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gladys told "the new york times" she will have "tony" tattooed inside of her wrist. the host of "parts unknown" took his life while filming in france this month. his mom said she wasn't a fan of her son's many tattoos that recorded his culinary ventures. now she's going to use his tattoo artist to get her first. a touching triple digits from mother to -- touching tribute from mother to son. more than 2,000 children separated from their families in legal limbo. >> bewildered and scared. >> she says, "we were never told they would be separated." >> no word on how children will be reunited with their families. >> there's chaos, no clear guidance in the field because there's no clear plan in washington.
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>> this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christi paul. >> attorney to you. the fates of hundreds of -- good morning you to. the fates of hundreds of immigrant children are now in question as this chaos and confusion and the conflicting messages surrounding the trump border policies. >> it's been nearly three days since president trump signed the executive order stopping the family separations, the separation that he had started. nearly 1,800 have yet to be reunited with their parents. to make things worse, one senior republican aide tells cnn even members of congress don't know where to go. they don't know what happens fwhex in and said, quote, i'm not sure what the plan is. president trump is heading to las vegas to rally the republican party. he'll likely trying to continue changes the narrative. i doubled down on the millions leading claims and rhetoric
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about immigrants and telling republicans to stop work on immigration policy. also members of congress touring immigration facilities across the south today to get a firsthand look at how these laws are affecting families. boris sanchez live at the white house. have you heard any guidance on how the families will be reunited? >> reporter: hey, good morning. no clear indication as to how that process is being carried out. last night cnn got a statement from the department of health and human services indicating that they were spearheading this reunification effort. there's still many basic questions that the administration has yet to answer. specifically, where those reunited families are going to be held, they still going to be under detention? and further, what the administration plans to do with families crossing the border now days after the executive order was signed by president trump on wednesday. the president has sowed
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confusion about. this -- confusion about this. the past several days there have been meeting between agency and white house officials to figure out how the executive order is going to be implemented. namely, how they can reconcile this e.o. with the zero-tolerance policy enacted several weeks ago which led to the family separations. the president yesterday took to the stage with families whose loved ones had been killed at the hands of undocumented immigrants. the president used the opportunity to bash the media, to barve democrash dechmocrats. listen to this -- >> these are the american citizens permanently separated from their holoved ones. the word "permanently" what to think about. they're not separated for a day or two days. they are permanently separated.
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they were killed by criminal aliens. >> reporter: yesterday via twitter the president send a message to house republicans telling them to wait on any effort to come up with a bargain on the issue of immigration. there's the tweet -- republicans should stop waefb time immigration until after we elect more senators and congress men and women in november. this fliegs in the face of things we'-- this glieplace thae face of things we've heard before that only congress can do this. the president is heading to las vegas campaigning for senator dean heller, running for relu re-electi re-election. he will also speak to the nevada republicans convention later today. >> boris sanchez, thank you. think about yourself if you're a parent or take yourself back to being a child. we've all been there, bring yourself into this moment when one mother from guatemala, what she was feeling when she was
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reunited with her son. she had to sue the trump administration after her 7 yield e-year-old was taken nearly a month ago when they crossed the border. [ speaking foreign language ] >> the mother says they were fleeing death threats and planned to seek asylum but were stopped when they crossed the border because it was not a port of entry. now her goal is to settle in the u.s. and get her son a good education. there's another bhorth is still waiting. by now you've probably heard the audio of a 6-year-old girl crying after the u.s. government separated her from her mother. >> rosa flores has found that
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girl's mother still in detention, and still desperate to take to her little girl. >> mommy? >> reporter: her cry has been giving a voice to the voiceless. 6-year-old allison being pulled from her mother, cindy madrid, by immigration. now about a month later, her mother still in detention. still separated from her daughter, makes a plea. [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: that heartbreaking recording is the closest she's been with her daughter. asking us to play it in full. [ speaking foreign language ] to talk to her daughter, madrid has been dialing a number
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officials gave her to week but has not gotten through. we tried it twice during our interview. it went to voicemail. [ speaking foreign language ] madrid says that when president trump signed the executive order wednesday, all the 40 women in her pod tried thinking they would be reunited. nothing changed. [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: take a look around the detention facility is in the middle of nowhere in texas. this is the facility that the government plans to use to reunify families. mad rid's family tells us the 6-year-old girl has talked to her aunt on the phone and asked for two things -- showering at home and eating cereal.
