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canada's weed market is expected to grow to $4.5 billion and generate $3 billion in taxes. legalization goes into effect october 17. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. hello, everyone. thanks so much for joining me this sunday. i'm fredricka whitfield. we start with a kchaos unfoldint an outrage building in mexico. right now as more than 2,000 children in u.s. custody still wait to be reunited with their parents, protesters are gathering on the border in southern texas. they are demanding families split up to be more immediately brought back together. >> the people throughout the country, people of every different background, as you can
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see here, have come together to say that this is not who we should be in the united states of america or anywhere. >> history will judge and condemn those who are responsible for this atrocity and those who helped them! >> after a week of confusion and heartbreaking images, now the trump administration has released a general plan for bringing separated families together. but major pieces are still missing, including a clear timeline on just how long it would take and how it would get done. all of this as president trump dug in at a rally in nevada yesterday. he declared immigration is a key issue heading into the midterm elections and said that could be bad news for democrats. >> being weak on the border, which is therefore allowing tremendous crime to come into our country, they think that that's a good issue for them.
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i don't think being weak on the border, being pa ththetically w on the border is a good issue. i got elected largely because we're strong on the border. i believe it. >> diane gallagher is in texas where that protest is happening, but first let's start with our cnn correspondent, boris sanchez at the border. boris, on the one hand the president pushes policy, but then is intensifying his rhetoric. >> that's right, fred. perhaps not surprising, the president believes that strong rhetoric on immigration is part of what got him elected. he dug in his heels yesterday, essentially arguing that there are two ways to handle immigration. if you are too weak, you get taken advantage of it, and if you're strong on immigration, you get criticized for not having a heart. the president made clear where he stood on that spectrum this morning on twitter.
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here's part of his tweets. he writes, quote, we cannot allow all of these people to invade our country. when somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no judges or court cases, bring them back from where they came. our system is a mockery to good immigration policy and law and order. most children come without parents. our democracy laughed at all over the world is unfair. then the president goes on to argue that immigration should be merit-based, something he's made a case for before. i want to point out two things, fred, the clarification from mr. trump. just a few days ago, he used the word "infest" to describe immigration, now he's calling them invaders. not people escaping oppression and abuse problems. there is a question on how the president wants us to handle immigration. there were a few questions on
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where the president stood on two bills that were being worked on for weeks by house republicans. one of them got voted down, and then friday trump said families should just wait until after the midterms to work on issues. several mixed messages from the president. we'll likely hear more strong rhetoric as we get close to the midterms. we'll see what these acts bear out. >> right now i want to take you to south texas there, so exactly what is trump policy doing? how is it going to be cared out? diane gallagher is with us in tornillo. there is also a large block of people. diane, what did you see? >> a lot of people that came
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from canada, people from florida who came to show. people are right at the edge with the intake center. they said the biggest thing for them was the confusion. they don't know how the reunification is going to happen. they want to address that first. they want the president to -- sort of. -- some of them comparing the situation here in the united states to, so there was a sense of, again, solidarity with the children here, but also a serious. more than anything, they talked about voting. a lot of them spoke directly to to the president and shared stories that perhaps could convince them to go back on these policies. >> this president and his
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administration, they use cruelty as a hobby, incompetence is their standard operating procedure, division is their tool, and we cannot leave it to chance. >> we will hold this administration and theirs who are silent. we will not forget one child. >> that was the refrain we heard over and over again. we will remember in november. back here could be the largest of what hhs calls temporary shelters. a month ago when congress tore open the facility, there were about 100. they did bring a group, we're told, about seven girls to this
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behind me. . for those who were separated by their parents at the zero immigration policy, but -- from that guided tour, and i've been on want you to see, but they said overall it looks being and that means they don't have to reunite the children, and that's what people at this protest today demanded happening. wh >> what is the president's plan to reunite children? all the children will continue to remain in custody. reunification won't happen until their parents' deportation proceedings are completed. then they will unite with them during deportation, or if they
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are turned down for deportation, they have to reapply with their sponsor, and that could take weeks. they're working on building out a better database. still unclear: who will take responsibility for grouping channels together. one said they want to have a hand in these children. >> we know where every single child is. it's gone out in some other media with the assumption that the administration has lost track of that. these are officials that work with hhs and dps and custom border control and i.c.e. these are not appointees, these are real folks. many of the children, we do not know if they're with a parent or not, so making sure we're
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connecting the dots on this. >> let's get reaction to this new dhs plan to reunite separated families. with me is ken liu in california. he's head of the house and judiciary foreign affairs communities. frank, thank you for being with us. >> so this new plan will keep children waiting in custody. reunification proceedings will only happen if the child's parents' deportation proceedings is complete. >> there are nearly 2,000 babies and kids who are trumped away from their meeting. this kind of activity it affect brain judgment, could affect them the rest of their lives. we need to put the parent in here as quickly as possible.
