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in new york. we welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. our terribly sad news to report is that best selling author and award winning host of parts unknown, our friend, anthony bourdain has died. for the last five years on cnn, tony travelled across the globe doing what he loved. he uncovered little known places. he explored food and through food he celebrated diverse cultures. cnn's senior media correspondent brian stelter joins us. we haven't had much time to adjust to this horrible news. >> all of us here at cnn are experiencing this, along with our viewers at the same time. it's just starting to sink in. it is a heartbreaking loss for all of us. anthony was in france. he was working on an upcoming episode of parts unknown. right now, the 11th season of this award winning series has been airing on cnn. he was working on an upcoming
season. he was found dead in his hotel room in france. he was found by one of his close friends. the production crew was there about to start another day's work. we do know he took his own life. beyond that we don't have many more details. i can share with you a statement from cnn on behalf of the network saying, it is with extraordinary sadness we confirm the death of our friend and colony. his love of fine food and drink and the remarkable stories of the world made him a unique storyteller. we will miss him very much. our thoughts and prayers are with his daughter and family at this incredibly difficult time. obviously, we waited until we made sure his family was notified before sharing this news. you know, you think about anthony and what he accomplished first as a chef, then as a best selling author. then as an international television icon. someone who used the world of
culinary arts to tell stories about life and love. to tell stories about humanity. he delighted viewers and challenged viewers. both learned so much and laughed so much while watching parts unknown. >> someone put it this morning he was a hero of human curiosity. which i think is a lovely way to put it. you know, his whole life he was traveling and he was trying and he was asking. yes, you know he was a chef and he wrote about food. that was i think the continuing thread through this. but it was about so much more. >> listen, it's just a horrible, horrible shock on every level. because on his show there's a celebration of life and all sorts of different cultures. we just saw him recently. he was here to talk about his upcoming season. he was telling me about -- listen, he always was open to learning new things. and on every single segment he did learn new things. we did to through him and
through his experience. and, you know, the idea that he was suffering somehow is really heartbreaking. >> how do you put it so well? what he did was to celebrate life. how do you reconcile someone whose every fiber was a celebration of life. how do you reconcile that with the news that it was a death by suicide? it's very, very hard for us this morning. i know it's very hard for everyone who loved his work. from the beginning his writing, you know, they lived what it was like to be in a new york kitchen through him. he told us, you know? >> we saw how the sausage was made. kitchen confidential became a best seller as you put it. it was because he peeled back the curtain. here he is with anderson. there are so many people he sat down with and had authentic genuine conversations with because he was curious about them and about their lives. >> people still read kitchen confidential 18 years later.
it's that kind of book. he wrote other books as well. you know, even on his program on cnn, his writing came through in every episode. he was such a poet. he had such a gift with words. he was one of a kind. that's one of the reasons why he's won practically every award in the television business. in 2013, the first year his program was on cnn, he won the p peabody award. in his acceptance speech he talked a bit about what he tried to do with questions about food, about cooking. here's what he said. >> we ask very simple questions, what makes you happy. what do you eat? what do you like to cook? everywhere in the world we go and ask these simple questions, we tend to get some really astonishing answers. >> one of the reasons why he was really one of a kind. >> you know, so many things that anthony has said that are
indelible. the one that i'm reading right now is i'm an advocate for anything it's to move as far as you can across the ocean or simply across the river. walk in someone else's shoes or at least eat their food. it's a plus for everybody. you know, again, he was a human contradiction, right? he loved food. he wrote about food. he lived food. he thought we obsessed about food too much. he once said to me i wish people would stop taking pictures of food and have more sex. you know, because he really wanted to do was to show people life. >> he was able to do that when he was in, you know, thailand, halfway around the world from here in new york. or when he was closer to home, he was doing it all the time. he has so many memorable episodes. one that just came to my mind was his time with president obama when he was sitting down having a meal. it was one of the most engaging interviews of a president i've
ever seen. precisely because of the setting and because of the question. >> was it hanoi? >> yeah, vietnam during the president's trip there. you were able to see so much about both men when they sat down together this way. >> when you eat with somebody, it is an intimate experience, john. i mean, that is -- breaking bread together, that is a bridging of a divide, a building of a relationship. and it does end up being intimate. he saw that. he and i bonded about new jersey, our beloved home state and provincetown, an adopted town that we both loved. a vacation spot, a summer vacation spot. you know, anthony was interesting. i always felt that while he was a big presence on tv, he was an introvert. i felt he was a natural introvert and he wasn't somebody -- he shared his passion about food. but i didn't think he was somebody who made a lot of sort of just random chitchat or small talk.
