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have to watch him in the morning, i was on noon day and i had to go to sleep at ni now i get to watch it live like the rest of you, he's got good news tonight. take it from here my handsome friend. >> but i also have tokz, i'm smiling because remember the last time i saw your wife and she said why aren't you nice to chris when he hands it over to you. i said, i can't hear him. i'll be extra nice to you next time i see your wife she wouldn't give my anything about it. >> smart move. >> it was great job my friend. welcome to prime time. >> thank you. >> thank you. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon thanks for joining us. robert mueller accused paul manafort of one tampering and wants to revoke or revive his
house arrest and send him to jail. it comes as men and women are tieing themselves up in knots try to distract from what's really going on here, the backtracking and flip flopping, it can be tempting to tune all of this out. you may find yourself saying, that's just trump, throwing your hands up. make no mistake all of this is par of the strategy here, flood the zone with crazy. enough crazy that you just might miss a really crucial moment, like this from the president today tweeting, as has been stated by numerous legal scholars i have the absolute right to pardon myself but why have i done that when i've done nothing wrong. the hitwitch hundred dollat led and others continues to the mid
terms. that is by definition putting himself above the law. that is absolutely what president trump is saying in that make to mistake about it. no matter how much sarah sanders tries to dance around it. >> does the president believe he is above the law? >> certainly, no one is above the law. >> the president wants you to be pardoning himself would be politics as usual. that's why he keeps repeating the false claim that the investigation is being run by democrats. and was appointed special counsel by rod rosenstein, president trump's own hand picked department attorney general. so, this is not politics as usual. this is a very crucial critical moment. no president has ever pardoned himself in the history of the united states. if president trump were to try it the case would almost
certainly go straight to the supreme court. then there are the mumble lies from the president's own legal about his role in dictating the response to his oldest son, trump tower meeting with russia. the president said in a letter in january to robert mueller obtained by "the new york times," last week that trump, quote, dictated a short by accurate response. attorney jay sekiyu low confirmed that in a statement to cnn. the statement in january letter reflects our understanding, but it does not reflect what sarah sanders said. >> that was written by donald trump jr. and i'm sure in consultation with his lawyer. that wasn't written di the president. >> the president didn't sign off on anything. the statement released by saturday was released by donald trump jr. i'm sure in
consultation with his lawyers. the president was not involved. the president was not involved in the drafting or issuing the statement, it came from dontrum on how to release that out. the president was not involved in that decision. >> he certainly didn't dictate but he weighed in and offered suggestion like any father would do. >> even today, sarah sanders refuse to explain the lies. >> you said, certainly didn't dictate a statement, i wonder if you can tell us the basis of your comment when you made that in august and do you think that still stand? do you retract that? >> one again this is a reference back to a letter from the outside counsel. i understand but it's also pertaining to aler from the president's outside counsel and therefore i can't answer and i would direct you -- >> what was your basis of saying it? >> i'm not going to get sbointo back and forth and i'd encounter you to reach out to outside
counsel. >> for a year the trump team lied about that statement. rudy giuliani insisting to chris you moe tonight that it wasn't a lie, it was a routine mistake. >> it was a miste, i swear to god it was a mistake. >> but what we have said again and again facts matter. the truth matters. the american people deserve the truth. i want to get right now to our breaking news with the mueller investigation tonight. sarah murry joins me. sarah, thank you for joining us. paul manafort appears to be in big trouble. what is team mueller alleging here? >> that's absolutely right. he has faced a number of charges related to financial crimes and failing to dloegs his lobbying work for foreign government. he insisted he's not guilty. the latest news where prosecutors alleged that paul
manafort has been tampering with witnesses. back in february, he has been facing charges. his business r, rick gates decided he's going to plead guilty. he's going to cooperate with the special counsel team and cooperate against manafort. after that, manafort decide he's going to reach out to a couple of witnesses in this case, prosecutors alleged, and try to get them on to the same page about their story. essentially trying to get them to say the only lobbying work they did was in europe not in the united states. the prosecutors say that was false, everyone knew that was false and manafort should not have been trying to tamper with witnesses. so, that could s big trouble for manafort. the prosecutors are asking that the court hear on this as soon as possible and paul manafort no longer allowed to stay under house arrest but instead sen to jail. we'll see how that plays out.
