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and those who helped them! and after a week of confusion and heartbreaking images, the trump administration releasing a general plan for bringing separated families togetherme together. but major pieces are still missing. a clear timeline on just how long it would take and how it would get done. all of this as president trump dug in in a rally am nevada. he declared immigration as a key issue heading into elections, and he said that could be bad news for democrats. >> being weakonthe order, which is, therefore, allowing tremendous crime to come into our country, they think that that's a good issue for them. i don't think being weak on the border, being pathetically weak on the border, is the issue. i got elected because we were strong on the border. >> polo sandoval is standing at
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the border and bo rir orkboris at the white house. boris, you first. no, i'm sorry about that, protesters rallied earlier. what's it like there? >> reporter: to be honest, fred, we're talking triple-digit temperatures. it is dusty, it is windy, and we had a lot of people who decided to come and brave that here in tor nirks tornillo, texas. just over here is this temporary shelter that they came to show solidarity with and to protest the fact that it's even there. you can see some of these images here. they had celebrities, they had activists and people who just said they felt a need to come. i talked to a pastor who flew here from orlando. he said he wanted to show that not auley van jeluley van jel--
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supported what the president was doing. they said they wanted to see the trump stance after those reunifications to change how they are seeking asylum. they said they felt like he was trying to get rid of due process. we want to hear some of the stories we heard told on the stage this morning. >> and i came here when i was six years old. i came here with my parents who were seeking better economic opportunities and a better place to raise their children. and in a land that i did not know, they were the ground i stood on. they were what kept me together. so i really cannot imagine what it would be like to come somewhere that you don't know and not have your parents with you. so as an immigrant, my heart aches for these children. >> reporter: and i will tell you more than anything, i heard
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rhethe refrain "we will remember come november." making sure they take political action is really retribution for what happened here, it sounded like. talking about this camp tornilla, it could become the largest held. it could expand to 4,000 beds. roughly we are told there are 300 children in there, and a large amount are kids who came over the border unaccompanied. those who came here today is for those kids to be reunified as quickly as possible. >> diane gallagher, thank you so much. we'll check back in with you. meanwhile, the department of homeland security has released a plan to reunite families, but it still leaves so many questions unanswered. let's go to our cnn white house correspondent boris sanchez at
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the white house. sorry about that. tell us more about this released plan. >> reporter: hey, fred, yes, this was a plan put out by dhs in connection with the hhs late last night. there is still a lot of questions on the timeline for reunification of these families. it appears they will need some patience when it comes to being brought together again. this is the way it shakes out. essentially these two agencies are saying these children who have been separated from their parents, some 2,000 of them still in government custody, will remain in the custody of health and human services until their parents' deportation proceedings are decided. if ultimately their parents are deported, they will be reunited with their children before they're deported. if their parents are granted a stay by a judge, then that parent has to file for sponsorship. at that point they'll be reunited with their children. these agencies are acknowledging there is still some work to do
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when it comes to collecting information from these families, so i've suggested ramping up efforts to do that and putting them in databases where it makes them more accessible to link these families and to make things easier. one thing that's missing is who explicitly is going to handle the lo jifbs of putting these families together once this protsz is completed. so it appears the agency does have a plan, but they want everyone to be safe as they try to figure things out. and president trump, yet again, is is sending a confusing message of what he wants congress to do till after the midterms to address reunification, and he's telling democrats to fix this problem, fred. >> does it happen to say how long, potentially, that processing would happen for a
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parent? because that will then determine how long it would take for them to eventually be reunited with their kid, right? >> right. it appears this will be handled on a case-by-case basis dependent on that child's legal status. if they are denied a stay in the united states, they'll more likely than not. as we saw, it could be a lengthy legal process, fred. here with me now, former political commentator and head of the advisory council, steve cortez, and former director for immigration and national immigrant services. the trump administration has this plan to reunite immigrant families. do you feel confident about it? >> well, yes.
