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i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. we welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. roseanne goes too far and gets cancelled, but smagt bee's still got her job so president trump is complaining about a double standard. he's right but not for the reason he thinks. and unemployment is down to historic lows but americans are also much less likely to outearn their parents. what's the cause of that economic divide and can that tailspin be reversed? plus, a senior about to graduate places a joke ad on craig's list offering his high school for sale, but in today's school shooting climate, administrators think there was nothing funny about it. what's the lesson there? and roseanne wasn't the only celebrity in a twitter jam this week. anonymous tweets about the nba have been associated to the nba
operation of basketball and his wife and his job hajs in the balance. but first, the president wants to talk about double standards and samantha be. let's do that. this week, roseanne barr's show was cancelled because of her racist tweet. shortly after that samantha bee called ivanka trump the "c" word on her show. the president was quick to weigh in. why aren't they firing samantha bee? a total double standard. that's okay. we are winning and we'll be doing so for a long time to come. there is definitely a double standard here but not the one the president's complaining about. a month before the 2016 election, i interviewed jennifer lynn, a former reporter at "the philadelphia inquirer" about her 1988 interaction with subject donald trump. here's what she recounted. >> i got a phone call. the woman said, hold for mr. trump, and then mr. trump began to yell at me. he told me i had shit for
brains. he told me i worked for a shitty newspaper and he said, what sort of shit was a writing. i was stunned. he hung up and called my boss in philadelphia and treated my boss to the same sort of rant, but then he added he referred to me as the "c" word, a word i will not use, michael, because in my opinion, it's the worst word in the english language to refer to a woman. >> so white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders called bee's language vial and vicious and said executives at tbs and correspondent parent time warner, by the way, is cnn's parent as well, quote, must demonstrate that such explicit profanity about female members of this administration will not be condoned. bee soon thereafter offered up her apology on twitter. i would like to sincerely apologize to ivanka trump and my viewers to use an expletive on my show to describe her last night. it was inappropriate and inexcusable.
i crossed a line and i deeply regret it. given that the president himself used the "c" word, according to jennifer lynn, where exactly is the line? i want to know what you think. go to my website this hour and answer today's poll question, should samantha bee be fired to referring to ivanka trump as the "c" word? that's posted now at smerconish.com. joining me now to discuss, comedian spierk ferriston, written for "seinfeld," "snl," "late night" for david letterman, was the host of his own program on fox. spike, i should mention you are part of comedic lore because you wrote the soup nazi episode. no matter what you do for the rest of your life, this is your epitaph, my friend. >> and the "c" word isn't in it. so there you go. >> it is not in it. no. although i'm sure you could have worked it in if you had thought of it at the time. i stayed up later than i normally do last night. i watched bill maher and in his opening commentary, he said something very relevant. let's watch. >> it was a tough, tough week
for the line. you know, the line, the one that kmee comedians sometimes cross. tough week for the line. >> what is the line? can you define the line? is this like potter stewart knowing pornography when he sees it? define it. >> the line is a combination of what you're writing about, and let's take samantha bee as an example. she's writing about a horrible situation that's happening in our country were children are being torn out of the arms of their parents at the border, an immigration issue, which is a very extreme issue. a combination of how you feel about that, how you're going to write about that and also your network broadcast standards. how much they're going to let you say about that. so, you know, i watched the samantha bee joke and i watched her audience react to it. she's a comedian, she's a comedy writer. they very carefully choose their
jokes. for me, the joke landed and you hear the audience laugh. you hear the audience applause. it's commenting on a terrible situation and it's using a bit of extreme language to make her point. you know, i don't know that she crossed the line. for me, that's a personal thing. i thought she nailed the joke and i think her apology has more to do with maybe network politics than whether -- than whether she really needed to make one in the first place. >> well, i guess by that explanation then you find her apology and her admission of crossing a line to be disingenuous? >> not disingenuous. i don't think it was needed. you know, again, i don't know samantha and i don't know the situation, but i can only imagine how the network is panicking. the network who, by the way, was most likely at rehearsal and heard the line and let it go anyway. she might be making a decision, you know, it's easier to apologize and keep my job and keep my staff employed and she
also may be just exploring the very edge of the line that tbs has. that she -- maybe there is a line for her with that network and maybe she did cross it and now she knows. i think what's important to point out, she's not doing it all the time. >> so david french writing for "national review" has a different take and one that i hear from many folks on the right. i'd love you to respond to that. put it up on the screen. no reasonable person thinks samantha bee would still have a job at tbs if she used the same terrible language to insult chelsea clinton or michelle obama. no reasonable person believes that msnbc would stick with a conservative for so long in the face of anything like the stade drumbeat of outrageous revelations explained in part by dubious accounts of hacking by joy reid's old world. >> david french, known for his humored critiques around the world. that would be my first response.