i thought he did away with that. he was always, you know, a little -- he was -- >> a little reserved? >> reserved, you know. he didn't wear all that on his sleeve. the idea he was able to share some of his demons, that he had fought drug addiction, heroin. everybody really appreciates out there, because to know that somebody else went through it and came out the other side is helpful. obviously, you know, i think all of us just feel like we wished we had known whatever was happening in the past days. >> obviously, this comes, you know, on the heels of the news about kate spade. you know, just a few days after we learn that she took her own life. dr. jody gold is with us right now. she's a psychiatrist, the director for the gold center of mind health and wellness. it comes on the heels of news -- the cdc released news that the suicide rate is up 25% since? >> 1999.
let me read a little bit more of those. 25 states have suicide rate increases of more than 30%. 54%, this is the part that really baffled me and i find so vexing. 54% of people who died by suicide didn't have a known mental health condition. in other words, it would have been hard for loved ones to see what was coming. what do you say this morning? >> it's true. i'm so sorry for your loss. i feel sorry for the family and the cnn community. you all were close to him. you travelled and worked very hard. i think it's important that you are taking care of yourself. as we know, this stuff is contagious. people that work hard and travel can be isolated and it's really important at this moment you all are taking good care of yourself. >> so the question -- you had this conversation just the other day. kate spade, whose life seemed so fabulous. anthony bourdain, what could be better than travel the world and eat with everyone you want to
eat with. how do you explain it? >> success does not protect you from depression. it doesn't protect you from suicide. i think we'd all like to. yesterday, i think, we were speaking about the fact that what was striking people about kate spade is you didn't think she fit the bill of someone that would kill themselves. she was successful and glamorous. so was anthony. he was authentic and real and seemed tod seemed to embrace life. two thirds of people who kill themselves have a diagnosis of depression or anxiety, a third do not. a lot of that is because they haven't gotten the kind of help they need. the increase in suicide is so sad. one of the things that worries me is i think this is a similar suicide to kate spade in terms of the method of the way he killed himself. >> i want to ask you about that. when you s it's contagious, do you mean suicide is contagious? >> yes. >> i want to talk about this. that's part of why we don't talk out it on air. we fear copycats so we don't
want to talk about it. then that leads to the stigma. this is a dicey area. how should we handle this? >> we have to talk about it in a appropriate and thoughtful way. we have to not sort of glamorize it or idealize it. i don't love the 13 reasons show that's on that glamorizes suicide. we have to talk about it . people get obsessed and preoccupied with suicides that are close to them. it does increase the risk. in terms of the kate spade and anthony bourdain, if you have friends or family members that can't get over this, these suicides. everybody is in mourning and that's appropriate. i'm not talking about that. i'm talking about in a few weeks, the people that are obsessing over it. if they're talking about death all the time, that's a risk factor and those are the people you should be reaching out to. it does happen in clusters. we see it in celebrities, we see it in schools and communities. nyu there was recently two suicides very close together. we really see it. that's why we have to talk about
it and start destigmatizing it. depression are real. there are always warning signs. >> like what? >> any change in behavior. for instance, i'm not sure if anthony's social media history -- >> four days ago were the last tweets. >> is that unusual? >> hard to know. >> he was out shooting. >> he could have needed to go to work instead of being on social media. >> if you have a friend or family member that's on twitter five times a day, and you're a little bit worried about them and all of a sudden they go to radio silence. that would be a risk factor. i'm not suggesting everyone who takes a healthy break frsocial media is at risk for suicide. >> substance abuse. anthony talked willingly and openly about his battle with heroin in the 1980s. it was a big part of his life. >> yes, and he was candid about that. i think on the program, obviously, we see him drinking, celebrating, having a good time.
there were certainly times in the past where he was drinking too much. i don't know if you would say that's a risk factor as well at certain points. >> substance abuse is an absolute risk factor. even among people that don't have a diagnosis of mental health it's always a risk factor. you're going to see something. i think as we unpeel this thing, we'll see. >> he said your body is not a temple, it's an amusement park. >> i was thinking about the stigma point. i don't think i've told my wife this. i have an uncle i never knew because it happened before i was born. i'm thinking about that stigma issue that affects so many families. it applies to so many families. we have to be able to talk about suicide but carefully.
