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beguiling question of why the president of the united states is once again trying to go soft on russia, saying they need a seat at the table at a g-7. it just doesn't make sense. hopefully he can help us understand. thanks very much and join chris tonight. qcuomo prime time, 9:00 p.m. eastern. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, donald trump takes a stand for russia. this as he publicly fights with america's closest allies with friends like these, who needs enemies? plus breaking news, robert mueller hits paul manafort and the russians with new criminal charges. the first time an american and russian have been indicted together. plus, remembering friend and colleague, anthony bourdain. i'm going to speak to a world renowned chef and a close friend about tony's life and passion. let's go "outfront."
good evening. "outfront" tonight, trump sticking up for russia and sticking it to allies. the president stunning the world by insisting russia should be allowed back into the leading group of industrialized nations. the g-7. >> i have been russia's worst nightmare. with that being said, russia should be in the -- whether you like it or not and it may not be politically correct. but we have a world to run. and in the g-7, which used to be b the g-8, they threw russia out. they should let them come back in. you know who disagrees? all the allies he's meeting with right now at the g-7 summit. angela merkel telling reporters that the eu countries agree this can't happen and canada adding quote, there are no grounds whatsoever for bringing russia with its current behavior back into the g-7. the then g-8 through russia out for good reason. john mccain in a blistering
statement suh sums it up this way. putin chose to make russia unworthy by invading ukraine and an exings crimea. russia is assaulting democratic institutions all over the world, but the message the president gave this morning wasn't the one he gave when actually facing world leaders. >> we want to thank you. helpful today. i also want to congratulate you. because i'm reading what's beginning on in france. you've got good courage. you're going to right thing. nothing's easy. what you're doing is the right thing and it's a wonderful country. a special country and you have a special president. that, i can tell you. thank you very much. >> so the president has one message at home and quite a different one when he's face the to face with america's allies and leading the summit with allies early in order to head to singapore to sit down with
another adversary, the leader of north korea. so again, with friends like these, who needs enemies? jim acosta is "outfront" from quebec city. america's allies don't agree about russia. why did he bring this up in the first place? what are you hearing? >> certainly. yeah, it is unclear this was catnip for the media or just wishful speaking. he said it wasn't a plan that was discussed eed behind the s for the president to roll out this area idea bringing russia back into this idea of the g-8. then listening to the sources we've been talking to, it's unclear whether or not this i didn't do came up in any of these meetings that the president had with the world leaders in the public moments we saw today, it was asked at one point whether or not this idea of bringing russia back into the g-7 came up and the answer was no, so it seemed the president rolled out this idea. what we saw here in quebec,
kate, was canadian kabuki theatre. where they had these important issues then out in front of the camera, they pretended as if everything was just fine and dandy between the united states and these allies thr upset with the president. it's surreal to be covering a president like this. not welcome the odd man out described as the g-6 plus one. butti but earlier this afternoon when he was meeting with justin trudeau, the president said speaking of his early departure, he said justin trudeau may be happy i'm leaving early. that might have been the truest thing that was said all day. >> albeit he's making joke at the same time. great to see you. thanks. >> truth behind it. >> right. "outfront" tonight, samantha, former senior adviser to president obama's national security counsel and steven moore is here.
former senior economic adviser and elian johnson. she's travel wg the president. then on to singapore. so follow her because she's racking up miles right now. steve, nothing has changed since russia was kicked out of the g-86789 if anything, russia has offered more reasons to keep them and bring them in. as we're now seeing, no one at the g-7 agrees that russia should be allowed to back into the fold. is donald trump making a mistake here? >> the answer i get was russia can be allowed back when they start atoning for their sins. that means pulling out of ukraine and other issues that we've had with russia for a long time. so it was not a popular idea. i'm not exactly sure why donald trump proposed it.
i'm an old reagan war era. they've got a soviet leader still running russia. just not a situation where we should be making nice to them. >> sam, what's your view on this? have you seen a tactic like this? >> this really sounds like something the president made up on the spot. the truth is, we should let russia back in. and make it the g-8, but to steve's point, russia has to do something to deserve it. their invasion of crimea is one issue that not only leaders were gengs, so was congress. bipartisan sanctions were passed against russia because of their invasion of ukraine and other malign activities around the world. so republicans in congress were against this. democrats were against it.
