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this is cnn breaking news. >> hi there, i'm brooke baldwin. we are live in washington, d.c. today with this breaking news, after days of images of children on our southern border alone in cables sleeping in mats, undertime blankets, wailing for their parents the president has kavled. he is turning his finger pointing and false claims into family separations into the border with mexico. the president saying he will quote/unquote sign something soon to help keep families together. this is what he said just a little while ago. >> we are very strong at the border. we're very strong on security. we want security for our
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country. the republicans want security and insist on security for our country. and we will have that at the same time we have compassion. we want to keep families together. it's very important. i'll be signing something in a little while that will do that and the people in this room want to do that. they're working on various pieces of legislation to get it done. but i'll be doing something that's somewhat preemptive, ultimately will be matched by legislation, i'm sure. we are having problems with democrats. they don't want to vote for anything. they don't care about lack of security. they would like to have open borders where anybody in the world can flow in, including from the middle east, from anybody, from anywhere. they can flow into our country. tremendous problems with that. tremendous crime caused by that. we're just not going to do it. >> so let's just back up here. why now, mr. president? why not yesterday? why not last month? why not thousands of children ago in for weeks the president and his administration insisted
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his hands were tied inaccurately blaming democrats and saying it was up to congress to end the crisis. >> we can't do it through an executive order. >> until loop homes are closed by congress, it is not possible as a matter of law to detain and remove whole family units who arrive illegally in the united states. congress and the courts created this problem and congress alone can fix it. >> it's congress' job to change the law. we're calling on them to do exactly that. >> just to be clear, everything you just heard was a lie. we know that now the president is, in fact, going to act alone. he is going to sign this executive order without congress and while we wait for the president to sign this order on the border, the crisis worsens. new reports today of hundreds of young children, babies, toddlers being separated from their parents. the administration is calling them tender age shelters. three facilities in texas,
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housing hundreds of children babies, toddlers all younger than 13 years of age, although, tender is a word to use in the context of small children. programs not screaming for their prents. and a short time ago, barack obama weighed in with this facebook post. he writes, today is world refugee day. let me read this for you from the former president's words. if you have been fortunate enough to have been born in america. imagine for a moment if circumstance placed you somewhere else. imagine if you have been born in a country where you grew up fearing for your life and the lives of your children. a place where you finally found yourself so desperate to flee persecution, violence and suffering that you'd be willing to travel thousands of miles under cover of darkness and during dangerous conditions propelled forward by that very human impulse to create for our kids a better life. >> that is the reality for so many of those families whose
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plight we see and heart rendering cries we hear and to watch those families broken apart in real time puts us to a very simple question. are we a nation that accepts the cruelty of ripping children from their parents' arms, or are we a nation that values families and works to keep them together? do we look away or do we choose to see something of ours in our children? he goes on. our ability to imagine ourselves in the shoes of others to say there but for the grace of god go i is a part of what makes us human and to find a way to welcome the refugee and the immigrant to be big enough and wise enough to uphold our laws and values at the same time is a part of what makes us american. after all, almost all of us were strangers, whether our parents crossed the atlantic the pacific or the rio grande. we are only here because this country taught them to be an
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k leak or the way we more what worship. to be an american is to have a shared commitment to an ideal, that all of us are created equal and all of us deserve the chance to become something better. >> that is the begacy our parents and grandparents and generations before us created for us. it's something we have to protect for the generations to become. we have to do more than say this isn't who we are. we have to prove it through our policies, our laws, our actions and our votes. those are the words from president barack obama on facebook just published. so much to get into here. gloria borger is here, our chief analyst. >> that is obviously the words of a former president. i know a lot of people around the country would wholeheartedly agree, you've seen this crisis, the fighting. the back and forth. and now, waiting for him to sign it, this executive order. this change from the president.
