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there. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. the turkish bases have been incredibly important in the fight against the so-called islamic state and of course turkey is the only muslim nation within nato. >> sam kiley, thank you for being live for us in istanbul on this important election. we appreciate it. we have a lot to get to. let's get started. top of the hour, good morning, everyone. i'm poppy harlow in new york. this morning, president trump throwing another roadblock in immigration negotiations as thousands of children sit in shelters, still separated from their undocumented parents. moments ago, the president saying the u.s. should not hire more judges to help process these immigration cases on the southern border, despite some key members of his own party pushing exactly that. meanwhile, more than 2,000 kids are still being held away from their parents and despite the administration's newly released plan to reunite the families
there are no clear details of how that will happen. what else is he saying? >> reporter: the president doubling down on his hard-line immigration rhetoric days after signing an executive order he said was intended to show heart by allowing families to be reunited and now seems to be fixated on this issue of immigration judges, saying the only solution to the problem at the border is to allow people to be deported immediately without any due process whatsoever. he says they should be stopped at the border and told they can't come back in. illegal immigration will be stopped in its tracks, he says, if that happens. but as you mentioned, even republican lawmakers have recommended not thousands but hundreds of new immigration judges to deal with a long-standing backlog of immigration cases only made worse by the president's zero tolerance policy at the border. while all of this is happening, there are still some questions that remain to be answered about
the re -- the plans to reunite families who have already been separated. we have some new guidance from the trump administration about what might happen to them in this process, and it could be lengthy, according to this, the families and the children will be kept in custody while their parents are going through their legal process, and if the parents are deported, then the families will be reunited and they can be deported together or the parent can choose to be deported alone. but if the parent is released, hhs says that they will reunite the parents if the parents apply to be the child's sponsor. that process can be lengthy, it can take weeks. and there is still questions about how quickly these parents, some 2,000 children, can be reunited with their parents in this process, poppy. >> and, abby, we know as a u.s. deals with these families and these children, in terms of ahead of any of the hearings, can be months, right, until those hearings happen, they're planning to hold some of them on these temporary camps on
military bases. what is defense secretary james mattis saying about that? >> reporter: that's right. there is not the capacity at the moment to house families or perhaps all the individuals who are coming over from across the border, so james mattis has followed the directive from the president to find space in u.s. military facilities here in the united states. we don't know exactly where they are going to be, but we do know that in recent weeks hhs officials have toured sites in texas and arkansas and these will be camps that the defense department has built in the past for other occasions, for the people who have been victims of hurricanes, for refugees and other countries, and mattis calls it logistical support, but they're preparing clearly to house thousands of families together as the trump administration figures out how to keep families together and not continue to separate them at the border, poppy. >> abby phillip at the white house, thank you. lawmakers are touring some of the shelters and detention centers where these undocumented immigrants and children are being held. this as protest at the port of
entry in texas are expected to continue. diane gallagher is there. i know you're set in a few hours to tour some of the facilities. but one of the key talking points from democrats has been, well, these ports of entry don't actually work for asylum seekers, there are rules, they're lined up, they're not able to get in. what are you seeing on the ground? >> reporter: we're not seeing that per se right now, poppy. we have seen plenty of vehicles and people on foot coming through the port of entry this morning, once it opened at 6:00. everyone we spoke to who had come in through mexico, we talked to those on foot and in vehicles, didn't see lines of people waiting. but that is what we heard not just from individuals, but from charity and advocacy organizations working with these individuals here. they said that they come here, they're rejected or made to wait for seeking asylum and then they go and turn around and try to come through another area at which point they are intercepted as being crossing illegally.
