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getting the media to talk about this entire situation and in terms they want. that the president should have limitesure when you could make an argumenshould have greater exposure. >> you've got anthony scaramucci tonight. cuomo prime time. 9:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. chris, excellent new work. congratulations on the new show. that's it for me. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" the president versus eagles. he says it's about patriotism. is it? the mayor of philadelphia is utfront." plus, the president's laoyalty test. a new one along with who's being tested. and the shocking death of fashion designer, kate spade. what drove her to suicide and what was in her note. let's go "outfront." >> good evening, i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, hiding
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behind the flag. president trump replacing an event to honor the super bowl champs witled a quote, celebration of america. the president singing along to the national anthem. the u.s. marine nd, army corps performing for the supporters who were in attendance. the president claims he disinvited the eagles because they would not stand quote for the national an they will. in honor ohe gref our military. in other words, they aren't in his view, patriots. but is that reahis is all about? one heckler at today's event may be on to something. listen. >> stop hiding behind the mask -- >> stop hiding. he may have a point because trump's tantrum about the eagles and this disinviting scenario may have nothing to do with the kneeling or flag. it may be about him, which is
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why he may have been at a loss for words when reporters asked questions at his celebration. >> president -- are you saying that the b football players are not patriotic, sir? >> will you meet with the ath alitos and talk to them? >> we know the president is happy to take questions when he likes the topics. here he is last week. you could see all four times. he returneded to the camera to to the camera to take more questions. but today, he did not like the questions, so he left. maybe reason he did not like the questions, the reason he disinvited a super bowl team for the first time in american history according to espn by th would look bad. cording to the white house, there were only between four and ten players who were going to attend. the white house says 81 were promised to attend a week ago. we know numbers and optics matter to trump more than
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substance. he is a man obsessed with crowd sizes and numbers. >> i had much bigger crowds than he was drawing. >> we had the biggest audience. >> i get the biggest crowds, the biggest standing o vases. i guess you see it in the poll numbers. >> the crowds were so big, almost as big as tonight. >> if you can't have the biggest crowd, well, maybe he takes his ball and goes home. as he did with the eagles and as he has done before. one reason the president canceled the that meeting with kim jong-un was reportedly because he was thinking kim was going to cancel on him and he wanted to do it first or his economic counsel which he disbanded l year. not because they weren't me meeting. it was because they were dropping out in droves, specifically in response to a white national attack in charlottesville and his response to that so they started quitting. he said i don't want you. again today. the same thing. that the white house, sarah
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sanders, was called out for it. >> is the president aware that taking the knee is about police involved shootings? >> the president has made his position crystal clear. and that about i let you rudely interrupt me and your colleague, i'm going ask you allow me to finish my answer. i would be happy to answer if uld stop talking long enough to let me do that. the president has medicine a his position crystal clear on that topic. he feels strong ly that standin for our national anthem is something that we should do. something that matters to what makes our country special and unique and what sets us apart. he's not going to waiver on that. he's not going to apologize for it. >> well, he's not going to apologize. in fact, a source close to the white house says far from it. he's going to double down. he's going to pound the nfl and make it a whole issue in the midterm elections. pamela brown is "outfront" and pamela, is that what this is really about? you don't have a lot of people going to show up, he thinks he's going to look, so forget it.
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i'm going to disinvite you and say something else. he's trying to score political points?>> the white house is sa it's really the philadelphia eagles trying to scool points saying they were engaged in this stop and it appears the president was playing politics by playing up this issue of the nastional anthem because he knos it plays well with his base and doesn't really carry water because no one from the team actually kneeled or stay ed in the locker room during the regular-season. so that didn't really add up. and as you pointed out, also way to deflect from the fact that so fu of the prlayers were going t show up. one official said if the numbers hadn't been whittled down, they wouldn't have been disinvited so it was more about that. you're right. the president kuz cadoes care about crowd sizes. he brought it up today saying more people than he thought showed up. there were eagles fans and a
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nump administration officials here. the view from in the white house though according to officials i've speaking with is that the eagles were trying to hoodwink them, embarrass them, trying to change the date of coming while the p president was in singapore. by whittling down the numbers at the last minute. they were basically playing games. the view within the white house this was really racial injustice, they would have come to have a conversation. so that is the view from the whituse, but is clear here is that the president used it as an opportunity to revive the campaign issue of "the national anthem" because he believes it work well with his base and he believes it will help republicans as we look forward to the midterm elections an we're told we can expect to hear more about the issue as we lead up to the election. >> thank you very mu, pamela. now the democratic mayor of philadelphia. mayor, thanks so much for your time this evening. the white house says this is all
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about respect for the united states. the men and women of the military. is it? >> no, it's about respecting the first amendment and understanding people's experiences in this country. when i hear the national anthem, i stand at attention, cover my heart, but i'm a white man with privilege. a a lot of people in this cocou have not had the same privilege that i have. everybody reacts differently to what this country has done or hasn't done for em. i think right to protest, they put the first amendment first for a reason and the president wants to ignore it and other amendments in the constitution and force people to view things and act and speak the way he tells them to. not what this country is about. >> mayor, of course, the white house claims that last week, 81 member of the eagles were schedule d to attend. what would have been today's event. then they say they were told only ten, fewer than ten, actually, would show up.
