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plus, president trump disinvites the super bowl champion philadelphia eagles who were supposed to attend the white house ceremony tomorrow. the president has repeatedly and publicly criticize not standing for the anthem. he's called them sons of bitches. he aggressively lobbied owners to force players to stand for the anthem. he's gone so far to say the owners should fire players who protest. now the president is fly claiming the eagles players don't want to stand for the anthem. that's right, falsely claiming they don't want to stand. i'll explain that. joining me now on the phone is the mayor of philadelphia, jim kenney. the president just tweeted this, the philadelphia eagles football team was invited to the white house. unfortunately only a small number of players decided to come and we canceled the event. staying in the locker room for the playing of our national anthem is as disrespectful to our country as kneeling, sorry. here's the thing. none of the philadelphia players
stayed in the locker room. none of them took a knee for the season. so what he's talking about, that is, in fact, a lie as well. >> well, there's no one more disrespectful to this country than the president of the united states, which is a sad t say, but it's true. >> you say that -- and it's tough to say that. before what you said about, you said it's embarrassing, he didn't want to be embarrassed. don't you think it's tough to say the words you just said but you have to because they're true? it's true? >> well, first of all, i'm glad he disinvited us. or disinvited the team, because we won't have any lingering issues coming into next season. so i think it's very important. didn't want some players to show up and others not to. and have it enter into the locker room and, you know, keep us back from repeating a super bowl champion. so i don't really care what he does. the guy talks about being patriotic. he avoid the draft five times. in vietnam.
and philadelphia has -- it's a city that has two high schools. one is thomas edison high school who lost 64 members of their class in vietnam pen and the other is father judd high school that lost 27 members of their class. he could have been patriotic back then as opposed to this sham of an issue relative to the national anthem. i stand for the national and cover my heart because i'm a privileged white male and i have a reason to stand. there are other people in this country who have not experienced the same level of fairness and same level of issues that i have. and they have a right to show their displeasure. and that's what the first amendment is all about. and if he doesn't want to accept the first amendment or other amendments, that's on him. but i'm proud of our players. they're extremely -- they're wonderful athletes and great in the community. they volunteer, they raise money.
they're all of them, malcolm and nathan and chris long and carson wentz. i'm very happy that they're super bowl champions and they don't have to go. >> this is the question i want to ask you. you had some tough words, your first answer here. you released a statement saying disinviting them from the white house only proves that our president is not a true patriot. but a fragile ego maniac obsessed with crowd size and afraid of the embarrassment of throwing a party to which no one wants to attend. tell me about that. >> the truurts. that's the case. it's been happening since he was swin. every day is a new day in dysfunction. i hope we can recover from it and i'm looking toward to when he's not there to get our country back to where it should be. that could be 2018, it could be 2020. hopefully it won't be 20246. it's just an embarrassment. i'm proud of our eagles and i'm
proud they're not going. >> mayor kenney, thank you for your time. >> take care, don. you're not a former philadelphian, you're always a philadelphian. >> i love my city. i bought my first home in that city and i will never forget it. monroe between 2nd and 3rd. >> queen village. take care, man. take care. >> i want bring in cnn contributor frank bruney also joe lockhart, the executive vice president of communications and public affairs and former u.s. attorney harry litman. and cnn commentator amanda carpenter, author of "gaslighting america -- why we love it when trump lies to us." let me start with you, joe and frank. you're the former communications ficer for the nfl. the mayor did not hold back. what do you think? they booed santa claus one year. it's hard to hold punches there.
let me try to be positive. the eagle the represent the best of the nfl. malcolm jenkins has been the leader of this group that will now have $150 millio0 million at their disposal to help do criminal justice reform and social justice. chris long donated every paycheck, 16 game checks to charity as a way of making a statement. carson wentz, $500,000 for haiti in the aftermath of the earthquake. to them, to donald trump, they're sons of bitches. and they're that because they don't kneel to him. this is an imperial presidency. putting the democracy at risk. there isn't just today's example. we have four of them today. it's just this evening's example. >> what do you think? >> i think the major was really eloquent and speaks for a lot of americans, and i think joe is right, there's only one metric donald trump uses above all
others to judge people. that's how readily and expansively. he is so demonized nfl players and done so in such an gratuitous way and some of them didn't want to come. his response is okay, none of you come. of the united states to be the t biggest person ithe room, not the smallest person in the room. and donald trump scuttles that expectation every day every way. >> don't hold your breath. bill clinton is trying to clarify his tone deaf comments about mon cue lewinsky tonight. here's what he originally said to nbc. >> looking back through the lens of me too now, do you think differently? or feel more responsibility? >> no. i felt terrible then.
