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you are watching cnn on this friday afternoon. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being here. president trump's former campaign chief, paul manafort, has been sent to jail until his trial on alleged foreign lobbying crimes. this federal judge just revoked his bail after prosecutors argued that manafort is, quote, unquote, a danger to the community. they also said that he has committed new crimes, namely witness tampering and conspiracy to obstruct justice, all the while being under house arrest. manafort, he's pleaded not guilty. and when he walked into court today, he was greeted with shouts of "lock him up." >> lock him up! >> lock him up! >> lock him up! lock him up! lock him up!
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>> for his part, president trump is trying to distance himself from manafort as much as possible. >> i feel badly about a lot of it, because i think a lot of it is very unfair. i look at some of them where they go back 12 years. manafort has nothing to do with our campaign. but i feel so -- i tell you, i feel a little badly about it. they went back 12 years to get things he did 12 years ago? you know, paul manafort worked for me for a very short period of time. he worked for ronald reagan, bob dole, john mccain, his firm did, many other republicans. he worked for me, what, 49 days or something? very short period of time. i feel badly for some people, because they've gone back 12 years to find things about somebody, and i don't think it's right. >> and trump has just tweeted, wow, what a tough sentences for paul manafort, who has represented ronald reagan, bob dole, and many other top political people in campaigns. didn't know manafort was the head of the mob. what about comey and crooked
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hillary and all of the others? very unfair. evan perez is our senior justice correspondent, standing by. and the question is, does he know that manafort was tampering with witnesses? >> right, brooke. look, the judge today made it clear the hearing today was not about politics. as a matter of fact, she seemed to be addressing the president, other people not in her courtroom. she says this hearing is not about politics, it's not about the conduct of the special counsel, and she was trying to put the attention squarely back on paul manafort, because the allegations are pretty serious. according to the government, paul manafort for about five weeks was reaching out to people who were going to be witnesses in this case, people who once they figured out what he was trying to do, according to the government, reached out to the fbi to report what they were being told, and what they said was essentially being encouraged to perjure themselves before special counsel. so this is the reason why the prosecutors today said that he was a danger to the community. they said that he deserved to go
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back to jail. the defense for paul manafort said that, look, he didn't know these people were going to be witnesses. they said the judge should actually provide a list of 50 or so people who are going to be in this court case so that paul manafort could know who not to be in touch with, and they also said that he promised not to do it again. the judge wasn't buying any of this, brooke. she really said that she struggled to do this, simply because, obviously, sending someone to jail before they have been found guilty, before they have been given a fair trial, is really the unusual way to go in a white collar case, especially when there is no threats, there's no overt danger to society. but she said that what he did was a harm to the judicial system, essentially, and she said she had no appetite to tolerate it any more. he was led out by the u.s. marshals at the end of the hearing. they came back a few minutes later. they had his belt, his wallet, cell phone, his neck tie that he used, that he was wearing when he came to court, and i can tell
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you, when he walked into court past those protesters, he had a smirk on his face, clearly a little bit amused, and did not think, clearly, he was going to be ending up today in jail. >> surprise. that judge was tough, saying this is a middle school, i can't take his cell phones away so he's staying behind bars. evan perez, thank you so much for that. there are also -- we're hearing another close ally of the president, michael cohen, they go back years and years, he could be considering flipping, and telling the feds what he knows. sources are telling cnn, the one-time trump fixer is angry with how he's being treated by the president and his new attorney, rudy guiliani. so cnn's ryan nobles is on that. and you're there at the white house. i'm curious, any reaction to the news on cohen, saying he may cooperate? >> you know, brooke, part of michael cohen's calculus here as to whether or not he's going to cooperate with federal authorities is the sense that the president has his back, that he's going to look out for him
