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but playing out while many here were still asleep. >> that's right. it has been a very long day, kim jong-un has just -- his motorcade just got into the airport, we have been following that. president trump left earlier in the day. they came, they saw, theyhook hands. they history just by having this meeting and, of course, they made promises now with the summit over, the focus on the future begins. for president trump, part of that future includes stopping something the u.s. has done for decades and somng tth hated for decades, joint military exercises with south korea. >> we will be stopping the war games, which will save us a tremendous amount of money unless and until we see the future negotiation is not going along like it should. but we'll be saving a tremendous a money, plus i think it is very provocative. >> apparently that was a real surprise for south korea. the president's office there
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issuing a statement that said in part, we need to, quote, figure out president trump's accurate meaning and intention about the exercises. kaitlan collins joins me now. this could be the biggest most substantive near term result of this summit. >> it ds seem to be, anderson. clearly the president came to the agreement with kim jong-un today, but did not inform south koreans or even the u.s. troops that are over there about this, that a involved in these military exercises, so a lot of questions still on the table and a lot of reverberations of what the president said during that press conference. i should note this was not something that was even included in the agreement that the president signed today when he sat down with kim jong-un in front of the cameras, they signed this agreement that was veryuely worded about rization. and it actually left a lot to be desired. there were -- wasagabout ins a timetable in here and continental ballistic missiles. none of that language was in the
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statement that the president signed today. instead a lot of the language mirrored what we have seen from united states and north korea. now, of course, there was language about security assurances being provided to the north koreans should they commit to denuclearization. and that is how the president brought up the fact that he wants nose drills between the south koreans and u.s. military to stop, something he called war games. that's language from pyongyang, not from the united states of america. that is the president calling those drills, which are conducted by the united states military provocative. they're provocative because of the north koreans and their nuclear arsenal and the way they provoked the united states. going back, the president making stunning remarks there, but back to this statement that he signed, it does not include what his secretary of state mike pompeo said was the clear unchanged objective, entire reason that delegation flew from washington, d.c. to singapore and that was cvid, something that the president and pompeo have both said for weeks now,
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that is complete verifiable irreversible denuclearization. that's what the united states wanted from north korea. they didn't get that in this agreement. that language is not in here. the president alluded to the fact he believes the north koreans are going to denuclearize, but he didn't give any reasons for why they should be inclined to do so or why they should be forced to do so from none of that language is in this agreement. >> joining me now, cnn global affairs analyst, former deputy secretary of state under president obama, tony blanken and ambassador joseph yun. tony, what do you think of the agreement signed today? was it a good deal for the u.s.o what gives you the most optimism? >> well, anderson, first, to put this in perspective, a few months ago it looked like we were heading toward war.
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now it is diplomacy, peace, denuclearization. that's a good thing. the president should be applauded for pursuing that. the problem is this, those who forget history are condemned to repeat it. this is an agreement they sold to us before. the president paid a lot more for it than anyone else has in the past, and in the past it has been written in vanishing ink. the very best, we're at the start of a process that has to be negotiated, and then implemented. and we are not going to know for many months if not longer whether there is any there there. i worry the president has given up a lot up front, the legitimate sy that kim jong-un has meeting with the president of the united states, the two flags flying together, backing away from pressure and backing away from joint exercises with south korea without having the decency to sell our south korean allies he's doing that. he's thrown our allies in the g-7 under the bus and backed the bus back over our south korean partners. there is a lot to be done. i'm glad he's pursuing diplomacy. right now, there is no
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there there and we'll have to see if ever is. >> ambassador, this president has a different idea about the importance that alliances play. we saw that with the g-7, but also iteems now south korea, possibly even japan. >> that's very true. and you have to be concerned about that. alliance is not just having troops there. it is the strategic interests we have. why we are in japan, why we are in south korea. >> president puts it in financial terms, you're talking about security, the u.s. security interests. >> absolutely. it isut u.s. security interests. we call these troops forward deployed troops because they are there to really to guard the outreach, outposts. and remember we're competing with china. and i think today's dropping