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why? what happened? >> well, i think the president is getting hammered. he's getting pummelled by people from all over the countries. he is getting pull emed by his wife, his daughter. and i think that what he once thought would give him leverage to get legislation through congress. i mean, using this as political leverage is now backfiring on him. and when he spoke to members of congress last night, he talked about, look, i know those pictures. they don't look good. the president, let's get this clear, is not doing this out of empathy. i think these doing it because the strategy failed, to be honest. and i think that he is not reversing his so-called zero tolerance policy, according to early reads we have been getting. what he is doing is trying, we'll see when we get his executive order is say that families can be detained
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together. >> together. >> that would be the big difference. so he would like to be able to say, i haven't caved. i haven't backed down. i'm still sticking with my zero tolerance policy but, in fact, of course, he is, because he thought he would be able to use this as a way to get congress to do everything he wanted, including build a wall and it kind of blew up in his face, to be honest about it. >> so here's new information. let me throw this at you. we are getting a source familiar with this executive order says it will not end, which is precisely what you have been saying. it will be more narrowly focused allowing the families to be detained together the source noted how the families currently separated will be reunited. your points being they'll still be held, they will be held towing. >> right. >> the current laws if state. will they be held for the so-called 20 days and then be
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let free, how will that work? and of course he could be subject to a court challenge on this, because if he decides. >> immediately. well, if he decides say to detain these families longer than 20 day, then he could also be challenged on those grounds by people who say, well, you cannot do that. it's clear, if you look at the polling on this, you know, his supporters are with him on this, because immigration is their issue and this, when the person started out all of this, you know, he knew that. he understood the tougher he is, that it would have resonance with his supporters. >> sure. >> i think what he didn't bargain on is the outcry not only from -- >> globally. >> -- globally, people all over the country globally and from within the republican party, people have started speaking out about this. which you know has been pretty
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rare and i think he has been hearing it a lot. >> gloria, thank you very much. joining me also now, naen my fernandez, a houston bureau chief for the "new york times." he visited the shelter behind him. he wrote about what he saw. we talked about it. he tweeted this. this is the first photo i've seen, manny inside these tender age facilities. this is the shot of this little girl maybe around 12 months of age. she is playing on this mat. manny, tell me more about this photo and what else you have seen from within. >> reporter: sure, yes, brooke i actually have not been inside the facility minds behind me. the one behind me is a tender age shelter in texas a former wal-mart. the former wal-mart facility also in brownsville. but somebody who is inside of the chelter behind me took a picture and supplied me with
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that photo and it's a photo of the inside of what looks to be sort of an infant's room in this shelter. and that little girl is about 12 months old. she was separated from her family as a part of the family separation policy. can you see her playing on this colorful mat. you know you see the workers and other people standing around her. they're wearing those hospital-style booties on their shoes to keep the floor clean. but you know some of the people who have been in these facilities and in the shelter that i went to it's not so much the conditions that they react to. it's the situation. >> sure. >> i have seen these toddlers and these babies in this condition. >> it's what all of the tangible is masking is what you so perfectly put it to me last week. when i was reading this article that you were working on that published today the woman is quoted, who works for a young center for immigration
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children's rights, who helps pair these migrant kids with adult,s, i want to quote her. she says, they're in crisis. they're crying uncontrollably. we see young kids having panic attacks. they can't sleep. they're wetting the bed. they regress mentally or they may have been verbal but now they can no longer talk. tell me more about that. >> reporter: well, there is a real, there is sort of a real disconnect between the types of children that are now being housed in these shelters. i mean for years, these shelters have sheltered and housed immigrant children who came across the border on their own unaccompanied by any parent or guardian. they were ap pre helped. they were brought here. their mindset and their issues were different from this new population coming in. and these are children who were with their parents, were with their guardians, were with their relatives. now they're being separated by
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them from the government. now they're being placed in these facilities. so in a way there is that real, they're all vulnerable. but this is the most vulnerable of that vulnerable population. >> so, manny, lastly, when the president signs this executive order and if the plan is to detain the kids and the parents together, what then happens to these little once at these tender age facilities? >> reporter: well, what's going to happen is there is going to be a reshuffling of the shelter system, which is ament million dollar industry in south texas. so what's going to happen is that some of the shelters that housed only tender age children like the one behind me, they will be reconfigured to also house adults. they might be, there might be an adult facility that will be reconfigured to also house the children and there also might be new facilities that will come
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up. so, you know, the news today about ending family separation, it will only lead to even more of a reshuffling and a scrambling of where to house the children and the families. >> manny fernandez, we appreciate you being there and coughing all of this fork the "new york times" and coming on cnn. thank you very much. you know the question is, how long can the discourse go in the president's former campaign manager mocks the story of this disabled girl separated from her parent and now corey lewandowski is defending it. plus, cnn speaks with trump voters who don't have sympathy for these families. hear why. you are watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. zblmpbls