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the press secretary today says look, that is proof this was you know, not at all about what you're talking about, mayor, but just a april stubt. here's how she put it this afn. >> if this wpotical stunt, why did the eagles franchise, then they wouldn't have plaped to attend the event and backed out at the last minute. >> what do you say to that? was it a polical stunt? >> what do you think the percentage of the white house press corps who sits in that room every day listening to sarah sanders, what percentage do you think believe her telling the truth? she lies from that podium every day. so i have no reason to believe she's telling the truth on that one. the eagles clearly, the young men who play for the philadelphia eagles and the organization are very much involved in hour community. they rebuild parks. they try to get criminal justice reform. they feed the hungry and homeless. these are really dedicated athletes who are playing high level, but they have a high concern for our community and i
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love them all and i'll stand with them anytime. >> what do you think did happen to go from 81 to ten is a huge decline. was there something you're aware of specifically that happened where so many members of the team changed their mind? >> no, the premise of your question is based on their assertion that 81 people responded. >> that's what you're saying. >> i watch, yeah, i think this is all a stunt. and i think that the president is playing the nfl like a fiddle and these players are caught in the middle. not one philadelphia eagle took a knee last season. not one stayed in the locker room during the anthem and he's making it aup enough to divide this country. >> obvious b, many athletes have difficulties with this president. some athletes and managers though won championships have said going to the white house actually doesn't have anything to do with the person living there. to them, it's actually bigger than that.
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here's how three put it. >> when you have a chance for the white house, it's easy to say yes under respect of the office of the building. >> in our country, it stands freshmanfor a lot and means a lot. if the team goes, i'm going. not going to say no. >> as a team, decided to go and like i said, we consider this a great honor and great acompishment and we're thankful for the opportunity to visit the white house again. >> what do you make of that? do they have a point? >> well, the, there's a lot of discussion about respect. but it's mutual. it's two ways. this attitude that somehow he deserves respect for the title of his office is fallabecause p for the way they act or treat other people or the way they treat war heroes like john mccain. the kahn family, the way they
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treat women. what this is about. you can't go to a white house that's and endorse the president's activities and actions and words. almost as if you agree with it. >> it is fair to make this about this president as opposed to the office itself and the white house, what it stands for. the many people who have been inside it as obviously those three individuals. >> then he gone. you know, even if he had to stand there with ten players and coaches, he's the one who canceled it. it's on him. >> mayor, i appreciate your time. our viewers do. >> thanks, take care. bye bye. >> next, breaking news. shake up at the white house. john mccain is out and sarah sanders facing a credibility crisis, getting defensive. >> frankly, i think my credibility is probably higher than the media's. >> also breaking, polls about the close and the biggest primary night of the year. eight states voting tonight and jon king "outfront."