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there is a real shortage of attorneys being able to represent those people, and that process is very lengthy. how long would you anticipate for this process to be completed? >> there is a lot of chaos that started because of this awful family separation policy. by the way, i agree with republican congressmember mike coffman that stephen miller should resign. in terms of process, we're asking very basic questions that the department of homeland security still cannot answer. three weeks ago i asked secretary nielsen with others from congress, how do you be sure that they are not being released to child molesters? they still can't answer that question. none of these questions have been answered.
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>> what does it mean to you when they say there ay ar they don't? >> they don't have a plan in place, they don't have linkages where expected, and they can't answer certain questions. it means these children and babies may never be reunited with their parents because they don't have any idea where they are. >> on friday when you chose to play audio from the pro republica recording of the cries of young children and one little girl, you know, saying she is pleading for a phone call to her aunt. then you were met with some resistance by the republican in charge of the session. let's watch some of that moment.
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>> what must that sound like? >> the gentleman will succespen. >> for what reason, madam speaker? >> the gentleman will contend. >> under what rule? >> rule 17 of the house. the gentleman will suspend -- >> why do you try to keep the american people from listening to what sounds like a detention facility? these are children in a detention facility. why do you not let american men and women hear what they're saying? >> you said it prohibits the use of a device. did you challenge that? is that the case, you were in violation by playing that audio, and secondly, what was your objective? >> i thought it was important to
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put in the congressional record the horror of those kids and what they're experiencing, and i wanted people to hear these children after they were ripped away from their parents. there is nothing that says i can't play the sounds of children separated from their families. and why are we even talking about decorum when what we're seeing is essentially kidnapping. there is much more at stake than decorum. >> is that what you were talking about when you said there is a great concern that without some real good bookkeeping prior to this new promise of a database, that there are some children who will never be reconnected with their families, but somehow they're in the united states, they'll be disbursed. some are even in foster families and it's your accusation and so
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many others who are calling this kidnapping? >> absolutely. i remember when our two kids were born. both times the hospital went to great lengths to make sure they knew who the parents were, who the infants were. there is no evidence here that the trump administration went to those lengths, that they actually connected who the babies are to who the parents are. they would be telling us, as well as the news media, the procedures they put in place, migrated tiers. which means these kids and these babies will really be lost from these parents because they don't know how to connect them. >> and babies and those who are nonverbal may be unable to express what their parents might
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be? >> that's correct. and a number of these parents might have already been deported, so how do you reunite those parents with their babies or infants, especially if the little kids can't explain who their parents are. >> congressman ted liu, thank you very much. >> thank you. ahead, trump says his administration is doing a very good job. i'm quoting now, very good job, handling the situation at the border. he said staying strong will be a winning political issue for republicans. >> i don't think being weak on the border, being pathetically weak on the border, is the issue. i think i got elected largely because we are strong on the border. ity award for its midsize car-the chevy malibu. i forgot. chevy also won a j.d. power dependability award for its light-duty truck the chevy silverado. oh, and since the chevy equinox and traverse also won chevy is the only brand to earn the j.d. power dependability award across cars, trucks and suvs-three years in a row.