>> carefully. >> because it also seems risky. >> talking about suicide does not cause people to kill themselves. not talking about suicide might. i think yesterday we were discussing the fact that you've got to ask people. everyone wants to respect privacy. if you're worried about a friend or family member you should ask them if they're not feeling good. you can say have you thought about hurting or killing yourself. >> if they yes, what do you do? >> your red flags go up and you need call a therapist or a doctor, you need to call a family member. isolation and alienation is a big risk factor for suicide. just connecting and spending time with them. >> i want to say that depression, obviously, is so common, okay? it's so common, we need to remove the stigma from that, too. when you're in it you think it will never lift. i've had bouts of -- in my 20s and early 30s, i've had a dark cloud i thought wasn't going to lift. sometimes it can be situational. those things do change.
time changes. and medication helps. therapy helps. there are things out there for people who think that they are in just a downward spiral. there are things that can lift the cloud. we need to talk about that, also. >> suicide is preventible. it's one of the top ten causes of death in our country and it's actually preventable. one of the things to your point is it passes. when you're depressed you don't think it's going to pass. that's why most suicides are committed by firearms. one of the things that concerns me about that is the waiting time. you can impulsively get a time and hurt yourself. if you have a friend or family member that is depressed that just lost their job, that's drinking too much. you might need to keep the firearms locked up. it passes. if you impulsively take your life, there's nothing we can do. the message out there is to wait, to connect, and call the suicide hotline and know it's
going to pass. >> i want to put the hotline up one more time, the suicide prevention lifeline. call it. call it. there's nothing wrong with calling and asking for help. >> it's available 24 hours a day. you can call anonymously. this morning, we are very, very sad about our friend anthony bourdain. anthony bourdain, dead at the age of 61. directv now gives you more for your thing. get all the good stuff about tv without all the bad stuff. yes! you can still stream your favorite shows. yes! with no annual contract. wait, what? it's live tv. yes! with no satellites. what? and no bulky hardware. no bulky hardware! isn't that great news? yes! nooooo! nooooooooooo! try directv now for $10 a month for 3 months. more for your thing. that's our thing. visit directvnow.com
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president trump due to leave any minute now for the g7 summit in canada. he will come face to face with u.s. allies right now who are very disappointed with the united states and the trump administration's snce on trade. i want to bring cnn global analyst and formal secretary of state in the obama administration. i want to set the scene for what is about to happen. he's about to go to canada, you know, the president of france, the prime minister of canada have been openly criticizing the president before he left for the u.s. stance on trade. very unusual. >> of course, all eyes are seeing -- so what is the counterpunch from president trump once he's up there? how will he handle getting such a brush back from u.s. allies up there? john, did you ever think you would see a u.s. president have
to navigate a tricky scenario with the g7 in canada? we are in different times here. what i think you see -- tony will speak to this, too, i'm sure. what i think you're seeing here is the allies of the united states sort of calling out and saying okay, if you really want to pursue isolationist policies, we are going to show the world that we can isolate you. i don't know that that will be a fully successful strategy or if they're calling president trump's bluff. clearly, that's what they're trying to do, is expose his pursuit of isolationism. >> here's what president macron said yesterday. the american president may not mind be isolating, but neither do we mind. these six countries are now a true international force. >> this really is very strong proof that america first is america alone. it's not just that our allies
are disappointed when there's a disagreements. it's palpable anger. it's anger over this tariff war that president trump's initiated. but it's also on the foundation of pulling out of a series of agreements. the iran nuclear deal. the climate accord. it mattered to them and doing it in a way that discounted their own interests. now we have a situation where, you know, the president wanted to avoid going to the g7. he's cutting short his time there. it's a little bit like mean girls in reverse. it's going to be a difficult atmosphere. this matters. it matters because, first, there's now a trade war in the offing with our allies. they're retaliating, they're not retreating. it makes it more difficult to work with them on common challenges, whether it's russia, china or iran. >> let me tell you something that just happened. let me tell you where we are. the president has left the white house. he walked to marine one, he's on his way to joint base andrews. on the way to marine one, he did
talk to reporters. we're waiting to turn that tape around so you can see it. our understanding is that one of the things he said is that he would like to see russia brought back into the g8. russia was expelled, basically kicked out after it annexed crimea. now the president of the united states in the midst of this anger, as you put it, tony, between the u.s. allies is now suggesting that russia -- he wants russia back in. what do you make of it? >> it's pretty remarkable that the president clearly has a better relationship with russia than he does with our closest partners and allies in europe and japan. that's a profound problem. if he wants to set up a g-6 versus two that would be the way to do it. that's not in america's interest. we need to be solidifying the base with our closest partner and allies. not alienating them. unfortunately that's what he