representatives for manafort did not have a comment for cnn. >> thank you, i appreciate that. i want to bring in chris -- senior politics editor at large. brian, he's the editor sental newspaper.lau lau laura coa as well senior prosecutors. good evening to you all. laura, mueller as not mendezing around. i want your take on this reporting and the seriousness of this allegation that manafort is witness tampering. >> that's a very very serious offense. we've been talking for better part of a year-and-a-half about the consequences of obstructing justice, b trying to get somebody to interfere with an ongoing investigation. if you tamper wit a witness you are trying to get somebody to give false testimony and mislead investigators, mislead prosecutors and mislead the court, all of which ares agai the american people and
american court system. it's egregious whether you already have somebody who by the grace of the court is allowed not to rema in jail pending the trial in july and one coming in september, and given the opportunity to be home on house attention and many opportunities that people are not given when they are considered to be alleged filings in our court of law. he was granted that ability to have lean yans and trying to commit crimes while he's out. it seems to boggle the mind that somebody facing serious charges will conduct themselves this way. this is somebody given the timing, very very scared and nervous that his right-hand man is willing to cooperate. and having to get his story straight, even if it meant violating the law potentially. >> and chris, listen, no matter what the folks around him, his representatives say, all we have to do is look at the president's tweets. he said yesterday as only one of
two people left to become president why would the fbi and department of the justice told me they were secretly investigating manafort on charges ten years old. should have told me. manafort came into the campaign very late and was with us for a short period of time. he represented manyers over the years but we should have been told that comey and the boys were doing a number on him and he wouldn't have been hired. >> does this say to you, that president trump had manafort on his mind this weekend? we don't hear the president speak about manafort all too often? and he came in very late, short period of time, come o >> okay. let's deal with -- you mentioned i don't want to take -- you mention facts matter. let's just deal with the facts here because there's a lot of misrepresentation in that, don. paul manafort was the campaign
chairman but effectively the campaign manager from about april 2016 until august 2016. he was brought in at a very critical moment in the campaign, it was an expected delegate fight between donald trump and ted cruz, who amazingly had emerged and establishism alternative to donald trump. he ranhe entire campaign during that critical period of time and was given a lot of credit, as i recall, personally hearing from people, giving manafort a tonight of credit be he put down that instruction. the reason he was pushed out is largely because ivanka trump and jared kushner did not like him, get along with him, neither did donald trump jr. the other piece he is that, i don't understand why donald trump believes he should be brought in to ongoing fbi investigations.
he's aren't charges that are ten years old, they deal with serious financial laelallegatiof wrong doing with ukraine that was tied to rick gates and paul manafort. if anything, donald trump should have done his own vetting -- >> you just took the word out of my mouth. >> he hired him. paul manafort has been dealing with the ukraine prior to donald trump, he's right become that. why did donald trump not say, wait a minute, let's do even a tiny bit of google searching and findhat out. >> actually, because no one -- they were in a position where no one wanted to work with him so they took who could -- here's the result of what you have because of that. this is one hot mess of an administration. tonight, you have rudy giuliani standing like john by lieu she in a blues' brothers say, my god it wasn't my fault. i was there when they first tried to defend what theid
tonight about the letter that was dictated to his son, break that down, don. the information came from somewhere. they were all saying the same information. so, either they independently lied or they went to the president, the president told them a story and they spread that story and -->> it was a falsehood. >> it isn't that difficult. >> giuliani was with chris moments ago. watch this. >> somebody's lying about this rudy, and i don't understand why. >> i don't think anybody's lying. i think a mistake was made at the very early stages of investigation. i don't mean investigation, very helicopterly stages of a representation by a lawyer which happens all the time. i don't think it's a significant fact. the most important thing is there's no testimony undath to that effect. when a written statement was put in it was completely accurate. >> a lie is a mistake usually. they repeated and repeated, didn't it go on for almost a
year? so. >> and the defense of that is it was a mistake theyidn't give complete information. it wasn't that they completely -- they soed this bill of goods since the first time sarah walked out and sold it to us and they defended it -- >> let's think about the logic here, they're saying the president didn't do it. >> the president wld know if he did. >> exactly. certainly the people who were aboard air force one when he reportedly did it, the president's son, don junior would know. i don't understand this about, oh this is the information we had at the time, it was a mistake. it is a flat out lie. >> it's a flat out lie, they were trying to defend themselves. so, you know what, rudy is kind of telling the truth here, they soldiered some blarney, now that
they're forced to tell the truth. the president my believe he's not above law, the way he's spinning it is, i'm within the law to say he's above the law. >> hold that thiegt i got to get to the break. stick around. when we come back, bill clinton speaking out tonight addressing his own tone deaf mm monica lewinski scandal. plus the first photos of melania trump in 24 days. we have a sighting. more on that coming up. flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most pills onlock one. flonase. i had a very minor fender bender tonight! in an unreasonably narrow fast food drive thru lane. but what a powerful life lesson.
