tv Early Start with Christine Romans and Dave Briggs CNN June 22, 2018 2:00am-2:59am PDT
movement puts a scrutiny on the companies. he joined intel in 1982. he has been ceo since 2013. "early start" continues right now. how can parents find kids taken at the border? is the zero tolerance policy on hold? so many questions and so little guidance from the trump administration. and melania's trip to the border is in focus because of jacket-gate. >> i like jacket-gate. well done. tributes pouring in for columnist charles krauthammer. the man shaped american politics for generations has died. and also the "roseanne" reboot gets a reboot. abc keeps the show alive after
roseanne was fired after her racist tweets. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm michelle kosinski. >> good to see you. i'm dave briggs. it is friday, june 22nd. >> good to have you here, my friend. jacket-gate in a moment. >> we will see. confusion and contradiction in the white house following president trump's order ending family separations at the u.s. and mexico border. authorities trying and failing to provide guidance on implementation. what will happen to the 2,300 children separated from parents now in shelters all over the country. no one seems to know right now. >> the president says zero tolerance is still in place, but e-mail traffic obtained by cnn shows the policy has effectively been curtailed for now. i.c.e. instructed field offices to stop referring parents for prosecution after they cross illegally with children.
>> and preparing up to house 20,000 unaccompanied children on military bases. the justice department also asking the judge to limit the children in detention for 20 days. this is all in an effort to keep parents who may be detained longer. it is an uphill climb for the doj. >> the story is playing out in ways the white house would rather avoid. these are covers for new editions of "time" magazine and "new yorker." the president will hold an event on white house grounds with families who lost relatives to violence committed by undocumented immigrants. we get more from cnn's boris sanchez. >> reporter: dave and michelle, the trump administration is straining to answer basic questions over how they plan to implement the executive order signed on wednesday. there are still a number of questions out there. namely how the administration plans to reunify some 2,300 children separated from parents.
it is not an easy task. they are scattered across the country in facilities. their parents are currently detained. the president sent some mixed signals on thursday. even suggests that his executive order may not be that effective. >> democrat and court ordered loopholes lead to family detention and separation. no matter how you cut it. i sign a good executive order. that is limited. no matter how you cut it. it leads to separation. >> reporter: it appears the administration is still trying to figure out this crisis on the fly without a clear directive or strategy. with so many children's lives and still in the balance. dave and michelle. >> boris, thank you. tal kopan covers immigration here at cnn. >> tal, thank you for being here. >> let's start with zero
tolerance policy. what is it? is it still in place? what does it mean for the 2,300 children separated from parents since may 5th? >> dave, those are great questions. to start the zero tolerance refers to the decision to refer everyone caught crossing the border illegally and that included a decision to include parents in that which were referred for criminal charges. they were sent to the justice department, that meant parents separated from children. that is when the children were sent into the custody of hhs and scattered all over the country as we are finding out. the reversal that we saw that is, at least for now, it could be changed at anytime. e-mail traffic i obtained yesterday, customs and border protection will not longer refer parents -- will no longer refer parents for prosecution. the entire point of the policy
was they were going to exempt families unlike previous administrations. they were going to prosecute and that is why you have the separations. you mentioned more than 2,300 children. that is one figure we have had for the month long stretch that we know of here. those children were sent to hhs and i think this is still remarkable. i want to emphasize. i think americans picture when the policy was put in place, someone was standing with a date -- with a data base tracking the children. the kids are sent to hhs and the parents are sent to homeland security and parents and case workers and lawyers have to figure out where the kids are and try to put the families back together. >> on the one hand, they are talking about longer detentions which seems to be zero tolerance. let's keep people longer and
let's keep kids with parents in detention. you have the e-mails showing that they are not going to prosecute some of them. which is it? is one just on the surface and then really not prosecuting them and they don't want to tell people that? which is it? is it zero tolerance or let's not prosecute anymore? is it case-by-case? what are you getting on the inside from this, tal? >> michelle, that is a reflection of just how little has been figured out about the whole thing. you know, one thing that struck me in the executive order is the notion that they could still prosecute parents and seem them together in custody. if that was on the table the entire time, why weren't they do it? if it was to bring criminal charges and separating families was an unfortunate side effect. if they find a way to prosecute the parents without separating
the families, it begs the question why they ever did it in the first place. to your point, it is completely unclear right now what the administration is going to do long term. they put this policy in effect apparently without thinking through some of the consequences for the children because now it is this difficult to put the families back together. they were surprised by the outcry somehow and had to reverse course. now they are back to square one. there are legal limitations on how long they can hold families they don't like and trying to challenge and still there. they are not, at this point, answeri answering any of the questions. >> this goes down with the travel ban and the steve miller hall of shame. well done, sir. let's talk about the legislative side. the conservative goodlatte bill was voted down. what does this look like and