doing. >> he also said if we can't make a deal we're terminate nafta. >> that's another one of the things we're understanding came out of that talk. that to me, he has said things like that before. the russia thing is a little bit new and stark. >> go back and pull the statements from 2014 from republicans, his own party members, when russia was kicked out of the g-8 because of the annexing of crimea. line up every statement from all the republicans on capitol hill who were so supportive of that move, who were so eager to make sure that putin and russia received some punishment. this is just a dramatic departure from where his own party was a few years ago. >> how will they respond, david? when they hear this news, how will the republicans in congress respond? >> i think you'll see a mixed bad. some republicans will express concern over this proposal being
floated. you will see others -- i'm willing to bet you'll see some who were very supportive of this a few years ago who will remain silent or just sort of step back and allow the president's proposal to run its court. but i doubt you're going to see some uprising, even from the most ardent putin critics inside his own party pushing back on the president. >> one other bit of news, the president says he's thinking about pardons. our reporting is he wants to issue as many as several dozen more. one person he suggested he might pardon is mohamed ali. he was convicted of evading the draft during the vietnam war. there was a supreme court case that ruled in his favor and he was able to go back and box again. the president is also thinking about pardons in a celebrity context. i don't want to waste time with tony while we have him here thinking about diplomacy. you know, you have the g-7.
now you have talking about russia and the president thinking about russia and north korea. he said friendlier words about kim jong-un than he has about allies. >> he's heading off to singapore. everyone should want him to succeed. but the success needs to be based on the merits, not on hype and exaggeration. the danger is that the president so wants a success from this summ summit, he's built it up so much that he's likely to declare a victory even though the substance is not necessarily there. at best, we're going to get broad agreement on principles and commitments from north korea. we've been there before. i hope he revisits the history. in 2005, in 2012, the north koreans made commitments on denuclearization. they didn't follow through. the proof is going to be over time to see if they make good on any commitments they make in singapore. the more he hypes the success, the more it's a green light to
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house republicans are fed up with inaction on immigration reform need three more lawmakers to sign their petition to force a vote on the house floor. house speaker paul ryan is pushing for a republican compromise he says instead. >> a discharge petition will result in no law. this effort to get our members to come to a common ground is the best chance at law. our members, they're not here just to pass the time. they're here to make law to make a difference, to fix problems. >> okay, joining us now is one of the lawmakers behind that immigration petition. republican congressman carlos carbello of florida.
congressman, thank you very much for being here. just a quick warning, i may have to interrupt you at some point because the president is getting ready to head off to the g-7. we want to get his comments. in the meantime, let's you and i talk. are you on the verge of a breakthrough today? >> good morning from the capitol where many are saddened at the news of anthony bourdain. where there is a ray of optimism when it comes to immigration because it appears that the house will act on immigration in the coming weeks one way or the other. two very good things are wa happening right now. as we heard from the speaker, he's working on building a compromise among house republicans. we're engaged with that effort. we think it's been worthwhile. we've had positive discussions. at the same time, we have this discharge petition instrument, which is very powerful and which is on the verge of having the 218 signatures that it needs. that would also guarantee a vote on the house floor. we're working on both these tracks. this is important to americans
who want to see more border security put an end to the drug and human trafficking, to americans who want to find a solution to the daca population. these young immigrants who were brought to this country as children. and for many americans who would like to see both. we are on the verge of meaningful action in the house for the first time in a long time. >> are you going to get those three votes? are you confident you're going to get those three votes or have you gone as far as you can? >> no. i know there are republicans who are willing to sign -- >> i'm sorry to do this for you. we have the president walking out right now. let's listen to him. [ inaudible question ] >> it seems it's coming out on my birthday. maybe that's appropriate. look, he's a very dishonest man. i've been saying it for a long
time. i think i did our country a great favor when i fired him. we'll see what happens. we'll see what the report says. but i guess it just got announced it's coming out on june 14th. so that will be maybe a nice birthday present, who knows. [ inaudible question ] >> we're going to deal with the unfair trade practices. if you look at what canada and mexico, the european union, all of them have been doing to us for many, many decades, we have to change it. they understand it's going to happen. [ inaudible question ] >> we are going to do very well. now, if we're unable to make a deal, we'll terminate nafta. we'll have a better deal. if we're unable to make a deal, we will be better off. right now, we are not going to live with the deals the way they are. european union treats us very unfairly. canada, very unfairly.