now, you mentioned those protests, well, we're expecting another one here today, a little later this morning. it has been happening about every single day for a week here. we don't think it will be anything like what we saw over the weekend. here in tornillo, hundreds of people showed up to not just express their solidarity with the children at the tent city here, but also their anger at the trump administration for slowing the reunification process in their eyes and also for really just enacting the zero tolerance policy to begin with. it was the same kind of scene across the state of texas as well as other states where these temporary shelters housing these children are. now, we're going to get a chance to see the tent city in about an hour now. i'm going to go inside, once again, no cameras, no phones, no recording devices, just a pen and paper and we're not sure how much we'll get to see. lawmakers who went in there over the weekend said they were pretty restrictive. they looked at a lot of it over closed-circuit television, they didn't nearly get to interact with children, we'll update you,
but we don't have high expectations for transparency or really being able to access anything. >> diane, let us know what you do find, thank you for being here. joining me now is paul callan, also sonia nosario, pulitzer prize winning journalist foc focusing on these issues. thank you for being here to both of you. >> thank you. >> so i should note you do have an opinion piece about this in the times and we'll get many th into that in a moment. paul, to you, the president saying that the solution to immigration problem is not due process, that these undocumented immigrants should not have legal representation, which, by the way, they're not guaranteed, they don't often get legal representation, but we should have, quote, no judges or court cases. just bring them back to where they came from. legally? >> well, his suggestion doesn't work under u.s. law because the
moment somebody touches you us so u.s. soil, they step over the border into the united states, they have a due process right to a hearing before a judge as to whether they should be deported. that's u.s. law and that derives really from the 14th amendment to the u.s. constitution, by the way, which gives this right not just to american citizens, but to any person on u.s. soil. the president has to deal with this as it exists and is not willing to face up to it? >> in terms of more immigration judges, this is something that the president has said we should not have. but, sonia, it is something that some -- the biggest name republicans in the senate are calling for, senator ted cruz is calling for it, senator ron johnson of wisconsin, just listen to this. >> you know, they want to hire now 5,000 more judges so that a person puts a toe in land, we have to go to trial. this is crazy what we're doing.
i don't want judges, i want border patrol, i want ice. we don't want judges. >> what one possible -- increase the number of immigration laws by 225 judges. right now we have 350. 74 at the border. we need to increase that. >> i introduced legislation this week that mandates kids stay with their parents, that doubles the number of federal immigration judges. we need more resources to process cases to adjudicate them quickly. >> but, sonia, you oppose, for example, what senator cruz is proposing. you say more judges doesn't help the families. why? >> well, it would be good to have more judges. we have a huge backlog of cases before the immigration courts and it takes years for these cases to get through the courts and people are -- rankle at the idea that people can stay here for years while cases are proceeding. i understand that. and the need for law and order and the rule of law. however, what ted cruz wants to
do is gut this due process by saying you have to are court cases through the courts in 14 days it days. most lawyersell you it takes a year, minimum, to come up with the witness reports and get police reports from countries four countries away. it is impossible to do it in that time frame and have a fair process. he's trying to gut the process. >> i'm glad you bring that up. that presents quite a difficult legal challenge because of the flores agreement, you can't hold children for more than 20 days. >> yeah. >> but if it takes a year, as sonia is arguing, to really have a fair hearing and a fair trial, and for these migrants to get some sort of legal representation through legal aid or if they can afford private representation, you want the parents with the children, then you've got to hold them together for a year or however long it
takes. so that's what resulted in catch and release, right? >> absolutely. and that's why -- this is not a new problem. you know, president bush dealt with it, president obama dealt with it, it has been going on for 16 years where these numbers of refugees and we should be talking about them as political refugees, not undocumented or migrants. when they make a political asylum claim, u.s. law calls them a refugee, and gives them certain rights. and -- but the system as you just said, it just isn't set up to deal with children who are with their parents, so prior presidents when the numbers got too high, they said, you know what, we're going to release them, pending their hearings because, yes, of course, you can't do one of these hearings in 14 days, they have to bring witnesses in from their prior country to show that they suffered from a political system of violence and a threat to them based on their gender, race or religion or other factors. >> so, sonia, to that, the counterargument to catch and
