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i'm monica cabrera in new york. breaking news right now, the unprecedented chaos on the u.s. southern border, the logistical mess, questions about human rights, legality and finger pointing, all of that has to wait for a moment because we're seeing something far more you are je are -- urgent right now. some children as young as 10 years old are able to walk out of that shelter without being stopped and it happened in brownsville, texas, a 15-year-old boy is alive and well but now back in mexico. for many hours his location and condition were not known, he slipped through the cracks. we got this statement from the shelter, as a licensed child care center, if a child attempts to leave any of our facilities, we cannot restrain them, we are not a detention center. we talk to them and try to get them to stay and if they leave the property, we call law
enforcement. a 15-year-old boy left the child care center in brownsville today, we called local law enforcement and continue to work with them. polo sandoval is in brownsville, texas. how surprising is it to learn that this shelter, this children's center is not allowed to prevent kids from just walking out? >> reporter: it's certainly prizing, ana, and you have covered what we know at this point, this 15-year-old child walked out of the child squacar facility and you heard from this statement of that child care facility. they are not allowed to hold them against their will, they're not even rallowed to put their hands on them. the only thing they can do is
walk with the children to the property line and talk to them, but once they get past that line, they have to let them go. they received a phone call calling officers to southwest key location in brownsville, texas to report the location of a 15-year-old boy, we now know that it was a 15-year-old child from honhonduras, and we do understand based on information from sourcers close to this investigation and with knowledge of what happened there, that this child is now in contact with relatives and in the process of returning back to his native honduras, this is happening as many questions are happening about what procedures are in place about how to get these children back with their parents, today, massachusetts senator elizabeth warren, the first lawmaker to visit a facility like this one in brownsville, texas. this is what she said after she
walked into this place and saw for herself the conditions these children are being kept in right now. >> there are children by themselves, i saw a 6-month-old baby, little girls, little boys, there are mothers, with their babies and with small children. family units, are together if it's a very small child, but little girls who are 12 years old are taken away from the rest of their families and held separately, or little boys. and they're all on concrete floors in cages, there's just no other way to describe it. >> reporter: senator warren, again, just the latest lawmaker to add to the chorus of critics about president trump's zero tolerance policy that at one
point called for the separation of these children from their parents so that moms and dads illegally in the country could go and face criminal charges for illegal entry. obviously the executive order last week put a stop to that separation, but there's still thousands of children in that system, and the department of health and human services are tasked with caring for these children. and now with the case of this 15-year-old child who left the premises, the question is what kind of protocols should be in place to make sure that those children do not wander away from the facility. because the facility stated earlier that they are not a detention center and they can only do what they're tasked with the law enforcement agencies which is to care for those children in those facilities. >> now part of the plan for
reuniting the thousands of families separated at the border. here's what we do know from the development of homeland security, when immigrant families first cross the border, they are detained and the parents are taken to i.c.e. custody and the children are turned over to the department of health and human services. 2,000 children remain with h hrk s. in some cases children sand their parents won't be reunited. the media hasn't been allowed to film inside those centers where these children are being held, even lawmakers are having trouble getting access, in fact democrats refused to leave a facility in new jersey after being denied access there. they banged on the glass until officials relented and left them
inside, watch. >> congressman, you're not entitled to do this. >> this is america, this isn't moscow. >> joining me now, one of those outraged lawmakers you just saw in that video, new york congressman, one of the trail blazers elected to congress. obviously this is san issue that is personal to you in many ways. >> very much so, yes. >> do you feel like since we saw you in that video that things have improved? >> at least the trump administration has now begun to back pedal on this zero tolerance policy that has left so much hurt and grief in these families and the nation is traumatized to hear that 9-month-old babies are being split from their moms and children are being split from their parents and weeks later, the parents don't know where their children are, they haven't spoken to them.