mexico, very unfairly. with that being said, i think we'll probably very easily make a deal. [ inaudible question ] >> i didn't say that. i said i've been preparing all my life. i always believe in preparation. but i've been preparing all my life. you know, these one week preparations, they don't work. just ask hillary what happened to her in the debates. i've been preparing for this all my life. frankly, it's just fake news. if you run, peter, just a little bit longer the clip you would see i've been preparing all my life. i said that. but, you know, the news doesn't pick that up. it's fake news. [ inaudible question ] >> it's very interesting they caught a leaker in a very important -- it's a very important leaker. so it's very interesting. i'm getting information on it now. it happened last night.
it could be a terrific thing. i know i believe strongly in freedom of the press. i'm a big, big believer in freedom of the press. but i'm also a believer in classified information. it has to remain classified. that includes comey and his band of thieves who leaked classified information all over the place. so i'm a very big believer in freedom of the press, but i'm also a believer you cannot leak classified information. [ inaudible question ] >> i think it's very sad. in fact, i want to extend to his family my heartfelt condolences. that was very shocking. when i woke up this morning, anthony bourdain is dead. i enjoyed his show. he was quite a character, i will say. so i want to extend my condolences. and, also, to the family of kate spade. [ inaudible question ]
>> maybe. you can call it anything you want. it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter what you call it. it used to be the g-8 because russia was in it. now russia's not in it. now, i love our country. i have been russia's worst nightmare. if hillary got in, i think putin is probably going, man, i wish hillary won. you see what i do. but with that being said, russia should be in this meeting. why are we having a meeting without russia being in the meeting? and i would recommend -- it's up to them. but russia should be in the meeting, should be a part of it t. you knit. whether you like it or not, and it may not be politically correct, we have a world to know. they threw russia out. they should let russia come back
in. because we should have russia at the negotiating table. [ inaudible question ] >> say it, what? [ inaudible question ] >> i may leave a little bit early. it depends on the timing. i may leave a little bit early. and it depends what happens here. look, all of these countries have been taking advantage of the united states on trade. you saw where canada charges our dairy farmers 270% tariffs. we don't charge them, or if we do, it's like, a tiny percentage. so we have to straighten it out. we have massive trade deficits with almost every country. we will straighten that out. and i'll tell you what, it's what i do. it won't even be hard. and in the end, we'll all get along. but they understand. you know, they're trying to act like, well, we fought with you in the war. they don't mention the fact that
they have trade barriers against our farmers. they don't mention the fact that they're charging almost 300% tariffs. when it all straightens out, we'll all be in love again. [ inaudible question ] >> there will be more pardons. i thought alice yesterday was beautiful. i thought jack johnson which was recommended by sylvester stallone and some great boxers, i thought jack johnson was a great one. i'm thinking about somebody that you all know very well, and he went through a lot. and he wasn't very popular then -- >> is it oj? >> he wasn't very popular -- i'm not thinking about oj. but he's not -- only you could say oj. but he was -- look, he was not very popular then. i'm thinking about muhamed ali.
i'm thinking about that seriously. and some others and some folks whose have sentences that aren't fair. i am thinking about muhamed ali. in fact, we're doing right now recommendations on, you know, muhamed ali. [ inaudible question ] >> no. no. i'm not above the law. i never want anybody to be above the law. but the pardons are a very positive thing for a president. i think you see the way i'm using them. yes, i do have an absolute right to pardon myself. but i'll never have to do it because i didn't do anything wrong. and everybody knows it. there's been no collusion. there's been no obstruction. it's all a made up fantasy. it's a witch hunt. no collusion, no obstruction, no nothing. now, the democrats have had massive collusion, massive obstruction, and they should be investigated.