release is, well, they don't show up for court. and that's not totally factual. a number of them do show up for court. some don't show up for court. can you fact check that for us in terms of the percentage we're looking at on those that actually do come back to have the hearings. >> there is an alternative, a humane effective alternative to locking locking families up doesn't help because it harms children. they revert to bed wetting, they -- a 9-year-old girl wanting to breast-feed again, they're terrified by this. these children come from neighborhoods and i think the point that paul is making is very important. i spent a lot of time in the neighborhoods in central america, where 8, 9, 10-year-old boys are forcibly recruited into gangs, where girls are told you're going to be the girlfriend of the gang leader. i spent time in a neighborhood where the gang so controlled the streets that one day they were playing soccer with the head of someone they had decapitated. these are not economic migrants,
people coming for a better life. these are folks who are coming, fleeing for their lives in large part. and in world war ii, we turned back a ship with 900 jews aboard. i'm jewish. hundreds of those jews were returned to germany and murdered in the holocaust. we did not allow anne frank's family to come to this country. we read the diary of anne frank and she was murdered. and we said after world war ii, we were a leader in protecting refugees and saying, never again. and yet this is what we are doing now. this is abrogating our core values as americans. we will protect people who are running from harm. this is not a large number of people. but we're talking 15 -- >> is it a solution, catch and release, what existed before? >> the solution is a case management program that the u.s. had a pilot with in 2016, that was canceled by the trump administration a year ago. you release people, and you assign them a case manager, they help them get legal representation, help them get
housing, but they also instruct them on when they have to show up to court, and the importance in showing up to court. and 99% of those people did show up to court. it works. and we have other two programs that use ankle monitors. 96% of those folks showed up to court. they were released with their children, much more humane, and they're much more likely to get legal representation if they're not in these very isolated family detention centers that we have. >> thank you, both, for being here. we'll keep talking about it and you will both be back on this, paul callan, sonia nosario, thank you very much. searching, searching, searching for civility, name calling, public shaming now becoming the political norm on both sides. plus, president trump on the campaign trail tonight in south carolina, will the boost -- he's going to boost one of his earliest backers. how much will it help. in minutes the teen that was shot and killed in east
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more breaking news, the supreme court, let's go straight to jessica schneider. this has to deal with redistricting, voting maps drawn in texas. what did the justices decide? >> reporter: another gerrymandering case front and center at the supreme court this morning. the supreme court ruling that three out of the four districts in texas, the voting districts that were challenged, three or four of them may stand. these were districts that were challenged by plaintiffs who said that they were intentionally discriminated against when these districts were being drawn. so the supreme court upholding three of four of those districts, but saying that one of the state legislative districts, the way it was drawn, was not in fact proper. so this is a case that really dates back all the way to 2011, these plaintiffs have been fighting it for several years now saying that the way that
these state maps were drawn, they say they diluted the voting strength of african-americans, as well as latinos, they say the way the maps were drawn just weren't equitable, but, poppy, today, the supreme court upholding three of four of those districts and yet another gerrymandering case, a lot of them have been here at the court, some partisan gerrymandering. today dealing with the issue of supreme court upholding most of the issues in texas. >> jessica schneider, thank you. we appreciate it. what is happening in america? civility out, shaming and shunning in. on the same weekend white house press secretary sarah sanders is asked to leave a restaurant, maxine waters says don't let the public shaming stop with sanders. >> do you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a
department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you push back on them and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere. >> the congressman pushing more division in a nation already seemingly divided. >> shame, shame, shame. >> protesters yelling shame at dhs secretary kirstjen nielsen at a mexican restaurant. president trump name calling at a political rally. >> i won't do it. wacky jackie. i think somebody said she's in nevada right now, campaigning with pocahontas. >> and hollywood is not helping. >> do something about your dad's immigration practices, you feckless [ bleep ]. >> i'll say one thing. [ bleep ] trump. >> they said our dad wants to meet you. and i turned around and paul ryan was walking towards me.
