gloria borger, thank you very much. >> sure. >> staying in washington here again, live pictures through the rose garden at the white house on through to the oval office where we're waiting for news on this meeting between kim yong chol, this high-ranking north korean, first time someone of his stature has come to the u.s. in 18 years. meeting and handing a letter over to president trump from the dictator back home. stay tuned for that. also just in, cable tv host joy reid now apologizing after more offensive blog posts surfaced from her past. what she's saying to the mccain family and how she's explaining this. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. get netflix r the whole family. so you can get lost in space in your own backyard...
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she writes there are things i deeply regret and today i am sincerely apologizing again. she published an image of arizona senator jackson looking like the virginia tech shooter. the caption, mocked comments that mccain had made about taking down osama bin laden.
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his daughter, megan, calling her beyond disgusting and disgraceful. she has shade she has the highest respect for senator mccain that, she reached out to megan mccain. was that what forced her for breaking her silence? >> it seems like every day there's a new revelation of stuff on her old block, there was a 9/11 truther that some found disturbing. there could be even more posts that maybe are going to be published by various web sites in the future. this started more than six months ago. there had been anti-gay posts on her blog she discovered, she apologiz apologized. in april more posts came out and she said she was hand.
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she's a time slot rival of mine, i hate to have to come out and say anything. now in these new blog posts this week, she's not saying she was hand at all. so i guess that idea's gone out the window. >> wondering what that means for the hacking claim. and, jeremy, do you, why not just if you're joy, why not just come clean, full throat, mea culpa from the beginning, this is what i wrote, it was this time in my life, get it all out there then? >> we still know what she wrote and what she didn't write. it seems like she wrote many posts that were offensivoffensi. in her note today she was contrite but she didn't say i
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wrote those blog posts. >> doesn't that make it worse for her? >> people are saying, as brian said, it's an issue of trust. she's a newscaster so you want to trust what she says. it's been a slow roll over the last few months and this is her longest statement to date. it doesn't mention hacking at all. she's doing what she did a few months ago, which is say i apologize for my past blog posts but once again not taking any responsibility. >> and msnbc is standing by her. >> they put out a statement, let me read it. "some of the things written by joy on her old blog are
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obviously hateful and hurtful. they are not reflective of her. she has apologized publicly and privately and she's grown and evolved." >> i think we have to recognize that people do change, they should be given the space to evolve. and that's what she's saying, she's evolved and grown over the years and msnbc is supporting her over that. a little different over the roseanne barr case, racist posts five years ago, another racist post this week. no indication of change or evolution. to be fair, joy has said she's changed and evolved her reviews, but it's the credibility issue about claiming you were hacked and maybe not claiming you were hacked and then you had an expert say the fbi is investigating, maybe that's not true. that's really i think the issue here. it's up to her viewers to decide if she's credible on that or not. >> jeremy, last question to you,
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it really does sound like msnbc is standing by her. do you think she's safe job-wise? >> i think the network likes her a lot. she's a very important voice for the network. she's popular with viewers. her msnbc colleagues when it was okay to do that, came out and supported her. i think that they think she has a path forward and they hope this statement will put things to rest for now. >> we're going to hear her critics say this is another double standard. that's beens li the line of the week. in this case for a liberal star. >> brian stelter, thank you. coming up next, as american starts a trade war with allies, vows of retaliation. that's next. managing blood sugar
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key u.s. allies are vowing retaliation after the president slapped tariff is s on canada, mexico and the eu. canada's prime minister blasting the president. and theresa may saying she is deeply disappointed with the tariffs, all of this potentially sparking a global trade war. with me now, wendy cutler, the former acting deputy trade representative.