we'll see what's happening, yeah? [ inaudible question ] . >> i haven't even thought about it. i haven't thought about any of it. it's far too early to be thinking about that. they haven't been convicted of anything. there's nothing to pardon. it far tooarly to be thinking about it. [ inaudible question ] >> scott pruitt is doing a great job within the walls of the epa. we're setting records. outside he's being attacked viciously by the press. i'm not saying he's blameless, but we'll see what happens. [ inaudible question ] >> that's what i want to do. we have 3,000 names. we're looking at them. of the 3,000 names, many of those names really have been treated unfairly. you know, this is a group of 3,000 that we've assembled.
i would get more thrill out of pardoning people nobody knows. like alice yesterday. i thought kim kardashian was great because she brought alice to my attention. the way she left that jail and the tears and the love she has with our family, to me that was better than any celebrity that i can pardon. so we're looking at it. we're looking at literally thousands of names of people that have come to our attention that have been treated unfairly or where their sentence is far too long. [ inaudible question ] >> i didn't invite him. i didn't invite lebron james. i didn't invite steph curry. we're not going to invite either team. but we have other teams that are coming. you know, if you look we had alabama. we had clemson, national champion. we had the new england patriots.
we have the pittsburgh penguins last year. i think we'll have the caps, we'll see. my attitude, if they want to be here, it's the greatest place on earth, i'm here. if they don't want to be here, i don't want them. [ inaudible question ] >> if you like at what paul ryan is saying, it didn't come out that way. the fact is, they had people in our campaign. they had people doing things that have never been done in the history of this country. it's a disgrace. frankly, that stuff is just starting to come out. [ inaudible question ] >> fire who? we'll see what happens. [ inaudible question ] >> mitt romney said what? we're doing well. look, mitt's a straight shooter. whether people love him or don't
love him mitt romney is a straight shooter. yeah, that's a very nice thing to say, i appreciate that. that's good. [ inaudible question ] >> i love canada, but they treat us unfairly on trade. very, very unfairly. you see the numbers. almost 300% on dairy. so they treat us unfairly. are you all guys going? you better get going, peter, wel leave withoyou. [ inaudible question ] >> i would only do a deal if i get it through congress. i wouldn't do like obama did. fortunately he wasn't able to get it through. he tried to get it through, the iran deal. he tried to get it through congress, failed, so he just did it without. which is why i was able to break it up so easy. and iran is now a different country. they're not looking to the
mediterranean anymore. iran is a much different country. [ inaudible question ] >> i really do. i support senator gardner. i think exactly what he's doing. we're looking at it. i probably will end up supporting that, yes. [ inaudible question ] >> first lady is great. right there. she has to. she wanted to go. can't fly for one month. the doctors say. she had a big operation. that was close to a four hour operation. and she's doing great. right there. you know what? she is a great first lady. [ inaudible question ] >> terrible. we'll be talking to them. that's terrible. any other questions? [ inaudible question ] >> was one of my lawyers --
incredible you can break into a lawyer's office. that's one thing i can say. i think that was unfortunate that they broke into a lawyer's office. not a good practice. [ inaudible question ] >> this is a democrat bill. the democrats can end that very quickly. all they have to do is sit down with us and negotiate the real bill that allows us to keep criminals out of this country. it's very easy. you know, schumer is a guy, he complains but he doesn't do anything. schumer's a guy who is an obstructer. he can't do anything, all he can do is obstruct. all they have to do is call us and we'll draw a bill that gives us great border safety and security and is fair. i don't like the children being separated from the parents. i don't like it. i hate it. but that's a democrat bill that we're enforcing. we can change it in one day. all they have to do is come and see us.
[ inaudible question ] >> i can't hear your question, too much competition. you're not prepared. i can't believe she's not prepared. see, they're shocked, right? [ inaudible question ] >> we'll bring it up, yeah. we'll bring it up. [ inaudible question ] >> i have work. i have about 15 boxes of work. i will be able to work without being bothered by phone calls where you people are writing fake stories about me and we have to respond. now, seriously, i have a lot of work that's on the plane. [ inaudible question ] >> look, rudy is great. rudy is rudy. rudy is doing a very good job actually. doing a very good job. [ inaudible question ] >> he said what? inaudible question ] >> i'm not going to disagree with him on that.