does it have a chance? >> does it have a chance? how many times, dave, have you asked me that question about legislation? how many times has the answer been positive? right now, you know, we were so close to getting a vote on this and it was expected to fail. it is unclear if it will get more votes than the conservative bill they have been saying all along would never pass. it is still pretty conservative although it is supposedly the compromise. it has a generous path for daca recipients. last night, they were huddled up in a conference meeting for hours. half of the conference left and said we are voting tomorrow and they emerged and all of a sudden, we are voting next week and adding ee-verify and the third rail of legislation. we have no idea how they will add that to the bill while
picking up votes without losing votes. it is a mess. to be perfectly honest. maybe somehow a miracle will happen next week to bring it all together. >> don't hold your breath. >> melania trump goes down to the border which apparently was all her decision. >> the covers are pretty good. full muddle jacket. >> that takes the steam out of the trip. what do you make of the trip and the jacket? everything surrounding it, tal. what do you think this adds or takes away from the situation itself? >> michelle, it is just odd. i don't think anyone could think that melania doesn't care about children. yet, you know, she goes through the trouble of making this trip. there haven't been that many administration officials going to the border. there have been a few. she is one of the first high
profile surrogates of the trump administration to go visit with the children and see the conditions. the decision to put on the jacket and it is not cold at the border. melania trump does not wear anything by accident. to make the decision to put on that jacket as you are leaving, of course they should have expected people to ask about it. it is perplexing. they can spin it as trying to catch the media in a trap or we're talking about this instead of the trip. really, it is their decision for us to be talking about this instead of the trip. itbefuddling. >> what first ladies have worn is always a story. this is not new. >> the barbara bush wore a jacket. it is a jacket with a message on the back. are you not supposed to read it? >> a billionaire fashion model wearing a $39 jacket.
tal, more in 30 minutes. >> thank you. charles krauthammer, a legendary commentator has died at the age of 68. krauthammer had been battling cancer. he announced he had a few weeks left to live on june 8th. he won the pulitzer prize in 1987. the post executive had a statement that his loss isdeath huge loss. today, the post publishing a full page dedicated to krauthammer featuring some of the work over the decades. george will writing a column over krauthammer's ability to overcome daily challenging after paralyzed in a college accident. president george w. bush released a statement saying krauthammer's work was far reaching and influential.
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shows the policy has effectively been curtailed for now. or something. i.c.e. has instructed field offices to stop referring parents for prosecution after crossing illegally with their children. >> and the pentagon prepared to house up to 20,000 children on military bases. also asking a judge to limit the children in detention for 20 days in an effort to keep parents who may be detained longer. it is an uphill climb for the doj. >> these are covers from "time" magazine and "the new yorker." the president will hold an event on white house grounds with families who lost relatives to violence committed by undocumented immigrants. we get more from cnn's boris sanchez. >> reporter: dave and michelle, the trump administration is strange to answer basic questions how they plan to implement the executive order signed on wednesday.
there are still a number of questions out there. namely how the administration plans to reunify some 2,300 children separated from parents. it is not an easy task. they are scattered across the country in facilities. their parents are currently detained. the president sent some mixed signals on thursday. even suggesting that his executive order may not be that effective. listen to this. >> democrat and court ordered loopholes lead to family detention and separation. no matter how you cut it, i signed a very good executive order yesterday, but that is limited. no matter how you cut it. it leads to separation. >> reporter: it appears the administration is still trying to figure out this crisis on the fly without a clear directive or strategy. with so many children's lives and still in the balance. dave and michelle. >> boris, thank you. some families are managing to
reunify despite the challenges. this family was reunited with her son at baltimore washington airport this morning. the guatemalan immigrant had her son taken in may. she sued the top trump administration officials accusing them of violating her rights when he was taken away screaming and crying. lawyers announced in court thursday an agreement was reached minutes before a hearing in the case was set to start. >> so much emotion there. let's bring back tal kopan. we are so happy to have you here, tal. thanks for joining us this early in the morning. we were talking earlier about whether this is zero tolerance or is it not prosecuting people
anymore? it seems we are hearing both things depending on who you talk to and whether you are reading secret e-mails or listening to someone speak. what is your take, tal? >> michelle, i obtained e-mail traffic from customs and border protection last night that shows they have sent guidance to the field instructing them to stop referring families, parents for families, for prosecution to face criminal charges which effectively means they should not be ultimately separated. that is why families are separated. the justice department will continue to prosecute the cases. the justice department made this announcement earlier than we are counting the start of the policy. the reason for that is the prosecution by the justice department doesn't matter if they are not referring the cases. effectively, if the department of homeland security is not
sending individuals to face criminal charges, then the zero tolerance policy is now partial tolerance policy. adults with no children may still be prosecuted and there are cases where individuals may be prosecuted, but what created this crisis and let's be clear, the trump administration created this crisis. the decision to go after parents of children with these criminal charges which had not been done in prior administrations. thus separate families en masse. for now, this could change anytime, for now, this is on hold. >> do you think the not prosecuting or guidance not to prosecute is just temporary until they get clearance to hold families together longer with children? >> it is quite possible. we don't know at this point. it is not clear from the sources i spoken with or e-mails.