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. we are back with breaking news, you are watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. the president is changing course on his own policy. he is expected to take action to keep undocumented families together. but my next guest says the damage has been done. at least for two boys, they're from brazil. they have not seen their father since may 23rd. when they were detained at the border. the boys are 9 and 15 years of age seeking asylum. they are represented by an immigration attorney who joins me now from houston. thank you for being with me. i think we all feed to understand, what is happening, legally speaking, what are their rights moving forward? >> thank you for having me today, brook today the peopleles
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not for profit. they are not related to each other. we do not represent their fathers.under the florida settl agreement, they have the right to contest their separation from their father. >> essentially the florida settlement was entered into in 1987. it settled under if regular administration about mistreatment of children by former ins. >> there is a 20-day cutoff for the florida settlement agreement. >> that is actually not a real requirement in the agreement. there was i believe that's actually in the judge's order, which was entered challenging family detention under the obama administration. but what the florida settlement agreement does require it has as the number one priority family
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reunification. it requires a child placement and there is a hierarchy which starts with parents. the second is family in the occupation. third is placement in a licensed facility. fourth and only if those options are not available is immigration detention. in addition the florida settlement requires the government to work to release the children. it requires they provide them with food and adequate care, which is not being facilitated at all. >> have they been in compliance? i know you say the government is required to facilitate that contact, right? between the parents and the kids? and you are saying that's not happening? no, what the government is required to do is treat immigrant children regardless whether they're unaccompanied or companied to their parents as
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children who are human beings and to care for them. instead of taking them where they need to go. the st go has taken the situation, where they are in a sense in our case a thousand miles away from where their fathers are being detained. the fathers do not know where they are. the father is in immigration detention pursuing asylum claims. the children are in a shelter contacted with the office of reasonable settlement. it's very hard to coordinate a private prison facility's telephone calls with an or shelter. >> sure. i was talking to a border patrol a he was saying, we are treating them humanely, the blankets, the cages, everything has been around since 2014 under obama. the big difference is the separation. right? i know that, go ahead.
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>> your colleagueana bash got it wrong when she said kudos to the president for these facilities. what we are hearing is a pivot back to the obama administration, which we expect to see it on steroids without the discretion that the obama administration exercised. i think that's political ly correct for those who did not criticize president obama and are disapointed. he didn't own that on part of his administration they were challenged on family detention and they lost. they were not caring for immigrant children.
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>> it's the separation. >> but the separation is said to be halting. >>y. so what they're doing is pivoting to indefinite separation of families together which violates the florida settlement. i just want to say in 1993 justice scalia in the supreme court case said bake tale immigration authorities could easily care for minors who were detained with their parents by releasing the families together. immigration crossings are down. most people in removable protection who are paroled, even without, for example, an ankle monitor or you know, if they're paroled, they show up for their removal hearings. they are pursuing relief and get lawful status in the united states when they file for asylum. >> i'm listening to you, it's important to hear your voice. we had earlier documentation kyle copan won of my colleagues
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says border crossings are actually on the rise. right now. yes. dana bash who i love dearly, meant kudos in the sense the women and kids will no longer be separated him. the detention period is not a great thing. amy maldonado, we have to leave it there. thank you for what you are doing with these young people. let's keep up the conversation. thank you. coming up next. the president's former campaign manager mocks the plight of a girl separated from her mother. now corey lewandowski is doubling down when asked if he should apologize. ♪ heartburn and gas? ♪ now fight both fast new tums chewy bites with gas relief all in one relief of heartburn and gas
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. >> president trump's former campaign manager corey lewandowski has been widely criticized today for comments he made last night on fox news, he was reacting to this report of a ten-year-old girl with down's syndrome separated from her family at the border. >> i read todayle about a ten-year-old girl with down's syndrome taken from her mother and put in a cage. i read about -- did you say whawah with a ten-year-old? how dare you. how absolutely dare you, sir. >> asked if he would like this apologize, corey lewandowski doubled down. >> i don't know the young girl that zach referenced. i was mocking zach arc liberal democrat, national committee activist who is doing nothing but politicizing the issue. >> do you feel you owe an
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apology of any sort? >> an apology? i owe an apology to the children whose parents are putting them in a position forcing them to be separate separated. >> before we should clarify, the agency quote/unquote separated a child with down's syndrome from her mother as a result of a smuggling attempt june 3rd. this was not a result of zero tolerance. the mother is not being held. with me now a former spokesman arguing with lewandowski in that first trip zach, first to you. [ applause [ applause ] i mean what were you thinking in that moment? >> i was honestly so shocked in the moment and filmed with just
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rage. i don't know about you, but i have been losing sleep over what is happening at the border. it makes me so emotional. to hear this cam lusness from somebody affiliated with the trump orbit. he works with vice president pens's super pac. he talks to pence constantly, the fact that he would say something to dismiss the pain of a 10-year-old, this particular girl who suffers with down's syndrome is just beyond the pale. i shouldn't be that shocked because it is emblematic of this larger policy of cruelty separating children from their parents, putting them into cages. it's disgusting. immoral. it's important we calm out evil anywhere we see it. >> ken, i want you to jump in. let me broaden it out.