the g-7 were against it. and donald trump's old national security adviser, john bolton, is also very antirussia. >> today, it seems president trump was offering up suggestions on this. by trying to prove that he has street crede here. just listen. >> i have been russia's worst nightmare. if hillary got in, i think putin has gone, man, i wish hillary won because you see what i do. . >> what's your take? you've opened the mind of a man. why do you think he brought it up? >> it seems like an ad hoc
comment then calling around to aides tonight, they were reluctant on why the president might have said this because they said it wasn't something that had been discussed internally and it seemed like a one off remark and the president didn't seem to add too much s substance to that before he came to this summit today. so it's difficult to make too much of it without a sort of any background discussion in the white house and the president did seem like he was talking out of both sides of his mouth saying we should welcome russia back into the world community, the g-7, but on the other hand, that she's russia's worth nightmare, so it's difficult to understand what exactly his message was supposed to be. >> it does though, seem another example of the president like offering concessions to adversaries and at the same time, kicking during the eye of allies. let's focus on trade. how that's been playing out. a new quinnipiac poll shows most are opposed tariffs and overall,
voters are disapproving of how the president is is handling trade. why is it beneficial to antagonize everyone around the table? >> i'm going to defend president now because this is something and by the way, i don't always agree with him on trade. number one, this was a big issue during the campaign. from the the day that donald trump started run ining for president, he'd be around as an unorthodox republican really challenges these deals we have with some of the european countries and asian countries and nafta as well. he called it the worst trade deal f. i happen to disagree. the point is that donald trump basically said i'm going to negotiate better trade deals and that play in pennsylvania and ohio and michigan and these states. so partly what he is doing here is fulfilling a promise that he would negotiate better trade dea deals. number two, what i would say to these leerds leaders is welcome
to america first because donald trump is a president and i happen to agree with him on this. puts american workers and american businesses before the interests of the europeans and the canadians and mexicans and chinese. that was a pretty popular positi position. he's going to force them to pay more. they don't like the fact the united states isn't going to pay this money for this crazy deal he's require iing these to pay more. he's saying the europeans and some of these countries have not reduced their tariffs the way they promised to. and those things. t an america first policy and i think the american people are with thim on this. >> i don't think it's an america first policy. i'm going to disadwrgree on the national security points, but it is a fact these decisions are bringing our friends and enemies closer together. you look at putin's speech at
the st. petersburg economic forum. when he was it sitting nooex to macron. you have macron, putin and the chinese saying the same things about the united states. so we just have to be aware these decisions are bringing our rivals, russia and china, very much closer countries that we're supposed to be on side with and we're being left alone in the penalty box. >> are things turning out to be with the leaders as awkward as everything thought? looking at the twitter back and forth? >> the president has good chemistry with trudeau and emanuel macron. i think you is that true today, but i don't think that makes up for the damage his tariff pol y policies doing. the president didn't want the come. he's e departing early. you saw him make remarks that
would make his reluctance, that would make the summit even more uncomfort bable. bring his reluctance to life. at this point, he's going to get a bter reception from the north koreans than he was going to get from our european allies here. the president is clearly aware of that. >> i think there's a historical parallel with reagan's first year. he wanted to get tough with the soviet union. the european leaders at the time were uncomfort bable with that position. five or six years later, he was extremely popular in europe. we may be seeing the first
couple of -- this could evolve into a closer relationship over time. >> i can't wait for the seventh inning stretch. next, breaking news. a new indictment by robert mueller. is this getting closer to the president? plus, the epa chief's growing list of scandals reportedly sending aides to buy his favorite lotion used at ritz carlton hotels of all places, so why does the president still have his back? >> scott pruitt is doing a great job within the walls of the epa. >> and heartbreaking news. the death of cnn's anthony bourdain. i'm going to speak with his friend and fellow chef about his legacy.