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as this case unfolds. and the president was actually asked about michael cohen this morning, and you judge whether or not it appears that the president is fully behind his former lawyer. take a listen. >> i haven't spoken to michael in a long time. >> is he still your lawyer? >> no, he's not my lawyer any more. but i always liked michael. and he's a good person. and i think he's been -- excuse me. do you mind if i talk? >> i just want to know -- >> you're asking me a question. >> i just want to know if you're worried if he's going to cooperate -- >> no, i'm not worried, because i did nothing wrong. >> got it. >> so that's not necessarily a full-blown feeling of support from the president to michael cohen. he made it clear that he is no longer his lawyer, and the president basically spending a lot more time defending himself, saying he doesn't -- really not worried if michael cohen testifies, because he believes he's done nothing wrong. so brooke, we'll have to see if this plays into michael cohen's decision making as he deliberates this next stage in his legal battle. he has been very close to the president for a very long time,
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but it seems with every passing day, the president is doing more to separate himself from michael cohen. brooke? >> ryan, thank you so much. let's have a bigger conversation on all of this. i have with me gloria borger, chief political analyst here at cnn and former federal prosecutor, jennifer rogers. so ladies, nice to see both of you. and gloria, to you first, just on all things michael cohen. what's changed? why is he -- is the word mad or irked or aggravated or disappointed with the president and rudy guiliani? >> you know, it's hard to know. i think he's under a great deal of pressure. my colleague has reported this morning that, you know, he's telling friends and family that the pressure is very difficult, and that he might be willing to cooperate with prosecutors. you know, he's got two children, college-aged children. his wife is apparently very upset with all of this. and it's costing him an awful lot of money. and as ryan was pointing out, i
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think that he was probably looking for more support from the president, from rudy guiliani, and sort of unrequited love. he's always been really loyal to donald trump. they've had an on again/off again relationship since he started working for him in 2006, but, you know, i think he sort of has been the ultimate loyalist to this president, and maybe he's feeling a little unloved at this point. >> is that what it is? not getting the love, jennifer? from a legal perspective, i mean. we know he hasn't met with prosecutors. he's looking for that sdny legal team, as we had reported earlier this week. so what's up? >> well, you know, he has a very important decision to make, if and when he's charged. i don't think he'll make that decision until he kind of sees what he's facing. so i don't think the time is there yet. but, yes, some of it definitely comes down to what you're being asked to cooperate about. so you have your own situation, your family, can you face that jail time, do you want to put your loved ones through that.
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but also what are you being asked to do. and if it's too hard for him, then, you know, that kind of weighs against it. but if trump is not being as nice as he wants, then that makes it not so tough. >> let me also ask you, cohen had been trying to get this restraining order against stormy daniels'orney michael avenatti from speaking out. we know this federal judge just ruled against cohen for now. what do you make of that? >> well, not too much. because, you know, he goes in ex parte, which means without the other side, just to the judge, and saying i want a restraining order. that's very, very rare that you would get a restraining order in that circumstance. it has to be a real emergency. and what the judge said is, basically, why are you here? this is not an emergency. go away. you can make your case later when both parties can be involved. so i don't know that it's shutting the door forever, but it's very hard to tell a lawyer, he can't speak about a case. so i think in the end, he won't get his restraining order, especially with rudy guiliani, the president's lawyer out there on the other side. >> talking. >> talking up a storm. so i think they will continue to
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be allowed to say what they like. it's not going to damage the case. >> gloria, what about -- obviously we talked through this entire show as the ig report came out, all 500 pages, everyone was madly going through it. i know today you have this new reporting on the fallout from this ig report and how the president's legal team thinks it helps them. >> it does. it does. my colleague, evan perez, and i are reporting that they now believe that this inspector general report is going to become a central part of their theory of the case. first of all, they spent some time huddled with the president yesterday. and if you listen to the president today, you can kind of hear this in what he's saying. first of all, they believe now that they can say to the special counsel, there was no obstruction. just look at what the inspector general said about james comey, that he was insubordinate. now you know he had every reason in the world to fire him, and it had nothing to do with russia.