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is this is about that political discourse. now you have michael graham arc republican running for congress in new york. he was actually asked about those the audio that we've heard in the last 24 to 48 hours, the kids the cries, the kids being separated from their parents. this is what he said. >> you know what it sounds like to me, exactly the same time i go to a gym and they have a day cared and some of the kids cry when the parents leave them in the day care. it sounds exactly the same to me. >> day care. border crisis, where is the civility? >> well, first of all, i'm not going to defend corey lewandowski's exchange yesterday. i don't really think it's defensible. i doty there is broader -- i do think there is a broader question. are you going to enfwors the law with everything that entails or aren't you? so now the president is going to
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come out with, you know, an executive order, we will keep families together even while detaining them. that sounds to me very logistically challenging, particularly under the flores settlement you were talking about with an earlier guest, where they have 20 days to process families that have children. otherwise they have to release the children. so now you create. you have solved one small problem and/or large, it's, you know, for each family, it's a big deem, obviously, but you have created a new one. and people should know, here it is, late june, come the middle of july or possibly the end of july, you will probably see a preliminary injunction in the daca case that will ends daca as well. so the overall pressure in the immigration policy space is going to ratchet up in july.
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now, mitch mcconnell just said, we're not going to have an august recess. i practice up the house will do the same. and i have a funny feeling that immigration will be a part of the discussion for the entire sum early. because the pressure will keep mounting. >> as the pressure keeps mounting, it's so important to hear how americans feel, on the right and on the left. i want to play some sound. these are some trump supporters, who talked to martin savage, who have been very much in support of this administration's policy of separating these kids from their parents. watch this. >> these people that we have coming across the border illegally. they're breaking the rules. >> you can't come into this state and, you know what i'm saying. i don't know how to explain. >> you think the people are living off the state? doing it illegally in. >> absolutely. >> they're trying to make us
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feel teary eyed for the children. yes, i love children a great deem. but to me it's up to the parents to do things rightfully and legally. >> i mean, there, ken, they're pretty much repeating the president's exact words. i don't have trem hem in front me, the president is signing executive action, they may feel the president caved. do you think he caved? >> i don't think he caved. i think you heard me describe it. i think they've traded one challenge for another one. >> for another. >> so 20 days from the implementation of this policy, we're going to know whether they're able to actually process these families in that time frame with any sort of regularity. otherwise, they're going to be releasing children. the settlement has them only release the children, which raises interesting questions. i have a funny feeling a lot of people on the left will be
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perfectly happy to have them released even though they won't have their parents. their parents will be held. they will be released into the united states. the question i keep seeing asked, why don't they reunite them and send them across the border they came n. i think you will hear that question rise more and more and more and the system we have the obama administration owns a lot of the recent rampup of this. they have the responsibility for it, is encouraging these families to come and encouraging parents to use their children as essentially a bargaining chip to get into this country. and you can say other people on the other side of the immigration policy debate see this kind of pressure as another form of leverage in the other direction. and i think both are correct. >> that both sides are doing that. >> i just want to get zach and a final note, just responding to what ken said. do you agree? what do you think?
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>> look. the problem is, i have a lot of concerns with this executive order. we don't know what it is. it could be setting up for keeping kids in adult detention centers with their parents but indefinitely. there is a very simple way that this administration can reverse the course they began in april of this year. that is simply picking up the phone, stopping this policy. we don't knee another executive order. we don't need action by congress to stop this policy. >> you mean letting illegals into this country. that's what you mean. >> i'm talking about stopping this inhumane policy and working in good faith to create an immigration system that is not broken. no one disagrees the immigration system is broken. but what you are saying is that with w ene we need to hold these people hostage that include things like stopping legal immigration. cutting legal immigration. that itself not okay. >> okay. we're going to leave it.
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ken i think you are right. i think we will be talking about this through the month of august. ken, zach, thank you so much. ahead here on cnn, rosarys, raz razors, jars of baby food. these are items a custom jan for found in the trash during his years on the job. why he decided to tell the story of these items of mike grangrans left behind. (vo) we came here for the friends.
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. as we continue today, these incredible photographs, razors, water bottles. these photos were taken by a former janitor with customs protection. he would see thousands of
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personal items belongs to these undocumented immigrants, they were in the trash. the items had been confiscated by border agents and tossed out. tom kiefer, let's pick up the story with you now and this american dream project of yours. a pleasure to have you on. can you talk to me about how you got this idea in the first place? you were essentially sneaking out the trash at your job. why did you want to check these items? what does this mean to you? >> well, first you after, thank you, brooke, for having me here. it's a little nervous being on tv. >> you got it. >> it wasn't as much sneaking as i started working at the station part time in 2003 and about four years into my tenure there, i was really becoming disturbed by all the food, you know the canned food that the migrants carried with them crossing the desert. that was just being thrown.
