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>> even us. i would take a $5 delivery. you don't have to be a senior citizen to appreciate that. >> thanks for joining us. i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. "new day" starts right now. see you tomorrow. it's sinful. it's an assault on human dignity. >> when you prosecute the parent, you have to take the children away. >> we need to get this thing done. 6. >> mr. president, i'll lend you my pen. you can fix it yourself. >> this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day", wednesday, june 20th, 6:00 here in new york. the pope, the pope now weighing in against the president. >> quite a statement. >> pressure from around the world now on the president of the united states. this is the starting line. there is a new term igniting all kinds of emotion. tender age shelters.
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babies, infants separated from their parents by the u.s. government now being held at three separate facilities in texas. officials tell "the associated press", they don't know how many people there are younger than 5, younger than 2, too young to the even to talk. they don't know. what we do know is the president could end this with a phone call this minute, but he won't. he met with republican lawmak s lawmakers. but the trump meeting did not move the ball. >> cnn has also learned during that meeting the president said, "crying babies does not look good politically." instead of taking questions from law make issues about this humanitarian crisis, he boasted his popularity and attacked a global critic. former campaign manager corey lewandowski is under fire for
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mocking a 10-year-old girl with down syndrome being taken from her mother. abby phillip live at the white house. what do we expect there today, abby? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. president trump continues to decline, to act on his own to end this crisis of separating immigrant families. he is trying to push other immigration priorities on the hill. he met with house republicans yesterday about two proposals they are considering. but members who were in that meeting say they don't know for sure where the president is on those bills and they don't think his presence there helped move the ball on the two proposals. >> these are laws that have been broken many years, decades. but we had a great meeting. >> reporter: president trump urging house republicans to pass immigration legislation amid an escalating crisis over family separations at the border. but stopping short of wholeheartedly endorsing either bill the chamber is considering. >> he said it was important to get a bill passed, and he
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indicated that he would support -- >> reporter: a number of republican sources telling cnn that the meeting was not helpful and didn't move the ball forward. multiple members telling cnn that president trump appeared to be behind the more moderate compromised bill pushed by house leadership that would give many dreamers an eventual pass to citizenship, fund the border wall, and stop the practice of family separations. attorney general jeff sessions a appearing to endorse the compromise bill. >> patching the problem is not the right thing. we need to get this thing done. the overall bill the house is considering would be preferable in my opinion. >> reporter: several lawmakers saying the president talked about the disturbing images of children sobbing after being taken from their families. >> politically, he said this is bad. but he did say he thought about the politics. it's about this is the right thing to do.
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>> reporter: but one republican telling cnn the president talked about family separations only in the context of political optics, telling members the crying babies doesn't look good politically. in the senate, majority leader mcconnell expressing optimism about a bill to address family separations, but it remains unclear if it could pass. >> all the members of the republican congress support a plan that keeps families together while their immigration status is determined. >> there's so many obstacles to legislation. when the president can do it with his own pen, it makes no sense. >> reporter: earlier in the day, president trump blasted a key provisional senator ted cruz's bill while doubling down on his hardline immigration rhetoric. >> when countries abuse us by sending their people up, not their best, we're not going to give any more aid to those countries. why the hell should we? >> reporter: on twitter, the president accusing democrats of allowing undocumented immigrants
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to "infest the cup" as mr. trump's surrogates down play the zero tolerance policy. >> i read about a 10-year-old girl with down syndrome who was taken from her mother and put in a cage. >> womp w on omp. >> reporter: outrage is growing on capitol hill. members of the congressional hispanic caucus confronting the president. >> they're separating the kids. they're separating the chiropractor. mr. president, don't you have kids? >> reporter: president trump heads to minnesota today. he'll be hosting a roundtable, a business roundtable amid another big political story, his tariffs are china. he will have a campaign rally later in the day. this is a big story. separation of children from their families is not going
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away. >> no, it's not. we will be talking about it all morning because there's so many developments. "the associated press" reports that babies and toddlers, the youngest, are being held at so-called tender age shelters in texas. we don't know much about it. nick valencia has visited one. he's live in hidalgo, texas with more. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. these three shelters are located in the rio grand valley with a plan to open a port in houston. it defines any child under the age of 13 to be tender age. since this zero tolerance policy has been implemented, more than 2,300 children have been separated from their families. the youngest being september to these tender age shelters. my crew and i went to a facility run by southwest keys, the nonprofit that works hand in hand with hhs. it's a facility where children, only children, younger than 10 years old, are taken.