and i said, no way, man. >> roseanne's tweets turn racist and a former trump adviser apologizes after saying this. >> michael hayden posted a picture of auschwitz. >> that liberal michael hayden, yeah. that screaming liberal michael hayden. >> you're out of your cotton picking mind. >> cotton picking mind? brother, let me tell you something. let me tell you something. i got some relatives who picked cotton. >> okay. >> you're out of your mind. >> this is america. 2018. i could go on. this is all just in the last few weeks. let's talk about civility. with me, david gergen, former adviser to presidents nixon, ford, reagan and clinton and selena zito is also here. david gergen, you have lived through a lot, you have advised a lot of presidents, you have seen a lot. where are we today?
>> we're adrift and the country is very, very much on boil, i think. the emotions are running very high on all sides. there are large number of people on both coasts who think trump is totally unethical, that he's a moron, all the other kind of epithets one can think about. and there are people in his base who not only are strongly formed, but more strongly formed now and they're fed up with what a press and the left they think has been carping, doesn't give any credit whether for the the economy, north korea. and gradually i think both sides have now reached the point where they're so frustrated and so fed up and so impatient for change that this could lead almost anywhere. it is extraordinarily divisive. i cannot remember a time -- the anti-war movement in vietnam, the civil rights movement, you know, in the '60s and early '70s, both were much more civil in tone. even the anti-war movement was more civil, certainly the civil
rights movement among the people who are protesting. >> selena, to that point, i mean, you can impose the policy and you should be vocal about what you believe. kicking sarah sanders out of a restaurant, trying to eat over the weekend, doesn't change policy. so that happened. and then maxine waters, the democrat in congress, is, you know, giving this featured rally and she calls for further division. and then you've got the republican party, though, giving this president in a new gallup poll a new rating. he wouldn't argue he was divisive, he won't argue against that. how do you explain this? >> first of all, the good news, that whole clip was disheartening, no matter what side of the aisle you're on, you're watching that and it makes your heart hurt. i will tell you the good news is i just drove from savannah to pittsburgh on the back roads, like 900 miles, 13 hours on the road and i didn't see anybody -- i met people of all, you know,
political persuasions, races, you didn't see people interacting, behaving that way with each other. so that's the good news. i think sometimes what happens on social media, and on the news, we see these things amplified. so as david said, we have had great, you know, divisive moments and political moments in history throughout this -- throughout our history and this country. but the problem is two fold. first of all, social media, as i just said, and the constant news coverage amplifies it and makes it bigger and makes it, you know, puts it in your living room. but, you know, i -- the problem, i think, for people that are going towards trump's coalition is that the people that have the most power and culture are the people that live in the coasts. they're the ones in pop culture, right? they're the ones that are more
part of the media, more part of hollywood and those kinds of things that, like, de niro said or maxine waters said pushes people who might not even really like trump a lot, but pushes them away from the democrats because they feel as though their culture is being disrespected. >> to that point, here is what glenn beck said to brian stelter about exactly that this weekend. >> don't you understand what you're doing? you're driving people into the arms of donald trump. you're driving them into it. >> david gergen, what do you think? >> listen, i do think that cultural issue is a fair point. our culture does not -- has never been very, you know, hollywood culture never very sympathetic, for example, to the pro-life movement. not very sympathetic to the tea
party movement. and there are a lot of americans who feel like they have been treated as second class citizens. but i must tell you, we have never had a president who is -- lit the fire and put the country on boil more than this one. i think if, you know, the culture has been here for a long time. what has dramatically changed is the nature of our leadership. and the incivility in washington, incivility preceded donald trump to washington. it was there long before he got there, the polarization and all the breakdown of norms was there. but it is accelerated, deep and has become much more poisonous. we're beginning to see threats to the way we live with each other. we're beginning to see threats to the whole idea we hold a democracy, that we may have our disagreements, but we basically have the same values. >> you know, selena, former supreme court justice antonin scalia and current sitting justice ruth bader ginsburg could not have disagreed more when it came to the law and the
constitution. but they were dear friends. and they were able to have dinner and have a discourse despite being on the opposite side of almost every issue. how does this country get back to being like that friendship? >> i do see that everywhere. i see that a lot, so it is not gone. but what is amplified is what we see on the news, you know, what we see on social media, those things that divide us. to david's point, and what is in the great revolt, donald trump did not cause what is going on, this populism that is going on. he's just the result of it. and if we don't pay attention to it, if we don't address it in a meaningful way it continues long beyond his presidency. i think that's, like, the important lesson in the great revolt and the important lesson of what is going on is this
continues, and i think we need to address it more effectively, more thoughtfully. >> of course the great revolt, your new book, selena zito, thank you for being here and david gergen, always good to have you. hundreds of families have been lined up at the u.s./mexico border for week seeking asylum. what they're saying amid all this confusion over family separation. a live report ahead. (anna) show me the movies.