you're talking about joy reid, you're talking about political shows. there is a popular misnomer that comes from the right that they're liberal writing rooms. they're not. the letterman writing room, "saturday night live," my own show, what we're doing is right and wrong, not left and right. we're not sitting down and going, hey, let's toe the water, toe the line for the left today. we look at news and we're social judges, and this is a right or wrong issue that she's commenting on. i don't think we should be caught up on the word she used because i think we're all fine with it. we're all okay. our ears aren't bleeding. we should be caught up on what she was talking about and what she was trying to point out with her humor, and that is this horrible administration policy where children and parents are being separated. >> sally field, speaking of the word itself, if we're really going to go there, i thought had a unique take by twitter. dare i put it up on the screen?
she pretty much says, you know, we should embrace the "c" word. they are powerful, beautiful, nurturing and honest. your take? >> okay. i guess. i mean, for me personally, if you were asking me as a writer and as a performer, i find that word hard on my ears. i prefer not to use it at all. >> yeah, me, too. >> i think the british, you know, and the australians and the scottish use it best and it's usually for one man to insult another man and it means moron. but, still, i don't use it. and by the way, we don't have any swears past this swear. so once we become resistant to this word, we've got nothing. so use it sparingly. >> it is the last one left. you're right. the "f" bomb has totally lost its sting. bono was right about what he said about the "f" word. spike, thanks so much for being here. >> thanks for having me, man. >> spike, by the way, currenly
hosting "spike's car radio" on podcast 1. i want to know what you think. go to my website at smerconish.com this hour and answer the question. i'd be very interested to see the way this goes. should samantha bee be fired to referring to ivanka trump as the "c" word? what are your thoughts? tweet me @smerconish or go to my facebook page. i'll read some during the course of the program. no, roseanne and sam bee aren't the same. one is racism, the other is boy talk, right? i mean, are racism and so-called comedy -- i guess i should have said to spike, when i listen to samantha bee, it's not entirely clear to me that that at point of her monologue it was comedy, to me, it seemed like a pretty straightforward political argument that threw in a "c" worst reference to ivanka. one more, quickly, if we can. although i don't agree with what roseanne said, i don't believe the show should have been cancelled. our society has become too sensitive. hey, robert, i agree with you
insofar as it's got to be all one way or the other. either we're going to let it all happen and stop trying to parse between these things or not. a buddy of mine, liberal paul, said to me we now have double standards of double standards. that's how far gone it is. up ahead, the jobs report couldn't have been better for president trump. unemployment at an historic low, yet many americans have been locked out of the upward mobility enjoyed by previous generations. why is that? and would you not go to a doctor or hire an electric electrician if their politics aren't the same as yours? a new study suggests that's where we're headed thanks to the partisan divide.
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credit. quote, we ran out of words to describe how good the jobs numbers are. my next guest says for the past half century the rich and powerful are getting more rich and more powerful. we've separated into the protected and unprotected and those in the former have twauted opportunities for everybody else, leaving most americans less and less likely to out-earn their parents. i spoke earlier with stephen bristle, founder of both court tv and the american lawyer magazine. he's the author of a brand-new book "tailspin: the people and forces behind america's 50-year fall and those fights to reverse it." stephen, you had an epiphany after landing at kennedy, what was it? >> it was about 2 1/2 years ago my wife and i landed at kennedy. we were coming through europe. we trudged through one of the terminals. water was leaking. it was crowded.
battli the bathrooms were felty and be took the expressway that goes from kennedy into the city. it was ugly, filled with potholes, jammed with traffic. in the middle of the expressway is a tram that i know cost 3 or $4 billion. it goes all the way from endy airport eight miles into queens, not into the center of the city. i made a joke about that to my wife and said, you know what would someone from france or germany or any place else arriving in america for the first time think of the greatest country in the world arriving in the gateway city and going through that airport and being on this highway and looking at the poor excuse for mass transit that we have? and then i rattled off a couple of other things about our health care system and everything else and i said, you know, would they really think that we're the greatest country in the world? and then i stopped and said, you know, what happened to us? how did we get that way? she mumbled something, well, you know, maybe that's a book.