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or inaccurate? >> i know you want to get me in back and forth with you on this. >> we just want to know if it was accurate. >> you role is to engage me in a conversation about matters dealing the outside counsel and i'm not going to doday. >> you said something from the podium. was it accurate or not? >> i think you know i'm an honest person who works hard to provide you with accurate information at all times. at, but i'm not goio do engage on matters that deal with outside counsel. >> yesterday she refused to answer as well. just a remirnd minder here. don jr. issued a statement on the heating at trump tower that was misleading. inaccurate. about adoptions. never mentioned, but he was promised dirt on hillary clinton and that's why he took meeting. after that happened, sanders had this change with the reporter. >> verify you agreed the president. >> he certainly didn't dictate, but you know he weighed in,
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offered suggestion like any father would do. >> he certainly didn't dictate. we then learned from a letterex then lawyers, wrote to the special counsel. that's what happened. they say quote, the president dictated. a short but accurate response. so well, what's the truth? when the questions continued today, it appears to be b untrue, the president's lawyers have gone to the record and said so so, what it means is crucial. she chose to not answer and instead, she decided to insult the people who were asking her. >> fransly, i think my credibility is probably higher than the media's and in large part, that's because yguys spen more of your time focused on attacking the president instead of reporting the news. i think if you spent more time reporting news instead of trying to tear me down, you might see we're working hard trying to provide you good information and
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trying to provide that same good information to the american people. >> so she's saying she was lied to and what is she supposed to do about it. that's the benefit of the doubt. david gergen is with me. frank rooney and joe lockharto president clinton. thanks to all of you. david, her question. she's the press secretary. her job is to communicate back to the american people. obviously, she has done so time and time again. and those facts have turned out to be b fiction. >> correct. can we trust her at this point? >> no. trust but verify. listen, i have some sympathy for her because i've been in similar situations. if you're a communication person inside the white house, you depend entirely upon the truthness of your colleagues tell youg what if facts are before you go out. if they lie, you go out on the podium and you lie to the country and you lose your credibility. just get shot down. the only leverage you have is a
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threat to resign and carry out your threat. if they lie again. she's in that position now. i must saw one ore thi. there has to be somebody in the white house who protects her. that's the b job of the chief of staff. the chief of staff is the one who'ssed to ensure that the press secretary gets accurate information and goes out there -- >> he can only pass on what he knows is true. where the lie is coming from. >> true. in this case, the lawyer didn't know. he was lied to about what happened. the best chief of staff i've known is jim bahrke, who was in reagan administration. he told me look, i'm not going to tell you everything, but what i ll youn trto be true. that was eously helpfasul to have som protecting you before you went out. >> joe you've been tat the podium. is she doing her job or is she at a point where she is to say you're destroy iing my crede bability if you lie to me, i'm out. >> yeah. i think it's a very, very hard job b to do. but she's at the point now where
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not even whether she's wittingly lying or unwittingly. she's come police it pli sit. made a misstatement for the last two days, completely undermineser credeibcredibility. one of the things about having the job is you have to take on the role of somewhat of a reporter within the white house. and go out and verify for yourself. and the eagles thing is a great xwam principle. someone told her that 81 people confirmed. if i was in the job and i knew the politics of this, i would have picked up the phone and call the eagle's pr guy and known for myself there's no way 81 people were confirmed. we knew at the super bowl, at least half the team wasn't going to come. they said it and said it on the record, but rather than check, she gave false information, which she's now come police it
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. >> her answer is to say i'm an honest person and you guys by the way, you have lessrede bab bable thety. put aside polls that show that to be true. it's beside the point. her best answer is to say you did this. >> in that sense, part of her job is to be the president's e's behaving like the president. he turns it around. he says i know you were, but what am i? sort of the i'm rubber you're glue presidency. i'm sure the audience who judges her most importantly in her eyes, donald trump, is happy with what he saw today. >> the question is whether she has any tethering to the reality of credibility mattering. this has happened before. she has as i said many times, one with stormy daniels on the payment the president made to her. here's what sanders s about it >> yeah, i've had conversations
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with the president about this. and as i outlined earlier that this case had been won in arbitration and there was no knowledge of anyayments he's denied these allegations. >> so he had no knowledge then rudy giuliani said that wasn't true. >> the president repaid it. >> oh, i didn't know he did. >> yeah. >> okay. so screy, how to explain it? >> you were in the dark, i think it's a fairly simple question. >> i think it's a fairly simple answer that i've given you several times now. i give you the best information i have and i'm going to continue to do that every single day. >> how much does it matter if she's lying knowing she's lying or someone's lying to her. >> joe had the right point at this point. it would be beyond whether she does or doesn't know. she'd be a lot better off if she
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came clean and said she made a med.she s n edge. was she doesn't need to be insulting the press. presidents who succeeded the most and with the press have been those who have been straight fforward and seen as professionals. you're jus trying to do your job. he's trying to do his. you're going to have disagreements, but put down all this bs politicking. that is going on and it hurts the white house. >> joe, this comes as the kelly sadler, the press aide who joked about john mccain dying, sort of never apology for that. trying to brush it under the rug. now apparently, she's gone. she's out and still though, no official condemnation of making a joke about hey, you know, john mccain is dying. >> yeah, listen, there's no way to defend either her comment or the white house reaction to it. we don't know why she's gone.