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tonight, new charges in the russia investigation. paul manafort and close business associate with ties to russian intelligence now charged with b obstruction of justice and conspiracy. it marks the first time an american and russian have been indicted together. this means a total of 20 people have been indicted or admitteded guilt now. shimon, what else do we know about the charges and the russian now named in this? more bad news here for paul manafort. these two new charges represent the latest effort. appears by prosecutors to put pressure on manafort to make a deal and cooperate with them. now it was just days ago that
prosecutors had accused manafort of witness tampering, essentially saying he was trying to get people to lie to prosecutors to help his case. mueller and the special counsel team has asked the judge to he's due in court next week where a judge could decide whether he's going to go back to jail. now the other man who b has been charged with manafort is a russi russian named konstanin kilimnick. he's facing the same charges as manafort. the key is that the fbi considers him to be a russian
kloclosely tied to the russians. that's a key part. sfl great to see you. thank you so much. now, harry sendek. how significant is this? this just increases the pressure on paul manafort. the government need to convict him. they need a conviction. acquittal would be devastating. in a case like this involving paper crimes, to be able to show witness tampering provides real evidence of criminal intent that the government will need at trial. do you think this offers any indication of where mueller is in terms of wrapping things up? >> although he's made
substantial progress, it's fast, actually, we've yet to se-- you compare it to white water or watergate, much faster. but at the same time, we haven't seen charges arising out of the hillary clinton or democratic national committee e-mail leaks. we haven't seen any charngs arising out of the obstruction of justice, so they have work to do. >> did they tell you where this is headed? >> in a place that they feel they need to get manafort convicted and hopefully for their purposes, becoming a cooperating witness. later this year. because he was at the trump tower meeting where so-called collusion may have happened. >> still stunned that he would try something.
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we're setting records. being attacks viciously by the press. and i'm not saying that he's blameless, but we'll see what happens. >> here's just a sample of what's happening. the mounting of violations against pruitt. reportedly asking agents to pick up his dry cleaning and drive around to pick up a lotion he prefers. ordering a staffer to set up a call with chick-fil-a's chairman to help his wife get a franchise and asking an aide to help him buy a used mattress from the trump hotel in washington. now, joan walsh and jason miller. can you find a reason to continue defend scott pruitt now? >> absolutely. i think the president was very candid and right to the point when asked the question b about administrator pruitt today. he said scott pruitt is doing a great job within the walls of the epa and the president's
points out the deregulation. the paris deal. i think he's doing very good b job with that. there's the misleading story that proout was spending a bunch of money to go to the g-p meeting anduin the chick-fil-a story is way overblown. it's not as if he was asking for free chick-fil-a for life. he made a phone call because his wife wanted to purchase a franchise. that he needs to make some of these headlines go away and not have some come up. these are goofy. you can't send staffers on these runs for you. you're going to have a higher degree of scrutiny at this level
and the administrator has to be extra careful. >> of course i want to get you to jump in, but on the money issue, put g-7 aside. he's spent like double what they've spent previous epa administrators have spent on an annual basis. and that trip that people say he spent less than mccarthy, she brought a much larger contingent of her staff. the campaign campaigned on draining the swamp. he is the swamp. i don't understand why the president can't say we don't ak ceme accept that. i'm sorry, but calling when you are a cabinet member calling and say, oh, my wife would like a chick-fil-a franchise, that's not acceptable. it's using your power. >> joan, people buy chick-fil-a
franchises every single day. >> but not as a cabinet member. she could call up herself. delicious. she could do that herself. why would you do that? on a broader issue. on the border issue what the president compliments on is because he's pushing his agenda. what's the difference then between jeff sessions and scott pruitt? because jeff sessions is doing a good job of pushing the president's agenda at the justice department and the president goes out of his way to attack him. twhas difference. >> i think jeff sessions is doing a fantastic job when it comes to fighting gangs like ms
13 and cracking down on illegal immigrati immigration. i think there are concerns with in particular, some house members who have been trying to get records from the doj. that they've been getting stone walled. that's one thing where jeff sessions i think could get those released. i think there's also the concern that there's not enough that's being done to look into the abuses of the fbi and the doj from the previous administration. i think there should be a second special counsel. that should be formed in this case. so i can see where people could be frustrated edfrustrated, bu doing a pretty good job. >> who goes first? >> i don't think either. he knows he can't replace
sessio sessions. he said we're not confirming an attorney general. he love, he finds nothing wrong with what pruitt is doing. they stay. >> real quick. jason, final thought. wouldn't someone else, if donald trump is just done with this nonsense, this swampiness. i'm sure he could find someone to push his agenda without the nonsense. >> absolutely. >> i don't think either is going anywhere. i think scott pruitt is doing a fantastic job and i think he's been absolutely fearless with taking on the washington establishment. with taking on the bureaucrats. he hasn't blinked when whether it's taking on the occupy wall street people who have been putting out his home address out to the free world. i think he's doing dpragreat at that. >> the occupy wall street people have been tweeting his address. these people are nuts. >> okay. but fearless and pushing his agenda, but also fearless a
anding. keeping the swamp going. some of the stuff, it's crazy. >> thank you. "outfront" next, anthony bourdain, remembering anthony bourdain. my next guest worked side by side with the chef. plus. trump and kim jong-un about to meet face-to-face. we'll take you inside the me meeting venue and the mysterious question, who is paying for kim's hotel room? feel the clarity of non-drowsy claritin and relief from symptoms caused by over 200 allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones.