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outside the port isabel detention center, cnn. here to discuss further, co-founder of women for trump, amy cremer. welcome back. >> good morning. >> i wanted to go into like a policy-centered conversation. but you're a mother. i listened to that story. what did you feel? what did you think? >> i mean, it's heartbreaking. it makes me tear up listening to it, watch it. at the end of the day what it comes down to is we are a nation of immigrants, but we're also a nation of laws. the immigrants have to follow the laws, and if these parents are truly seeking asylum, they need to go that a port of entry, and they won't be separated. further more, if they're truly seeking asylum, why not go to mexico? they had to travel from guatemala all the way through mexico to the u.s. border to get here. why not seek asylum in mexico? why are you making that long trek and then crossing the
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border illegally? why not go to a port of entry? as a mother, i wouldn't do that to my child. i would go to a port of entry where i wouldn't be separated. it's pretty simple. >> there are two things. the point of entry as a mother. a a mother you wouldn't do that to your child. i've heard several people criticize the parents because they put their children into this position. >> right. i mean -- >> let me get the question out here. do you believe that a honduran mother, loves her child, cares for her child, any less than you care for yours? >> no, i don't. what i'm saying is -- >> how can you claim or criticize a mother for coming and doing what she thought was necessary to save her child's life, to save her life, giving up everything they know and have to come here? but you'd say i'd never do that to my kids. >> i'm going to go to a port of entry where i know i won't be
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separated from my children. why go all the way and then do it illegally? if you're truly seeking asylum, go to a port of entry. that's what it comes down to. follow the law, and you're not going to be separated from your children. >> the reporting from the border and members of congress who have been here said that they are being overwhelmed by people, we've been told that there are border ghurourds are not allowi them to come in. the secretary of homeland security says they're being ald to come back k -- being asked t back, as well. the administration has outlined no clear process on how to reunite children with their parents. typically the onus is on the parents. does this administration have a challenge what is the typical formula of the parents working to get their kids back and they have to take the lead on
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reunighting the -- reuniting the children? >> it's not the president's responsibility. it's the administration that enforces the laws. this is on the democrats' fault or the republicans' fault -- i'm not saying that, it's incumbent to fix this so it stopgs happening. >> but this -- stops happening. >> but this is the policy of the administration. congress did not create a law instituting zero tolerance. the president chaench the president changed the priority -- >> enforce the law, that's what the president's policy is. >> that led to separations -- >> to enforce the law. that's zero tolerance. tolerance means enforce the law. >> she says it's congress' sgjo to get them together?
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>> everyday, children enforce crimes and why is it that we ensnorese en-- endorse them on american citizens and not on criminals -- >> that was not my question. my question was whose responsibility it now is. >> it's congress' fix to figure the problem th t -- they were trying to figure it out, but the media was not covering it. >> that's a clear fact, amy. there are numbers, there's research, there were people who worked in the bush administration. there were continues working or now, any bipartisan fact checker says that what you're telling people is not true --
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>> are you wrong. jeh johnson from -- >> there was no policy of zero tolerance that required families to be separated. >> victor, you're wrong. jay johnseh johnson said they w separating female and that he could, didn't state that there were no families separated. >> the interview was here. >> that's not correct. go read the transcript. >> the room is watching this. we'll play the sound byte for the viewers. we will set this. >> oomg. and getti >> okay. >> here's what was said earlier -- >> the democrats don't want to fix this problem, they want this to be their issue going into the midterms. >> fix the problem now. the president tweeted, "republicans should stop wasting
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their time on glimz untcommenti. the president says don't fix it now, and he's using it as a way to get more republicans elected. what's your response? >> this is the thing, the mt. could grant am -- they could not be using it as people beithat's what we -- >> it's okay for the president to do it, but you chastise the democrats for doing it? >> eemg not ---y that don't want to do. the big thing at the end, the white house, the big meeting, he brought the democrats and
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themselv themselves. >> he said he would sign it, and the next day he said he wouldn't. >> no matter what he does, the democrats are not going to be happy because that's what they want, the issue to run on this in the midterms. >> and the president said himself that he want the issue, elect more republicans, and we'll get back on auto -- the viewers are seeing that. >> the president doesn't need this issue. the economy is booming, people are back to work. dgp is going through the roof. that's what we need to run on. >> literally using this as a way to get more -- >> you re-tweeted this. the president tweeted out, tweeting what you said, that the u.s. should not let people come into occu-- come in based upon pass word. 65,000 feet.