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she may have decided herself. she may have been fireded. we'll probably never know definitively. i think the part of that saga that was most revealing was the next day when she went in front of the president and pointed around the room and said there are a leaker there a leaker. i think the that gives you a sense of the environment in there. in that sense, i have some sympathy for the people working there because it's a snake pit and at some point, you have to have the courage and the morality to say i'm not going to be here. i'm going to -- enough is enough. >> yeah. we'll see. we'll see if that happens. thank you all. >> and next, super tuesday. this could be the make or break night for democrats when it comes to winning back the house. polls close ng the next 30 minutes and kate spade found dead in her home. a suicide note addressed to her daughter. what led spade to take her own life? allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion,
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representatives. you see the red. that's the republican majority, but let's go through a lot of these district, we know who's going to win in november. we think 180 seats will go to th thes democrats. then these races. these are the races from coast to coast that are in play. a lot of red, right? if trats are going to get to two dozen, they need 23. they have opportunities coast to coast. but wow do do they have a will the of tuesday nigopportunities california. ten districts are competitive. this year at this point, only one is blue. nine republican-held districts in play in what should be a dem. as we go closer binto californi, there's the districts. these are the ten. if you're the democrat, you look k as these here, then you come down at the moment, one likely, two toss up. there's four. if they hold their one. there's four they could pick up. two lean republicansen.
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in a good yeerk, there's two more. if you need 23, 24, six right there. if you hd candidates. if you have a candidate at all. it's complicated bauecause of t rules in california. that's what tonight's on b about. >> it's crucial. the it's been primary system. credibly unusual, but it really also could drive the entire result. >> sure could. these are the ten races in california. let's look aese ones here. these are seven races. tworks four, six and one seven. why are these the top targets for democrats? all these republican-held seats won by hillary clinton. if you're democrats and looking to pick up a bunch of seats, this is where you look. again, look, two of them lean democrat. two are toss up. two lean republican, if democrats can get the leans in a big blue year, two, four, six, yo q of way there right here if you have a bigger year, you can get more. here's the b problem.
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you go through heez districts now, in three of them, in the jungle primary rules top two candidates are on the november ballot. doesn't matter if it's dtwo republicans or democrats. so many democrats ran because they saw the opportunity. the democratic party is worried when we count the votes tomorrow, might take more than that. they are worried and these three top targets, they might not have candidates at all come november. >> wow. and if you don't have someone on the ballot, you aren't going to win. stating the obvious here. thank you very much. but you know, important the state, this comes as we have new reporting coming in this moe wh about a quote unquote loyalty test. they're going to use to determine if and who trump will endorse for the midterms. pam brown is breaking this story. she's back with me and pam, what have you learned about this loyalty test? >> we erin, sources tell me and my colleague that white house aides are advising the president on where to l his star power based in part on
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how loyal candidates have been to him in t particularly incumbents. so white house officials are going back, scrutinizing what certain candidates have said about the president. both before and after the election as well as their voting record. to weigh how loyal they have been. to president trump and that is what the being used todvise him in terms whether or not he should sbeer serene intervene i seeing tha with the president flexing his political muscle on twitter today, backing nunes rthy. they are two trump allies. have been very loyal to the president. notably, he did not throw his weight behind row backer, another republican who is an incumbent because he's been critical of the president many the past. that is not the only factor, not the most important factor in terms of loyalty. sources say they're also looking at how vulnerable the
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candidate's numbers as well as fund raising efforts to decide who the president should support. >> thank you so much for your r ja jack jackie speier. i want to start with the reporting you just heard about a so-called loyalty test that the president could use to decide who to endorse, who to campaign for. is this unusual or is this just something anybody would do? who would want to endorse somebody dioyal to you? >> well, you know, i think it's typical of president. to exact loyalty oath from who he supports. that doesn't surprise me. i don't know that that has historically always been the case. often time, president's have supported candidates who have been lu but who will be important for the principles within a particular party. whether it be democratic or republican. so this is an unusual presidency. no question about it.