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look, it will be a difficult process, but here's the thing. the best way -- when you say immigrant families, by the way, it's important to say illegal immigrant families. that's a very, very important adjective to add in there. immigrant families have never been separated. illegal immigrant families have been separated and i would say separated for a very good reason. why? because they're parents or guardians decided to commit a crime with children in. >> but it isn't that cut and dry, though, because you do have some people. the united states is being caged in that law that allows people to come ask seek asylum. >> that's not accurate. >> it is accurate, actually. >> no, it's not. fredricka, it's not accurate. if you show up to a port of entry in the united states with your children and request asylum lawfully, you are not separated
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from your family. you are not. >> but if you have to make your case about asylum, some of these people don't have a chance to state their case about asylum. it is legal trying to seek asylum by coming to the border. >> no, you have to come to a check point, raise your hand and say, i'm here for asylum. you can't cross the border and then say, i'm here to sign up for asylum. that's just not correct. >> so the guidelines that say an adult must be processed, and whether they're deported and they may be kegconnected to the child and the child would be connected to them before they leave the states, or they have to apply saying they would be a guardian before being reunited with their family. >> how hopeful are you, steve?
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>> look, these children are victims by their parents who decided to cross the border. come to a port of entry, sign up for asylum. let's be honest, central america is not a great place to be for a lot of folks. fo for economic reasons, perhaps for reasons of violence. >> you don't believe that many of the people in transit who have risked their lives even with the tir parents, they take that risk because their lives aren't as much in detriment than if they had stayed at home and face invite lethe violence they facing. >> i have empathy for that.
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thank goodness my father emigrated here legally. they wouldn't cross mexico to come to the united states if it were only about fleeing political persecution because they should be applying in mexico. by wait, mexico should be helping and applying in the united states. we don't want to deal with this problem. >> so how confident are you about this reunification plan, the details that have been released. not at. a cell phone-opposed. that cruelly separates parents from their children as they are seeking a better life. and the callousness and the
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heartlessness of how steve just spoke about this is the reason you are seeing such an incredibly huge and broad outcry from the this policy is unamerican and complete kl appalli appalling. the reason i don't think this new plan is going to work -- i hope it does -- is that the first wave of emigrants that were separated from their children, when their children were taken from them, there was no record of who these kids were. a lot of these children were less than two years old. a lot of them couldn't speak english, a lot of them couldn't speak at all. so how are you going to put these togetherment. they are like internment camps during this.
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all of these parents' claims, we're going to need many more immigration judges. when you have the president saying hiring these immigration judges is a waste of money and a waste of time, it underscores just how heartless and soulless he is and his supporters are, but just how incredibly foolish they are in terms of the immigration law and what those families were being held. those that were perpetrated by eleanor roosevelt, those were american citizens who were abused because they were suspected of disloyalty. we're not talking about people who criminally are trespassing in our country. but if you believe, maria, that anyone in the world wants to
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have a better life in america -- >> again, if you believe they have a right to be here, if they have a right to criminally trespass our borders and you believe on a family unit on top of that, then you believe in open borders. >> no, it isn't. >> that's the definition of ope. >> i don't believe in open borders. when people come here -- >> isn't the issue here about the humane treatment of people seeking entry? isn't that what you're talking about when we're talking about separation of families. i won't allow that euphimism. seeking entry is not the same as bashing down my door. >> they're not bashing down the
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door. >> yes, they are. >> even when these families are presenting themselves as asylum seekers, even then their kids are being taken away, number one. number two, crossing the border without papers is not a crime, it is a misdemeanor. and the way that the zero tolerance policy has been put in place is completely in -- they are being processed criminally and they don't have. it is a choice and it's inhumane. that's why the president is dealing with this tremendous debacle. >> steve, thank you very much. we just demonstrated this really is the tip of the iceberg of this cloolossal issue. >> colossal is a great word for it. thanks, fred. president trump facing a
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possible legal fight. a 1977 settlement could be used to challenge how long migrant children can be detained by the u.s. plus, celebrities sound off over the immigration chaos. i speak to westwood actress -- west world -- sorry -- actress rachel wood about what she is seeing at the texas border. we'll be right back.