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so therefore, they believe they can make the case that ought to be off the table. secondly, they think, and again, this is the attorneys, that because of the struck e-mails, particularly the one that said "we'll get him," they believe and peter strzok was there at the outset of the russia investigation. so they believe that it was tainted and corrupt from the very beginning, because it was run by people who had a visceral hatred for donald trump. so they're going to make the argument to the special counsel that, you know, this whole investigation is tainted. and we heard the president this morning say the same thing. he said about strzok, it doesn't get any lower than that, and what you see is a bias against me. so expect to hear these arguments from the president's lawyers, and rudy guiliani, too. >> how valid are both of those arguments? >> so the first one has a little
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validity, the second not at all. so on this notion of there was something else in the president's mind, we knew this before. because the letter that rod rosenstein and attorney general jeff sessions wrote about the firing of comey had this same theme. he's fired because he mishandled the clinton investigation. so that's kind of a rehashing of that argument. and there's a little bit of credibility there. the problem is, what you're looking for with obstruction is what was in the president's mind. the reason that he fired jim comey. did he fire comey in order to undermine the investigation? and so if he did, then it doesn't matter whether comey was incompetent or, you know, whatever the other terms were, insubordinate. it doesn't matter. if he fired him -- >> shuts down the russia investigation, that's different. >> so it helps them a little bit. it does give them a little bit more on the same thing with the memo that he got or that they created at the time. >> sure. >> but not all the way. the second thing, no way. i mean, a text message from an fbi agent, putting in words what are his own personal feelings about the presidency is not
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going to get them anywhere to say -- >> even if he worked for a hot minute on the mueller investigation. >> you know, fbi agents like the rest of us are allowed to have personal views. what's ironic to me, think back to what the gop were saying when trump was the candidate. there were so many people saying, he's the worst thing ever, he cannot be the president, we must stop this. and all of a sudden he's the president and everyone says okay. >> it wasn't emblematic of the entire populous of the people who voted, therefore -- >> people are entitled to have their views. >> i got it. jennifer, thank you. >> brooke, don't forget. >> yeah. >> that the president himself and that interview with lester holt when he was talking -- >> the russia thing. >> said that russia thing. so that's going to be a very important interview as this case progresses. >> yep. gloria borger, thank you. jennifer rogers, thank you. next, president trump claims democrats are to blame for his administration's policy of separating families, parents and their kids, at the border. we will go live to texas to fact-check that, and to show you what life is like for these children, these boys and these
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young men being held at these immigration detention centers. also, the president now says he was being sarcastic when he said he would love for americans to sit at attention for him like north koreans do for kim jong-un. we will discuss what is on the agenda when he calls north korean officials this weekend. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember. and with twice the detail of other tests... can show dad where he's from ...and strengthen the bonds you share. give dad ancestrydna for just $69- our lowest father's day price ever.
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>> hey, he's the head of a country, and i mean, he is the strong head. don't let anyone think anything different. he speaks and his people sit up at attention. i want my people to do the same. >> two things. one, the whole kim's people sit up at attention, they do that because they fear imprisonment and possibly murder. kim ordered 340 people to be executed in his first five years, about 140 of whom were government officials. and that's all according to this 2016 report from the institute for national security strategy. on the "my people" note, let's keep in mind, mr. president, americans have the right to freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. when later challenged, the president said he was joking. next, the inspector general report. this was detailed, a look at how the fbi handled or mishandled that clinton e-mail investigation. here's the president.
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>> i think that the report yesterday, maybe more importantly than anything, it totally exonerates me. there was no collusion. there was no obstruction. and if you read the report, you'll see that. >> no part of the 500-page report addresses trump's guilt or innocence in the russia investigation. next, to his former national security adviser, michael flynn. >> i feel badly for general flynn. he's lost his house. he's lost his life. and some people say he lied, and some people say he didn't lie. i mean, really, it turned out maybe he didn't lie. >> flynn pleaded guilty of lying to the fbi. and president trump said so himself in a tweet from the president. i had to fire general flynn, because he lied. to the vice president and the fbi. and lastly, on immigration, and this administration's policy separating children from parents at the border.
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here was the president this morning. >> the children -- the children can be taken care of quickly, beautifully and immediately. the democrats forced that law upon our nation. i hate it. i hate to see separation of parents and children. >> on the "that law," fact: there is no federal law on the books requiring family separation. states instead it is the administration's decision to criminally prosecute all immigrants who cross the border that will cause children to be separated from their parents. ed lavandera is in mission, texas. and ed, i know moments ago the department of homeland security confirmed that there are now 2,000 children who have been separated from their parents over this entire six-week period. you've been talking to some of them. tell me some of their stories. >> reporter: well, you know,
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yeah, this was -- actually, this is important to note here, this is the first time we've been able to get numbers as to where the numbers stand on this process. and this nearly 2,000 children separated from their family, from april 19th to may 31st. so this doesn't even take into account the numbers that have been added to that in the last two weeks. it will take some time to update that. but that's where we stand. and as -- it's havery difficulto speak directly to these people, because they have been or remain in custody, either through i.c.e. detention or throughout the immigration system, kind of a convoluted process here. so a lot of these people we haven't heard directly from. and we've heard a lot of stories from people who are dealing with them. immigration lawyers, activists, who have been able to get inside some of these detention centers and chronicle some of their stories. and, you know, they kind of speak to that heart ache of being separated.