so this is a human rights crisis that's developed in america and even international entities such as the united nations and amnesty international, the conference of bishops and human rights watch have expressed concern about the other zezero e policy that has brought scotch hurt. but we're glad to hear that many children are back with their families, but there's several thousand of them that are not. many parents have been deported and haven't been able to get back to their children or get back to them. >> and i will point out that in the dhs fact sheet they put out regarding these reunification, they say in the past, many parents have been elected to be deported without their children, this is according to i.c.e. >> there has been so many lies perpetrated to the american people that we just don't trust
anybody anymore. that's why i went to visit those fathers in new york and i went to visit some of those children here in east harlem in new york, we have over 200 children there who have been separated from their families, have been flown from texas, from arizona, from california, thousands of miles and now they're in new york city, they're doing a tremendous job there, i think that they're trying the best way they can to connect them with their family members, but it's just so hard to do so. so this administration has really wreaked havoc on the american public. >> did you have a chance to speak to some of those children in that detention center and what was your take away? >> these children have some level of resilience in them, but obviously they must be traumatized, they have been spli split from their parents, and some of them have six or seven children, it's not just about
taking care of them, they're really invested. new yorkers have stepped up to provide help for these children, i'm proud of new york and i'm proud of this country, it's because of the american people that the trump administration has pulled back on this. >> i wonder if you have any flash backs or memories of your time visiting with these children who were being held there, recking what it was like to mr. that 9-year-old child coming from the dominican republic. >> i saw a child that was about 9 years old and i gave him a high-five and i spoke with him and it broke my heart. >> why did it break your heart? >> just to see them without their parents, i wondered what it would be like for me to be without my parents. >> so it did take you back then. there's a lot of questions be it the reunification process, here's the plan as we know it. here's what senator james langford said today about this
plan. >> let me clarify this, we know where every single child is, this is an issue that's gone out there, somewhat in some of the other media that's not been responsible for this with the atu assumption that that administration has lost track of them. >> is that true that the administration knows where every single child is? >> obviously the senator is saying that, but these parents, the men that i met with that were separated with their children, they didn't know where their children were. the government should have some level of records that show which child is where, which parent is where. but the parents didn't know. some of these children bring little notes attached with a safety pin with pieces of paper with their names and phone numbers. but there's no guarantee that everybody knows where their children are or have they spoken to them. i think that's false, the
government may know but they're not sharing that information. >> we do know that some of these children have tracking bracelets that are being housed in these facili facilities, but it makes you wonder if the administration knows who and where their parents are. >> why would the administration accept to deport a parent without first confirming whether or not that parent may want to take care child back with them? how come there are parents what have been deported and there's children here and those parents have not been able to speak with those children, as the "new york times" reported they have not been able to reyunite with thes children. >> president trump said on twitter, we cannot allow all these people to illegally enter our country. we need to bring them back to where they came. what's your reaction? >> any time anybody says these people, i'm very concerned about
that term. it's almost singularly a very aggressive term to try to divide america. these are people that are just coming to the united states because they're -- they're asylum seekers, we have a long standing tradition in our country to give asylum. usually when you're seeking asylum, you go before a judge and tell why you're steeking asylum, maybe you're in fear for your life. some of these i spoke to, their lives were clearly in danger, they were in imminent danger and their children, one of them felt very much that his daughter may be hurt just as bad as one of his business partners was hurt. so clearly these folks are running away from danger and death and our nation has
traditionally opened our doors to them and now we're not. maybe we're heading in the wrong direction. >> realistically, though, can the u.s. support every single immigrant who wants to come to this country or does there need to be some kind of a limit and what is that? >> there should be due process, once you step foot in the united states, you may not have all the rights and privileges that citizenship offers, but there's a die process extended to you to give you some rights. you have to go before a judge, i hear these procedures in the courts are for 50 or 60 people at a time. massive court proceedings where everybody is heard at one time and everybody is deported without extending to those people a singling opportunity to tell their story or knowing whether those people are being sent back to their death. >> nice to have you with us.