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we were denied access inside by security. but a congressman was allowed. what he describes is just heartbreaking. he saw a room inside for toddlers. >> there are rooms with toddlers. there's no question that even children underneath the age of 1 are being separated from their families. >> reporter: now, we should point out the department of homeland security says it's not their policy to separate babies from their families. we heard from customs and border protection who said it's not their policy either saying no child under 4 years old is separated from their parents unless they have a criminal history. the problem is under the new zero tolerance policy, anyone who crosses illegal is considered a criminal. >> imagine being 4 years old and waking up in a storm like that? who do you want to the see? >> every single scenario. who is putting the kids to bed. who is reading to the kids. who is feeding the kids.
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what's happening inside these tender age shelters. they haven't been transparent about what it looks like. we're not allowed to bring cameras in there. >> i was just looking at how dark it was in the pouring rain. that's the time when you want to hug your kid. we have breaking news. the pope has weighed in in an interview with reuters. he endorses the statement saying contrary to click values and immoral. the pope's statement on the one hand. and i want to replay former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski. just listen to this one more time. >> i read today about a 10-year-old girl with down syndrome who was taken from her mother and put in a cage. >> womwomp. >> did you say that about a 10-year-old with down syndrome. how dare you! how dare you! >> when you cross the border --
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>> how absolutely dare you, sir. >> david, your reaction. >> this is a time when the president will use maximum leverage here. he has not shown anything but the politics of fear to advance this policy. people should understand it first came to light in 2014 when there were an influx on of migrants coming across the border under obama. they elected not to use this provision, they felt it was harsh. this administration decided to do it for deterrent value, which has not worked. right now it's clear the president and the white house team are using this as leverage to get a broader deal eluded them before. what strikes me now, it is not just democrats battling the administration over the
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dreamers, it's republicans. this policy has been condemned across the board exempt for those ardent supporters of the president, hardliners within his administration. you have republicans on capitol hill who are opposed to this. the issue is whether they are going to come together on some kind of bill that will actually address this, along with other things, including border funding. because the president has made it clear he is not going to do what he could do which is stop the separation policy himself after the deal. >> rachel, you have reporting on where we are with the legislation and what the count is. i want to say one thing about what corey lewandowski said. if my fifth grade son said someone in his class said womp, womp, i would say stay away from that kid because that is socal louse. >> it is unbelievable,
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breathtaking, that he said that out loud. and you can say he is not the president. >> it is who the president surrounds himself with. >> the president who talked about immigrants infesting the united states here in similar rhetoric. it is very similar the language being used there. >> well, the language is getting more strident and extreme. this is president trump's tweet. democrats are the problem. they don't care about crime. and they want illegal immigrants no matter how bad they may be to pour in and infest our country. there's the language. like ms-13. it's all just so outrageous. they can't win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters. there's something about his language getting more extreme that sounds more desperate, as though he's getting -- i don't know.
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i don't want to overanalyze it. but this language feels to me he is feeling more desperate. >> from a fact-check on that, no, no, no. last night he tried to say this is congress's fault. if they want to address the family situation issue, they have to accepted him a bill. as we heard before, the president can stop this in a heartbeat. the president said eye srapg qaa came to him and say -- well, she didn't say from a pr standpoint, but she said these images bad. so trump is saying from a pr standpoint, this is not the best thing. this is so much more than that, toddlers and children we're talking about, obviously. another interesting thing is even though house republicans and senate republicans do not like this policy, not a single republican spoke up and pressed the president to stop this policy. >> is that right?