>> and, indeed, it is. and in "tailspin," i'll put this up on the screen. here is how you sum up the situation. key measures of the nation's public engagement, satisfaction and confidence, voter turnout, knowledge of public policy, faith that the next generation will fair better than the current one and respect for basic institutions, especially the government are far below what they were 50 years ago, and in many cases have reached near historic lows. you come up with, i think, provocative theory as to how things got so bad. what's the cliffs note version? >> well, things got so bad because the very things that make america great, to steal an expression, like the first amendment or pmeritocracy or du process. those values were hijacked in a way there weren't any guardrails to protect us. so, for example, the first
amendment became a way for corporations to contribute as much money as they want to the political candidates who support them. and also to avoid regulations that had been in place restricting deceptive advertising or even how they market prescription drugs. meritocracy have become a generation that benefitted from mer meritocracy because we were all of a sudden offered places in the elite education at institutions. that became a new kind of airs tockcy. now filling the law firms and the banks and the corporate boardrooms, they were smarter and more aggressive and more driven to defend what they had won and build moats around
themselves. that's the country we have today. >> was it done with malice? >> no, not at all. this was -- these were smart people striving achieving and they were doing what makes america great, it's just that the usual guardrails didn't work because they were so smart and so driven that they were able to go too far. for example, the legal engineers, the lawyers were able to have, you know, much greater influence than they ever had. their idea of trailblazing legal strategy was to create a, you know, corporate takeovers and mergers and fights or to create arbitration clauses that keep, you know, people out of the courts when they have a consumer dispute or when they have a job discrimination dispute. so everything was tilted toward what i call the protected in this country at the expense of the vast majority of the people
in this country who are the unprotected. that's where we are. those unprotected became so frustrated that 46% of them decided to vote for someone who was not part of the meritocracy, someone who promised them he would make it better by rejecting the elites. >> before you leave me, give me the good news. >> the good news is that the book is incredibly hopeful because it has stories and portraits of people and organizations who are actually fighting and creating effective plans and strategies in every sphere that i write about, whether it's campaign finance reform, reform of wall street, fixing the way our civil service system is broken, fixing the way our government is broken, fixing the federal budget. there are people out there, and they're not naive, they're just as determined and resilient as
they could possibly be and it's that determination and that resilience of all those people who i portray in the book who i think are going to bring us back once the country gets frustrated enough that it turns away from simple solutions and sloganeering and says, all right, we have to get back to who we were. >> i think that "tailspin was eye-opening. i thoroughly enjoyed it. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> caller: up ahead, when a high school senior placed this joke craig's list add offering his school for sale, he was banned from graduation. what kind of lesson is to be learned here? >> caller: the president of basketball operations for the philadelphia 76ers find his job on the line when a bunch of anonymous twitter accounts are exposed. as the probe closes in on his wife, if she did it, should he take the fall? washing machine dying)
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that backfired bigly and confusingly. just before graduation, a senior at truman high school in independence, missouri, placed this add on craig's list. it offers the school for sale for less than $13,000 and lists such amenities as playing fields, central air, a nearby walmart and a huge parking lot for those looking to party. obvious joke, right? the worst you can say about it is that there are a lot of misspellings for a soon to be high school graduate, but that's not how his school chose to suspend it. quote, reason for sale, due to the loss of students coming up. in this era of rampant school shootings, the school chose to view this as a threat, but what that he meant was the school would be missing on the seniors graduating. the aclu took on his case but a
judge ruled in the school's favor and he did not get to participate in his diploma ceremony. was that the right call. you know jonathan turley. a professor of law at george washington university and a constitutional scholar. professor, i had to reread the ad three times because that line never jumped out at me. >> that's because you're clueless, you don't realize that al qaeda often their new tactic is to sell high schools at a discounted price. that's apparently the new terrorist threat in america. the problem with this, michael, is that it is not unique, as i mentioned on the blog. there is a series of cases now where the first response as opposed to the last response is to call police. in arizona you had a kid who was charged with 69 indecent exposure charges because of a prank photo he took with his football team. in missouri, you had a kid who faced criminal charges because he snuck the word "masturbate"
into the final draft of a year book. a kid in indiana was arrested because he snuck into school to but a blow up dahl in the girl's bathroom. we have this cya trend, everyone calls the police, gives kids a criminal record for things that used to be the subject of a student/parent meeting. that's what's so disturbing about this. the school says, look, we called police out of an abundance of caution. it was really sort of a shockingly sharp lack of humor that led to this. >> sounds like the delta house legacy is secure. let me ask you this, from a legal standpoint, so, okay, the aclu get involved. a tro is sought. what was the issue for the federal judge? >> well, here's the problem, michael, and you're familiar with this yourself. the supreme court has made a mess out of free speech for