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>> kwls. >> should t -- yes. >> the president suggests that the u.s. shouldn't allow them to use a password -- >> why do you need a password to be actum tom -- you shouldn't need a password. that's the president's point. >> all right. and here's dre jancohns. >> there's no policy or practice at least on my watch to separate women from their children. >> mthere might be cases? >> there might be in terms of policy or practice. it's not something i would have permitted. >> fact, aim? >> okay. i don't have the ability to pull
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up what i read -- >> i will. thanks. next, they kpant chanted. protesters want answers after an armed teen is shiffeld by police. how did the head of the epa send two external emails in ten months? nature on -- more on a reporn pruitt ahead. and how president trump's rhetoric has affected his wife's role as first lady. a lot of dump-- lot of dona trump's language has hurt his wife because it's made 'er job a lot mother nature difficult. h (vo) we came here for the friends.
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an unarmed teen was shot and killed by police. >> we're talking about antwon rose. he was shot by an officer three times as he was running from a car that had been pulled over. it was the officer's very first day on the job. [ chants ] protests in downtown pittsburgh after the fatal police shooting of 17-year-old antwon rose. four people were arrested friday as dim straer-- as demonstrator by the crowd. there were no injuries and police are looking for the vehicle. in another incident, tense moments as a tow truck driver confronted the video, vow posted on facebook hotels the fatal encounter. 17-year-old janua -year-ol-yearn
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you've seen and heard about the chaos at the border and confusion at the white house over the implementation of the president's executive order to end child separations. according to the administration, 5 flips children have been re-- 500 children have been reunited, but thousands more are still separated. the way forward on reunification is unclear. co-author of "political playback" daniel littman, welcome back. >> thanks for having me. >> what is happening right now, this weekend, to ensure that there is less chaos. more of a single message coming out of this white house than there was last week? >> so we broke yesterday that the department of health and
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human services has created an interagent task force to try -- interagency task force to try to reunite the kids with parents. a lot of the parents have been dpoe deported to central america. it will be a big effort to send the kids to central america. that would be fraught with legal challenges because of the gang follows and extreme dis-- gang violence and extreme disorder in countries that it is illegal to send people back unless their asylum claim has been heard. >> our guest a couple of minutes that said it's congress' responsibility to reunite children with families. what's the administration do? do they feel they have a greater responsibility than they would have before the zero-tolerance policy was implemented to reunite especially parents in central america back with their children here in the u.s.? >> i think the trump administration, they view it as
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a political crisis. as long as there are thousands of kids without their parents, this is going to be a headache for them. they don't see congress doing much to solve this immigration effort. i saw a report on how trump said, why can't i just put immigration reform in an executive order, and a lawyer to to explain had he can't just rule by executive fewa at-- fee. he undermined congress with a reform bill, then said congress should stop wasting their time and a big, red wave is coming in november when they can get something done. that just contradicts the reality of many republicans think they're going to lose a ton of seats in november. >> insofar as the messaging, the president held the event yesterday with the families of
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people killed by people in the country illegally. we know there has not been a white house briefing since monday when the secretary of homeland security was there taking questions. do they have an appreciation for how bad the messaging has been here, or does this fall in the typical framework of what they call the fake news and mainstream media? >> reporter: think they understand they screwed up the messaging. if they thought they did a good job, they would be defending their policy over trump's reversal on this. and i think that trump himself has gone through a lot of reversals in his head. even before thursday when he signed the executive order enforcementing zero tolerance, even a few hours before he said my people love it. you know, he didn't want to sign it. and steven miller, he's nowhere
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to be seen, as well. here and kirstjen nielsen was heckled out of d.c. restaurants this week. i don't expect them. to be eati ining out in d.c. an time soon. >> and miller had his hand on the travel ban at the beginning of the administration. 42% of americans think the president should be impeached, just about the number that back in 74, people thought nixon should be impeached. that was the haiti of the democratic leadership. leader pelosi, leader schumer says that will not be their case to the country in november. is democratic leadership, are they out of touch with the base of their party? c they discussed that that would change? what's the view of democrats and selling impeachment in november? >> i think democrats don't want to approach the issue until they have the power to move this
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issue forward. and they're all waiting for robert mueller's report. if he finds a huge smoking gun, then they would pursue impeachment next year. they also view the issue as something that could rally republicans around trump. remember, when bill clinton was impeached, he gained support by the public. that's not a guarantee that would happen here, but democrats should focus on a message of jobs and holding trump trump and purs pursue -- holding trump responsible and pursuing this. >> good to have you. the mayor of atlanta is taking action against president trump's zero-tolerance policy, just signed her own executive order halting i.c.e. detainees from being held in the city jail. >> the mayor joins us now.