anticipate i came to grips with it. >> did you ever apologize to her? >> no. yes. nobody believes that i got out of that for free. i left the white house $16 million in debt. but you typically have ignored gaping facts in this and i bet you don't even know them this was litigated 20 years ago. 2/3 of the american people sided with me. they were not interested in that. i had a sexual harassment policy when i was governor in the '80s. i had two women chief of staff when i was governor. women were overrepresented in the attorney general's office in the '70s. for their percentage of the bar. i've had nothing but women leaders in my office since i left. >> you didn't apologize to her? >> i have not talked to her. >> do you feel like you owe her an apology? >> no. i -- i do not -- i've never
talked to her. but i did say publicly on more than one occasion that i was sorry. that's very different. the apology was public. >> not good. >> no, i think he made a mistake there that he doesn't make that often. and it's one that he see our current president doing all the time. which was not separating the two things. he was treated unfairly by the republicans. it was a partisan attack to remove him from office. newt gingrich famously said when asked why are you doing this? he said because we can. he con flated that with the apologize for at the timid and in doing that, he undermined the apology. it was a mistake. and i think he did try to clean it up later in the day. >> i was shocked the was not prepared for that question. maybe that's him thinking he was prepared.
it is such an easy answer. this was a regret every single day of my life. i'm sorry to monica lewinsky and ly. if she's listening i would like to apologize to her i want to reach out to her but haven't done it out of respect or something. it's so easy to answer that que. >> again, i think, as we've talked about, that answer is diametrically opposed to at the time what the president did as president. which was not focus on himself, not focus on the victimization of the president and focus on the country's work. and you can see why, you know, when the answer coout that way it's not effective at all. >> i got hot under the collar
the way the questions were asked. i think what was lost were the two points that i made that are important to me. the suggestion was that i had never apologized for what caused all the trouble for me 20 years ago. so the first point is i did. i meant it then and i meant it now. i apologized to my family. and the american people. before a panel of mip stnisters the white house. i did that. i benefited. i meant it today. i live with it all the time. the second is that i support the me too movement and i think it's long overdue. i've always tried to support the decisions and policies that i've
advanced. >> is that clarification enough? >> he cleaned it up a little. i heard a lot of "i" "i" "i." the question was about someone who was a 21ear-old intern at the time. he attached the reporter, he cited public opinion polls, 2/3 of the earn manies are with me and he had a pity party. whom does that remind you of? >> donald trump. >> i don't need to be reminded of donald trump with a man whom i have respect for, but didn't do his best today. >> bill clinton still thinks it's all about him. and there's no compassion for what he put, not only monica lewinsky through, but his entire party through. >> and the country.
>> she was gas lit, depicted as a narcissistic, obsessive loony toon because of something that happened with president clinton. ave her gifts.fair. he invited her to the oval office. and still to this day, people will say well, monica lewinsky chased around that president and made him do it. no. he was the most powerful, arguably person in america. she was at her first job. when she left she got manited with a whole group of people. who wanted to pin something on the president. i want a retelling of monica lewinsky's story. she may be a victim. she's not innocent. she was a grown woman. she did know what she was doing, but everything that happened to her after, think about it. she was 21 years old. lured her into the ritz carlton in arlington, virginia, where fbi agents were waiting to lure her into a hotel room and threaten her mother with jail time.