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but what is also clear to point out here is despite the federal government's insistence they wills were cute 100% of the people crossing the border illegally, and this is a federal misdemeanor crime for a first phel offense, not everybody is falling under this category. in fact, dhs officials won't say exactly why some are prosecuted and some aren't prosecuted. but here in the -- in south texas, along the border, we have come across in shelters that help treat migrants and allow them to clean up and that sort of things, we have met more than a dozen different families over the course of the last couple days who say they were never taken into federal court. their children were never separated. so a real unclear picture as to why some are prosecuted and some are not, brooke. >> what about, you were telling me the other day on tv the story of the woman -- there was a woman sitting there breastfeeding her children, and these officials came up and tried to literally, you know, take this child from her arms,
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and obviously that's gone all around, and now the department of homeland security is pushing back on that, saying that is false. is it false? >> reporter: well, we have gone back to -- this is coming from an attorney who interviewed a woman here in south texas earlier this being wiweek who s young child was taken from her as she was breastfeeding in a detention center before being brought over to the federal courthouse in mccallen, texas, and this attorney was the one that interviewed her and then relayed that story to us. the department of homeland security really pushing back strongly on a conference call with reporters just a short while ago. they insist that this never happened. that they have tried to track down more details on that story, and insist they haven't come across any kind of evidence that that has happened. we've gone back to the attorney who shared that story with us
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and i was told a little while ago she would release another statement and get back to me on that. but when we spoke with her yesterday, they were standing by that story, and the details of that particular immigrant's story about what happened to her in the detention center. >> ed lavandera, thank you for being there in texas. keep going. appreciate it. coming up next, president trump says the north korean nuclear threat is largely solved, quote, unquote, but he will be on the phone with officials there over the weekend. let's talk about what's next after this whole singapore summit. brighthouse financial allow you to take advantage of growth opportunities... with a level of protection in down markets. so you can be less concerned about your retirement savings. talk with your advisor about shield annuities from brighthouse financial- established by metlife.
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we are back here, you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. just into us, the office of government ethics is being called to investigate scott prosecute. in a letter expected to be sent today, the watchdog specifically mentions claims this week that pruitt used aides to set up meetings with companies in an effort are to get his wife a job. just this morning, when asked about his epa chief, the president said, quote, i am not happy about certain things, but adds that he thinks pruitt has, quote, unquote, done a fantastic job running the epa. so there's that on scott pruitt. now to this, president trump also praising the north korean dictator, kim jong-un after the singapore summit this week. when reporters were asking him about the many compliments he paid kim, a man who leads a brutal and murderous regime, this is what the president had to say. >> you have spoken to passionately about the circumstances that led to otto warm beer's death. >> yes. >> in the same breath you're
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defending now kim jong-un's human rights record. how can you do that? >> you know why, because i don't want to see a nuclear weapon destroy you and your family. i don't want to see a nuclear weapon destroy you and your family. i want to have a good relationship with north korea. >> let's talk about that. jean lee is back with us and also "washington post" reporter, josh dawsey, who has scoop after scoop after scoop. jean, when you hear the president saying he wanted to -- he wanted his americans -- i think he said "my people" to stand up at attention the way that kim's people do for him, you lived in pyongyang, right? you know how north koreans live. you know about the one tv channel they're allowed to watch. i mean, the notion that the president said that. we should be clear the white house says he was being sarcastic. he was joking. but what did you make of that? >> well, there's always a little
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bit of truth behind every joke, right? but i should say that admiration for a totalitarian regime is not what you want to hear from the president of a country that wants to serve as a model for democracy. so it is very disturbing. i think that the salute that he made to the north korean general, he did react impulsively. but it was unnecessary, and inappropriate, to be honest. i can tell you that i had to make so many decisions when he was in north korea when cameras were around. i recognized that any deference i paid to the leadership would be used as propaganda, they would be portraying that as an american deferring to their leader, even though our two countries are technically still at war. so i was always careful, and i always made sure that other americans in my delegation were very careful. and we have seen past presidents also exercise that kind of restraint. when former president bill clinton went to north korea, as a private citizen, to negotiate