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there are 200 i.c.e. detainees in jails. you turned away nine detainees this week of the first, good to have you here on set with us. >> thank you for having me. >> explain why you have decided to reject new i.c.e. detainees. >> this really was about what role we can play in ending the crisis. i think it is a call to leaders across the country, leader leaders, look at what your role is in this immigration cries that we're facing. for us, we obtain i.c.e. detainees in a f our city jail. it's a long ds sta-- long-stand policy. we said we will no longer accept detainees. it was a personal consulate because we provide services to detainees in our facility. it's in the metro area, there's
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access to lawyers, pro bono services. we've even allocated money in our general fund to help with these services. by not accepting new detainees, we are sending them to other places in the state to which are under investigation for human rights relativiolations. it's something that we'll evaluate along with immigration experts and determine our best course. at the end of the day, i wanted to be able to look my children in the eye and say that in the city of atlanta we did what we could do. my daughter asked as she saw me reading, "what does sobbing mean"? having to explain that to her was heartbreaking. i wanted to say that whatever our role in atlanta is, we have taken a stand. hopefully this will encourage other leaders to look at their policies, as well. >> not only other leaders, but i know you called on president trump and on congress itself to
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enact, as you said, humane and comprehensive measures. have you heard from anybody yet? >> i have not. i understand that representatives of the u.s. marshal's office would like to have a meeting with me. i am open to that discussion. it's being b taki-- it's about taking a look at our cities. a quote from audrey lofrd says "your silence will not protect you." in atlanta you don't normally think of immigration. you don't think of what apearce to be a border dispute. again, we play a part. we have nearly 200 i ddetaineedo are picked up, many who come through the busiest airport seeking asylum. there's a stance that we can take at a level on e local level. >> you know, you may not know the answer to this, but as we
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learned from governor cuomo of new york, the federal government is not handing over as much as information as possible. there are any children who have been separated in atlanta? >> wean that he many, two, have been plated. i think what's amazing is to hear that a task force is being created to help with reunification. was this not thought out on the front ♪ -- thought out on the world stage. if you think about the country, they've begun with small acts. what i would say to mayors across the country, look at your policies. you may be surprised at what role your city is playing in this immigration crisis, and in georgia we are looking for space for i.c.e. detainees. it is having an impact.
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we will see how it plays out in the end. the biggest issue in our city is not a matter of if people would be picked up but where they would be detained. again, we are taking steps to make sure that we are providing services, so that they can have representation. certainly it is still a part of a conversation that we have to have at the local level. i'm sure it will influence national policy. >> quickly, i'm getting the wrap again. i'm taking a lot of time this weekend. your predecessor, mayor kasim reed says this is a welcoming virginia. georgia law fribprohibits it fr being a sanctuary city. would you if you could make the sanctuary part of this --
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>> the mayor is doing what we can to be a welcoming city. meaning we don't have officers rain toed as -- trained as federal iefrs oars to pick up i detainees. we are taking every step that we can within the law in georgia because there are limitations in georgia. and there's no defined situation of a defined city -- >> that sounds like yes. >> it is a yes if we could do it. >> appreciate you the time to be here. >> thank you for having me. the ahead head of the -- the head of the epa spending more than $8,000 on these coins.
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this morning, new scrutiny of how epa administrator scott pruitt is conducting business. the sierra club asked for records of pruitt's records they received two, two emails of him by people outside of the epa. the sierra club is concerned that he's using a personal address in violation of federal rules. the epa says no, he prefers to communicate face to face. >> a reminder of a few of the controversies. a cozy relationship with colbert and spending more than $1,500 on 12 pens, renting a condo for very little from a washington lobbyist. and there are more, let's say that. the environmental protection agency is distributing challenge coins. they're metropolitan to complete the epa's response to natural disasters in 2017.
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>> some say it's inappropriate. >> reporter: this is what commemorative coins commissioned by the epa will look like. congratulating employees on their response to the 2017 hurricanes including maria and harvey. congratulations and celebration for a response to deadly disasters. thousands are estimated to have died in puerto rico and texas, and the response according to environmental and advocacy groups, was far from sclex. >> the response was an unmitigated failure. i think people are outraged when they hear that people within the federal government are being congratulated on how wonderful a job was done. when thousands of people died. >> reporter: yet, epa staff ordered tangible tokens to includes the phrase "response excellence" and "protecting human health and the
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environment" cross midterm. that's all according to the government contract octaned by the group american bridge. an aggressive super pac. >> you going to drink this water? >> uh-huh. >> reporter: in the aftermath of hurricane maria, desperate people filled up bucks buckets to drink and bathe. the teams sent them to test the water, but the site wasn't properly locked down by the epa. we're concerned because it's not clean, pure water. >> reporter: watch dog groups look to a water advisory issued for nearly the entire island always because he understand the epa wasn't able to have clean water in place. and in texas after hurricane harborview, the epa claimed a damage wanted find was seeking
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waste. the epa tells cnn this is not news and says the federal government challenge coins are awarded to various individuals. the so-called challenge coins are historically used by the military, but they've become popular including for this year's singapore summit between president trump and north korean dictator kim jong-un. in this case, the trump administration's overall response to the storms, particularly hurricane maria, has been widely criticized as a failure. >> some people have been insulted about this, to imagine we're giving out coins in order to create how wonderful the response was. >> reporter: the epa spent about $8,500 on these coins. not a don of money. considering that puerto rico has a lot of places put safe drurt and consider -- drinking water and considering that we're in another hurricane season, unclear if they're prepared for
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last time. folks saying this is money that could have been invested in the epa elsewhere. and ahead, a former first lady offers a behind-the-scenes look at her time in the oval office where she said there was no luxury to make mistakes. oh, you brought butch.