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whi whitney, nice to have you on. >> thank you. >> larry kudlow said, no, no, no, it n's not a trade war, it' just a family disagreement. is this a trade war? >> we're not in a full trade war but there is a real chance this may escalate into a trade war. >> he says family disagreement. you said we are alienating all of our friend and partners at a time when we could really use their support. tell me why that is so important right now. >> well, on north korea for sure, but even in the trade world, we have serious trade problems with china and we are now negotiating with china. but history shows we're going to be more successful if we face china with a united front with our other trading partners. when we ask them for help now to support our position, they're not so enthusiastic about helping us in light of these
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steel and aluminum tariffs. >> i read the words of trudeau, it will certainly complicate any ongoing negotiations on nafta. the president warns there will be, quote, a fair deal or no deal at all. trudeau is blaming this on mike pence. >> we're in a tense time right now. everybody needs to cool down a bit. there were clearly difficulties in the nafta negotiations, but i believe that ultimately we can reach an agreement with canada and mexico. but flexibility is required on both sides. but with these tariffs in the background, it's hard to see all three countries getting together and negotiating in a constructive manner. we're going to need to work through these tariff issues.
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>> how about you're in america, waking up to these jobs numbers, the unemployment rate is now at one of the lowest points in half a century. you see the graph there. how might that -- how might a trade war impact that? >> well, a trade war could really wreak havoc on the trade numbers and the economy and global economy. >> how. >> let's take the steel tariffs. employment in steel in the united states is in the tens of thousands of jobs but over 2 million workers and industries use steel and that's going to raise the prices of steel, making those products uncompetitive and may lead to layoffs in those sectors. furthermore, when our trading partners are retaliating against us -- >> forgive me, wendy, but i'm looking at the back of the president's head.
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now they've been -- when i say they, this north korean official and the president, they have been meeting inside the oval office. we know that he had passed along a letter, hand delivers this letter, got this special permission to go outside his 25-mile radius in new york city to be able to travel to our nation's capital and do exactly what you're seeing here, pass along this letter from kim jong un. stored picture. samantha vinograd is with me. what's your read? >> i get chills when i see this guy walking into the white house to be totally honest, brooke. he does have a storied past. he's done a lot of really bad things and i'm very unnerved, frankly, that the president spent this much time with him, largely because kim yong chol is a pro. he's a seasoned negotiator, he has a lot of experience working on a lot of really bad things and i wonder why the president would have given him this much
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time and what kind of detail they really went into, when president trump and i don't know who else is this that meeting, is not an arms negotiator, a state department diplomat. it worries me that spent that much time together. the question is whether they did come to some sort of agreement denuclearization means and what other concessions at a high level both sides were willing to offer. >> let me take you back just to your first point. yes, this is a huge deal diplomatically and you're right to have chills for a myriad of reasons. are you worried that the u.s. is getting played somehow? >> i don't really think that we know but what i'm worried about right now is that we don't have a clear answer about what we're going for on june 1t2th, if tha is a date we're working for.
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denuclearization is a very broad term, and what's happening right now is we are seeing a splintering of opinions and what that means, but also a splintering among the coalition. we've had president moon of south korea. he was last at the white house, he moved closer in some ways to kim jong un. we've had the north koreans go to the chinese, host the russians. they seem to be playing a very smart diplomatic game and i don't know that we have our ducks in a row internally in defining what denuclearization means and what we really want. >> let's go to the other side of the white house. sam, stay with me. our senior white house correspondent who has been keeping an eye on this, jeff zeleny. jeff, kim yong chol is the man we're talking about, who was sent from north korea, who is there with the president with among others, presumably translators and other officials. is he going to speak? let's hang on just for a second.