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in the meeting, nobody spoke out and said this is madness? >> to be fair, there wasn't a qa session, but leadership didn't press him on this, and neither did any other members who are uncomfortable. >> that's an important point. it shows you what we see on this issue, something we haven't seen a lot before, before you've got conservatives. i think of rob portman in ohio. the leader of the republicans, the majority leader mitch mcconnell, speaking out in unequivocal terms. but they're not taking the next stem to say i won't vote on your judges until this gets resolved. >> speaking in unequivocal terms, until he is standing there in front of him. i understand you're not going to interrupt him obviously. but if this is so important to stand up, you have to pick your moments. it is emotional for a lot of
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people. the tender age shelters is sparking so much emotion. i think we all knew the children, toddlers and babies were being held in specific centers. >> i didn't know they didn't know where their parents were. the parents don't know where the kids are and the kids don't know exactly where the parents are. >> some of the children are too young to know anything at all. they just know their parents are not there right there beside them. tender age. just the idea the united states government is separating children from their parents and putting them in a tender age shelter, that's striking. >> i think what's important that we keep emphasizing too is what this tactic is really about. the political tactic. the actual tactic is meant, if you break it down, to send a message -- even though they are inconsistent about this. they say different things to different people. ignoring the fact that if they are desperate enough to
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undertake this at all with a smuggler or even on their own, they are desperate enough to get to the united states no matter the conscious consequences. secondly, you have from the president himself not only making assertions that are untrue about democrats wanting voters. the same president talked about all of these illegal voters without any evidence. but it is an attempt to dehumanidehuma dehumanize migrants. whether it's german spies in the '30s coming, that's why we closed our borders. or how we treated the japanese after pearl harbor. it is the idea that the policies differ. it is the idea of dehumanizing others so you think it's okay to pen them in shelters because they're not real people. >> but it's also -- you know, it's a negotiating tactic that the white house is doing, right?
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what we saw last night on the hill is it's not going to work. house republicans have basically fallen in line with the president when he asked for a broader immigration bill that fixes this policy. but also includes money for his border wall, a crackdown on legal and illegal immigration. they have said, okay, we're going to this, we're going to try to give you some wins with this policy, but they did a whip check on the floor just after he said, guys, vote for this bill, and conservatives are still uncomfortable with voting for this bill. >> why not? >> a lot of conservatives are worried about voting for the bill because it includes a pathway to citizenship for dreamers. it just shows he can't even get his party to rally around one broader bill. they need democrats. >> guys, hang on one second.
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we will take a quick break. what rachel said is news. the whip count overnight shows the republicans are not close to passing any of this legislation. that's significant. we'll have much more on that. plus, david gregory's crucial point he wanted to make right there. what is it? "new day" is talking about several lawmakers in that meeting with president trump and former cabinet officials about this policy of separating kids from their parents. what can be done? >> be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens ♪ ♪ bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens ♪ ♪ brown paper packages tied up with strings ♪ ♪ these are a few of my favorite things ♪
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attorney general jeff sessions, architect of the zero tolerance policy, is facing mount criticism for 600 members of his church, united methodist church. sessions is defending the policy that led to children being separated from their families. he said they are well cared for. in fact, they get better care than a lot of american kids do. they are provided plenty of food, education in their langua language, heating and dental care and transported to their destination city -- without their parents. he didn't say that. all at taxpayer expense. in total, hhs is spending more than one billion a year providing quality care.
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let's bring in our guests, david gregory and rachel dave. >> i want to go back to what we were talking about. the big question is about democrats. there are sticking points around what the white house will and will not accept, this concept of, you know, family migration, what they call chain migration. obviously border funding. so there's particular elements. this piece is being brought into it only because the president wants it there. because he -- this is a plan that was put in place in 2014 that a previous administration, obama administration, decided not to act on, which this administration has. so it is not a loophole in the law. the president has the ability to use this tool, family separation is, or not use the tool.
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my question is around democrats. do they feel so much pressure because of all of this that they are willing yet again, as they did on the dreamers, to make a broader deal including border funding or no. >> i think we know the answer to the broader deal. i don't think democrats are coming on board. rachel you weigh in. i think a more interesting question is will democrats sign on to any legislative fix on separating parents from children. chuck schumer has sort of said no. he wants this to be presidential edict. >> democrats feel they have the moral high ground here. so they don't feel they will be in a position where they have to accept something like trump's border wall or cuts to legal immigration. i think you could perhaps, depending on the, a family
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separation issue. but they are far apart right now in terms of how they would fix this problem. we are hearing house republicans and some of the senate republican leadership are talking about a fix that would keep kids with their parents and allow them to be detained indefinitely in these detention facilities. they would be together but still, you know, in effect, democrats say this is in effect jailing children with their kids. it is repulsing democrats. it is getting a lot of interest from the aclu. right now trump is not showing he is willing to back off right now. >> right. >> he is looking to blame congress. they may have to act to get him to stop this. >> if democrats don't vote on a short-term fix or don't attempt to work with republicans on a short-term fix, how can they have the moral high ground? >> i think it's going to be tough. you want to really just sit on
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this and play this out over the summer and run on this in the fall? there's a lot of danger in that too. look, you've got congressional leaders, democrats and republicans, who oppose this. this is a very small group of immigration hardliners who support this policy. they can't even explain themselves, by the way. if you look at what general john kelly, chief of staff, has talked about this, why he considered this as well, there were laudable goals not just deterrence but how imperiled these kids and young women were along the network of smugglers into this country, which is grotesque what happens. but they don't even spend the time trying to explain that. they don't allow cameras into these centers because they are trying to explain how detaining children of illegal immigrants is equivalent to what american kids experience? they can't even do that.