zblncht tonight, everyone here has a heavy heart learning our colleague took his life overnight in france. he was there filming an upcoming episode and tributes are pouring in from friends and colleagues who knew him best. connecting people over a meal. erica hill is "outfront." >> i don't know what this is. i love you, noodles. >> called the original rock star of the culinary world, the elvis of bad boy chefs. anthony bourdain was a cultural icon. >> oh, delicious. >> his mission, to explore the world. meet the most interesting people. and of course, find the best food. >> we ask very simple questions. what do you eat? what do you like to cook and everywhere in the world we go
and ask these very simple question, we tend to get some really astonishing answers. >> born in new york and raised in new jersey, he began working in kitchens as a teenager. eventually becoming a celebrity chef. >> 73. >> a best-selling author and tv host. >> what do you think? >> i love this. >> behind the success, he struggled with demons, including an addiction to heroin, which he says began in a cape cod restaurant when he was just 17. >> there was some dark genie inside me that led me to dope. >> he spoke openly about his struggles ab the person who inspired him to do better. >> i have a 7-year-old daughter now. i look ed in a mirror and i, i saw somebody worth saving. or that i wanted to at least try real hard and save. >> using his celebrity to raise awareness about opioid addiction
alopg with his advocacy, he remained a passionate explorer. you're going to, i will walk you through this. >> former president obama who joins bourdain tweet ining, he taught us about food, but more importantly, about its able toy bring us together. to make us a little less afraid of the unknown. >> people tend to be proud of their food. they let their guard down when they talk to you. even those with different belief systems. if you're going to intersect anywhere, it's going to be over food. >> erica hill, cnn, new york. >> tonight, two people who knew anthony bourdain.
chef james, a colleague and mentee of tony's. thanks so much for being here. james, you've known him for a years. where is your head and heart tonight? >> it hasn't hit me yet. still belief, actually. my wife toll me to look at the news. my phone through text messages, what's going on. still in shock. >> that's understandable. you joined him in louse for that episode of parts unknown. that's where your family fled from when you were a baby. >> what's it like being back? >> the key ingredient is the pepper one.
>> the pepper. >> unlike anything i've ever had. >> looked like so much fun you guys were having. what do you remember most about that trip? >> oh, man, just walking through the streets and just seeing his appreciation for culture. alone. tall the places he's gone. he's really engaged into the people. what's happening socially. not just food. politically as well. what's going on in the countries and he wants to me more. he's curious. that really radiates he wants to learn and that's the most best experience i ever had traveling, actually. so to have him do that for us on
tv, just brings the world closer to all of us. and that's a fantastic thing. that's what's going to be missed the most b about him. sfl that's a fan tas bic quality that was unique to him. when james saying his curiosity is something that strikes everyone, it's why it's so striking and shoging of what happened. you got to know anthony through a different way, as "the new york times" restaurant critic. what are you thinking tonight? this is a man who devoured the world. who modelled a kind of add v adventurousness. a fearlessness. there are no shortage of americans who have gone out in search of delicious foods in places they never would have beforehand. who have an appreciation. his legacy is a sort of open mindedness not just toward food, but culture. not just about food, but about
everything. and this appetite for life that makes what happened so hard to understand. i think it's important to remember that because we think we know people. from the outside. you know, we look at someone like him. who had such confidence and joy in life. a moment like this happening a couple of days after kate spade's death, it compels us to realize as we give people love and support, that we never know anyone as well as we believe we do. >> so true. he was on my show weeks ago and he seemed happier than ever. >> he always seemed happy. i think he often was happy. people are complicated and they have different moment, but what's so breaking is he's someone with extraordinary talent. talent at the kitchen, the typewriter. he was one of the most verbally dexterous human beings i ever met. when you talked to him. listened to what came out, some was insulting at times, you i want to have that fluency with
words and life. >> chef? >> yeah. the fluency with words. totally afwree. no matter what time of day, whatever situation, over drinks, sober, just the greatest like word smith. asked me like what is he like outside of the camera? he's just what he's like on the camera. and that's the beauty of him. he's unapologetically honest and a lot of people respect him for that. i respect him for that. it all gives us courage to be ourselves and be individuals that's what really radiates from him. what we get through tv, a sense of courage. >> james, he heaped high praise on you when your book came out. what do you think you learned most from him? >> the book was, i wanted to
write a refugee story. i was going to write it on my terms. my voice and tell the unfiltered stories of what he did. this ref ju kid in oakland and he gave me a full blessing and he understand. when he said not just about the food, it's about the people. that's creates a good story and what makes dish, gives it depth and i was like, wow, i never thought bt thought b about it that way. something that's just edible becomes deeper than just flavors. and just made me look at food differently.