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truth doesn't matter and loyalty does. >> so b tonight is a big night and jon king was planing this jungle primary. f this is crucial for democrats. this is the super tuesday of this eire midterm. you need 23 seats, a net gain to gainuse, which democrats want desperately to do. are you concerned they could get shut out of key districts in your state with not even a name on the ballot come november because of this rule tonight? >> there's a high likelihood that's going to happen in the number of seats in california there were seven districts out of the 14 held byrepublicans. seven districts where hillary ere many of the districts votes. that we wereargeting. and we are suffering from cube rans exuberance. we have lots of democrats running and what's going to happen is there'e a
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slit spl splitting of the votes and two republicans in the runoff. >> if that's what happens, are you saying there's a chance here that you don't have a chance at regaining the white house because of the california primary tonight? >> well, the california primary will weigh in in no question. but we've got lots of opportunities in states like pennsylvania where the lines were gerrymandered to prevent what would be appropriate districts that link both democrats and republicans will have huge pick ups there. i think in north carolina as well. i think there's lots of hopeful opportunities. lamb won the district won by donald trump some 25 points and there are 147 districts that are less conservative than that district. >> before you go, you know president clinton has gotten a lot of criticism as hence he didn't know monica lewinsky a personal apology.
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>> but you didn't apologize to her. >> i have not talked to her. >> do you feel -- you own her on apology? >> i do not i never talk to her. but i did say publicly on more than one occasion i was sorry. the suggen was that i never apologized. for what caused all the troubles with me 20 years ago. i apologized to my family, to monica lewinsky and her family and to the american people. >> in public. do you think congressman that a public apology makes up for as he openly admitted, never speaking to her and personally apologizing to her? >> i think that is a real tough question. monica lewinsky may not want to talk to former president bill clinton. there is no question that was a very low point in his administration. >> does that mean he shouldn't
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have tried, that he's right to say i didn't mean to do it or try to do it? >> i can't speak to what wen on then. but i can say that an effort ve. probably shoul been made. but he should have respected whatever message he received from monica lewinsky and her family in terms of whether or not she wanted to take a call from him. >> all right, thanks. appreciate your time. next, president trump blames the super bowl champs for making him cancel today's meeting. so who's to blame? and kate spade found dead in her home this morning. tonig tonight, we have new details this hour about the suicide note she left behind. in its place. and if i can get comfortable keeping this tookus safe and protected... you can get comfortable doing the same with yours. preparation h. get comfortable with it. at&t provides edge-to-edge intelligence, covering virtually every part of your manufacturing business. & so this won't happen.
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source close to the white house tells cnn the president will kobt continue to pound the table on "the national anthem." it's going to be a strategy to use thissue. he thinks it's winning one. this as sarah sanders refused to say whether he should shoulder any of the blame. >> this is a president who called nfl players sob. who implied that some players who don't stand for the national anthem do not belong this in this country. does he bare bear zero responsibility for players like the warriors and cavs not want tog come and the eagles bailing? >> his position hasn't changed on this throughout the process and the president's position was
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very clearly stated in a numr of forums and venues. >> our political commentator and former trump campaign adviser are "outfront." mark, so, does he bear any responsibility for the fact that ofblg b obviously a lot of them didn't want to come? >> obviously he does. this isn't even a partisan issue. i mean, there have been champions during every presidency. this isn't happening to bush or reagan. under clinton. under obama. at the same rate. of course there are players who don't want to come, but it's about the context that trump has created where people don't feel their rights are being honored. the way they'r feeling antagonized by the sitting president. you can come to the white house and disagree with the president, but something bigger here and donald trump is playing into it quite deliberately. >> the president thinks this is a winning issue for him. is that a reason to do this because it's going to help you
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in the midterms? >> no, that is not. it is a winning issue, but that a i loan is not a reason. i would disafwree with mark. there's no first amendment issue here. no one has a right to protest and work. no one has an unfettered right. i don't. you don't, erin. mark, you don't. nobody can show up at work and stagealts as they pl please. more importantly to this case today, these players and the nfl in general has been incredibly disrespectful and not just to donald trump. i mean, we can put that fine, they don't like trump. to the a office of the presiden presidency. the landmark that's the white house. i've been honored to have been invited there quite a bit since he won. it's an amazing place. there's a thrill of just being there. >> why? i don't understand. some people and we played this earlie the hour. some who disagree with him agree with you. that it's about the building and the office and not the person, but others don't. why are they unpatriotic for