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against family separations at the border as a weapon against democratic foes. here's the president this weekend providing his supporters with a clear and simple choice. >> they want to use the issue, and i like the issue for election, too. our issue is strong borders, no crime. their issue is open borders, let ms-13 all over our country. that's bhaewhat's going to happf you listen to them. >> let's bring in cnn political commentator and former special assistant to george w. bush, scott jennings, and commentator and formadviser to ted cruz. welcome. >> it's certainly the president's signature issue. he's not wrong. he did run a campaign on this
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issue of t issue. the federal government should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. we should be able to stop people at the port of entry. we should be able to keep ms-13 from coming here. if you can trust the president to enforce borders and sort of walk and chew gum at the same time as to who we're letting am and who we aren't, i think the republican rhetoric needs to reflect some optimism, that we do have a plan to govern and that it connects it to the economy. the one thing about the trump position on immigration here is it connects jobs with the economy. people are going to want to come here for jobs in america. >> is that the coordination, jobs and working in america, that needs to come together? >> overall it helps our economy. that's one of the big factors
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that we're hearing pushback from various members of congress, because we need a legal immigration system because in their state it significantly impacts their economy, specifically states they rely on agriculture. they need some of that labor that comes here. that is a bigger factor. obamacare as well as immigration are important. when we have a senate as well as a white house, there is no reason we can't get this done. we have a lot of great proposals on the table. to me the best option is ending visa lottery, ending chain migration, having a more meas e merit-based system. there is overwhelming support for protections for dreamers. we need to include that. and in return, let's put some money behind the wall that mostly the president wants and find some way to compromise on all of these, and let's fix this
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immigration system. we're the envy of the world, merck has. >> so hethese images, what the family knows or doesn't know, has certainly brought reaction. it also brings a shift. >> when john baynor said the other day this is the president's party, he was speaking the truth. the mark sanford loss clarified something if it wasn't clarified before. you can't as a republican these days stand in opposition to some of the president's policies or not condone his bhavr. that's the reality and we're seeing it play out. >> so, scott, is that the issue? the republican party is the party of trump.
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all a aboaboard. >> 70% of republicans out there, like alison and me, we support the president's agenda, we support the direction he's moving the country. we think the country is in much better shape than it was during obama years. i would take issue with sanford's loss. i don't think it had anything to do with his behavior. i think it had everything to do with the voting record. they had voted less with donald trump's agenda than mike sanford. but when push comes to shove, they expect their republican congressmen to be on board. sanford had a terrible voting record, and i wasn't. being a critic of the president
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really cost him that primary. and then today obama wrote in an op-ed talking about, this is a defining moment for republicans. i'm going to quote a portion. he says, i have and will continue to speak out when the president does or says something which is divisive, racist, destructive on american institutions. i do not make this a daily commenta commentary, i express commentary views only when i believe it is a matter of substantial difficulty. when he was running, he certainly wasn't a proponent of candidate trump, and now to find his way again to capitol hill, it could cost him a potential victory. al alex? >> it could. that remains to be seen.
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i think ronnie. but they don't necessarily, as it is. i think it is very important the folks that are. many have learned the hard way that the republican party is a party of limited government, strong on national security, and those in washington and those around the country, that's been their policy before the president came here, as the president was here and long after. and i think rumors of the demise of the republican party are greatly exaggerated. they continue to fight for the policies that got them where
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they are now and we'll. is this a step with the mitt romney that you know? that, you know, he is dancing to his own beat, so to speak. >> well, look, i think mitt romney and donald trump are two different kinds of guys. they've lived two different kind of lifestyles and rhetoric and the way you conduct yourself. that's fine, because i think 50% of the time, mitt romney will conflict with all the different things in the republican party. there is a real difference between rhetoric, style, communication tactics and core policy values. donald trump is doing -- and i suspect will continue to do -- a lot of core republican stuff, even if it doesn't sound like what mitt romney might sound like when he's making public speeches.