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leyla santiago has more. behind you are people that have been waiting for weeks on end. what are they telling you? >> reporter: these are all families that are now on this sort of unofficial list, that they themselves have created they themselves are managing to get in line to seek asylum in the united states of america at this port of entry, the legal way to do so. and, you know, when i talk to some of them, some of them tell me, look, our plans never changed. we have been in line for weeks now, hoping to just get a chance to speak to a u.s. immigration official, but sometimes you talk to the mothers, especially the mothers that are traveling with small children, i talked to one woman, she is a mother, honduran mother, traveling with her 7-year-old boy, and she said when she saw the images, when she heard the audio of the cries of children being separated, she said she got out of line, she said, i can't do this and didn't know what to do. for her, going back to honduras, she says would mean death. so there was a sort of uncertainty that she is dealing with. since president trump signed
that executive order, she said she back in line, back in line waiting to seek asylum, in the united states of america. she said she left honduras because of deadly threats to not only her, but also her child and she is a bit confused of the back and forth and what is happening in terms of immigration policy in the united states, but plans to at least try to seek asylum. >> i think oftentimes we feel very detached from what is happening on the ground there and what you're seeing firsthand. you spent some time in a shelter, right, for minors, talking to them about how bad the situation is in their home country, the threats they face, the reason that they flee, oftentimes parents putting them on a bus and saying, go. >> reporter: right, that was one conversation that just stuck with me, i spoke to a 16-year-old girl and she said the gangs had been following her for quite some time, finally they got to her and said, you have two options. 16 years old, they said you have two options.
either sell drugs or become a prostitute. she went home, told her parents, the next day they put her on a bus to try to get her to her aunt in north carolina. she said that her mom was crying when she left, and her mom crying, hugged her and told her i'm so sorry to have to do this to you, but this is for your own safety. that young child, that 16-year-old, think about that, 16-year-old, is in this line hoping to seek asylum in the united states. >> leyla santiago, i'm glad you're there live for us this morning. the mother of an unarmed teen shot and killed in east pittsburgh, antwon rose, being laid to rest today and his mother speaking out saying her son was murdered in cold blood.