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>> reporter: mr. president, can you come talk to us? >> we'll be meeting on june 12th in singapore. it went very well. it's really a get to know you kind of a situation. mike has spent two days doing this. we've gotten to know their people very well, and we will -- you people are going to have to travel because you'll be in singapore on june 12th. and i think it will be a process. i never said it goes in one meeting. i think it's going to be a process, but the relationships are building and that's a very positive. >> reporter: mr. president, what's your sense of what the north koreans are willing to do on the issue of denuclearization? >> well, i think they want to do that. i know they want to do that. they want other things along the line. they want to develop as a country. that's going to happen, i have no doubt. japan is involved, as you know,
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and south korea is very much involved. we're involved in terms of getting everything, everybody wants the united states so we're going to help in the process very much. without us it wouldn't happen. i think you see a lot of very positive things, including with china. i think you see a lot of very positive thing happening with president xi, who has helped me quite a bit with this. we'll see where it leads. we'll lead june 12th, we'll be in singapore. i've never said it happens in one meeting. you're talking about years of hostility, years of problems. there's really hatred between so much different nations. but i think you're going to have a really positive result in the end. not from one meeting. >> you appeared to question their sincerity in your letter to kim jong un last week. have they gone far enough now -- >> my letter was a response to
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their letter. the media forgot that. the media said you had a meeting and cancelled it. i cancelled it in response to a very tough statement. and i think we're over that, totally over that and now we're going to deal and we're going to really start a process. we're meeting with the chairman on june 12th and i think it's probably going to be a very successful -- ultimately a successful process. we'll see. remember what i say. we will see what we will see, but i think it's going to be a process that we deserve to have. i mean, we really deserve. they want it, we think it's important, and i think we would be making a big mistake if we didn't have it. i think we're going to have a relationship and it will start on june 12th. >> reporter: what can you get done on june 12th? >> well, this was a very good meeting. don't forget, this was a meeting where a letter was given to me by kim jong un and that letter was a very nice letter.
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oh, would you like to see what was in that letter. how much? how much? how much? >> reporter: can you give as you flavor of what the letter was? >> it was a very interesting letter. at some point it may be appropriate, i'll be able to give it to you maybe, you'll be able to see it and maybe fairly soon. but really this was a letter presentation that ended up being a two-hour conversation. >> reporter: why did it end up being so long? >> because we found the whole subject matter very interesting and i think they want to do something and if it's possible, so do we. i think all we're going to do is be there on june 12th and we're going to see what happens. mike has been dealing very well. they have a very good relationship with mike pompeo, our secretary of state. it was actually very interesting because this was literally going to be the delivery of the letter and it ended up being a two-hour conversation with the second
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most powerful man in north korea. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> we talked about almost everything. we talked about a lot. and we talked about sanctions. >> reporter: [ inaudible question ] >> we talked about a lot of things. the big deal with be on june 12th. it's a process. we're not going to go in and sign something on june 12th. we never were. i told him today, teake your time. we can go fast, we can go slowly. they'd like to see something happen and if we can work that out, that would be good. >> reporter: double kim jong un is committed to denuclearization? >> yes, he is. he's going to be careful, he's not going to run and do things.
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i told him, look, we would not take sanctions off unless they do that. but the sanctions are very powerful. you've seen how powerful in other ways. you're going to see how powerful sanctions are when it comes to iran, see what that's doing to iran. so we have sanctions on. and at a certain point, i tell you what, i look forward to the day when i can take the sanctions off of north korea. >> reporter: did you talk about human rights today? >> we did not talk about human rights. >> reporter: do you expect to talk about it on june 12th? >> could be, yeah. i think we probably will and maybe in great detail. we did not talk about human rights? >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> yes, we talked about it. yes, they asked about sanctions. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> it's going to remain what it is now. i don't want to use the term maximum pressure anymore. i don't want to use that term. we're getting along. you see the relationship. it's not a question of maximum pressure. at some point hopefully for the
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good of millions of people a deal will be worked out. >> reporter: what are the state of relations now between the united states and north korea after your meeting? >> i think they're okay. i think they're good. is it like the relationships we have with a couple of other countries, probably not, right. but i think the relationship we have right now with north korea is as good as it's been in a long time. they had no relationship under the previous administration. there was nothing. it was nothing. they were exploding. it was just a nothing. nothing was done. hey, folks, this should not be up to me. this should have been handled a long time ago. this got to a very critical point. this should have been handled many years ago, not only by president obama but by other presidents that preceded me. this shouldn't be done now. this should have been done years ago. what's going to happen is south korea will do that. i don't think the united states is going to have to spend. i think south korea will do it,
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i think china, i think frankly china will help out. i think that japan will help out. no, i don't see the united states spending a lot of money. you know, we have three hostages. how much money did i spend for the hostages? look, we're very far away. we are very far away. those places are very close. it's their neighborhood. we're thousands -- we're 6,000 miles away. i already told south korea, i said, you know, you're going to have to get ready and japan also. and i think they really want to see something great happen. japan does, south korea does and i think china does. but that's their neighborhood. it's not our neighborhood. >> reporter: yesterday you were concerned about the meeting that lavrov was having with -- >> i didn't like it. i said what's the purpose of the russian meeting.