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and they won't do it because they want to rest on the idea that these are -- they are essentially vermin. they say they are infesting the united states, that they are criminals, they are dangerous gang members. that's what the president of the united states -- that's how he describes these people. so that becomes, again, the question, do you have republicans and democrats who can come together and say we have to stop this, we have to come together? >> when you hear the word infest from the president of the united states, corey lewandowski said womp womp. where is your heart? where is your heart on this issue? what is driving your motivation. david, i'm glad you brought up the attorney general. i'm only seeing it for the first time. the attorney general of the united states goes out of his way to say these babies being held in tender age centers are better off than american kids.
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he said the children are well cared for. in fact, they get better care than a lot of american keuldz do. and there's a reason he is using this language, rachel. this seems to be the dichotomy that people are trying to set up. us against them. the other non-americans versus us the, the americans. >> yeah. it's pretty divisive language there. you see the pictures, the kids laying on the floor on thin mattresses with aluminum pieces of paper for blankets. if we treated american kids like this, can you imagine the blowback we would be seeing? sessions is trying to sort of save the other side of the story is the other alternative was even worse in the op ed he wrote today. he said basically border agents were having to release migrant
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families. and they would disappear into the country and never show up. this is one of the big loopholes that republicans want to crack down on. however, a lot of republicans on the hill who support cracking down and closing that loophole did not anticipate this problem where kids were being separated from their families. they are being put into this pickle where they have to decide on cracking down on an issue they think needs to be addressed but also finding a humane situation that they can be proud of and not ashamed as they are on the hill right now. >> yeah. by the way, every single claim that the attorney general or people in that camp say has to be fact checked. some people don't show back up for their court date. we'll get the numbers. i think the majority do. and so every single thing that they are making sound as an extreme crisis, including the numbers coming to the border, are down. so the numbers historically are
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down. is it still a problem? of course. does congress need to fix it? of course. but the idea that, you know, that they are so far down from ten years ago, even five years ago. all of this -- they can use this overheated language, but we need to keep trying to fact check and tamp it down. >> number one, these parents don't care if it's presidential edict or legislation. they don't care what gets them back together. the other thing is you have to fix the problem. what happens when parents with their children do cross the border? how do they get treated? that's not answered yet. >> there are broader problems. the influx at different times of the year. bring anything young kids is a problem the government has to address in a larger way once you can staunch the immediate crisis here. >> david gregory, rachel bade,
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president trump's former personal attorney, michael he cohen, signaling to friends that he may be willing to give information about the president to investigators. cnn's m.j. lee joins us with more. how do we know this development? >> we know michael cohen is weighing his options. he is currently under a criminal investigation and facing the possibility of a potential indictment. and as he thinks through what is best for his family, we are told that he is increasingly thinking about the willingness to cooperate with investigators.
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this might potentially include offering up information that investigators might be interested in that michael cohen has. here's what a friend, who was in touch with him, told cnn. they said, "he knows a lot of things about the president and he's not averse to talking in the right situation if they want information on trump, he is willing to give it." michael cohen is angry at donald trump these days because he feels his long-time boss has not had his back in public. we have seen trump go out in public and say, look, this is someone who didn't do a lot of legal work for me. i haven't spoken to him in a long time. and another friend says michael cohen is feeling let down and isolated by donald trump. the other news to report on this front is that michael cohen is planning to hire a new lawyer, guy petrolo, former head of the criminal division of the u. s.