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feeling one way and not another? >> if they're real, it's because they're grand standing. you know what they should have done, the adult thing to do instead of acting like a bunch of spoiled premadonnas? is show up, met the president, probably for the first time and said, mr. president, may we have aeeting later in this is a celebration today, not political, but this is a celebration about philadelphia, football, the eagles. can we come back and talk pol y policy? i can guarantee you -- >> you have a point, but when you say grand standing, they are grand standing, mark, what the heck was he doing with canceling the whole thing? >> that's my point. to steve's initial point, this is primarily a first amendment issue. al though they have a right to do so. the it's a question about whether or not we want to use this opportunity to talk about things and whether we want to honor people's ability to do
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that. yeah, you can't protest at work normally, but most jobs don't make you sit there for a 20-minute ceremony hong the flag of a nation state be ever you punch the assembly line. as far as grand stand, i remember reince came to a game for the sole purpose of leaving. the trump administration has set up events for the sole purpose of walking out. tweeting about this. writing about this. canceling an event the day before it happens. it's an act of grand standing here. let's not pretend this is about a political gesture that begins with the eagles. the act every sunday of people standing there with aircraft carriers and the flag waving as we affirm a nation the state. >> on some level, is this about the president being upset they didn't come? he loves polls and crowds and a a lot o people around him and he
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wasn't going to get that today. he was going to look bad by his measure. ten guys or five guys. he thought this was poualtry. >> i think it would have been, so i don't blame him for not wanting that. but it's much deeper.sten, does does this legitimize like you said the nation state of america? absolutely. football is part of our dna. part of our culture. part of our comf ica. and every sunday, one of the things we've done for years and years is get together and play and watch this amazing game an celebrate this amazing country that gives us this opportunity to do so and to break that culture. i think is sad and the it's sad for the nfl, for the leadership of the nfl. the players. for the game. sad for our youth and the prent is standing up against that. i say god bless him for beginnidoing so. >> they've never been disinvited before. >> i guess depends on how you look at this. >> thanks to both. i'll give the last one to steve. next, kate spade found dead in
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new tonight, the shocking death of kate s. the designer and culture icon found dead in her new york city apartment. police source telling cnn she hang hanged herself with a scarf. we are learning new details at this hour about the notes she left behind that addresses her 13-year-old daughter. >> rep fashion designer and businesswoman kate spade was found dead in her apartment tuesday morning from th55-year-old allegedly hanged herself with a scarf attached to a doorknob. her body was found.
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catherine brosnahan was the fifth child in a family of six. >> my mother was good at encouraging me to address however i wanted. >> reporter: graduating with a journalist degree she began writing for mademoiselle. in 1992, kate quit her job to design handbags. >> andy and i were out and he said what about handbags. i said honey, you juson't start a handbag company. >> reporter: the branch was launched in 1993. >> i said i think we should shut it down. >> reporter: with her husband's help, the company grew from a
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scrappy purse business to a multimillion dollar empire that clothing, shoes, jewelry and home goods. >> we lost an incredible human being, an incredible woman who paved a way for all of these other designers to be able to d >> reporter: in 1999 she and her husband sold half her company to the neiman marcus department story. the brand was sold soon after to liz claiborne. the luxury brand coach snapped brand in a $2.4 billion deal. >> what she did with collon creat this idea of needing an it bag at an
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accessible price point. >> reporter: the new york city medical examiner are investig they do believe this is suicide cause of the note that was addressed in part to her daughter, because of the physical condition of the apartment and because of a witness they spoke to and as we know, it wasouthat founder body. >> so tragic. thank you so much, we have so much to learn about this tragic suicide. next, a lighter note for our show, jeanne moos on an end of an era that thank god is over. ss including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. most only block one. flonase. mitzi: psoriatic arthritis tries to get in watch me. ( ♪ )
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tonight miss america says goodbye to the bikini. here is jeanne moos. >> miss america will still be there, but this won't. say so l to the st competition. >> we will no longer judge ourc physical appearance. that is huge. >> the swimsuits themselves were huge when it began. then they became more form fitting. then dissolved into the bikini. >> had time for butt glue. >> won't need butt glue anymore. >> i am going to miss it. what is left? the essay?
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>> the emphasis on talent and brains. like tears of joy tangled up sashes and falling off crowns. the evening gown competition will be revamped to allow contestants to wear what they want but bye-bye bikinis. some men on twitter were bitter. removihe swimsuit competition is like removing fighting from hockey, it will fa noe scantily clad women? it sounds like great radio. >> that is the only reason i watch it. me and my mom watched it. >> a dinosaur, move on. >> i am gay as pink paint, so i don't give a damn. >> contestants have more skin on
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the gain. >> stops the suit from riding up. >> riding up where? >> off into the sunset. >>e moos, cnn, new york. >> good rid danance to that. thanks for joining us. anderson starts now. >> good evening, hosting a championship sports team ranked up there from the white house easter egg roll. even when some of their teammates publicly stayed away. fans whatever your team you are posing with today. today the philadelphia eagles and spreading false hoods by the reasons why. the national anthem will