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michelle obama is teasing her new memoicoming out in the fall talking about what it is like to be first lady and the first african-american lady in the white house. >> how it changed her life. >> we knew we didn't have the luxury to make mistakes. when you are the first -- i mean, i have lived my life as the first, the only one at the table and barack and i knew very early we would be measured by a different yardstick, making mistakes was not an option for us. not that we didn't make
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mistakes, but we had to be good, no, we had to be outstanding at everything we did. >> when it was time for melania trump to take on the white house, she was on her own. as the author points out, her husband's campaign didn't help. >> there's nothing in the constitution that outlines what they are supposed to do. everything relies on their relationships with the first ladies who came before them. michelle obama's staff and melania's staff didn't have that rappaport. a lot of his language hurt her and made her job more difficult. >> thank you so much for being here. how does the first lady reconcile her mission with the president's words? >> well, i think it's difficult, ses specially in a situation like this where the first lady's
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own spokeoman sometimes contra ducts what the president says. we have different messages out of the white house. melania wears a jacket with a message of apathy to visit the migrant children. her spokesperson says it's a jacket, no hidden message. afterwards, her husband undermines that and says that is directed at the fake news media. that's what she doesn't care about. that's what she's trying to say. is it a thing or not a thing? was she trying to send a message or not? it's difficult for her, as a woman who doesn't say much, who is private, mysterious, to try to compete in a situation where her husband is extremely outspoken and extremely upredictable and has this platform on twitter.
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she is having trouble making her voice heard. >> it's hard to understand who she is. she tried to clear that up in an interview. listen. >> i'm very strong. people didn't really know me. people think and talk about me like, oh, melania, oh, poor melania. don't feel sorry for me. don't feel sorry for me. i can handle everything. i will fight till the end because i don't want to damage my reputation and my name. >> she doesn't want to damage her reputation, yet she's on this mission to be best to help children and it's, i'm sure a lot of people are looking at this, her reputation, in a sense, is damaged by her husband, is it not? >> absolutely. we have a situation where it was her husband's policy that caused this family separation situation at the border.
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it's a humanitarian crisis. babies being held in prisons. there's global outcry over this and she is claiming to have influence over her husband. >> does she have influence over her husband? how much? >> her husband says she appealed to his humanity and kcaused him to reverse the policy. it's impossible to know how much she has or ivanka. it really undermines her cause to be seen in a jacket like this, which, you know, how often is milan that wearing a $39 jacket with graffiti letters on the back? is the white house making a target out of her to change the story or was this an accident? it's hard to tell. >> we appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. i am all about living joyfully.
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life. i was working around plants and things and it's like a ray of sunshine. it was therapy and i didn't know it was therapy. >> we are going to be planting in this area. >> horticultural therapy uses plants and gardens as part of the healing process. they work with a wide range of individuals with a wide range of challenges. when someone plants a seed, they are the caretaker. that's an important role for people who are on the receiving end of medical care, to put them in charge of another living thing. plants reward the individual with change, a new leaf, a new fruit, a new flower. people and plants share an ancient bond. working with plants restore natural rhythms, feeling like you are part of nature and help individuals deal with stress or inner conflict. >> he's a great example. take what comes. if it rains, that's okay.
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sunlight happens, that's okay. if it's windy, that's okay. life has a flow, go with it. >> this is video you will not forget. surveillance cameras at a mississippi gas station capture the moment this speeding white car -- watch this. >> oh, my goodness. >> -- crashes into that post and goes airborne. it hits a sign, goes airborne, nearly flips, goes in between the gas pumps. the driver walked away without injuries. >> the woman was going 100 miles per hour. she's been charged with driving under the influence. more than 2,000 children separated from their families and in legal limbo. >> we saw a lot of kids in cages. they are scared. >> they

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