she has a story that she has never fully gotten to tell. because as she wrote in the "vanity fair" articl she's still processing this. she has ptsd. she went into hiding. and bill clinton still got to be president. ey, he was em peached in the house, but man, i think monica suffered a lot more. >> i agree. she was a grown woman. but there was a huge power imbalance >> he was commander-in-chief. she was an intern on her first job. >> we have two living presidents who have been investigated for obstruction of justice, both have also been accused of sexual misconduct by multiple women. bill clinton and donald trump, are they both more alook than democrats and republicans would like to admit? >> it's really interesting. i recognize he was tired.
and off his game. he missed the basic lesson of movement. oh, i had two women chiefs of staff when i was attorney general. it was like einste gave a lot o causes. it misses the point of the real but i actually hear the i see a contrast here. to me, clinton was caught off-guard and was a liit trying to have it both ways in the way he sometimes does, sort of talking in half measures.and pedal to the metal sort of grievance and defiance you get from trump who, all his supporters know, for example, that of course, he had sexual relations with multiple women. but he's chosen to play it in such a pugnacious way that he's kind of retained his base. and you wonder if that is more effective. neither is a great model for
american youth or america. but i was struck that clinton tried to tiptoe a little where trump has been a real bull about it. and has in some ways succeeded on his terms. >> joe, i know you want to respond. >> i don't disagree that it was not a good interview and not a good performance and he messed but the comparison falls here, whelt very strongly at the time that he was being unfairly treated. he never fired an fbi director. he never publicly shamed his attorney general.he never ridic intelligence community. he never tried to undermine vast swaths of the government in order to protect himself. he did just the opposite. he kept his mouth shut and he went about doing his job. i don't think the compare sonls hold up.push back a little bit. i do agree with you, joe, when it came to the investigation, bill clinton did conduct himself more honorably, but i cat forget about things like bimbo .
james carville saying well, if you drag a dollar through a trailer park, who knows what you'll find. hillary clinton dismissing questions as a vast right-wing conspiracy. so i do think some of the precedent happening denying the accusaide some of the frame work that's being used today. ead.>> don, can i make a quick point? in general, look, both nixon and clinton felt constrained by a sense of the dignity and the importance of the institution of the office. trump has zero of that. besides agreeing with the whole litany of the really singular sense sins he's committed. he's shown in his whole approach no respect at all or worry at all about the status of the presidency. even nixon and certainly clinton were difnt t >> listen, we talked about this longer than we were going to. but i want to thank you, it was a fascinating conversation and deserved to be talked about.
>> president trump thinks he is a king. and if you want to read it, go to the nk mes. a fascinating piece. i wanted to spend more time on it, but unfortunately we're out of time. thank you all. we havevelopments tell you . first lady melania trump who had not been seen publicly for the past 24 days attended an official white house event with president trump today. the event was ivate east room reception for more than 40 gold star military families. a person inside the room told cnn the president made a light hearted joke about the first lady's extended absence from public view saying the media was asking where's melania. in a statement, the first lady said it was a privilege to welcome the military families to the white and she thanked them and military members more broadly for their service. glad she dhat. but it is a legitimate question. we have not seen the first lady in 24 days. it's not just the media. it would be common sense to ask how she's doing. where is she.
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messages don't work if the receiving participant is go i think to go to the prosecutors. surely, donald trump's campaign manager uilty and his activities show that. he's trump campaign's manager. third, manafort clearly knew he was being surveyed. he knew that from before yet he still continued to try to disrupt witnesses, to try to get them to testify in his favor. so he made a calculation, which suggests to me that the truth is scarier for him than the possibility that he may be put away for obstruction of justice. and i think the big question now is will he plea, facing now? clear jail time. and is the plea offer still available to him? we don't know if mueller would be wo take it at this stage. that's my quick takeaways. >> according to today's filing, man to fort repeatedly contacted two people who worked and
previously assisted in his lobbying efforts for ukrainian politicians. he called and texted one of the people encrypted messages. the text said we should talk. i have made clear that they worked in europe. do you think that this means that mueller's team habeen able to decipher encrypted messages? or the recipient of the text shared them? >> i would go with the latter. what i think is so illustrative of this moment is this is human that fort's business and operations must have been running for years and to think he wouldn't stop this after all that's happened and after all the people that's come forward. having watched person a, which is to be declared maybe as a known agent of russia, and having his side kick gates also go ahead and start to work with the special counsel. it's just stunning he would continue to take these actions, he would continue to mess alk in this way.