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. president bill clinton speaking out about some comments earlier about the monica lewinski scandal and whether he owes her an apology. back with me, chris, brian and laura. the former president addressed fensive answer on nbc news this morning, where he defended how he handled the scandal. here he's tonight. watch this. >> the truth is the -- i got out of the collar, because of the the way the questions were asked. the suggestion was that i never apologized for what caused all the trouble for me 20 years ago. so, first one is, i did.
i did it then and i did it now, i apologize for my family, for monica lewinski and her family, to the american people. the second is i respect t mooe too movement. >> laura, is that a way to clean up his statement? >> i think that it did something, maybe not completely because what he fails to recognize is that while he said that 20 years ago got him in a great deal of trouble, the truth of the matter is he has thrived over last 20 years and monica lewinski has had the live of a her met and shamed and forced to wear a red scarlet letter. i think it needs to be addressed not only from him but how society has treated her and gone after her and her behavior and accountability. and the way they questioned her in the way they have not done so with bill clinton, the former president of the united states.
there is a reckoning to come. i would have been more satisfied had he addressed what i thought was the most obvious reason why, a married man would not have addressed a woman who was his mistress 20 years ago with a phone call or perhaps with some conciliatory flowers. that was themselves, perhaps not to him. 20 years later we're still wondering why he won't address the fact that there was some about the viation of her. she also has important accountability to reckon with, i suspect she's done so in the life she's led now. >> i told chris exactly what you said. now she's out and about now. she pretty much goes people still look at her, she walks down the street, she's still very famous and she has security and all of those thing. i remember back when this, not long after happen, i'd see her here and her friends would be very protective of her. she's try to hide with her hair
or hat covering her face. it must have been awful for her and still till this day. how could bill clinton -- >> i think he still sounded a >> how could he have not been ready for that question? brian go on. >> there's always a saying in washington, it seems worse than a democrat. certainly his behavior and trumps, you kind of hear a little of each other in there, it's gotten progressly worse over the years. you have to wonder why they're tone deaf to this. they're tone deaf to any criticism. like chris brought up earlier, it's not the crime, it's the cover up. that was the case with bill clinton too. he got out there and said, i did no have sexual relationship with that woman, monica lewinski and obviously he did. it's always the cover up and lie that gets you in trouble. it seems like politics in d.c. just love to do it.
the real problem is, with all the lying goes on, i hard something tonight that rings so true, it's that when you lie so often, it's not that people begin to believe the lies, it's that they don't know what the truth is and that makes them easier to lead. >> chris, let me ask you this, you said the only thing worse as a republican is a democrat. this is what some progressives are saying, they're not saying it publicly. why are you not -- you know, why are you beating up bill clinton, this was 20 years ago, we have someone in the white house now accused of similar things, what do you say to that? >> i say that donald trump's -- the allegations against donald trump as it relates to his behavior with women, do not allow every democrat ever to get a free pass. if it is something that we don't condone for republicans it
should be something we don't condone for democrats. i hear this all the well, donald trump lies always. therefore we can say anything about him and it's justified. i always ask people, is that what you'll tell your kids. whatever you're doing you can do it worse because they did it. >> so, there's no truth in any of that? >> i -- no -- look, donald trump -- excuse me bill clinton. bill clinton is doing a book tour with james paterson on a book that they wrote. he agrees to sit down for an interview, rightly the reporter does not agree what questions are on limits and what questions are off limits. bill clinton needs to have a good answer for that. >> absolutely >> that is not craig melvin, the nbc reporter who ask the questions, t not his fault. he gets to ask the questions, bill clinton answers the question. we should focus more on what i believe to be the grace and
dignity that monica lewinski in the last decade or so has handled herself. she has reemerged her voice against bullying. >> with grace. i got to go -- >> peace about this from last month. >> monica lewinski e lernling from the house of gaslight in the "me too." i want to talk to you byes about the eagles, we'll discuss that lair on. n we come back, president trump says he has the right to pardon himself. his lawyer rudy giuliani telling cnn, moments ago, he can't be from theed f prrpted for anythi. i'll ask clapper, the intelligence team head, next.