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the release of two americans, if you look at those pictures, he was very, very stone-faced. of course, next to him, kim jong-il, is just smiling, had a huge grin on his face. but there is a reason why we refrained from some of those gestures. we don't want to legitimize a country -- remember, they are still technically an enemy of the united states. >> at war with us. josh, you have all this reporting on behind the scenes, what was really going on in those days leading up to the big meeting. you even go into how the president clearly watched the tv coverage from the north korean perspective, and what he thought of that. tell me what you know. >> right. yeah, the president when he arrived in singapore on sunday became antsy and wanted to move the summit up by a day. his aides had to convince him you can't just move a global summit like this when folks are flying in. that there is already set television coverage and everyone has planned a certain time, the north koreans. and the president was eventually convinced partially that if he moved it up, not as many people would see it.
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he was a bit fixated on the north korean state television. he thought the anchor was particularly vivacious in her praise. >> the pink lady. >> right. he even joked that she could be on fox news. and he was impressed by how formidable the bodyguards were around kim jong-un, joking to staff members they could even take general kelly, who obviously, you know, is a respected general in the military. what was most interesting to me in some ways is how the president cast into the summit saying what remarkable progress they had made and the terrific relationship between the two figures led to that. much of the framework of the deal had been hashed out long before the summit. that's traditional in these sorts of discussions. a lot of the, you know, details are done long before the leaders get on the ground. but that's not how the president characterized it. the president said all of this was done because of our relationship, which is just not the case. and early on the united states did not make the kind of
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progress they wanted in negotiations before the summit towards the nuclearization. so basically what we found is that the president cast this as a rosie accomplishment. and by many standards, it may have been, you know, meeting with north korea and dictators potentially talking about taking nuclear weapons off the peninsula. but it was also a frantic ad hoc time behind the scenes. and they put their best foot forward when maybe the results weren't as clear-cut as maybe the president sold them as. >> 20 seconds. what did you make of what the president did this morning? >> it was pretty mesmerizing, talked about his praise for kim jong-un, now there was no collusion in the inspector general report, which was not the case. he threatened to involve the doj. he covered a whole smore gas board of topics. he's doing what he's doing on the white house lawn, doing his own press. >> there he was. josh, thank you so much. and jean, good to see you again. thank you both very much.
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coming up next, president trump claims the inspector general's report fully exonerates him in the russian probe, even though the report was actually about the clinton e-mail investigation. we're going to talk about what is really next in the mueller investigation. ♪
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smor president trump on the attack today here after the release of the inspector general's report. in this extraordinary appearance outside the white house today, the president called the ig report biased against him, even though the 500-page report has no findings about the special counsel's russia probe. it was about the hillary clinton e-mail investigation and whether or not the fbi mishandled it. so watch this. >> i did nothing wrong. there was no collusion. there was no obstruction. the ig report yesterday went a long way to show that. if you read the ig report, i've been totally exonerated. take a look at the investigation. take a look at how it started. take a look at the horrible
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statements that peter strzok, the chief investigator said, and take a look at what he did with hillary clinton. >> let's start there with michael smerconish, host here on cnn. michael, you, lawyer hat, you think this ig report will make it more difficult tos we prosec an obstruction case against the president. why? >> i do. i don't think the president has been exonerated. i've gone through the 500 pages, and i don't see exoneration anywhere in the document. but insofar as it relates to the firing of comey, what i do see in that report is an affirmation of what rod rosenstein wrote in this memo back in may of 2017, where he provided the justification for president trump to fire comey. and here's the awkward situation that it sets up. seemingly, what mueller will do when he finishes his report relative to obstruction is hand that report to who? to rod rosenstein. and he'll be handing a report to