when he's been met at every singenge. i think the important thing to note here is every time we've seen an increase in the president talking about maybe i can pardon myself or maybe i'll just close down the investigation, we see an increase in pressure on people all the way around him. and it's not surprising to me at we see this pop-up here today with manafort in terms of the mueller team actually taking action. >> so i have to ask you then, does it make it more likely that paul manafort will or could flip? >> i don't think so. it seems that paul manafort has a lot more to lose outside of confinement than inside of confine .ment. i don't know what is holding him to where he thinks he should fight this a you would the way out. but he seems to see there's no real way going back at this point. i can't imagine him flipping now that he's fought it in this direction. one thing that's really important is as this trial is coming up here this summer. as we see the president who seems to not want to do the interview, the pressure is going
to pick up on everyone who is connected to the trump team going all the way back to 2016. they are going to push for more indictments. going to push on more witnesses, going to do more evidence gathering to build up a stronger and stronger case. while the president says we need to wrap up this investigation, he's the one that's delaying the investigation. and he's also the up with that's going to add fuel to the fire if they want to push this investigation forward. >> the president tweeted twice yesterday about manafort. oh, he arrived late, he dependent stay a long time. he complete lid down played it. he doesn't tweet about manafort often. which is not true, he was very essential to the campaign. do you think he knew this was coming? >> he may have in terms of whether his lawyers got some sort of information regarding mueller's investigation of the trump team. we often say that mueller doesn't talk, right? which is exactly what he should not do.
he should not talk. but i actually think that trump speaks for him, that trump has some idea who's being talked to. he certainly knows his friends are being communicated with. this tweet, like a week ago about pretty young people, you know, one might think that that has to do with hope hicks and what he might know about hope hicks. so i do think in a weird way that trump sort of channels mueller's case in ways that muler is unwilling to because he's a professional prosecutor. it does say something about trump at this stage. trump has one job in terms of this investigation which is be quiet, right? essentially be quiet. >> good luck with that. >> he can't do that. i just can't imagine that he will ever talk to mueller. "the washington post" is reporting today that his prep is not ideal, i guess is the right way to say it. he can't control himself. >> i want to get something -- i want to get your new book in re, t. it's called messing with the enemy. you write about how terrorists
and criminals can use soushl media to identify weaknesses. does this aid our adversariries? >> the central ten net is how social immediate i can't have populism has really overtaken the establishment. when i've been tracking all sorts of adversaries all line, it's remarkable how the social media powered populist movements have taken over the establishment, whether it's the islamic state taking over kwael or if you look in the political context, we see the trump train overtaking the gop accomplishment. -- establishment. if you win the crowd, if you enforce your base and you conti president was doing today, he is setting the agenda. he's trying to win in public, rather than win in the courts. and if he can win that and state that narrative, he'll capitalize in bullet points what his
talking points are, how he's going to try to undermine the investigation. if he can do that successfully, he thinks he can win. what's been fascinating is how this populist movement on social mehas reallyed people and really restored in them a new set of powers that transcends even a physical nation. it's a social media nation that they're looking to rule. >> thanks very much. "messing with the enemy." make sure you pick up a copy. is the president's cancellation of the philadelphia eagles just another example of how the president is dividing us by race? we'll discuss.
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the philadelphia eagles visit to the white house due to the controversy of the nfl players kneeling during the anthem. the president continues to spread this false narrative that the players are kneeling to disrespect the flag when they're actually protesting police brutality. is the president's handling of this an example of how he's using race to divide? >> certainly, don. when you look at how the president has handled race since he got into office it's about equivocating and spinning the narrative the way he wants to. so in this case, you have players who kneel or do other forms of protest. we're doing this to protest police brutality and injustice against african-americans. obviously there's a lot of trump supporters who see this as disrespect of the flag and the military. he often takes these instances to say hey, look at these players. they're disrespecting our country. and he's the one standing up for america. essentially you get, again, with the philadelphia eagles. this is an event that they've been planning for a while.