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attorneys' office in manhattan. this could signal another willingness tore michael cohen to cooperate with investigators. we know he has been interested in hiring a lawyer who understands the southern district of new york. alisyn and john. >> m.j. lee, thanks very much. what is this possible cooperation, michael cohen flip. we'll ask james clapper coming up. plus, what does he think about what this immigration debate is doing to the u.s. image around the world?
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it is a choice by the white house to separate children from their parents when they come across the border. the associated press is reporting that children younger than 5, younger than 2, children too young to talk are being kept in so-called tender age facilities. joining us is former director of national intelligence james c m
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clapper. thanks for joining us. you have been all around the world. you talk to people all around the world. when the united states, by the choice and decision of the government is separating parents from their children, keeping children at these so-called tender age centers, what image does that portray to the rest of the world? what do they see? >> well, john, i think first, and i'm alluding to many countries that i have spent time in oversees over the years, that i would observe there is a pretty fine line between civility and brutality. i think much thinner than people might think based on what i have observed in other countries. and so i think it is very disturbing to our friends and allies and to our adversaries. so this is not good in any measure, particularly from the standpoint of international image. the united states is known as a
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beacon of freedom and justice and a haven for the down trodden and weak. this is not consistent with -- it doesn't comport with our values and our standards. so it is very disturbing to people overseas. >> you say a fine line between civility and brutality. in your view, does it cross that line? >> well, it certainly shows the line, at least in this instance, is eroding. i'll put it that way. >> you of course have worked in national security for decades. there is a genuine concern. there are questions. there are needs at the border when it comes to security. do any of these measures -- what are the biggest risks that you see and do the measures that this white house has chosen to take address them? >> well, i don't think, again,
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focusing on the image, the children being ripped away from their parents, i don't see how that is congruent with what the real threat is, which are terrorists, druggies, et cetera. so i don't see how this particular program gets to enhance security. i get the need for border security, no question about it. but there has got to be awe better way than this. >> the white house says these parents are breaking the law. they are breaking the law when they cross the border and they need to be treated as if they're breaking the law. these parents sometimes go on to lives of crime. they say these children, if not cared for by their parents, end up in ms-13. >> i suspect that, you know, not
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very many cases of that. if this is the rationale for it, it is overkill by a long stretch. >> we just reported michael cohen, the president's former personal attorney, might be willing to flip, might be willing to talk about his relationship with the president and things the president has done. how much of a risk would that be for president trump? >> well, i don't have any insight here, john. but i think potentially given michael cohen's long history as president trump's fixer that potentially i think, you know, raises the vulnerability for the president, the legal jeopardy, i would guess. but it is interesting that he has seen the reality of the situation and appears to be lawyering up with a competent defense attorney.
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>> on the subject of inside baseball, you said within the last 24 hours or so, you find it hard to believe that the president did not have any discussion with the likes of roger stone or perhaps others on their various meetings with russians during the campaign. it is only coming to light right now. do you have any inside knowledge of that or is it just speculation? >> well, no. this actually goes back to when i was still in the government, still with dni. we saw frequently between various associates of either the trump campaign or the trump enterprises meeting with russians. now we have yet another revelation of a meeting russia. it has fallen into a familiar pattern. the media finds out about the meetings. then of course the participants
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protest innocence. nothing burgers. nothing came of them. statistically, numerically, there are so many of these meetings that it is just hard for me to believe that there wasn't awareness of at least some of them by mr. trump. so, no, i don't have any insight here. but just logic tells me that given mr. trump's detailed insight into his businesses and this sort of thing that he wouldn't at least know about some of these meetings. >> hard to believe is a phrase being used by republicans now when dealing with fbi agent peter strzok, who was marched out yesterday as part of the investigation. michael horowitz, the inspector general, says i can't imagine fbi agents suggesting even that they might use their powers investigating frankly any candidate for office. it really is problematic this agent said what he said about the president and was involved in the mueller investigation for some time. >> yeah.