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rosenstein. rosenstein has skin in this game. i don't know how rosenstein doesn't have a conflict in so far he himself is a critical witness to having provided the predicate to the president. now as you have correctly pointed out, this comes down to what was in the president's head at the time that he fired comey. but the combination of the ig report, the inspector general report, and the deputy ag report, and the commonality of them, i think it makes it that much more difficult to prosecute the president for obstruction of justice. >> which is exactly what the trump legal team is saying in this reporting that gloria and evan perez have. so there's that, and then john travolta. i want to get to this clip. i want to get to this clip. you interviewed john travolta. he plays convicted mob boss john gotti here in this new movie coming out. let's watch a clip from your
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interview. >> do you worry that this all glamourizes the life? >> i don't, actually, at all. because how glamorous is it to be dying of stage four cancer in prison and your son who you adore is on the other side, and you haven't -- you can't be with him or the rest of your family? how glamorous is it all these stressful court cases and -- this is a group that lived on a cliff, do you know? i mean, the fwlglamorous part i they had a sexy life, but underneath that, let's look at it, you know? honestly, i think this -- this film looks at it for the first time in a very truthful way. >> how did all of this come about? >> so we're seated in an italian restaurant in philadelphia, brooke, famous for a mob hit that took place about 20 years ago. and having watched the movie and
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having questioned john gotti jr., i'm aware of the fact that john travolta went to extraordinary lengths to portray the so-called dapper don. he went -- >> like what? >> he went to the gadi residence -- well, for example, wearing his clothes. and he describes for me the scent of john gotti that is still in all that clothing, and the gotti family so trusted him that they provided jewelry for him to wear during the shooting of the movie. and he comes across as very telegenic in the same way that gotti was. so i thought it appropriate to ask both travolta and gotti jr., are you glamorizing the life. are you worried about that criticism? by the way, gotti jr. said to me, hey, my father died, if you look at the death certificate, by choking on his own vomit while incarcerated, and handcuffed to a hospital bed. so there's nothing glamorous about that. but i think that might be a criticism that some would take away from the film when they see the way that travolta portrays
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gotti senior. >> when do people get to watch this interview? >> tomorrow morning. thank you so much for asking. i'm really eager for people to watch the interaction between gotti jr. and travolta and yours truly. >> all right. 9:00 a.m., michael smerconish, thank you so much. and again, a reminder, clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, the new back out, all kinds of michael smerconish love for you on a friday afternoon. thank you. we'll see you tomorrow morning. coming up you, attorney general jeff sessions separating parents from their children at the border. we're joined live to discuss the outcry over the detentions. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish.
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we have a number -- moments ago the department of homeland security secured 2,000 children have been separated from their families at the mexico border over the last six weeks. today attorney general jeff sessions defended the policy. >> we're not hostile to immigration. we're not against immigration. we're not trying to punish good people who want to come here in a lawful way. we simply are responding to the decent concerns of the american people to end the lawlessness. >> w. kamau bell and back with me today. and thank you for rolling through and we'll talk about how
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you went home to alabama for your show but quickly, this whole crisis on the border wha , is your take? >> jeff sessions is quoting the bible and he has what a lot of people have is selective christianity, using the bible when it suits you and not using it when it doesn't suit you. quoting the bible to talk about why we are separating families at the border is a ridiculous thing to do. a hurtful thing to do. and a disgusting thing to do. and jeff sessions we'll talk about in alabama is from alabama. i want to be clear. this is not how all alabamans think and that is what we'll have on "united shades of america". >> let's look at a clip. >> doing okay, but my dad is way more impressive. the insurance commissioner for alabama which made him the highest ranking black person in alabama. the first president of the national association of insurance commissioners. he's met with multiple
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presidents. clinton, obama -- nope. but before all of that, he was a struggling artist in the bay area. well that is where i got that from. but his life really started in a shack in alabama, 100 miles outside of mobile with a population of 312 and the shack is on land that my family still owns. right off of -- don't get too impressed -- bell road. >> bell road. yes. what was that like talking to -- ha having your dad on set with you. >> he's like finally i'm on your tv show. >> you're welcome, son. >> yeah, you're welcome. and i decided to do this episode right after the election and there was talk about division in the country and aimed at the south, before alabama elected the randall woodson and had not
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