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welcome back. a as the immigration process continues to texas, many people are protesting the separation. some celebrities are speaking out and that includes stars of the abc series "westwood." evan rachel wood is one of
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those. what compelled you to be a part of this and see what's happening at the border? >> i'm the mother of a five-year-old boy. i can't imagine the pain of being separated from him and not knowing where he is or when we would be reunited. and i actually wanted to come here personally so that i could learn because i want information, i want to know what i can do to help, and i want to be able to report back to other people. so i thought coming down here was the best way to get information firsthand. >> you had an opportunity to visit a shelter. what were your observations? were there children, were there parents inside that shelter? what did you see? >> i haven't been able to get into one of the detention centers, but i did visit a shelter where families are resting while they're being processed and sort of waiting to hear what their fate will be. and there were families there, there were children, some as young as two years old. probably the oldest was around
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eight. i played with them for hours. they were smart and funny and intelligent and creative and very desperate to play. the parents seemed very scared. i didn't notice -- there was only one mother around. it was mainly men and boys. so i don't know where the women are. >> and of those that you spoke to -- >> they were scared and tired and they needed supplies. we dropped off supplies to them this morning. >> of those you spoke to, what did they tell you they anticipate is next? what do they know is around the corner? or what are their worries about what they don't know that may be around the corner after this processing? >> well, i really wasn't able to communicate with them much because i don't speak the language. we really just communicated through our eyes and with gestures, and i really spent most of my time playing with the
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children. it seemed like that's what they needed in that moment, that the parents needed a bit of relief. so that's how i spent my morning. and giving them supplies. they definitely needed medicine. a couple of the children seemed like they were sick, so anybody that can donate shoes, socks, underwear, medicines, you know, basic human needs that you and i need on a daily basis is what they're needing right now, so that's what we did this morning. >> you're wearing a blue ribbon there, and i understand this is a characteristic of a hunger strike that you are participating in? how is this in relation to the immigration crisis right now that's unfolding? >> i'm on a 24-hour hunger strike right now with the texas civil rights project and the robert kennedy human rights that protest bad policy that hurt the
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community. the longest hunger strike is lasting 24 days. i'm taking on one of those days and that's why i'm wearing this medallion with the eagle on it. >> and you're also part of the group racies? what's that all about? >> we've been working with them on the ground today. they're taking us to the different detention centers, and just letting me know what we can do, where we can go and where the most help is needed. >> you had an opportunity to hear the conversation i was having with steve cortez and marie cardona earlier, and when you hear all the arguments about whether the families are being treated humanely, not humanely, whether there is merit, whether people are breaking the law seeking asylum. what are your thoughts when you hear these opposing points of
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view? >> i understand that there need to be laws, but i think the policies -- as they stand are cruel and extreme. this is not the only solution, and i have faith in people and in our minds and our love and we can come up. separating children from their parents and parents from their children is unimaginable and i don't think that it warrants that kind of treatment whatsoever. so we definitely need an immigration reform and better policies. >> just a moment ago as we were talking, a bus went by. you pointed at it. why did you point at it? was that a bus with people coming in to be processed or leaving? >> they're going to the detention center right now. it's going in. >> describe what that's like to see firsthand and what that means to you. >> it's absolutely gut-wrenching. it's been hard not to cry this
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whole trip. but i really -- i believe that we've -- it's become easy to dehumanize people because we dehumanized ourselves, and we've been made to believe that having human feelings makes us weaker. i don't believe that and i don't believe hate is natural. i think on we're all human beings and this isn't even about party right now, this is about children. that's it. >> actress evan rachel wood, thank you so much for your perspective. i appreciate it. >> thank you. straight ahead, president trump's executive order could draw a legal challenge from a 1977 landmark court decision. what that could mean for the trump administration's new immigration policy, next. this car is literally my baby.