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east pittsburgh police officer shot the 17-year-old last week as he ran from a car that was pulled over. he was unarmed. his death sparked days of protests that are ongoing and his casket just arrived at the funeral service in swissvale, pennsylvania, where athena jones is. for first time we're hearing from his mother. >> reporter: hi, poppy, that's right. michelle kenny, antwon rose's mother, spoke with abc's "good morning america" about the loss of her son. watch. >> that was my baby. >> he murdered my son in cold blood. if he has a son, i pray his heart never has to hurt the way mine does. >> the ones that say antwon shouldn't have been in the car, to that, you say -- >> my son is dead. for all those people that say
that, their son must be at home. >> reporter: an emotional interview with the parents of antwon rose. protests have been on hold for the last couple of days, so that the family and the friends of rose and the community can pay their respects, celebrate the life of antwon rose. yesterday, some -- hundreds of people lined up to view his body, to pay their respects and we expect a large showing here at the funeral. i want to read to you part of what -- the family's lawyer, lee merit, said in a tweet. he said antwon's light was snuffed out by police brutality and that today we mourn, tomorrow we fight. and so as i mentioned, while the protests have been on hold for the last couple of days, they're expected to pick back up after the funeral tomorrow. >> athena jones for us, thank you very much. again, the funeral beginning in just a few minutes. federal prosecutors will not be meeting with stormy daniels
today. daniels' attorney michael avenatti say it was canceled because of the media attention it was gaining. it was expected to focus on daniels' potential grand jury appearance, about the payment she received from michael cohen's company in 2016. the question being was that hush money, did it violate any federal election commission rules? no word from federalrosecutors about why the interview was canceled or if it is going to be rescheduled. some of president trump's staunchest supporters. farmers in iowa say they can only take so much. >> is there a point when iowan farmers abandon trump? >> yeah, there is a point. >> there is a point? >> yeah. >> where is that point? >> gosh, i wish i knew. when we were dating, we used to get excited about things
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breaking news, harley-davidson, an iconic american company, saying this morning that they will move some of their production to europe. why? they're trying to avoid european union tariffs on u.s. goods. the eu announced tariffs in response to the trump administration's tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from europe. harley-davidson calls this the only sustainable option, says they could lose as much as $100 million a year if this trade war keeps heating up. it is notable that harley-davidson makes most of its motorcycles in the united states, in states that were very important to trump's win of the white house. wisconsin, pennsylvania, and missouri. across the state lines, farmers in iowa say they're also feeling the hit from the recent trade moves. here is nick watt. >> reporter: dark clouds over an
iowan's soybean field, there may be a metaphor in that. >> i'm worried some. i'm concerned. >> reporter: what about iowan hulk farmers. >> anxious times, no doubt about it. >> reporter: because in april, china slapped an extra 25% tariff on imports of american pork. >> the pigs you're talking 200 to $300 million impact already. >> reporter: now china threatens something similar on soybeans. two largest economies on earth locked in a trade war largely over intellectual property in the tech industry. >> we get punished, we as agriculture, so to speak, that was a good one. >> reporter: iowa gets hit hard, one of the top soybean producers and the top pork producer. did you vote for president trump? >> yes, i did. >> reporter: you voted for president trump? >> yes, i did. >> i have to come to iowa. >> reporter: his tariff-laden trade policies may now hit his
base hard. chinese motives are veiled, but mexico now blatantly targeting tariffs at states like iowa that voted trump, slapping 10% on pork. rob blunt now among the most vulnerable incumbent republicans in the midterms. >> they'll get more vocal as it gets more painful. but we're going to try to be patriotic. >> reporter: so is there a point when iowan farmers abandon trump? >> yeah, there is a point. >> reporter: there is a point? >> yeah. >> reporter: and where is that point? >> gosh, i wish i knew. i wish i knew. we might be there. >> reporter: the president has pledged to help farmers. the details remain unclear. >> a lot of the stuff he's done is good, right now if the trade negotiations go on, ask me in six months because it is painful right now. >> reporter: right now, he stands to lose over half a million dollars this year alone.