and on the eve of it, trump puts out a very strong statement about questioning the nationalism of the player, questioning their respect for america. and in that ds talking directly about the racial issue that people want to talk about, that the players want to talk about. instead he makes it more of a where he had meat issue, more an issue that plays to his base. i want to point to your piece. in the "new york times". >> you talk about the nfl players kneeling. mr. trump has emerged as a leading critic of the practice by some nfl players of kneeling dur the national anthem. as a way to protest racial discrimination in policing. mr. trump personally and successfully lobbied some team owners who earlier this month created a new anti-kneeling rule. he said his objection to the protest had nothing to do with race. it was rather about respect for our country. and respect for for our flag.
so the president says it's nothing to do with race. but it has nothing to do with race. does it? >> well, that's the thing. the underlying issue is definitely about race because that's what players were initially doing for for. ufr predominantly african-american players. a lot of fans that are in the stands that are white. you have an imbalance. you have 32 white owners and then you have a lot of rich, young black men. so naturally, that issue of race kind of stands out there. you have the owners trying to say one thing and the players saying another thing. and a lot of them african-american. it definitely plays into it. as i was mentioning, trump really tries to say it's not about that but, you know, at the end of the day, it really does -- it does speak to that issue, whether he wants it to speak to that issue or not. >> i want to get this in before we run out of time.
your piece criticized putting obama and trump on the same plane. esponse to that? >> well, they both hold the same office, the office of the presidency. and the office of the. icy has a role in responding to things. i think it's interesting when you compare obama, you compare it in the sense that obama is someone who has lived experience when it comes to racial issues. he was someone who had to go through racism, some of it with president trump from the birther issue. when he came to office and would handle issues of race, he would be coming from a very personal experience. sometimes the very facts of him being black, his blackness was often looked at by some people who did not necessarily agree with him as saying that's divisive. one quick example, when trayvon martin was shot, he said if i had a son, he would look like trayvon. newt going are rich said that was disgraceful, it was about race. a lot of black americans saw him
speaking to them. so president obama's blackness created this divisive wedge. and one thing i'll say, for. my president, it's somewhat of a lose-lose proposition. you did a poll that showed 54% of the countryelieved that relations between black and white people in america got worse under president obama. there was a pugh research survey that said 60% of the country says race relations have gotten worse under trump. how the president speakings on race almost speaks to the divisions on race we have in this country. >> at least obama knew who frederick douglass was. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] introducing worx pegasus,
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angela, give me your reaction to this latest thing with the white house and the eagles. >> you know, don, nothing surprises me anymore. from the man who called nfl players in a hypothetical situation softens of bitches -- excuse me my french, mom and dad .i know you're w he doesn't have respect for protests. he doesn't have respect for the black lives who have been lost. we've seen it in lack of response to any racial tension that's been stoked by police who used excessive force in killing black men and women in this country. and the fact of the matter is these players have every right to protest and more importantly, don, that's not even what this is about. folks just have a lack of respect for donald trump. his lack of decency in this office and the shame he's brought to this space. i think they have every right to sit out and move on. >> what do you think, ben? >> i agree. they have the right to sit out president has a right to say let's not fake this. you don't want to come here,
let's not waste time onka a photo op and move on with our days. that's what i love about this country. if someone is throwing shade at you and saying they don't want to be there, then let's just be men about it and say we're not going to do this. we're not going to fake it and take a picture which clearly both sides really don't want to be a part of. and that's okay. you can agree to disagree. they have a difference of opinion, they have a difference of ideas in this country on issues of national anthem and what it means and that's also okay. it's unfortunate that we try to blame the president when the initial reaction was from the team and players on the team saying i'm not going to show up. >> do you understand, last year a similar thing happened with the golden state warriors. but this is the first time in 2012, tim thomas didn't go -- i guess he disagreed with president obama. there was somebody else on the
denver broncos who didn't go. tom brady and a number of people didn't go in 2017. what i'm saying is -- there were other presidents before that. nobody canceled it. they said those who want to come, come. >> but i think it's very clear it's more than one player. you're talking about instance where is you literally have to find who the one player was. >> i have a list of different players here. i'm trying to help you make your point here. "the washington post" is reporting that last week they promised as many as 70 players. this week now it got down to 10. >> at what point -- >> if they do the photo op then, then dond trump only had ten players show up. what a disaster p.r. wise. >> at some point a leader needs
toook at himself and says what is wrong that so many people do not want to be in my presence, do not want to come to a ceremony where i'm commemorating you. you can laugh, but this is not funny. >> by the way -- >> be a leader and show .and have a conversation with the president. >> the eagles all stood last near. they didn't kneel. >> the eagles didn't kneel all season. >> again, if you want to be a leader in the nfl and have a conversation. >> it's on the commander-in-chief, ben. do better.