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could ab,nn national intelligence, james clapper. are we in a crises? >> well, don, know on coming inere tonight, i was trying to come up with some catchy phrase that would describe this president. i'm out of catchy phrases. wonders never cease, it seems like there'set another episode in this continuing saga. >> it's -- >> to answer your question, i don't know whether there's a crises yet. i don't -- it doesn't feel like it yet. i think if special counsel mueller concludes his
investigation, and, you know, cites the president i some for some criminal act, then i think we could be confronting a crises if the president carries out what was clearly on his mind. i mean, i have to wonder whether this is just a set up for what he may considered an inevitably development at some point where he will pardon himself. then sort of prepping the battlefield, as they say in the military. >> you think this coming from his legal team anticipating a show down with the special counsel? >> yeah, i think so. you know, this is -- the president and his team have gotten a lot more aggressive i think, and this is occasioned by i think the edition of rudy giuliani, who is i think much more a pr type than he is
contributing his legal talents. so, yeah, i detect a definite change in tone and message since he came aboard. >> can i get your reaction on the news tonight about paul manafort being accused on special counsel of witness tampering? >> well, i think he's in deep trouble before, now it would appear he's in very deep trouble if -- if what i understand is in the rooting that was put out about this from the special counsel's office. so -- and i don't see how this can possibly be well for the president, giving manafort's at one point a pretty close relationship, and his management of the campaign. >> so, director clapper, this is some of what we heard from the white house today. here it is. >> does the president believe that he is above the law?
>> certainly not. the president hasn't done anything wrong. >> i guess the question is, the president believe the framers interventionhere he could pardon himself, where the president could be above the law. >> certainly the constitution lays out the law. the president hasn't done anything wrong and we feel very confident in that process. >> you just said it's not that clear. doeshe president believe he is above the law? >> certainly no one is above the law. >> so, does president trump believe he's above the law? >> well, i think he probably does. for me, he seems to more and more be assuming the trappings of the king, of an auto accurate. you know, everyone must comply with the law except for one. i frankly don't know how the media members, who frequent the house, i don't know how they
tolerate listening to, what i come to call the drippings of misinformation. >> i have to get your reaction, these reporters caution up with senator ted cruz asking whether the president can pardon himself. 18-second pause before answering. watch this. >> the president can pardon himself, would you agree with that? >> would you agree with that? >> that is not a constitutional issue i've studied so i with withhold judgment at this point. >> so other reporters are speaking out. senator cruz, 18 seconds, the
silence is deafing, what does that say to you? >> to me that's em me mask of republican leadership who tends to remain silent about these, to me, assaultings on our institutions and our values. >> thank you director clapper. i appreciater time as always. >> thanks, don. the super bowl champions won't be headed to the white house after all. why the president uninvited themselv them. that's next. your social securitr on any one of thousands of risky sites. that sounds super helpful. how much is it? well, if you have a discover card, it's free. no way! yes way! we just think it's important for you to be in the know. all right! hey... ewww! everything ok? being in the know is very good. yeah, it is. ooo don't shake! don't shake! ahhh!
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breaking news, president trump calling an audible cancelling scheduled visit of the super bowl, philadelphia eagles to the white house. quote, the philadelphia eagles aren't able to come to the white house with their full team to be celebrated tomorrow. they disagree with their president because he insist they proudly stand for their national anthem everything hand on heart. i want to bring in brenden boil
of pennsylvania. congressman, thank you very much. your recentlily from philly? >> i'm sorry. >> were you recently from philadelphia? >> i am born and raised in philadelphia and live in philadelphia at the moment. i'm in harris berg, pennsylvania our state capital because i was here pushing legislation with my brother. i'm also a life long eagles' fan. >> i wanted to establish your connection to police chief and the eagles. with your interpretation of the president abruptly cancelling this visit tomorrow? >> the fact that i'm a philadelphia yan and eagles' fan. it's one more way the president has changed the norms. every president republican or democrats would welcome the team if they won the championship whether it's the super bowl, stanley cup. that would be the i know of it. i still are the president reagan hosting the red skins and throwing a football.