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welcome back. tomorrow is a potentially significant day for president trump's long-time personal lawyer michael cohen. most of the documents seized in that fbi raid of his home and office back in april are expected to be handed over to prosecutors as soon as tomorrow. and the raids were part of an investigation into his business dealings which originally stemmed out of robert mueller's russia probe. cnn has learned cohen has signalled to friends that he may be ready to cooperate with investigators. i want to bring in michael zelden. he's former special assistant to robert mueller at the department of justice and a cnn legal analyst. good to see you. all right, so reuters is
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reporting that only 161 of the nearly 300,000 documents reviewed have been determined to be protected by attorney-client privilege. what does that mean to you? is that a particularly low number? >> well, it is a low number except to the extent that michael cohen, as we understand his relationship with president trump and other clients, functioned as a businessman than he did as a lawyer. so the communications he had with his clients and with the president seemed to be more business dealings than legal advice. and so that reflects the nature of those relationships, and so the low number of attorney-client privilege-protected documents isn't surprising. >> so there might be another deadline or an extension to hand over all the documentsment. >> it seems as though the judge has given them to the 27th of june to make final decisions on
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whether anything is protected or not protected. clients, now cohen and others, will get a chance to make their final designation. then once that's all done, judge woods would continue to give material over to the taint team, the lawyers who can begin to look through this material and make determinations about whether or not michael cohen has violated any laws. >> michael zelden, always good to see you. thank you so much. >> thank you. this just in to cnn, elizabeth warren arriving at a detention facility in texas. polo sandoval is also there. so polo, what can you tell us about access, what is there, et cetera? >> reporter: i'm not sure exactly what you see right now, but the lawmakers, these mainly democrats who have come to this particular location to see firsthand what the conditions are are like inside and even trying to speak to some of these
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people and children that are being kept in here, we understand senator ward has been spending about 45 minutes now. part of her visit to the rio grande value it comes to the scene of a senator trying to block a bus. the senator is inside right now. we expect to her had make her way out of that facility to try to talk to her and see what her reaction is to the situation inside. >> so, polo, when she does come out, will there be access where you can try to see if she's willing to share her point of view? >> that's certainly something we will be efforting here. we have tried to get cameras inside ourselves for the last se several weeks. the government saying because of
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it's a dangerous journey with no clear resolution, yet thousands of people risk everything they have across unforgiving terrain hoping for a chance to live in the united states. why are so many making that dangerous gamble? senior latin america affairs editor romo traveled from latin america to find out.
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>> we found a bridge between mexico and guatemala, and it was clear the border was wide open for migrants and anything you want to smuggle. little has changed. this is how central american migrants cross the boarrder. as you can see, we are in a makeshift boat. this serves as a borderline between guatemala and mexico. something that caught my attention was you can't really see any migration authorities or police. they told us their priority was not detaining migrants but finding drug traffickers. there are more than 400 border crossing points where authorities have little or no control. >> we are on our way to the province of tecun uman, an area known by people in the region, and a migrant point for people not only from guatemala but
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ecuador. >> why are entire families fleeing central america? we traveled to a scity in honduras that has one of the highest murder rates in the world. >> authorities say many people have chosen to leave because they were fleeing violence. operations like this one by the military police are seeking to restore confidence in authorities so that people can return to their neighborhood. s >> reporter: but those who leave have no intention of returning. at the end of the day, they told us they only have two options, beco giving in to gang members ms-13 who will kill your family if you don't give in, or crossing the border illegally. the prospect of a life in america, albeit remote and even if they're temporarily separated
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from their children, will always be preferable to imminent death at home. >> so as treacherous as that route is, you're sharing that those are still paths that people are taking, great risk because they still believe that the risk of staying is far more dangerous than the risk of taking the route, the risk of being detained, even, in the u.s.? >> at the end of the day, it's a matter of life and death. i spoke with people in honduras, a mother, for example, who told me, i had to let my 17-year-old son go because the gang on the other side of the street was threatening him with death if he didn't join the gang. so you hear from parents having to make those difficult choices. i'm a father myself, and i can't imagine having to face that choice. so people are desperate, they're afraid, they're hungry, and they want to -- if it works, they have the prospect of an incredibly much better life in the united states, but you have
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to remember the trip from central america to the united states is very risky. a lot of people die on their way here. >> my god, it is treacherous. thank you so much for bringing us that point of view and that journey. rafael romo, appreciate it. coming up, the trump administration issuing a new plan to reunite families separated at the border. but there are still serious questions about how they'll carry that out. plus, north korea leader kim jong-un reportedly taking down anti-american propaganda? we'll tell you what's going up in its place, next. a hotel can make or break a trip. and at expedia, we don't think you should be rushed into booking one. that's why we created expedia's add-on advantage. now after booking your flight, you unlock discounts on select hotels right until the day you leave. ♪ add-on advantage. discounted hotel rates when you add on to your trip.