students. and the issue for the judge was that the aclu said, look, this was not a threat. no logical being would view this as a threat of any kind. so he was being disciplined because it was embarrassing or annoying to the school. now, 1969, the court in really the high point of free speech rights for students said in a case called tinker that you can't discipline students for things that are not disruptive, things that are not really interfering with the school's mission. that, unfortunately, was the high point. after that, the supreme court continually rolled back on students' rights. the worst moment came ten years ago in a case called morris. the so-called bong hits for jesus case. this was a case where a kid standing outside of school, he hadn't even gone to school that day, held up a sign saying "bong hits fors jesus" as the olympic torch passed by and the supreme
court said, no, of course they can dis-pal can dis-palin that student. >> i'm laughing at it because i think all of the ones that you have identified are so obvious. i applaud the school's vigilance, but what they're lacking is common sense. they need somebody in the room, like you, professor turley who can say, my god, it's a joke. >> that's the terrible thing, not just that we have lost the sense of humor, but you're doing really rotten things to these kids. you're arresting them. you're giving them criminal records. in this case, the kid couldn't be at his graduation. that might seem like a trivial issue for some people, but it's not. that kid spent four years and wanted to graduate with his friends. a bunch of school officials decided that they were going to punish him because they were annoyed. that strikes me as violating a fundamental obligation you have to your students. and i think that the officials should be held accountable here. but nothing is going to happen until the public says, all right, look, there is a
difference between protecting our schools and doing this type of nonsense where our kids are being subject to arrests and police questioning. i mean, we can't surgically implant humor into school officials but we can hold them accountable. >> final question. is there anything on the horizon for the supreme court that could change this, the case law that you've cited? >> i got to tell you, i am not optimistic. look, i don't -- i'm not trashing this judge. the judge had the case precedent that the supreme court created, but even liberals on the court are not good on this issue. you know, sotomayor when she was a court of appeals judge signed on to a really notus case where she said a student could be disciplined for stuff she said on social media outside of the school. so there is this disconnect on the supreme court and the loss is free speech. we're raising our students, not only into this fish bowl of surveillance, but also in this
really sort of censorship-rich environment. what type of citizens are they going to become if they believe >> pro turley, thank you, ly? as always. >> thanks, michael. apologies for my sophomoric humor, but you should know what you're dealing with. i was suspended in the ninth grade for mooning. look it up, kids. let's check in on your tweets and facebook comments. what do we have, katherine? smerconish, perfect, perfect example of pc gone wild. over, you're absolutely right. i'm trying to be sympathetic to the school administrators, right? they don't want to be called on the carpet for some parent saying, and you didn't do anything about it. all the warning signs were there. that wasn't this case. i want to remind you to answer the survey question at smerconish.com. i'm told there is a ton of voting on it. i have no idea how this one's going to go. should samantha bee be fired for referring to ivanka trump as the
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so, you need a doctor or a new roof on your house. do you care whether the specialist you hire is a kindred political spirit? a lot of people seem to. it doesn't always help them get the best medical care or home repair. that was the topic of a recent study by four scientists at university college london. and a harvard law professor. quote, on political questions, many people are especially likely to consult and learn from those whose political views are similar to their own, thus creating a risk of echo chambers or information cocoons. as two of the authors explained in a "new york times" op-ed, people sought and followed the add voice of those who shared their political opinions on issues that had nothing to do with politics, even when they had all the information they needed to understand that this was a bad strategy. joining me now is one of the
co-authors, associate professor of cognitive neuro science at university college london. she's also the author of the book, "the influential mind: what the brain reveals about our powers to change others." doctor, this was a shape characteration task and people seemed to conflate publics and expertise for the task at hand. >> yes. good morning, michael. so what we found is that knowing about people's political orientation interferes with your ability to assess their expertise on unrelated domains, such as logic games or categorizing shape. as a result, people were more likely to seek information from politically like-minded on tasks that have nothing to do with politics, even when the evidence in front of them clearly showed the that those people were not the experts in the room and there is someone else that is better at the task. they would pass the information from them because they were politically different.
let me really quickly tell you what we did. so we had people play a game where they need to categorize shapes. they played the game with four other players online. they got feedback so they could really see who was doing well in the game and who wasn't doing well in the game. throughout the game, we also asked them political questions, for example, do you think immigrants are abusing the welfare system? they confirmed who is politically like-minded and politically different. then came the really important part. they played the game again, the shape game. we paid them for how well they were doing. importantly, they could pick who they wanted to learn from about shapes to help them out. people were more likely to click the politically like-minded who wasn't very good at shapes over the person who was very good at shapes but had different political views. >> how do you think that applies to the so-called real world. take me out of shape categorization and take me into the marketplace.