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of children torn from their parents are the sounds of kids crying at a detention center, most people here back the president. >> this is not our fault. they're coming to this state and reap, you know what i'm saying? i don't know how to explain it. >> reporter: you think that people are living off of the state without doing it legally? >> absolutely, and i think it's bull [ bleep ]. >> reporter: you hear a lot of anger, and some of the president's own arguments and that some of these immigrants are actually criminals posing as parents. >> some of these people are actually kidnapping kids just to come across the border. >> reporter: how do you know that? >> i don't know, but there's a lot of people hurt by bad guys
coming into this country. a lot of people. >> reporter: actually that isn't true, but it is what these donald trump 1trump supporters believe. >> trying to make us feel tear you eyed for the children, yes, i love children a great deal. but to me, it's up to the parents to do things rightly and legally. >> reporter: you support the president 100%? >> correct. >> reporter: not all trump supporters feel that way. in a trendy watering hole in scottsdale, i meet up with four conservative friends, despite the stereotypical image of trump support supporters, they're highly educated professionals with immigrants in their families. they all like trump's tougher stand on border protection, but all feel it's going too far. >> definitely not for separating
families. >> it wasn't well thought out the kind of human aspect of how this plays out both for the families and for the children. >> instead they see what's happening as an unintended consequence of a stricter policy. in their minds, unlike some other trump voters, zero tolerance should not mean zero compassion. mar sin. this week the immigration debate became so polarizing, even restaurant dining became key for several trump supporters. white house press secretary sarah sanders for dinner, asking
her to leave, white house senior advisor stephen miller and protesters chased homeland security secretary kirsten neilson from another restaurant this week. let's talk to daniel litman, and eliana johnson, politico's white house reporter. ryan, washington obviously is the center of politics, trump isn't the first president to do something polarizing, how unusual is this for white house staff to be hassled in this way? >> i think it's unusual. i think what we have seen in the past leweek with several trump officials including stephen miller and the head of the homeland security department being heckled and what happened to sarah, i think it looks like a direct consequence of the child separation policy that just outraged a lot of people.
i think, you know, whether you feel like it is an appropriate means of protest or not, depends a lot on how bad you think that policy is. and how you important it is to show -- to show some resistance to it and if you saw the int interview with the woman who owns the red hen in lexenton, virginia, she talked to her staff, and there were some people who were gayen the staff who objected to some trump policies, she thought about it, she talked to her staff and she decided she could not serve sarah sanders. and she did something that's well within her rights and politely asked sarah to leave. it depends on what you think about those policies.
i think sarah sanders' response to that i naught was very unusual, using her official white house twitter account, to talk about this woman, and talk about the restaurant. and i haven't seen press secretaries blast out a civilian who they had a run in with in a private space, sort of blast them using their official twitter account, i frankly found that somewhat -- as someone who covers government officials i found that curious and somewhat objectionable. >> sarah sanders seemed to have gotten the brunt of some of this anti-white house sentiment. and now she's kicked out of this restaurant in front of her family is this taking a personal toll on white house staff? >> i do think it's taking a personaling toll on a lot of white house staffers, but i would say folk's forcing them to be there, they're there of their
own volition, but i do think it raises a broader question, this restaurant owner is perfectly within their rights to ask sarah to leave, and sarah did so peaceably, it doesn't seem like it was a particularly hostile incident. but while of course she's perfectly will be her rights, i think it raraises the question this a society we want to live in where the people that we disagree with are not allowed to dine or being heckled or asked to leave. because it is people who work for trump right now, but will it be for people who work in democratic administrations next time heckled by 1ke69s and to me that's a little more unnerving about this, because while of course everybody's within their rights here, but to me it's not the kind of society i find pleasant to live in. >> and people aren't willing to talk to each other or being in