nick watt, cnn, iowa. >> nick, thank you. hard to miss that pig fighting video in there, fascinating piece, we appreciate it. president trump will head to south carolina tonight ahead of the state's primary tomorrow. he's trying to save one of the earliest backers of his presidential campaign, governor harry mcmaster, the first state wide elected official to endorse trump in 2016 and in danger of losing his republican nomination. just the latest test of the president's poll in republican primaries. cane dawson is with us. >> glad to be with you. >> you note how notable it is that first tombime a president vice president have come into the state before the general election. what is at stake here for the party and for the president outside of just south carolina? >> well, you're right, poppy. it is unprecedented that the loyalty that donald trump has shown toward governor harry
mcmaster is unprecedented along with mike pennsylvania now, remember mike pence one day will run for president and there will be a south carolina primary here and he'll be certainly welcomed again. so there are a lot of moving parts here when you're an early presidential state. again, i would say endorsements don't always matter that much in a primary. nikki haley and tim scott endorsed marco rubio, two people both in the mid-80s in the polling. nikki haley, popular governor, mitt romney and newt gingrich beat him. with that being said, when you land air force one in a state like south carolina, the day before a primary, a runoff primary, it tells every one of your supporters to go vote. it is invaluable what will happen. now, the message that the president is going to deliver tonight, we're not sure what that is. that could be illegal immigration. it could be taxes. it could be a sundry of things that comes out. i don't think any of that will
hurt governor mcmaster. all of it will be to his benefit. >> you said the president's high approval rating is because of its -- his policy. not because of his personality. it is not because of the rhetoric. you bring up emigration. if he talks about immigration tonight, as you know, it has been hard for many republicans to stomach the separation of families at the border and some of his staunchest supporters called him out on that. how do you think he plays that? >> well, poppy, i remember the quality crowd we had running for president when donald trump won our primary here. and i saw the same thing that we have seen in other segments today on cnn, i've seen the attitude of the republican base voter, donald trump is elected for a couple of things. he was elected because of illegal immigration and his stance and wanting to build a wall on the southern border. he was elected to provide jobs
and level the playing field. and then he was elected really to go turn all the tables over in washington. so he'll deliver those messages tonight one more time. that's why his popularity is there. i don't see any danger in what he's going to do tonight. >> let me ask you about something the president just retweeted this tweet from republican senator marco rubio. quote, trump haters still haven't realized how much they help him with their condescension of those who either voted for him or don't share their hatred of him and how much they help him with their irrational hostility toward those who work for him. you can imagine he's talking about sarah sanders potentially being kicked out of the restaurant over the weekend because she works for the president. do you think marco rubio is right, that ultimately that kind of opposition in that form to the president just helps him? >> i do think it. i heard it just yesterday and the conversation was, you know, the fake news, they don't believe what is being said, and
it does sort of make a pushback against the media or against the outlethat attack the president. with that being said, cnn is a very popular station for republicans in south carolina. we run our ads, we put a lot of our news out there. so what i'll tell you is there is a sundry of ways when the president gets attacked, it does take a republican base that put him in, it gets them even -- even more supportive of him, but what i will tell you about presidential elections, the one thing that is in common with president obama and president trump was, neither base have we seen move yet, poppy. we never saw president obama's base move. for sure we thought we could beat him, and then so we'll see what president trump's base does tomorrow. >> all right, again, big night for south carolina, big night for the president there. knight to ha nice to have you. we'll be right back.
a milestone for women in saudi arabia. on sunday, the kingdom lifted a decades old law banning women from driving. yesterday, over 120,000 women in saudi arabia applied for driver's licenses. you see some of them right there. this is just the beginning, though. their fight for more freedom continues. activists are pushing to get rid of the guardianship law, which bans women from traveling or working without the consent of a male guardian. prince william will soon become the first british royal ever to make an official visit to the state of israel. and the palestinian territories. he's on a five-day tour of the middle east now, he visited jordan yesterday. you see him there. next up, a test of diplomatic
skill, he will meet with israeli prime minister and israeli president tomorrow. after that, he'll meet with the president of the palestinian authority the following day. thank you for being with me today. i'm poppy harlow in new york. i'll see you tomorrow. "at this hour" with kate bolduan begins right now. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. if you woke up this morning wondering what is happening with the 2,000 immigrant children still separated from their parents, and scattered throughout the country, the answer still is we still don't know. despite a plan released from the departments of homeland security and health and human services, the 2,000 kids still spent the weekend away from their families and in detention centers, and the president now has got another policy in mind with a tweet. we must immediately with no judges, he writes, or court cases, he writes, bring them back from where