that's the norm. and yet, yet again donald trump has found a way to divide people and make it about himself instead of the championship team and his fans. >> this isn't the first time that players don't want to g to the white house. there a lot of time players have gone against a number of administrations not going to the white house because they disagree with them politically. they didn't uninvite them to the white house they continued and celebrated with the people who showed up. here's what you tweeted, you even make aionship team visiting the white house about you. what is wrong with you seriously? what condition do you have? why do you say that? >> i think the president is a narcissist. i'm not a psychologi, i understand that professionals have a limitation on publicly diagnoses someone. as a layperson who has not a psychiatrist, the fact that donald trump seems to be such a
tin secure human being, the fact that he makes something about himself is really bizarre. if this was one example it would be one thing. but this is hundreds of examples in the way donald trump has broken the norm and made something that should be a nice thing and a way to bring people together. instead just an opportunity to make it about himself. >> this comes on the heels of the nfl ruling that requires nfl players to stand during anthem or stay in the locker resuoom. what do you want to say to the players? >> i admire the facts that a number of the eagles, chris long has made a stand on social injustice. one of the players played for free this eireear, donated their entire salary to charity. it's interesting about standing for the national anthem. i could be wrong on this but i don't recall any of the eagle players taking a knee this year.
so, if the president's trying to make it about that, i don't think the eagles are necessarily the best example. other than the fact that they've made strong stands as individual forndividuals for justice causes. >> you're absolutely right about that. i want to talk with that about the panel. jake tapper spoke with a player and nfl source who noticed not one of the players on the super bowl winning eagles took a knee all regular season. so, his statement doesn't add up. thank you, i appreciate it congressman boil. >> okay. thank you, don. >> i want to bring in charley dent fromnnsylvan also scott jennings and by karrie sellers. so, good evening. you heard the congressman there. i'll start with a congressman now, you're from pennsylvania, eagles' fan. what do you think? >> well, brenden boil's a good friend. i think the president of the united states knew barn well when he invited the eagles to
the white house celebration that some would not attend. dis-inviting them at this late hour seems a bit contrived a political stunt. to an's eagles game this year, i didn't see anyone take a knee. i happen to think the players taking a knee was not the right thing to do but they certainly had the right to do it. there are better ways to protest. you can stand in the shadow of william penn at city hall. that'll be a better way to hold a rally and take about the issues you're concerned about. i never thought doing this at the game was helpful to the football players. >> bakr rhie you think this is on the strategy of president. nfl network reports they were planning to send i think around 10 teem to the white house
ceremony. you're saying he's doing it to divide the country? >> yeah, not only is he trying to divide the country he cancelled a party that nobody's coming to anyone. we talked about the fact that none of these players neeld. malcolm jenkins raised a fist in protest. country long donated his entire salary to chart bl causes. the president's thinking is not that different from congressman dent and that's unfortunate. i think people made this issue out to be something different than what it is. colin kaepernick, eric reed, malcolm jenkins all these players are protesting police brutality in this country. they're not protesting the flag, the military, the national anthem, they're protesting injustices that happened to african-americans. the irony in saying that someone needs to find a better way to protest is simply like saying that the four kids, february 1st, 1960 at the county
shouldn't have sit in they should have found some other way to protest. or maybe dr. king and don lewis shouldn't have stood across the bridge because they're blocking traffic. malcolm jenkins, the philadelphia eagles are leaders in that. i'm proud of them and any player that wants to take a knee that could afford to take a knee should take a knee because that's the only way they're going to get change in this country. >> let me ask you this scott, i'm looking at over a list of player not only from the nfl but over different sports teams who have refused to go to the white house, this isn't the first time. they didn't cancel the ceremony. is there anything presidential about dis-inviting the super bowl champions from the white house because some of the players disagree with you? >> i think this was not a handful of players that were cancelling. i think what the white house was upset about, if the news media is right, fewer than ten players
were planning not to attend. that was an attempt to try to embarrass the president that they disagree with. that's their right. i don't think anybody should be compelled to go to an event that they want to go to. i don't think the president is compelled to have an event that he don't want to have if he's going to be comparesed. what i find interesting about this ordeal is this is the first sort of trump/nfl interaction. at the time we thought this was trump getting a victory over the nfl, but clearly he's not happy with the nfl, it wasn't enough for him. he's taking it a step further. i think largely because he thinks every time this is in the news it's a winner. he thinks the short-term pain of making everyone in pennsylvania or philadelphia is worth the long-term gain of this being a political winner for him. >> the first part of your statement you said -- or your answer, you said it's an attempt to deliberately embarrass the