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if it's a positive meeting, i'm happy. if it's a negative meeting, i'm not happy and it could well be a positive meeting. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> that could happen. we talked about it. we talked about ending the war. this war has been going on -- got to be the longest war, almost 70 years, right? and there is a possibility of something like that. that's more of a signing of a document that it's very important in one way. historically it's very important, but we'll see. we did discuss that, the ending of the korean war. can you believe we're talking about the ending of the korean war? you're talking about 70 years. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> we're going to discuss it prior to the meeting. that's something that could come out of the meeting. i think really that's something that maybe could come out of the meeting. >> reporter: where is china on this? >> i think china would like to see a very positive result. i have a lot of good relations with, as you know, chairman xi. he's a great -- he's really a
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very wonderful guy. he's a man that loves china. however, he wants to do what's best for china. i think china and president xi would love to see something happen here. >> reporter: how will you guarantee security, how will do you that? >> we're going to make sure this is secure. it's not going to be starting up again. they have potential to be a great country. i think south korea, japan and china will help a lot. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> that's a very complicated question. you'll see that over a period of time. >> reporter: had you gave your speech in seoul, you talked about a transformation. if you leave kim in place, can they really have a transformation? >> i think so. i think it can be a very
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successful result. we'll see you on june 12th. m the me in the meantime, how's sara doing? i told them, we'll have probably others. wouldn't it be wonderful if we sat down and it's settled but i don't think that will happen. i said frankly, i said take your time. one thing i did do, we had hundreds of new sanctions ready to go on. the director did not ask but i said i'm not going to put them on until such time that the talks break down. we have hundreds that are ready to go. but i said i'm not going to put -- why would i do that when we're talking so nicely? so -- >> reporter: the diplomacy part of your -- >> i think it's a getting to know you meeting plus.
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and that can be a very positive thing. >> reporter: did you send anything back? >> no, i haven't seen the letter yet. i purpose lily didn't open the letter. i didn't open it in front of the director. i said "would you want me to open it?" he said you can read it later. i could be in for a big surprise, folks. >> reporter: what's your view on nafta? >> nafta has been a terrible deal for the united states and people are starting to see it. we lose over $100 billion a year with mexico. we lose many, many. billi billions with canada. and all of these countries, including the european union, they charge five times the tariffs, we don't charge
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tariffs, essentially. i believe in the word reciprocal. you're going to charge five times, we're going to charge five times. no other president ever brought it up. so it's going to be done now. we're negotiating numerous deals. we're talking about nafta. to be honest with you, i wouldn't mind seeing nafta where you'd go by a different name where you make a separate deal with canada and a separate deal with mexico. you're talking about a very different two countries. but i wouldn't mind seeing a separate deal with canada where you have one time of product, so to speak, and a separate deal with mexico. these are two very different countries. it's been a lousy deal for the united states from day one. we lose a lot of money with canada and we lose a fortune with mexico. and it n and it not going to happen like that anymore. mexico has taken our car companies, a big percentage of them, and we can't do that.