every time i eat out. every time i go to my ooet open yan restaurant. who's cooking the food. how is this restaurant even open and cooking in the back. is it a family business? those things run in my head now because of anthony. >> what was it about anthony bourdain, frank, that made it so easy for people to open up and connect and share? the food, something else? what's the mark he leaves? >> i think his appetite for food, experience and perspectives. when he lookeded at you and at the plate, he wanted to experience something new be a larger person. a man who treated life as smorks board. in his memory, all of us should do the same. >> amen. great to see you, frank. thank you so much, james. really appreciate it. >> thank you. and ahead for us, the alarming rise in suicides across the nation. i'm going to speak with father edward beck, a familiar face here at cnn, about how suicide
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bourdain. 45,000 lives to suicide in 2016. father beck is here with me now. thank you for coming in. your father took his life. i can't imagine what today has been like for you. >> well, it makes you kind of relive it again, it was so unexpected for my father, we had no inkling that it was coming. he wasn't depressed. he was not going through emotional turmoil. he got a bad diagnosis and he felt like he didn't want to be a
burden. he left us a note. he shot himself to death. and it was really out of the blue. so when you hear again now about other people going through that emotional pain and turmoil, it raises the issues of is there something we should have seen or something we could have done. and as a catholic priest, the moral ethical stigma around it. i had to say my own father's funeral. so i couldn't really grieve at the time as a son. trying to make sense of it when there is no making sense of it. >> that's the truth. why did you want to speak out now? >> well with what happened this week, that maybe it was time to share a little bit of my own struggle with it. if it helps somebody else. people think you are a priest and you know the answer to all of these mysteries and of course i really don't. i mean, i can't say that i
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in this country. and we don't know why. >> so when people come to you and are seeking answers and guidance, how can i help, what can i do if it is their loved one that may see something, may see a problem or may see them struggling. what do you say? >> if there are signs, i refer and say you need to seek medical professional help, psychological help. encourage others to do that. if there is signs, addiction, alcoholism, you need to report it. if they can't reach out themselves, you need to help them reach out. it is the other mysterious ones where there aren't those tell-tale signs that are complexing. people who come to me deal with that sort of guilt. i would tell them, it is not
your fault and realize that that person was driven to such an extreme, at that poemt, they thought they could do no other. and for my father, he thought he was going to be a burden to my brother and me, and to the woman who he was seeing. this was for him, a gift to us saying i don't want you to have to take care of me. what he didn't realize there is a burden in that, we wanted to take care of you. we wanted to be there for you and you didn't give us that chance. >> you have been a friend for a very long time and thank you for opening up and sharing your strength and struggle. >> thank you for asking. i appreciate for it. >> we are going to share more about the life of chef and colleague anthony bourdain that
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where the historic sit-down takes place. >> reporter: president trump may feel right at home next week. the luxurious location of what some are calling the meeting of the century. trump says there will be no mar-a-lago style golf diplomacy. trying to make a deal with a man who remains much a mystery. >> i think it is a process. >> reporter: the guest list for the island's five star hotel remains a mystery too. who will foot the bill. at the fullerton, the presidential suite can cost $6,000 a night. the u.s. says it will not pay for the delegation. what is for certain. we do have clues as to who may have a seat at the table.
and that makes him a likely partner for kim on his flight to c singapore along with his trusted younger sister kim yo-jong. perhaps philippines ambassador a veteran of korean diplomacy. the entire resort is on lock down. soon, this secluded island will host two nuclear armed leaders in what promises to be a surreal first ever encounter. it's going to be quite a week in singapore, and adding to the bizarre nature, dennis rodman
has confirmed that he will be traveling to singapore. he will not be sitting at the summit table. president trump has said he is a great rebounder but not invited to participate in the talks. >> good to clarify that one. will, thank you so much. and thank you for joining us. ac 360 starts now. we learn today we lost a friend and colleague anthony bourdain, many of you who watched him feel you too lost a friend, a travel campaign. he died by suicide in north east france, 61-years old with a young daughter. he loved and was returned in return. many of you like many of us, are feeling a range of emotions. shock, sadness and confusion of a man who seemed