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president trump's executive order at least temporarily has put an end to family separations at the u.s.-mexico border by instead detaining parents and children together. but that solution may set up a major legal challenge. the trump administration is now trying to modify the flores settlement, that landmark court decision that strictly limits the government's ability to keep children in detention. the ruling states that children can only be held for 20 days. that ruling coming in 1997. with me now to discuss this is
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shan wu who is a legal analyst. shan, thank you for being with us. this law that says holding children no more than 20 days, and already reportedly we're hearing that some kids have been separated from their parents or have been held for many weeks, how might there be a legal challenge ahead, potentially, for the trump administration's practices? >> well, there is a number of ways the challenges can come forth, but individuals can sue and advocacy organizations can sue. it's important to understand the context of flores. it's already, as we speak, being heavily litigated. the most essential points of it are as you mentioned, the 20-day limit of children that are with their parents, the children cannot be detained longer than that. and also it sets up for conditions usually of state licensing of the facilities. so right now in the executive order, the president has asked doj to relieve i.c.e. of those
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conditions. they want i.c.e. to be able to detain the kids longer than that and also actually to relieve them of the state licensing issues. although the position the justice department has taken says they still want to comply with the substantive protections of the kids' conditions. >> and that order also said that it would require immigration officials to place each detained minor in the least restrictive setting appropriate. and based on some of the descriptions that people have given about the cages and children, concrete floor, mylar blankets, is that tantamount to, you know, an appropriate restrictive setting for minors? >> it may not be the least restrictive and that's certainly going to be one of the challenges that's going to be mounted. really there is a presumption that you want the minors not being held perhaps placed in foster care. we heard some of those stories about kids being sent as far as manhattan for that.
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a very interesting aspect of this is it's probably part, as trump's tweets have reflected, part of their overall kind of immigration strategy here. they've long wished, the department of justice has long wished under sessions to do away with flores. they would prefer to keep families detained together. it's only one case for them, it's less expensive, and they would love to be able to detain them for as long as possible. this is really, perhaps, a back door assault on the flores conditions. >> all right, shan wu, thank you very much for that. appreciate it. >> good to be here. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren reviewing positions at a facility in mcallen, texas. you see images of her entering and she is hoping to get an update on efforts to reunify families detained at the border. polo sandoval is there for us. polo, what can you tell us about this visit? >> reporter: we have to remember this is just the latest lawmaker
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to make a visit to this facility all along the mexico border here. the senator could be walking out presumably any moment here. the senator of massachusetts making a stop at this center in mcallen. this is where many undocumented people come to essentially be processed by border patrol. some of them, of course, do end up in the federal courthouse and become subjected to these criminal charges of illegal entry under zero tolerance. so what does the senator from massachusetts see and what will she be taking back to washington? that's what we expect to see. >> polo sandoval, thank you so much. still to come, the u.s. supreme court to rule on the travel ban. will there be a retirement? we discuss next. and that's how he intended to keep it.
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welcome back. democratic massachusetts senator elizabeth warren just exiting a detainment facility there in mcallen, texas and here are her thoughts based on what she just saw. >> i've just come from the center. it's a disturbing picture. there are children by themselves. i saw a six-month-old baby accident little girls, little
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boys. there are mothers with their babies and with small children. family units are together if it's a very small child, but little girls who are 12 years old are taken away from the rest of their families and held separately, or little boys. and they're all on the concrete floors in cages. there's just no other way to describe it. they're big, chain link cages on cold concrete floors and metal blankets handed out to people. people are all just waiting and frightened. i was very lucky to have someone with me who speaks spanish fluently. we were able to ask people individually about their stories, about what brought them here, where they came from.