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there's no question about it. this is extremely poor judgment on the part of mr. strzok. it reflects negatively on the entire fbi, which i think is very regrettable. i will say, though, at least as far assive understand the ig report, there was no political bias that had any decisions that were made. >> in the clinton e-mail investigation, they haven't ruled yet on the mueller investigation. we will find out about that going forward. thanks so much. >> thanks, john. plaque psoriasis, or psoriatic arthritis, little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and for psoriatic arthritis,
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we are learning more about the youngest mi tkps grant children being separated from their parents. associated press revealing babies and toddlers being held at tender age shelters. what goes on inside, michelle is the director of migrant rights at the women's refugee commission. she visited the processing
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center at a border patrol station last week where many are being separated from their parents. thank you so much for being here. >> sure. we have to rely on your own eyes because our cameras are not allowed in. tell us what you saw at this large processing center? >> what i saw is what you see in the pictures. that is the large cages that are set up in a giant warehouse. children are divided by age, more or less. children i saw caged full of 5-year-olds. they were alone, many crying. some of them occasionally playing and told to quiet down by guards. other than that, there was no supervision of these children, no toys, no appropriate bedding. and, in fact, the lights were on 24 hours a day. really entirely inappropriate conditions. >> how are they sleeping? this was released by customs and
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border protection. so they're just on mats with the tin foil blank it's? >> exactly. that's exactly right. exactly what you see in that picture. >> did you see children being separated from their parents? >> i did. at a border patrol station, i was actually speaking to a young girl, a 9-year-old girl and her father when they came and took the girl away. >> what happened? describe that scene? >> they came in, knocked on the door, said they needed to take the girl. i asked them where they were taking her. they told me they were taking her for process to go a shelter. i asked if they were going to explain this to the father and to the girl? really the agent just stared at me. so i suggested that he might want to give them a few moments to say good-bye and understand what was happening. again, he just stared at me and said i'm not separating them, ma'am. i'm just taking her for processing to a shelter. >> what does he call it? >> he he literally just said i'm
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taking her to a shelter. and i said well you're taking her and not her father so why don't you give them a minute. that means you're separateing them. we gave them about a minute. she stood up and walked away. and the father broke down crying. >> do they know where the kids are going to be? >> they have no idea. eventually they did understand that he was probably going to court and she would be going to this processing center. and i did happen to find her the next day when i was in that processing center. she received a shower and new clothing and had no idea where her father was. >> thank goodness you're there to be the interpreter and intermediary, because not everybody has an advocate as functioning as you were. what happens after 20 days with the kids who have to be released? where do they go? >> they are there as long as it takes for orr, who is in charge
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of their care and custody and release, to find a place to put them. that's where this issue of tender age facilities come in. the orr, their job is to take these children, put them into licensed shelters and group homes until they can find their family or a sponsor in the community where they can release these children to. our child welfare says they should not be institutionalized. they should be in the community. they are used to getting kids who come here on their own, that are older. >> unaccompanied minors. >> exactly. so these children are traumatized. they are much younger. and the facilities orr had in place so far, some of them are equipped to handle young children because once in a while they get those. but not in these numbers. so they are scrambling. >> i want to read something attorney general jeff sessions said in "usa today" today.
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these children are well cared for. in fact, they get better care than a lot of american kids do. they are provided plenty of food, education in their language, health and dental care, and transported to their destination city all at taxpayer expense. is that what you saw? were they getting tutored in their language, lots of dental care? >> in the facilities where they are separated from their parents they are absolutely not getting any of those services and no appropriate services at all. i want to be clear the office of refugee resettlement does have shelters that do meet child licensing standards. they are licensed to take care of children. so they do have some of those services. but that's not the issue here. the issue is these children are separated from their parents and are traumatized. they shouldn't be in these facilities in the first place. there are so many options. the administration is making this look like their only choice
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is to separate the kids or release them, right? what they are trying to do is get waivers of family -- of child welfare standards waived, have those not apply to these families so they can detain children in prisons not licensed for children. that's what they are trying to do. there is no change in law to stop separating these kids. the alternative is releasing them to the community. we have seen programs in place where 99% of them show tpoup for court. >> there you go. 99%. this administration shut that program down. >> that is really valuable to tell us what is going on. thank you very much for sharing. you're welcome. and the safey for "most parallel parallel parking job" goes to... [ drum roll ] ...emily lapier from ames, iowa.
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mr. president, don't you have kids? >> what i'm asking congress to do is give us a third option to promptly remove families together as a unit. >> it seems as though we have lost our sense of humanity. >> "the associated press" reporting that babies are being sent to tender age shelters. >> i can tell you with absolute certainty they are being treated humanely. >> he doesn't want to go for a

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