it is not clear how long this will last. it could be reversed any minute. they could send another guidance to the field this morning stating go back to prosecuting. it can be that much of the on/off switch. we showed e-mail traffic hours after the executive order was signed which required families stay together, an immigration and customs official which houses immigrants in longer-term detention than border patrol which is a clearing house. an i.c.e. official sent out an e e-ma e-mail, don't send anyone here. this center is closed. that was reversed within a few hours. it was reversed the next day. they said we are open. refer families here. it speaks to the fact that this very much appears to be made up on the fly without procedures in
place to handle the issue. >> just clearing up where we are today is just about impossible. let alone where we are going. let's try to attempt to solve that riddle. legislatively, the conservative goodlatte bill failed in the house. it got more votes than expected. that goes to a compromise bill. more moderate, but not entirely. it is supposed to be voted on today, but now it is next week. apologies for the long question. what is in the bill? what are the chances? what will send it democrat support? republicans are painting them as obstructionist open border democrats. >> dave, there is a lot in that question. maybe i should have taken notes. to summarize what is billed is the compromise -- keep in mind it is a compromise of republicans. it creates a pathway of
citizenship for daca recipients and people like them and for legal immigrant children who may be aging out of the visas and it is a merit-based system. you have $25 billion for the wall. you get rid of a couple family visa categories. adult siblings. you make room there. there are measures in there that seem small, but are substantial for democrats. including provisions penalizing sanctuary cities. reversing the court decisions that they say protect children. when you talk about the chances in the senate, the chances are not good with this bill. the chances of passing the house are not good. they are talking about adding more to the bill which may not get them enough votes. when the republican party or the
president calls them obstructionists, it is true. democrats voted universally against these proposals. let's be clear. the democrats were never invited to the negotiating room for this bill. they were told we're going to try to pass something republican only. to turn around and accuse them of not being open to compromise, remember, chuck schumer went to the president and said i'll give you $25 billion for your wall if you give me daca. that was rejected. a number of other proposals out there. there have not been honest negotiations happening among republican leadership and democrats. >> people like to say for trump it is all about the wall. for democrats, it is all about daca. in this compromise bill, do you think what is allowed for pathway to citizenship for the daca people -- is that enough for democrats? do you think they will see that as a victory even though there are all of these other things that will not sit well with
them? >> they are already criticizing the visa pathway. they don't like the points system. they say they have to compete against legal immigrants for a limited number of visas. you know, when you talk about what democrats can accept, one of the things i get the sense republicans miscalculated is where the democratic base is on this issue. when you talk to the daca recipients and talk to the young advocates who swarmed washington over months and mainly talked to the democrats, they are very clear. they say that it is not daca for anything. they will not accept any sort of fix for them that they say subjects their family and friends to harsher punitive measures potentially making them all at risk for deportation. the democratic party is empowered by its base to say we don't accept a fix for daca
recipients on the back of the measures. it is not a fair trade. it is extremely unlikely that they will see daca and swallow the rest. that is not where they are here. >> nobody should hold their breath for immigration reform in the midterm election. tal, no messages and no jackets. sleeveless. we appreciate the information. ahead, european tariffs on products from the united states could take effect today. what key american products could take a hit overseas. and englewood neighborhood on the chicago south side is the most dangerous in the country. a group of mothers is standing up with tough love only moms can provide. >> englewood is one of the worst neighborhoods in the city of chicago and in the entire united states of america. there have been children murdered while sleeping in beds because bullets penetrated the
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the age of 68. he was a washington post reporter and winning the pulitzer prize in 1987. krauthammer's death was a huge loss to vigorous and civil debate on public policy. krauthammer was a commentator on fox news. george w. bush released a statement saying his voice will be deeply missed and ideas and values will always be a part of our country. it is "roseanne" sans roseanne. abc will launch "the conners." the spinoff of the series. it will include the original cast, but not include roseanne barr. the move comes weeks after the decision to cancel tv's number one series in the wake of roseanne's racist tweets. in a statement, she says she
wishes the best for everyone involved. the nba draft taking center court last night. there are plenty of surprises, but not just at the top. suns took center deandro ayton from the university of arizona. and european star luka doncic taken by the hawks. and they sent him to dallas in exchange for the fifth pick for trae young. they gave the first round pick in next year's draft. another pick, the sixers took mikal bridges. this was a dream come true. he is from philly and played at villanova and his mom works for the team. that dream lasted 45 minutes. the sixers traded bridges to the suns. as i pointed out, that may be a relief. you don't want to play where all of your
thanks for joining us. i'm ron burgundy. >> well done. michelle, it's great to have you here. i'm dave briggs. what is the message within the message on the jacket of melania. is it just a jacket? have a great weekend. see you next week. >> thanks, guys. okay. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day". it is friday, june 22nd, 6:00 here in new york. we have so much to talk about. and there's so much confusion this morning particularly for the parents of these kids. >> confusion upon confusion. >> and heartbreak. can you imagine not knowing at this hour where your child is, what state, what condition that child is in. it's two days since president trump signed the order