the same space with each other. you talked about a staffer. young staffers have had to develop a key to when to have the talk with -- but i know that i need to be careful about broaching the trump stuff, i just need to know that going in and get it out at the right time, and not too early, like hey, i work for trump, you should stop talking to me. but late enough that they know this is enough information is floating out there that i work for this guy and hopefully there's not enough -- it's so eye opening, daniel and you've talked to dozens of current and former trump staffers? >> i talked to people going into the trump white house, they expected kind of a glamorous job, they would be able to get a lot of new friends and have cachay for is job market after their tenure in the
administration and what i found is a lot of people, they have had a lot of trouble just operating in d.c. as part of the administration, it's hard for hem to get dates, friends don't talk to them sometimes from their former lives who are liberal and so while their do have cool jobs and they are making an impact on what they believe in policy wise, they have been osz sts o ostracized since 2016. >> and why would anyone want to work in this wohite house? >> it's a good question and you hear a lot of reasons and it's something i ask some of my sources in the white house and it's either they feel they are advancing policies that are doing good and many times they feel like they're protecting from bad things happening and they feel like they have more of
an impact than they would in other white houses so when you take the personal stuff out of it, they really do feel like they can have a lot of impact in the trump administration? >> ryan, you call argue that there's a lot of -- the same people who are outraged over a baker who lee frrefused to bakee for a gay couple, a the same people who are defending this restaurant owner who kicked out the white house press skecretar? >> in this case we're not talking about any protected class of people. we have a constitution and we have laws that protect people based on discrimination against gender, sexual orientation, race, et cetera, but you're not a second class citizen just because you happen to work for donald trump. star are sanders is a grown woman, she's working for one of the most controversial
politicians ever to be in the white house and i think she should expect there's going to be some serious, serious push back considering the extremes in policy that this white house is pushing. so, you know, if you're the white house press secretary, you're a pretty powerful person in this country, you've got a lot of restaurants, even in lexington, virginia, so i think it's not quite the same as the argument that we're talking about a protected class of people as we do with the bakers and the same-sex marriage. >> got to leave it there, guys, ryan lizza, daniel litman.
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permanent damage. psychological, fear, anxiety, the fear of the unknown, if this could happen to me, what else could happen to me. >> reporter: he's talking about the children he and his staff have been caring for since they arrived days ago. >> the biggest concern that our children have had recently is for their parents. it's not even about themselves, is my mom okay, is my dad okay, where are they? what's happening? >> reporter: he was able to give more details about the children in his care, but he was still able to give us a sense of what happens when children arrive here. >> they come in here, we have nurses 24/7, and we have a team of doctors. >> reporter: first stop is a medical exam. many arrive with conditions such as lice and chicken pocx, but te
doctors here say the emotional damage can be the toughest to treat. >> believe me i was just as indignant and outraged by our recent policies that hopefully are shifting, removing kids from their parents because we know this causes permanent trauma to the child and can affect their brain development, especially the younger kids. >> reporter: the kids stay in rooms like this and there's also a recreation center where play is encouraged. >> children might cry, but when you bring things like sports, something to take their minds off of what's going on in their lives, that's what we fry to do best. >> reporter: this facility has also tried to help the children contact their parents. >> it's the first step to helping them trust us, we know where your mom is, now trust us
for the next step. it's hard to help children who don't trust you. it's impossible to. >> a first generation american in sri lanka, he says the first priority is to reunite these children with their families. >> reporter: is it going to be weeks? months? >> it's hard to answer that question, but the word i could use best to describe it, expediency is what it's all about. we don't want to keep kids away from families one minute longer than they already have been. >> jason caroll, cnn, we westchest westchester, new york. ♪ ♪ ♪ raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens ♪ ♪ bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens ♪ ♪ brown paper packages tied up with strings ♪