[ inaudible question ] >> i can't hear a word he's saying. [ inaudible question ] >> he wasn't, but i like dennis. a great rebounder. when you think dennis was a great rebounder and he wasn't relatively speaking that tall. so that tells you, you know, there's a rebounding, there's a genius for that. dennis rodman was a great rebounder. one thing we are thinking about -- speaking of sports stars -- the power to pardon is a beautiful thing. you got to get it right. you've got to get the right people. i am looking at muhamed ali. those are the famous people. and in one way it's easier and people find it fascinating. but i want to do people that are unfairly treated, like alice where she comes out -- it's something beautiful. what i'm thinking to do, you have a lot of people in the nfl
in particular, but in sports leagues, they're not proud enough to stand for our national anthem. i don't like that. what i'm going to do is i'm going to say to them instead of talk, it's all talk, talk, talk. we have a great country, you should stand for our national anthem. you shouldn't go in a locker room when our national anthem is played. i am going to ask all of those people to recommend to me -- because that's what their protesting. people that they think were unfairly treated by the justice system. i understand that. i'm going to ask them to recommend to me people that were unfairly treated. friends of theirs or people they know about and i'm going to take a look at those applications. if i find -- if my committee finds they're unfairly treated, we will pardon them or at least let them out. [ inaudible question ] >> i don't have to do that.
i'm not looking to grandstand. we have enough grandstanders in this town. i'm saying if the players, if the athletes have friends of theirs or people they know about that have been unfairly treated by the system, let me know. [ inaudible question ] >> you know, if you think about it, that's really -- that becomes celebrity advocates. but you know a lot of things that we're not going to know, they've seen a lot of abuse and they've seen a lot of unfairness. if they have, how do you like that idea, david? [ inaudible question ] >> no, i have the absolute right. i don't have to do it. never did anything wrong. you know that better than anybody. [ inaudible question ] >> i think you have a double edge. reporters can't leak. you cannot leak classified information. at the same time, we need freedom of the press.
you cannot leak. like hillary clinton did, like comey did. you cannot leak classified information. if you look at the young man he went to jail over not classified. it's very unfair that he goes to jail and that comey is allowed to do it. thank you much, i'll see you in canada. >> okay. you've been listening to president trump there riffing on a wide range of subjects. that's the longest i can remember him speaking to reporters for a while now. >> it's a 20 minute news conference. >> it was. reporters asked him from pardons, to north korea to the g-7, including we got a headline there about the first lady's health. let's bring back our panel. many headlines. which one would you like to talk about? >> goodness. one of the most interesting
things was the -- he wants the return of russia to the g-7. used to be the g-8. this is yet another example of how he has been favorable towards russia. i mean, this is something russia wants very much. vladmir putin was deeply offended to be thrown out of the g-8 because of his annexation and the whole ukraine policy. you know, putin's winning with trump in office. >> speaking of him, in fact, more favorably and kim jong-un more favorably than the allies, you know, macron and canada today and the e.u. >> the contrast between the way he talks about our allies, france, canada, and the way he one of the worst lears in s recent wld hto is one of the amazing things about this president. >> yeah, there was so many different topics. i'm going to try to go through
more of them. to me, this was a supremely confident president trump walking onto marine one. he was going to answer whatever you asked him. he felt 100% sure that what he said wasn't going to be controversi controversial. at least if it was, he was proud to say it. he talked about james comey in harsh words. what stuck out to you? >> overall i share your impression there. this is somebody who is very happy with the way he's positioned himself as he hits the world stage, both at the g-7 and in singapore. he seems pleased with where he's at. there were a few things there. one thing that stuck out at me was this pardon issue. he talked about quite a bit throughout that entire press availability. he said he -- it sounded like he's looking at 3,000 non-violent drug offenders, perhaps to go through some sort
of process and see if he can issue pardons. he doesn't want to just do celebrities, yet he time and time again kept attaching himself to one of the most famous and beloved celebrities that has ever lived in muhamed ali. >> all right. tony, your impressions? >> i'll put two things together. the president was talking about pardons, but it sounds like he's pardoned vladmir putin. to go back to where jeff was, this is extraordinary. you know, we got no collusion. bob muller is going to figure that out. forget about what happened in the past, there's collusion right now in terms of advancing russia's most profound objectives. when he says he's vladmir putin's biggest nightmare, it's the opposite. the president is dividing us from our own allies, exactly what president putin would like to see happen. i think what i take away from
this is it'se a very good day fr vladmir putin. >> he says he's not going to need to pardon himself. he also talked about james comey and rudy his personal attorney who said all kinds of things overseas. he said rudy is rudy. >> you know, it is worth remembering that president obama, remember him, he was the one before trump, he said -- he had a policy where he issued commutation to more than a thousand non-violent offenders. the idea you might pardon non-violent drug offenders is an admirable one. i hope the president continues it. it's not a new idea. what a new idea is this one by one celebrity sponsored pardons. what's new is this idea of pardoning dead people. jack johnson.