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those particularly from el salvador talked about the violence, talked about how gangs have threatened them individually. one woman explained that she had given a drink of water to the police and now the police -- that the gangs believe she is helping the police. and so she sold everything she has and she and her four-year-old son fled the country. she believes that she would not survive if she went back. we talked to others. we talked to mothers from honduras in particular who said, there's nothing there for us. we have no jobs, we have no money, we have no food for our children, and america is our last hope. the question we asked many of
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them where they sat in this cage, were they glad they came? and for all of them it brought smiles, and they said yes. i am here in america. this is not over. this is only the processing cent center. i finished here. i'm going from here to catholic charities and then i will go on to the detention center which will be the next place that many of these people go. i've got more work to do today, so forgive me if i can't stay long. >> we would like to ask you about the tweet by president trump today, which i'm guessing -- >> i don't think i've seen that. >> he made a tweet which -- i would hate to quote him specifically. it seemed to suggest that he did not want due process for people who come across the border, no court hearing, just send them back. >> that's not what our country
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stands for. we are a people who believe in the work of every human being. and we do have a system of laws in this country. and when a woman comes here with her four-year-old son and says, i am asking for amnesty, i have been threatened by gangs in my home country, we should at least give her a hearing. and that is the least that is required by us as a country and as a community. >> i'll talk to you people later. we've got more work. >> democratic massachusetts senator elizabeth warren, seemingly shaken by what she just experienced at a processing center in mcallen, texas. she came out after visiting
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roughly about an hour, according to when our reporter first saw her enter. she says it's a very disturbing picture. she saw a six-month-old baby. she saw children by themselves. she also saw five little girls 12 years old who had been taken away from their family. she observed that they are on concrete floors and she said there's no other way to describe it, in cages. she said from here she will be going on to a detention center where she will also be able to observe with her own eyes the kind of treatment she is able to witness of people who have entered the country and are being processed, and then what's next, she hopes to find out. we'll continue to keep close tabs on that. in the meantime, this is the last week now of the u.s. supreme court term and we're awaiting some pretty big decisions, including one involving the trump administration's travel ban. joining me right now, cnn supreme court reporter arianne
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devogue. what is next? >> the judges are taking the ben benches next term, but there is a question of whether andy will retire. he would likely be replaced with someone younger and more conservative. he voted with the liberals for abortion and affirmative action. if he were replaced, the court would move to the right for decades to come. and the most anticipated case, as you said, is the travel ban. it's the centerpiece of the president's immigration policy and it's ricochetted through the court. the supreme court let it go into effect. it bans travel to varying degrees for these countries, yemen, venezuela, north korea
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and syria. the challengers here say it was motivated by animous and it's legal. the president vowed to protect national security, and this version of the ban went into effect after a multi-agency review. they said the president was within his authority to pass it. so we should get that. we could get it as soon as monday but we'll certainly get it sometime this week, fred. >> all right, ariane de vogue, keep us posted on that. thanks very much. ahead, grief is swirling around the fatal police shooting of an unarmed teenager, next. sh! but the readiest gives a pep rally. i cleared my inbox! holiday inn express, be the readiest. holiday inn express, which is why i use armor tall ultra shine wash wipes.y. they effectively remove dirt,
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of protests. ryan nobles is many homestead, pennsylvania, where the service is taking place. so ryan, any more answers about this? >> reporter: there really isn't, fred and that's why the community is still on edge. and they're still asking for answers at to what happened to antwan rose jr. you can see behind me the funeral home where the services are supposed to take place in 15 minutes or so, but there's already a long line outside the building for mourners to pay their respects. they're expected to suspend those protests for the next two days in honor of the rose family, the calling hours taking place today, the funeral taking place tomorrow and the protesters decided they not going to take to the streets to