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this bombshell that there would be no joint exercise, if he meant that, i assume he meant that, would be, you know, applauded in beijing because probably these exercises worry china more than north korea. >> tony, i imagine also applauded in russia. this is any kind of weakening of the u.s. military posture overseas is something both china and russia would certainly like to see. >> yeah, this has been a great week for both russia and china, a great week starting for russia at the g-7 when the president managed to initiate a trade war with our closest partners and in the same breath invite russia back into the g-7, goo-8. it is a prime security rational for the united states, but there is also an economic one. there is another reason why we
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invest in the security of our partners and allies. it also means markets, stable markets for our own products. to put it in president trump's terms, he's jeopardizing the security of those markets and that will be bad for us economically, not just strategically. >> were you surprised to hear president trump talk about the beautiful beaches in north korea as potential places for condominiums? even the video that they showed and that he showed kim jong-un, it seemed almost sort of an i don't know if any other summit between world leaders where a world leader has shown a video to another world leader to sort of give them a sense of what might happen. >> you know, i don't think the sale job that started about economic benefits, about personal security, security for
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kim jonun and his family, i'm note they buy tt in any meaningful sense. and we have seen this, because they have stopped to their point from the beginning, you know. and what you see is the outcome that they're going to go the way they will define. and i'm not sure that they're going to be persuaded otherwise. so i worry about, you know, i completely agree with tony, diplomacy grew, tensions are down. are we accomplishing our objectives? you know? we bought the line that kim jong-un is serious about changing direction. there was nothing today to indicate that that is based on anything. you know? >> tony, the white house, president trump tweeted out a video that i guess the white team put together, sort of promotional video showing images -- video images from the meeting. it almost looked like something
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you could see in north korea that the regime there could have put out as well. do you think the legit maization of kim is one thing that came out of this. saying he does trust kim jong-un and that he praised him as being tough and saying he did what many young leaders c have done in taking over his country. >> absolutely. the two things, the substantive things that have come out of the summit are exactly that, the legit maization of kim jong-un, standing together, talking together, shaking hands, flags flying together and the other thing is the president fisidentp on our joint exercises with the south koreans. that's are wins for kim jong-un. when you're engaged in diplomacy, you got to immediate your adversary, sit with them,
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talk to them. i don't have a problem with that. to get nothing in return and to give up a lot right now this is not the art of the deal, it is the art of the steal. this may change. it may be that as the negotiation process begins, secretary pompeo is taking that over, we actually get somewhere. there is a long process first to negotiate concrete detailed step by step what we're going to do what they're going to do, what the verification looks like and then it has to be implemented. so we're just not going to know for many months whether there is any substance to what has been done in singapore. >> tony blinken, ambassador yun, thank you very much. back to kate in new york. >> thanks so much. back to singapore and anderson shortly. coming up for us, not just military exercises in question now. president trump also says he's looking at -- he wants u.s. troops to get o of south korea. so what is the pentagon have to say about all of this? that's next. ♪ ♪
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trump/kim meetings, one concrete detail that emerges. president trump announcing the united states will halt joint military exercises with south korea, or as the president calls them, war games. why? the president says, president trump says, because they're provocative, which is the chief critic -- critique we get from north korea all the time and because they're expensive, he says. then the president floated this. >> i want to get our soldiers out. wasn't to bring our soldiers back home. we have right now 32,000 soldiers in south korea. and i'd like to be able to bring them back home. >> cnn's pentagon correspondent barbara starr joining me now. what are you hearing from the pentagon about the military exercises? >> reporter: good morning, kate. the key question, if you take the president at his word, no u.s. troops in south korea, no u.s. military equipment, no training. it all is over. here at the pentagon, i would say a little more of a reality check. what they are looking for from the white house are the details.