the supreme court ruling with a colorado baker tonight who refused to bake a cake to celebrate the marriage of a same sex combecause of his own religious objection. it was 7-2. it meld the civil rights commission showed hostility toward the baker based on his religious beliefs. but the ruling leaves broader questions of civil rights and religious liberty unsettled. justice kennedy who is the author of four landmark cases wrote in today's majority ruling. it says the outcome of cases like this and other circumstances must await further elaboration in the courts.
all in the context of recognizing that these disputes must be resolved with tolerance, without undue respect to sincere religious beliefs and without subjecting gay persons to indignities in an open market. joining me at the center of this. thank you so much for joining me. so charlie, you first. what was your reaction when the case came down, when you heard about this? you must have been disappointed, i'm sure. >> yeah, thanks for asking. this morning, we were not expecting the case to have a decision but we were watching the scotus blog and all of a sudden it showed up on master piece. we saw the 7-2 decision and kennedy wrote it. and at that point you just don't know what the decision says or how to decipher it. we're not exactly lawyers even though we've been going through it for six years.
so we ran around for two hours being very confused and sad and worried. as the day has progressed, we found little gold nuggets. like the colorado anti-discrimination laws are still intact. >> and the governor of colorado just put out a statement addressing the ruling and the state body who initially handled the complaint. while we are disboinld the decision, we take seriously the commissioner the state must apply its laws regions in aner that is neutral toward religion. it says we have no doubt that the colorado civil rights commission will meet standard as they listen respectfully to all sides of the matter that come before and it issue dpigss uphold and protect support under colorado law. so the court's verdict did not rule the cake maker's refuse on the to make a cake for you constitutional but criticized
the way the state handled his religious objections. is that one of the nuggets that you're encouraged about? >> absolutely. we just got back from a rally at the state capitol. e governor spoke on our behalf and he you giant hug and said that he supported us. that felt good. >> jack phillips did offer to bake other goods for you but refused the wedding cake. what would you say to people who asked, why not just go to a cake maker who didn't object to same sex marriage? it's an obvious question but i have to ask. >> the point of this case wasn't whether or not there was someone else out there who could bake a cake for us. the reason we brought this case was becae we didn't want another loving couple to have to be turned away from a business just for who they are. >> so dave, you said earlier today, that no one should be turned away from a business open
to the public because of who you are. and as up, but the court agreed with you on some level. here's what it says. our society has come to the recognition that gay persons and gay couples cannot be treated as social outcasts or inferior in dignity and worth. for that reason the constitution must and can protect them inhe exercise of their civil rights. at the same time, the religious and phophical objections to gay marriage are protected views and in some instances protected forms of expression. is there any middle ground. i don't think gay people are part of a protected class. >> i feel like, in colorado, in about half the states, sexual orientation is protected underneath a lot of the civil rights laws. six years ago when this happened to us, we had no idea about that law. we have since learned that. and i think the compromise is any business can choose what
they want to sell to people. they can't choose who to sell it to. >> we have come, this is, this month in june, and the lgbtq community and rights has come a long way. do you see any hope in this ruling or is it a reminder of how far we have to go? do you see it as a setback? how do you see it? >> well, i think the main thing we want people to know about this ruling is that it has fully left colorado's anti-discrimination act intact. it hasn't changed the law. >> so what's next for you? >> well, we're just trying to survive today. and then we'll plan for the future. we've been doing this for six years and we'll probably want to take a small vacation away from the world and then come back and keep fighting for the rights of