>> right. we think that it probably means that people are giving bonus points to those that are politically like-minded and penalizing those that are politically different. i think you can really see that from the comments "the new york times" op-ed. our piece really kind of triggered a national debate. over 1,000 comments to the op-ed. if you read those comments, you can see people have very, very strong views. on the question of whether you would go to a doctor who voted for the other party, there are a lot of people saying, no, i would absolutely not feel comfortable being treated by someone who voted for the other party. there are some people who say, well, it doesn't matter. and everyone have their own reasons why their answer is yes or no. although we didn't necessarily set out to -- go ahead. >> i was going to say -- a landscaper, you know, maybe it's okay to factor in politics. i would never do that, but, my god, if i'm looking for an oncologist, i would think i
would want the best oncologist, regardless of whether they're a liberal or a conservative. >> right. it's apparent that we're now living in a nation where the divide is so great, a large number of people are saying, no, i would not go to a doctor who voted for the other party. it really highlights that polarization it's probably affecting the hire ing decisions in almost every field. >> right and i would just close on this. i think it's an explanation as to why some feel a particular allegiance to my cable competito competitors. those on the left at msn. on the right at fox news. even if they recognized they're being fed information at odds with truth, they're still cool saying where they are. you get the final word. make it quick. >> right. i think also you know, on an individual level, what this means and not in the book, if
you want someone to listen and trust you, you have to find what you have in common with that person and we always have something in common. so once people believe they're like you in some kind of way, the more likely they are to trust and listen to you. >> dr. shallot, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you for having me, michael. >> still to come, your best and worst tweets and facebook comments. what have we got? smerconish, my wife and i changed our dentist because they proudly presented make america great hat on their counter. 45 represents hate so you and your business represent the same. really? so the dentist, hang on a sec d second. i can just visualize this. put that back up for a second. i'm so intrigue d with this. so the denis has a make america great again hat and you changed your dentist.
i get your beef. i think i'd want to know, does he clean your teeth? can he work the gums? that would be the way i would approach it. in a different category, i would say oh, okay, i'll aallow llow impact my think, but my dental care, eyes, it wouldn't impact my case. last call. should samantha b be fired for referring to ivanka as the c word? t-mobile. and get netflix included for the whole family. so you can get lost in space in your own backyard... or get pumped up for your grand entrance. only t-mobile lets you watch your favorite movies and shows in more places, without paying more. get an unlimited family plan with netflix on us. and right now at t-mobile, buy one samsung galaxy s9 and get one free.
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i'm feeling bold. i've made a prediction as to the outcome of the polls. should samantha b be fired for referring to ivanka trump with the c word? my prediction or the answer first? which one? tell me. prediction? okay. i say it will be very close within the march of error. this is not scientific. there is no margin of error. oh my god. was i wrong. oh well. 77% say no. 15,303. gang, you know how i say i don't see the result? you just found out that's true. what else came in? smerconish, your ninth grade mooning would surely land you on
the sex offender's registry. sad. do you know that it was captured on video and they made my mother identify me? they called my father and said we need to suspend him from school because he's exposed himself. my dad thought i came out of the men's room wearing like a london fog trench coat with nothing under it. by the way, i tell the whole story in my book, which came oout last week. what else? we have time for another one or two? i cannot believe that prediction. good friend of mine taking the playboy center fold to the chemistry table in class. he became a surgeon some years laterme later. i love that. one more or two more. smerconish, getting fired for your spouse's secret twitter account is like an uber driver
getting fired because his roommate doesn't have car insurance. spike, is it really? if you delve into the story, what you'll see is that the tweets seem to really mirror his thought process and other opinions he has expressed. which at first blush, makes me say well, it's him. and then you say well no, he lives with his spouse. they love each other, she knows all his viewpoints and so forth so she's therefore able the to speak for him. i don't know. i'll be very curious to see whether professionally, able to hang on. another one if we've got time for it. smerconi smerconish, i hire d someone si months ago without knowing their political views. i did make it clear we don't want political discussions in the workplace. do they know how to make wid jegets? if they bring politics in in a manner that's disruptive, then they got to go, but otherwise, i would like the dental question.
how well does he clean your teeth? one more. loving it. got time for spoeshl media today for a change. well, no more time? okay. remember, you can catch up with us anytime on cnn go and on demand. check out smerconish.com. s i'll see you next week. good evening. i'm van jones. welcome. we've got a powerful program tonight. we've got the hilarious star of the most watched sitcom, the big bang theory. four emmys, got a great play on broadway. a brand-new film coming out that's going to raise a lot of eye breauxes. jim parsons is in the building. got jim parsons. i love it. plus, we got another