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what is it exactly, precisely that the president is talking about, what does he want to have happen? all exercises, all training? you know, these exercises began many years ago as a key method for the u.s. to provide a nortorean threat.korea against what they demonstrated, the ability of the u.s., the south koreans, and allies in the region to flow large amounts of personnel and equipment into south korea very quickly in a time of crisis. so they're going to look now for the details, how soon does the president want this to happen, the next major exercise scheduled for august, just a few weeks from now is at all exercises, is it all training, and what are the implications for the allies in the region if you just put a cold stop to all of it? >> also, barbara, is the pentagon saying anything about the potential the president
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floated out there, not on the table now, but eventually he would like to pull all u.s. troops off the peninsula. >> so, what we do know is that the defense secretary mattis has repeatedly said not now. that if that were to happen, it would be a matter of negotiation between the u.s. and south korea. secretary mattis' strong view is that north korea gets no vote in the matter, it is up to south korea and the united states to negotiate any withdrawal of u.s. troop presence or to continue it. so if the president's words in effect hand that possibility over to kim jong-un, because it is going to be a security guarantee in kim's mind, that will certainly be something to consider, because as you pointed out at the beginning, kate, getting u.s. troops out of south korea and stopping the training and exercises has always been something that kim jong-un has wanted very strongly. it looks like president trump is
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giving it to him, but we still need to hear a lot of the details. >> maybe in word, but in action, we'll see. that's the -- what remains. also, the president brought up recovering the remains of prisoners of war and those missing in action. what do you know about that? >> this has been a long-standing program for many, many years. for the pentagon, to try and recover the remains of any u.s. service members that have not been recovered off any battlefield. they look at europe still from world war ii. korea, the korean war has proven exceptionally difficult about 7,000 sets of remains in a combination of still to be recovered and some reco still to be identified. it has been very tough in recent years because it has not been possible to get into north korea. those search efforts, those missions were stopped several years ago because of concerns about security, if the north koreans can let the u.s. back in with secure conditions, that is something that many families,
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many veterans would very much look forward to. >> barbara, great to see thank you so much. to get perspective on all of this, colonel layton is with us now. let's start with the troops. what would it mean to pull all u.s. troops off the peninsula? >> that would be really tough from a strategic standpoint because that is our toe hold on to mainland asia. if you don't have u.s. troops in korea, then you haveo have another line of defense. it could be japan, where of course there are already a considerable number of troops there, it could be guam, we have military bases there, it could be something in southeast asia, but it is highly unlikely we would actually put our troops into new places and it would in essence mean a strategic retreat for the united states. >> and so donald trump says that's not on the table at the moment, but something that clearly is concrete is the joint military exercises with south korea are now stopped.
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what is the real impact of that? >> so these exercises are critical for what the military calls interoperability. working together, having equipment work together as well as the people, the processes, the tactics, techniques and procedures as the military likes to describe it.sohat that means terms is if you know how to work with your counterparts, in korea, in japan, in other countries, then you know what to expect of them in a crisis situation. what would have been better instead of unilaterally saying we will stop the exercises would have been to invite the north koreans to the next series of exercises. something like that would have been a much bigger confidence builder and would have showcased the might of the united states, the might of south korea, and served as a warning to north korea that there would be consequences. >> the reasoning from the president is that it is provocative and it is expensive. in the end, when it comes to military exercises, do you see
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this potentially as something that is, i don't know, easy to dial down, easy to dial back up? a low impact concession that he can promise if -- if kim goes along with it, great, if he doesn't, exercises are on? >> well, i think that was probably the president's intent, in point of fact huge exercises like the ones that plann for august in south korea are actually ver hard to choreograph. they take years and years to plan. they take years and years to figure out which forces should be part of those exercises. how the command and control functions should work. all of those different things. and to take that out, and then put it back in on a moment's notice is very hard to do. you can do that somewhat with command post exercises, basically exercising the headquarter staffs, that doesn't mean putting forces in the field, it is a lot harder to put forces back in the field if you
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told them to go somewhere else. >> south korea, of course, i think we're all waiting to hear more from south korea and the reaction to all of this, the initial statement after president trump said all this is that they need to figure out president trump's accurate meaning and intention. is there room for interpretation of what president trump said on this? >> well, i think it is in the details. you know, sometimes when statements are made by political leaders, there is a very large gulf between what they say and what the real implementation is on the ground, and so the koreans want to figure out what the real implementation is on the ground, how that affects the with these kerr siexercises. there are units in the air force and the republic of korea air force that are actually integrated with each other. where one position is occupied by a korean and the other by an american. and to take that kind of an integration away would be very difficult for those specific
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units and their missions. and it would also be very difficult in order to actually orchestrate the kinds of things that we want to do in order to defend south korea, which, by the way, we still have treaty obligations to protect. >> seems there is a lot of fallout in just one statement coming from the president. i think that sums up pretty well the stakes here. colonel, great to see you, thank you for coming in. >> you bet, kate, absolutely. coming up for us, he starve his people, he pits political opponents in prison, he executes his own family members, but according to president donald trump, today the north korean people still quote/unquote love their dictator kim jong-un. that's next. if you have medicare parts a and b and want more coverage, guess what? you could apply for a medicare supplement insurance plan whenever you want.