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have seen a lot of tears here today, a lot of hughugs, a lot people just trying to lift people up in the wake of this tragedy. protesters have decided they are not going to take to the streets of pittsburgh tonight to protest what they see as this investigation heading the wrong way, they want the family to be able to use these two days to remember their son. that being said, they're ready to kick those protests back up as early as tuesday, if they do not get the progress they feel they are looking for, and they do not believe that the district attorney can investigate this case properly and they want the attorney general to take over. we need to point out that while these protests have been very peaceful there is a lot of tension sand a lot of anger, these protests will continue
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order means going forward. we're high lighting some of the most pressing national security issues the president will face when he wake s up tomorrow. two years in the obama administration helping to prep for the presidents daily brief. so we're seeing a lot of presidential tweets, there's this ongoing debate about immigration policy and how to curb illegal immigration. how does this line up with reality? >> reporter: well president trump's own state department issued a strategy over a year ago on central america, central america is the origin region for about 50% of the illegals trying to cross our southern border, it talks about the need to address poverty and violence in central america. these migrants fleeing these
countries that it's like a walk through central park, this couldn't be further from the truth. thousands of children every month make this journey and are at risk for kidnapping, trafficking or death. el salvador and guatemala, one in two children under the age of 5 is malnourished. and in mexico about 46% of the population is suffering from poverty. so border walls and child abuse are not going to solve these problems. >> i have to wonder what the world is thinking outside our own borders, what these other countries may be thinking watching this play out. we have the king and queen of jordan visiting the white house tomorrow. do you think this immigration issue will come up? >> i think that it will, and i think that it's going to be a role reversal. for generations we have urged countries like jordan to do more, to help refugees, to help vulnerable people. we've given billions of dollars
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this news just in to cnn. stormy daniels will be interviewed by federal prosecutors in new york tomorrow. this as part of their investigation into president trump's former prernls attorney michael cohen, according to a source. you'll remember this centers around that $130,000 payment cohen made to daniels. her lawyer, michael avenatti, declined to comment when the "washington post" first reported this news. overseas, women in saudi arabia can do something now they could never do before without fear of prosecution or even
jail. they can drive legally. at midnight the kingdom lifted its controversial decades-old ban on female drivers. it's part of reforms pushed by saudi arabia's crown prince. and dumbs after years of campaigning by activists who have sometimes been arrested and imprisoned for their efforts. jomana karadsheh caught up with some of these first saudi women to get behind the wheel. >> here we are today with one of the first women to get on the road this morning in jeddah. this is rosanna benoui. how does it feel? >> exciting. i'm overjoyed. i didn't even have breakfast. i just went out of the house. >> so did you ever think this would happen? >> yes, i did. and i remember i was in the car when i got the news. my best friend called me on the mobile and she's like oh, my god, you won't believe this, it's all over the news. i was like yelling in the car. >> how is this going to change
your life? >> i don't know. it's already changing my life. i'm thinking of gas now. like on all levels. with the family, with myself, having the accessibility and option is really what it's about. >> you told me that you have children and it gives you the ability to take your children. i can see a car seat already in the back. >> and i think that's one of the -- the nice things about driving, is that you can go with your kids and like have memories and go on road trips. it's also a bonding thing for the family. but also i think driving is good for practical things but sometimes not just practical things. it's nice sometimes just to have the freedom to go and ride, just take a drive. so i think it's both of those things. >> what's next for women? saudi arabia? >> oh, my god. like everything. it's happening. it's now. i think everything is now, now,
now. >> and that was jomana karadsheh reporting. a saudi government official says more than 120,000 saudi women have already applied for their driver's licenses. # you're in the "cnn newsroom." thank you for staying with me. i'm ana cabrera in new york. and on the u.s. border with mexico this week little boys and girls, many of them without their parents, are behind locked doors on concrete floors sleeping in what amounts to cages. that is how u.s. senator elizabeth warren describes the conditions inside a migrant children and family shelter in south texas. she visited this center a short time ago and calls what she saw inside disturbing. cnn's paula sandoval is in mcallen, texas. polo, this was senator warren the first time inside one of these sprawling migrant centers on the border. why was it important for her to see firsthand and what did she tell