potentially muhammad ali which are symbolic and interesting but of relatively practical significance. >> can we go back to the russia investigation comments he made for one second? just to note, the president tweeted this morning he was on his way to the g-7 and on to north korea and he's going to be done talking for a while about what he calls a witch-hunt or the russia hoax. i didn't clock how long that lasted, that silence on that topic. he was all too eager to take the questions and answer no obstruction, no collusion and talk about the investigation. >> yeah. he did avoid the word spy, though, david. he danced around it. he said things are going to come out -- they did something in my campaign you've never seen before in the history of the country. he didn't use the word spy. i thought that was notable because so many republicans have come out and broken with what has been their practice thus far to say no, actually there's no evidence of that.
>> we'll see if that lasts. you don't usually see president trump retreat from any of the theories he puts forth. you're right to note that. perhaps he will look to see if he continues to sort of alter that language because of that blowback. that would be out of character. >> there was an extraordinary exchange toward the beginning there where the president was asked about comments he made that are recorded for the whole world to see that he's not doing much more preparation for the north korea summit. it's not about preparation, it's about attitude. he told a recorder, peter alexander, i think that he never said it. he's been preparing his whole life for this. >> you know, the truth is it's both. he's right that you want to gauge the person on the other side of the table. but hopefully you've actually backed that up with a tremendous amount of preparation. this is incredibly complicated stuff. we know for sure that kim jong-un's been preparing.
he knows the file. i hope the president does too. if you're going to get into a negotiation, you better know the facts and know what you're talking about. you know, when he says he's been preparing his whole life, i don't think he was thinking about north korea in his previous career. hopefully he's digested some of the stuff now. when he says that when i was in government, boy i wasted a lot of time spending all those times meeting with president obama. >> you know, this whole issue of preparation, you know, the president says i've been preparing his whole life. when you're talking about denuclearization, you have to know what factories, what do they make, how are nuclear weapons assembled, what is necessary. how long does it take to deassemble, how many different facilities -- >> why are you bothering us with details? >> does he know the details of the various agreements that --
>> come on, guys. none offer this this is going . this is not how the president negotiates. he's transactional. he'll go in with an overarching issue, are you going to do this and then they'll shake hands and have a photo op and that's it. >> that may be. the question is, will there be a safer north korea. and without knowing the details of what north korea will or will not do, we don't know whether there will be any actual difference in the real world. >> that remains to be seen. >> jeffrey, tony, david thanks so much for being with us. a very, very busy morning here at cnn to be sure. >> a very sad morning. >> very sad morning. >> the horrible breaking news about our friend, anthony bourdain who died last night. we have been trying to wrap our heads around it as the entire cnn family has. obviously, we'll be covering that as well. "cnn newsroom" with pamela brown will pick up after this very
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we begin with breaking news that hits very close to home for us at cnn. good morning, i'm pamela brown. anthony bourdain, the host of cnn's parts unknown, has died. the award winning and incredibly talented story teller, writer, traveller and chef was found this morning in his hotel room in france. he took his own life. he was there shooting an upcoming episode of his show. his death is a shock to family, friends and fans worldwide. let's start with alex mark hart with more on bourdain's life and career. alex? >> reporter: that's right. this is such a terrible shock. not just for those of us here in the cnn family, but really for his legion of fans around the world. we so often use the word unique. that i