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human rights record? as many as 100,000 political prisoners, men, women, children, are subjected to forced labor, torture, starvation and prison camps around the country. pyongyang officially denies the camps exist. when pressed about his discussions with kim on the subject, here is what president trump had to say today. >> he's smart. loves his people. he loves his country. he wants a lot of good things. that's why he's doing this. >> do you starve them? he's been brutal to them, he still loves his people. >> look, he's doing what he's seen done. if you look at it. but i really have to go by today and by yesterday and by a couple of weeks ago, because that's really when this whole thing started. >> certainly not everyone agrees with the president on that. they're not ready to forgive north korea's record at this point. >> i think it is important that we don't lose sight of the fact that kim jong-un is a butcher.
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and he is a butcher of his own people. and trying to reason with someone like that is like trying to hand feed a shark. doesn't mean you can't do it. but you got to do it very, very carefully. >> joining me live from washington, former cia deputydi clinger. also cnn national security analyst kelly maxman. president trump says he brought up human rights, but certainly seems to downplay kim's record, esntially says i have to go with what i saw today, what i've seen in the last couple of weeks. is that good enough? >> well, in 2014, the u.n. commission of inquiry concluded an extensive study in which they concluded tt north korean human rights violations were so widespread and systemic that they constituted crimes against humanity. and the president, i thought, gave a very moving speech about human rights violations during
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his visit to south korea last year as well as during the state of the union address this year. and who can forget the really heard rending vision of otto warmbier's parents that he called out during his speech. it is a situation that still continuing and indeed kim jong-un is on the u.s. sanctions list for human rights violations. >> kelly, i mean, you know, other presidents in the past, fdr met with stalin, nixon, you know, met in china, is it appropriate the comments that the president made, one thing to meet with kim jong-un to negotiate, the president did seem to praise him and go out of his way to praise him. do you think that was part of the negotiation or do you think it was inappropriate? >> i mean, sometimes you have to get down in the mud with your adversaries to advance your interests, but i was struck by the affinity and the flattery that president trump displayed with kim jong-un.
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i mean, we have to remember that, you know, this is one of the worst human rights offenders in the world, if not the worst, you know, over 100,000 political prisoners, you know, in detention and labor camps, we're talking about forced rape, torture, et cetera. not tomention, you know, forced abortions and things like that. it is a pretty despicable situation. ie to admityou know, there are some images from the summit that really turned my stomach. but, you know, yeah, you have to deal with these things, you have to address the nuclear issue, but certainly, you know, the north korean people have a lot at stake as well. and if diplomacy starts to fail and go badly, i actually think the human rights impact could be even worse for the korean people down the line. >> bruce, during the summit, president trump showed kim jong-un a video, showing the potential for more prosperous north korea. i'll show our viewers some of that video as well.