president. because you disagree with someone politically. why is it embarrassing the president? why is it again about president and about them disagreeing him or their issues not being paid attention to? >> oh, look, i think they're perfectly well within their rights to not want to show up and make a statement against the president they disagree with not showing up. but, on the same token the president is well within his rights to not hold an event which he feels people are deliberately trying to embarrass him, which is clearly how he feels. fewer than ten players were not going to show up. everybody's allowed to cancel this -- >> they were saying a delegation of ten. >> players cancel theirs. >> they were saying a delegation of ten. they said they had a couple of meetings to discuss the invitation. not many players wanted to attend, the numbers were low. but the president taking an issue of players who take a knee
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>> president trump slamming the door op the super bowl champion philadelphia eagles. and he has canceled their scheduled visit at the white house. eagles issuing a statement saying it's been incredibly thrilling to celebrate our first super bowl championship, watching the entire eagles community come together has been an inspiration. we are truly grateful for all the support we have received and we are looking forward to continuing our preparations for the 2018 season. great statement. congressman dent, i want to play this. this is a former eagles player torrey smith said on my show back in february about not attending the white house ceremony. here it is. >> if i told you i was invited to a party by an individual that i believe is sexist, this individual has said offensive things against many minority
groups and i don't feel comfortable with it. my individual also called my peers and friends s.o.b.s. you would understand why i don't want to go to that party. why is it any different when this person has a title president of the united states. >> so the eagles' response was certainly showed uiting. he had a very good point there, don't you think, congressman? >> i do. i think torrey smith made a very fair point that he objects to many of the president's comments or behavior. and he felt that he didn't want to attend. i respect that. he's very honest about . he was very civil about it and i have a lot of respect for the man. i think it was a fair statement. >> espn's jamel hill tweeted this. she said, so it's not new news several of the eagles were participate i participating weren't interested
in going to the white house. this was a political setup by trump. >> no doubt about it. cultural wars are only successful when we're stupid enough to fall for them. he sends these dog whistles out to his base. he sends these dog whistles out to various voters. this is trump bullying the nfl owners, the nfl owners look at these players as chatle. they tell them when to stand, tell them when they can stand, what they can't stand for, where they can stoond. these players are saying i have a platform. i am no one's piece of chatle. i can raise my voice and express my first amendment rights like anyone else. this isn't the first team to do this. the goltden state warriors said the hell with donald trump, too. and they went to the national african-american history museum instead. so you're starting to see players of color, players of conscious, even chris long come
together and raise their voices like mohammuhammad ali did. and we all praised muhammad ali because they forget the revolutionary he was. >> in t time, in the moment he wasn't necessarily celebrated. but history has been very kind to him and people see him for the hero that he was and is. listen, this all comes, scott, on the heels of the nfl seeming to appease the president by ruling that teams must stand during the national anthem or stay in the locker room. trump got what he wanted. why is he adding more fuel to the fire? >> two things .i think he felt like he was being set up to have an event where he was going to be embarrassed at his own venue and he wasn't willing to do that. number two, i think he feels like every time this is in the news, this whole issue of standing for the national anthem, that it's a political winner. what i fear for the president is that i actually believe he may be on the cusp of locking in some gains with the
african-american community based on his work on criminal justice reform, based on some of the people on this point of view on certain issue, based on ment dr african-americans. i fear these kinds of issues are making those in roads that he could be on the cusp of making otherwise. we'll see if the president is right. he thinks it's a long-term political victory. i think he may be stunting his growth with the african-american community when he been trying to lock in some gains by going to the well one more time on this issue. >> if you saw bacari's face, he does not agree with anything at all you say. >> no, no. i wanted to get the last word. >> fly eagle, fly. come on. >> i'm a former philadelphiian. all i have to say is i don't necessarily agree with this, but the players are certainly welcome to come to the white house and celebrate the american
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