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the u.s. is getting ready to receive remains of troops from north korea. about 100 wooden transport cases are being sent to the dmz in preparation for the exchange. most of the remains are believed to be u.s. servicemembers who died in the korean war. cnn's global affairs correspondent elise laffit joining me now. is this an agreement president trump made with kim jong-un at the summit? >> that's right, since the summit, north korea has agreed to preserve these remains. we're not sure how many sets of remains are u.s. servicemen. they could be from other countries. i'm not sure north korea knows. they are believed, a lot of them, to be u.s. servicemen. they'll be handed over to the
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united nations from north korea so south korea and over to the u.s. this is one of the first tangible signs, productive signs, from that summit between president trump and kim jong-un. there were also some reports that after years of anti-u.s. propaganda in north korea, some tour guides are reporting in the media that north korea is taking away some of these signs of anti-u.s. propaganda. for instance, gift shops that used to have anti-u.s. slogans now have been replaced with the summit between north korean leader kim jong-un and also south korean president moon talking more about north-south unification. and also some of those posters around the country have been taken off. we haven't seen those remains yet. we haven't seen really tangible signs of productive signs since the summit, but we are waiting
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to see. and also i think the u.s. has to get this process together between the u.s. and north korea. what is the north korean actually willing to do for denuclearization? we really haven't had any signs of that yet, fred. >> all right, elise laffit in washington. thank you very much. is the u supreme court pois to weigh in on the travel ban this week? we'll hear from them after this. my car smells good.
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i was having is severe issues of alcoholism, depression and they were taking a toll on my life. as i work around plans and things, the cloud lifts. it was like a ray of sunshine. it was therapy and i didn't know it was therapy. >> we're going to plant in this area. >> horticulture uses plants and garden as part of the therapeutic and rehabilitative proce process. they work with issues and a wide degree of challenges. that's a load for people on the receiving end. it offers people with a challenge change, a new root, a new flower. people with plants share a bond. they can restore natural
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rhythms. helping to feel like you're a part of nature can help individuals deal with stress or inner conflict. >> gardening is a good example. it takes what comes. if it rains, that's okay. if the sun is out, that's okay. if it's windy, that's okay. life has a flow. go with it. hello again, everyone, and thank you so much for joining me this sunday. i'm fredricka whitfield. we start with the chaos unfolding and the outrage building at the u.s.-mexico border. >> free the children now! free the children now! free the children now! >> right now more than 2,000 children in u.s. custody still wait to be reunited with their parents. protests taking place in southern texas earlier today, demanding families split up be more immediately brought back together. >> history will judge and condemn those who are responsible for this atrocity
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and those who helped them! and after a week of confusion and heartbreaking images, the trump administration releasing a general plan for bringing separated families togetherme together. but major pieces are still missing. a clear timeline on just how long it would take and how it would get done. all of this as president trump dug in in a rally am nevada. he declared immigration as a key issue heading into elections, and he said that could be bad news for democrats. >> being weakonthe order, which is, therefore, allowing tremendous crime to come into our country, they think that that's a good issue for them. i don't think being weak on the border, being pathetically weak on the border, is the issue. i got elected because we were strong on the border.

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