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do you think the financial incentive is something that appeals to kim jong-un is it more about security and him maintaining his own power? >> well, kim certainly wants to relax the international pressure which has been ramped up, particularly in the last two years. but north korean officials have told me that, you know, they have nuclear weapo violation of u.n. resolutions and previous commitments because of what they say is the u.s. hostile policy, their fear of being attacked like a rock in yugoslavia. they said no amount of economic benefits can compensate for that fear of security. so -- and also they are -- the regime is very fearful of opening up the country to what they depict as the contagion of outside influence. and kim jong-un, as ifssib rther tightened restrictions of his predecessors against even the inflow of information from the outside world. they fear it could lead to dangerous ideas and lead to a
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collapse such as we saw in eastern europe. >> it is interesting, the president brought up, you know, real estate, beautiful beaches in north korea, the potential economic opportunities, how much do you think the kim regime is interested in opening up to foreign businesses, to the world essentially, how much would they -- would he see that as a threat to his stranglehold on power? >> i think that's a good quesanderson. i agree with bruce, i think security is a much more paramount issue for kim jong-un than economic opening. it could potentially destabilize the regime. it is also not clear how much of that economic development would actually get to the people of north korea and how much would really be going to the elites in pyongyang sort of folks who are loyal to kimong-un and the kim jong-un family. so i'm very skeptical on the economic opening aspect and the argument there, i think kim
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jong-un is far more interested in long-term security assurance appreciate your time, thank you so much. to kate bolduan in new york. >> coming up for us, president for the dictator and new warning for the prime minister of canada. president trump's in jab and threat against an american ally. that's next. sleep disturbances keep one in three adults up at night. only remfresh uses ion-powered melatonin to deliver up to seven hours of sleep support. number one sleep doctor recommended remfresh. your nightly sleep companion. available in the natural sleep section at walmart.
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liberty mutual insurance. right now, president trump is on his way back to the u.s. after the historic meeting with kim jong-un. what happened behind closed doors? we have to take the president's word for it since there was no official record made, no papers to tear up and tape back together again. the president says no need to worry. >> are there any recordings of it? i wish there were.
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one of the great memories of all time. i don't have to. >> so while that is unclear, one thing seems quite clear, president trump today has a better relationship with north korea's dictator than he does with canada's prime minister. just watch. >> we have developed a very special bond. >> he is very talented. >> you trust him? >> i do trust him, yeah. >> he's got a great he'sou know, a funny guy, very smart guy, a great negotiator. he loves his people, not that i'm surprised by that. >> all of that president trump is not saying about u.s. ally. instead, that's the praise he for kim jong-un. so what then is president trump now saying about canada's justin trudu? >> he gav out a little bit of an obnoxious thing. illy like justin. i think he's good. i like him. but he shouldn't have done that. that was a mistake. that's going to cost him a lot of money. >> so where are we now? is the world just completely flip-flopped, turned upside down? joining me to discuss, cnn political commentator,
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republican strategist alice stewart and samantha vinograd. thank you for being here. sam, the marker going into the meeting with kim jong-un was complete verifiable, irreversible denuclearization. that's not what the president got coming out. that's part rocess they're saying, this is not a one time deal. he got g, kind of, like joint statements that they have put out in past negotiations. do you see this as progress? >> i think it could be progress. i think we're going to have to wait for history to write whether this was a fool's errand or if it will result in long-tm stability. i'm worried about the systemic precedent set yesterday and we can call this a north korea model if you will. kim jong-un s rallying cry to proliferators and sociopaths around the world that if you push the envelope up to the brink of war, if you're that close, then what do you get? you get a summit, you get selfies, and you get concessions
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from the united states like postponing or canceling military exercises. so i'm really worried about the long-term signal that was sent yesterday to what it takes to get the united states to give you what you want. >> to pay attention to you. alice, the reaction from republicans, lindsey graham, said he thinks that we coming out of this stronger, but also listen to marco rubio. >> he obviously, i would imagine, doesn't truly believe the guy is that talented. he inherited the family business from his father a grandfather. the family business is dictatorship. he didn't earn it. he inherited it. i think the president is trying to butter the guy up to make it easier to get a deal with him. >> conservative voice erick erickson offered this, alice, if obama had had the last 24 hours that trump had, the gop would be demanding his impeachment. you say what? >> sure. i think we all wish that there were more concessions on the table before going into it. more things that were agreed to
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before they sat down. but, look, this is the president's s of doing business. he was elected to do things in an unprecedented fashion. let's say the last three or four days have been extremely unprecedented with regard to how he's treating our alli our adversaries. look, when you're go naging int deal, you're not going to be critical of them. you're going to say things flattering to him. i do believe -- >> you can go into a deal and hold people acc and say this is what you need to get anything from us. >> i think secretary pompeo laid the ground work for something that will be historic and he's been very clear, as you said this needs to be any type of nuclear deal needs to be complete, verifiable and irreve. i think those are three concessions that we're not going to give up and in order for us to say this is a done deal, those things have to be met and we have to have measurable, tangible concrete evidence that that is being done in order for us to say that this is a good
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deal. look, the president is taking the first step, this has not been done in the past, we cannot continue to just say we're not going to talk to people who are adversaries to us, and expect to this is an important step. i'm optimistically cautious, but the key is on optimism, because i think this was a very, very good st, but we are a long, long way from complete denuclearizaon in -- >> we sure are. sam, let me play a quick clip, the president had created, and showed to kim jong-un during this meeting. listen. >> the story is well known. but what will be the -- destiny pictures presents a story of opportunity. a new story, a new beginning, one of peace, two men, two leaders, one destiny. >> two men, two leaders, one destiny.