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away. one day i mustered up the courage, can i please bring this food to our food bank? their compact words were bless you. there was actually a precedent for this, because the agents, themself, when i first started working there were bringing this food, diggi it out of the trash taking it to the food bank. so it wasn't like i was asking for the moon. when they gave me permission to collect food, thachls my entry point. that's when i started seeing what was thrown away. so when i would come across a bible or a rosary, it's like there was no way i was going to let those items in the trash. that's the sneaking part. i retrieved these items without their knowledge that i was doing this, but i was not going to let those items remain in the trash. >> tom, i hear talking about
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some of these photos gets you emotional. do you have one particular photo or item you checked that means the most to you? >> you know, it all means -- i mean, these are deeply personal items. these are things that people brought with them, you know, in hope of restarting their american dream or coming here for the first time. so bottles of cologne, per fuchl when i came across my first bottle of cologne. i thought this was an odd thing to chooset to carry with them in their backpack. but then when i started thinking of what that bottle meant, that represented their hopes and dreams, a job interview that they were going to prepare for. i mean, it just took on a completely whole different meaning. >> the little things i always say. tom kiefer. you are on artist. these are beautiful photos. thank you so much. it's called the american dream, tom, thank you.
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good luck to you. >> thank you. coming up next, another trump cabinet member in trouble today as allegations of insider trading emerge. how commerce secretary wilbur ross i responding.
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commerce secretary wilbur ross is rejecting unfounded allegations he participated in trading. the times reports ross shortened stock when he heard they were
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digging into his financial holdings. it was valued at $100,000 to $250,000. a former ambassador and house ethics zaer to president obama. mr. ambassador a pleasure to have you on. let me make sure i get part of the commerce secretary's statement to cnn. this is what he is saying. these allegations are completely false. i did not receive any non-public information due to my deposit position. the fact that the reporter planned to do a story on me certainly is not market moving information. so, embassy eisen, is it possible he exposed it? >> i do think there are serious questions here that need to be looked at and we can't just take mr. ross' word for it. number one you had a short sale.
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in effect you had mr. ross who moved stocks of navigator would go done. he knew that the "new york times" was planning the story. it was not known to the world. and he had information inside from his experience serving at that company about the inside issue that if exposed might cause the stocks to fall. so it needs to be independently scrutinized. it is fobl if it's a violation of the stocking a, insider trading laws. one other thing, we've seen a pattern in this trump administration. >> that's what i wanted to ask. if this is a part of a broader pattern. you say yes in. >> it is in self ways, brooke, number one, there has been an abuse, a known abuse of the ethics process, people go to the ethics officers, i know them all, they're good people. they get partial information from these trump officials. it happened, for example, with
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scott pruitt, luxury lobbyist logic? oh, i told the ethics official. he said, wait a minute, you didn't make full disclosure. we need to know, did ross make full disclosure? would be one, there is the other pattern, mr. ross, there have been serious allegation as to him and as to so many others in this organization, even the president of the united states is the subject of a criminal investigation. so those patterns matter, too. >> we continue to dig on all of the above. ambassador, good to have you on, thank you. >> thank you. more break news now the president is backing down on his stance over family separations on the border. we are tolls he will sign an executive order stopping them. we'll have for you the role of his wife, melania trump played. and is michael cohen getting ready to flip? friends say he is willing to give information on president
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others struggle, others survive. >> that is what cristiano ronaldo has done he stored a hat trick. today he's made the difference going if decisive goal in marc to end their world cup dreams. on the flip side they have concern in the next rounds. it is a very good job report say they are running out of beer already. we still have four weeks to go, brooke. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> we continue on. you are watching cnn him i'm brooke baldwin, break news is this children alone sleeping on mats, the president changed his mind, it appears.
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he is turning his finger pointing and fams claims into promises to pay at the border of mexico. he will sign something soon to help keep families together. this is what he said. >> we are very strong at the border, strong on security. we want security for our company, the republicans insist on security for your country. we will have that at the same time we have compassion. we want to keep families together. it's very important. i will be signing something that will do that him people are working on various pieces of legislation to get it done. i'll be doing something that is somewhat preemptive. ultimately will be matched by legislation, i'm sure. we are having problems with democrats. they don't want to vote for anything. they don't want to care about lack of security. they w