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look, the american worker agrees with me. obviously the stock market agrees because when you look at health insurance going on with the stocks, they're starting to see -- if you take the european union and you see the kind of tariff they charge and then we don't, that's called not fair trade. i want fair trade. i like free trade but i want fair trade. at a minimum i want fair trade. and we're going to have it for our workers and for our company. and you know what, the other side understands it. to be honest with you, they cannot believe that they've gotten away with this for so many decades. >> reporter: [ inaudible ]. >> they're our allies but they take advantage of us economically. i agree. i love canada, i love mexico, i love them. but mexico is making over $100 billion a year and they're not helping us with our border because they have strong laws and we have horrible laws. we have horrible border laws. they have strong -- they could
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solve our border problem if they wanted but they don't want to. and when they want to, then i'll be happy. i think we have a good chance of doing some great trade deals and we'll make america great again, right? that's what we're doing. but america has picked up, we've made about $8 trillion in value since, you know, we doubled the size of the economy of china. we picked up a lot of value, a lot of wealth since i've been president. more than $8 trillion. and that's a very low number because we're talking stock market wealth. i'm talking about beyond that. our companies are doing great, we're doing great, our military is rebuilding. we have a lot of great things going. we're going to straighten out trade. the trade is going to be easy. other countries understand when i talk to them, they look at me and this is in closed doors, not for you people, and they essentially say we can't believe we've gotten away with this for
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so long. it like you guys can't believe you've gotten away with it for so long. >> reporter: what's on the agenda for -- >> i want everyone to watch. we have such a great -- we have such a great country right now at this level. i don't think we've ever been on an economic scale, you look at the numbers, 3.8%, we have the lowest numbers of unemployment that we've had -- is it 50 years? i think it's 50. 50 years, right? so we have some of the best economic numbers we've ever had as a nation and that goes a long way. and we're building something very special. just remember, we're twice the size -- our economy -- twice the size of china. good meeting today. i think it's a great start. >> reporter: what's on the agenda? >> a little relaxation, a lot of work. we have a lot of calls set up. calling a lot of the foreign
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leaders, i'm negotiating trade deals. i'm working hard for you people. have a good time. thank you. >> okay. there's a lot to break down there from the president stopping to talk to the press after he met with kim yong chol, this north korean official. there are hints from the president the letter from kim jong un, the headline, the first sentence, he said, we will be meeting on june 12th in singapore. a couple other quotes from the president, "should be an incredible success but we'll see what happens." he characterized the first meeting as a getting-to-know-you motor vehic getting-to-know-you-meeting plus. he said it was a nice letter and then five minutes later he said he didn't open the letter.
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jeff zeleny, just looking at that lingering good-bye and aware of all the cameras on him and watching history unfold, and it sounds like the show will go on. >> brooke, that is exactly what it sounds like. the show certainly is what was on the president's mind today when he had this long good-bye and the handshake, as you said. just to the substantial of the meeting, he said the june 12th meeting is back and and it's going to be, as he said, the start of a relationship. certainly ratcheting down any expectation that something will be solved there. he said it the first of several meetings, the beginning of a process. but interestingly the president said repeatedly he believes kim jong un is indeed committed to ending his nuclear program. he said i know he wants do that, they want to develop as a
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country, but he wants to be careful in doing so. i think at this moment if we just take a step back, it was on march 8th, less than two months ago when president trump standing here in the white house briefing room just behind me at the door, he walked into this briefing room and said there's going to be an announcement this evening from south korea. that was the very beginning of that. so from then to right now, the first of june, brooke, it does look look that meeting in singapore is on, with all the flair and the drama that the president wanted people to see today that he is committed to this. but the fact that there was that long of a meeting in the oval office with kim jong deputy, there is no one at his side as a personal envoy than him, but the questions remain exactly when president trump and kim jong un, the chairman, as the president referred to him as, get together in a room, what
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specifically commitments with the u.s. give? what concessions will the u.s. give? that is something, brooke, the president did not give a window into. >> gloria, to you next, this is so significant diplomatically speaking. you see mike pompeo, the secretary of state, part of this north korean delegation. the long good-bye. i just want to marn eiginate on just for a second. what did you make of the pageantry of it all? >> it's as if it was produced by the american president himself, who wanted the public to say and who wanted kim jong un to see how well he treated his emissary, bringing him into the oval office, which he did not have to do, certainly meeting with him for over 90 minutes, which he did not have to do. having a substan