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this is -- he showed kim this on an ipad during a meeting. do you think this works? >> i think both men like propaganda. i think he was playing to something he knows that kim jong-un likes, which is this whole notion of being a major player on the world stage. but i want to come back to something that alice said because we actually have been here before. what is going to differentiate this potential diplomatic breakthrough from other instances in the past where we have had negotiations start, we talked about denuclearization, is whether there is an expiration date on this process and whether we're going to say we're going to negotiate but if something doesn't happen by name your date, we're going to go to other options. >> those other options do not look good from anyone's vantage point. another me too question from bill clinton and another answer that is raising eyebrows ain. details on ♪ do you still think i'm crazy standing here today ♪
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we're getting new details bay call between president trump and south korean president moon jae in that took place soon after the historic summit. we're hearing from nic robertson in seoul, south korea. what are you hearing about that, nic? >> reporter: what we're hearing is that this is unprecedented that president moon had two phone calls now in two consecutive days from president trump. they're com on that. what we know president moon said to president trump is that he believes the summit has been a good foundation for peace not just on the korean peninsula, but for the whole world.
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you know, uncomfortable at work or at home or in their -- just walking around. that, i think, is good. >> joining me rig now, cnn politics reporter and editor at large, chris cilizza. chris, how is that book tour going? >> i keep thinking every time i see that clip, kate, maybe the former president should just sit a few plays out. it's clear the me movement, the changes in the culture which he seems to be trying to acknowledge are either lost on him or he doesn't get it, or he doesn't know how to verbalize it. we saw this in him talking to monica lewinsky early in this book tour and now this. again, the norms of what you can force someone to do haven't changed. you can't force someone to do anything. that was the case 25 years ago, it is the case today.
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i guess he might be referring to sort of conduct that falls into a gray area that's not forcing people on what to do, but again, he just feels like -- it feels, watching him, kate, like he just doesn't get it. it's that simple. >> it's not like this is his first time on the national stage. he's a gifted public speaker. it just -- he's not when it comes to this. you can even see him trying to struggle and figure his way out of it. i want to make sure we have it in here. a clinton spokesman said this to judi woodrow. it's clear from the context. he was not suggesting that there was ever a time that was acceptable to do something against someone's will. he's saying that norms have changed in a variety of ways in how we interact with one another, and that's all for the good. >> i just think he is a figure
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that is out of time in some way. i would say the same thing about rudy giuliani. in the year 2000, and i remember this very well, rudy giuliani for a brief period was running against hillary clinton for the open senate seat. bill clinton was coming off his second term as president of the united states. they were two politicians at the top of their game, two people who were leaders within their party. fast-forward 18 years -- it's two decades. fast-forward 18 years. they both feel like they are in a bland white movie and we're all in technicolor. i think that's a reason why, even before this book tour, you didn't see democrats clamoring, kate, to have bill clinton on the campaign trail with them despite the fact he was the unquestioned best democratic politician of his generation. >> well, and i think -- honestly, democrats, are they looking for leadership from president clinton on this issue?
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i think not. >> he's got a lot of other -- i mean, look, his past is his past. and i think that's part of the reason why he is so uncomfortable talking about all this stuff. >> great to see you, chris. my guess is it's not going to stop, though. thanks so much for joining us. "insid politics" with john king starts right now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing this busy day with us. president trump and kim jong-un make history. the president says he trusts the north korean leader to keep his word. one giant concession from the u.s. side, the president promises an end to joint military exercises with south korea. that catches seoul off guard. china calls for interim sanctions on pyongyang, raising fears that kim will get what he want without giving up his


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