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allow the family an opportunity to grieve in peace. but they are warning that they will kick back up as soon as the services take place, unless they get some demands of steven cappella taken off this case and recusing himself and handing it over to the pennsylvania attorney general josh shapiro, he tells us he has no interest in stepping away from the case so it's expected that the tensions will continue. >> ryan nobles, thank you very much from homestead, pennsylvania. and we have reports of a teenaged boy who has been reported missing from a detainee facility. here's more on this from mcallen. >> reporter: fred, we have been asking questions about this situation that's been unfolding about 50 miles east of mcallen, texas south texas. we can confirm that a
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15-year-old child who was at that facility has now been reported missing. i spoke to a spokesperson from the brownsville police department who got called out there at 4:30 for this welfare concern. they're searching for a 15-year-old boy in the water ways around the area, in the surroundings around that facility, but they were unable to find them. what happened next, that child was then input into a database of missing children across the country. if that child appears somewhere else in the country they will likely know who he is. important to point out who he is. we do not know who that child is and what circumstances surround his stay or at least why he was in or around that facility. we do know that southwest key, the program who runs this operation has released a statement sharing a little more investigation. i'll read you that statement that came in to cnn, the spokesperson, as a licensed child care center, if a child attempts to leave any of our
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facilities, we cannot restrain them, we are not a detention center, we simply talk to them and try to get them to stay. if they leave the facility, which call the police department. a 15-year-old boy left the facility in brownsville yesterday and we continue to be concerned for him. many of these children who have been there for some time now, it will certainly call into question some of the practices there of some of these children being held there where their parents are being held under zero tolerance. we'll continue to dig for more investigation, but we can now confirm a 15-year-old child walked off one of those locations that has been used to house some of those children that's recently been separated from their children. we'll be right back. ♪ how do you like me now ♪ now that i'm on my way ♪ do you still think i'm crazy standing here today ♪
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go, people are very well informed about what's going on in canada and what's going on in the world and some people in the u.s. are -- >> i can't act like that's not true. >> but it's not like what's happened in the u.s. there's a lot more understanding. >> what do you mean about this? what do you mean by what's happening -- >> on the border situation. >> i'm not living south of the border, but in this case i do, from your perspective, what's going on south of the border. >> people are staying in their -- i think that in dcanad, there's a lot more understanding. >> i can do this. >> yeah. yeah. >> that's united shades of america, kamcamilla bell joinine right now. good to see you.
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in this week's episode. a few things have happened in recent weeks that have kind of, you know, made for a rather tenuous relationship. at least the president, president trump calling canada a security threat to the u.s. so did you feel safe while there? >> yes, i felt very safe. very invited and also very -- canada's not perfect, i don't want people to think -- there's a dye verse society, an international society, a welcoming society, is a better society. like i said, people feel that as you walk around, i mean it was in montreal and toronto. >> how do you feel about that? >> i found out i'm pretty good at curling.
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i maybe should have been born in canada, i would have been a natural born curler. and i maybe would have had a different career. >> what about winter sports, did you get on some skates, did you donate ice hockey? what kind of experience was this for you overall? that's what i'm getting at. >> here's the thing, it's kind of like america in that they speak a lot of english, they have a lot of restaurants here, it's sort or like a break, there's the feeling in canada, it was a very tense situation in the u.s., in canada, culturally, it just feels like, relax, take a deep breath, go get some free 4e health care, enjoy yourself. i think we have given canada a bad rap by considering them america junior, when they're hopefully america's future. >> appreciate you joining us, of course we'll all be joining the journey along with you, tonight
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on united shades of america on cnn. we have more ahead in the newsroom sand it all starts right now. >> all right, hello again, everyone, and thank you so much for being with me this sunday. we begin with breaking news, a teenaged boy has been reported missing from a detainee facility in brownsville, texas. >> reporter: we don't know a whole lot at this point. right now, my colleague is working to get more information right as we speak on the ground. but police in brownsville tell polo that a 15-year-old has now been entered into the missing children date -- database. they say he ran away from the facility, i want to read a statement that southwest key gave to cnn just a few moments ago. as a


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