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rescue crews are searching for a missing youth soccer team and their coach. they're believed to be trapped in a cave in the northern part of the country. they believe the team climbed through the cave and rising waters trapped them inside. the 12 teenagers have been missing since saturday afternoon. that's it for me, thanks for watching, the news continues right now. hi, you're watching cnn on this monday afternoon. i'm brooke baldwin. we have new video from inside the tents in texas. this is video just released by the government. being released as hundreds of parents are still waiting to be reunited with their children.
the president is suggesting those same people should be denied the right to due process. part of what the president tweeted. we cannot allow all of these people to invade our country. when someone comes in we must immediately with no judges or court cases, bring them back in where they came. the new york times is adding to them. the president has expressed regret for signing his executive order which ended family separation by detaining parents and kids together. let's start with hour with diane gallagher. diane, i know the kidses in the facility, between the ages of 13 and 17. we're looking at pictures from the white house. the president and first lady welcoming the king and queen of jordan. diane, to you. tell me what you saw. >> brooke this is my third tour
now. i've done a centralized processing center in mccallon. and now this i know people have been referring to it as a tent city. they would prefer it to be called an emergency shelter that they had to create. it kifrntd of looks like -- you're seeing pictures now that were given to us by the government, they wouldn't let usably any cameras or recording devices inside. i want to give you stats of who is in this facility. we have 326 total children there. 23 are separations, kids who are separated from their parents at the border because of that zero tolerance policy. 14 of them are girls. this is overwhelmingly a male facility, as most of them have been that we've seen. it's only been open for 11 or 12 days. in that amount of time, they claim to have reunified 70
children, three of which are kids who were separated at the border, being reunified with their parents. it gives you an idea of what we're looking at here and operating. we did get the unvarnished view that i've received so far from anybody working this facility. the contractor that operates it, bcfs health and human services. the incident commander was frank about his feelings on the separation and zero tolerance policy. he called it -- he says it was a dumb stupid decision that leadership played that should have never happened. he said that his emergency facility was a direct result of the decision to separate family members at theorder under this policy. let me explain why that is. most of the kids here are unaccompanied minors. they were already at shelters somewhere else under hhs or orr, their ability to take care of them there. those kids had to be moved to
this shelter to make room for the younger kids. that's what he means by that. you can see the tents, they have the bathroom facility, it looks similar to the facility in homestead. we see what they want us to see. >> right. and again, these are pictures issued by the government, but at least as you're saying, they're saying, 70 kids reunited is a step in the right direction. diane, thank you so much, on her third tour of one of these facilities, to talk about one of the legalities, we just ran through on the lead. paul callan is with me. let's take a deep dive into what the president was saying. his whole suggestion that anyone who came across the u.s./mexico border immediately should be sent back immediately without due process. that includes everyone, including asylum sao seekers who are covered by the law.
>> yes, they are. >> and we've only seen a temporary suspension of due process rights in the united states during times of war. and president trump is not abraham lincoln and this is not the civil war. people who step on american soil are granted due process rights. they don't have to be u.s. citizens and due process just means that they'll be a fair process to decide whether you're a legitimate refugee, political refugee or not. and that's what it means in this case. >> it's important the phrase due process. he used this back in february, just to point out a tweet on something else, people's lives are being shattered and destroyed by mere allegations. some are true, some are false, some are old, some are new. there's no recovery from someone falsely accused, is there no such thing any longer as due process. separate issue, but same point of law, it's sort of cherry picking where due process works
for you in some cases and shouldn't be used in others. >> the courts have made clear that even conduct by someone who is not here legally, that person is covered bideau process rights, and that's how people in the department of justice interact with those people and treat them as though all of the protections of due process apply. i think the department of justice, that's a founding principle for them. >> doesn't this speak to -- let me add to this, the new york times said people a's lives hav been shattered -- why can't he solve this problem? this is the quote from the times. aids have had to explain to the president why a comprehensive immigration overhaul is beyond the reach of his executive powers. had to explain to him. >> the president has had problems with executive orders in the past. the travel ban being one of the big ones. he doesn't have the right to override the constitution. even by the use of an executive
order many and i think the president in private practice, he was a gut player, he would go with his gut as to how to solve a problem. now he has to deal with a little thing called the u.s. constitution. >> does he not realize that, is it disrespect? ignorance? >> this is a problem that has vexed many administrations. most people understand this is going to be a quite difficult area to wade into and solve quickly with an executive order or new laws. one would expect that you would handle this with understanding that people are going to have strong views about it, is going to be handled step by step. >> he does it, when you look historically, over the last 16 years. bush had trouble in this area, obama had trouble in this area. which is why nobody was issuing an executive order that would blow up the whole system. because what we're seeing today is what happens when you blow up a system that has been used for
the last 16 years. you have to make changes slowly in this area for it to work. >> paul and sayre remark thank you so much on all of that. >> more than 500 immigrant children have been reunited with their families, since being separated from their parents at our southern border. that means more than 2,000 kids are being held away from their moms and dads. in some cases, thousands of miles away. take this case of an undocumented immigrant from el salvador. he was taken into custody in texas about a month ago and separated from his 6-year-old daughter the next day. he hasn't seen his little girl since they were pulled apart. this 26-year-old man has been deported back to el salvador and he has no idea where his daughter is being held or when they will be reunited. here's a portion of this gut-wrenching moment. when he gets this call from his scared and confused and lonely 6-year-old little girl.
but first, this weekend a new low for political discourse in america, sara sanders was kicked out of a restaurant in virginia as this democratic lawmaker calls on supporters to harass trump officials. now, president trump just escalated it by attacking her. also ahead, harley-davidson a company the president once taughted is moving jobs overseas because of president trump's trade war. is this the first domino? and roseanne in a new interview starts to cry, saying she's lost everything since her racist rant that cost her a job. and she didn't stop there. stay with me. you're watching cnn. i'm brook baldwin. to a new home.e paths , could their journey inspire yours? order your kit at ancestrydna.com. no one thought much of itm at all.l people said it just made a mess until exxonmobil scientists put it to the test.
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the division over what's happening at the u.s./mexico border seems to be uniting a new phenomenon. just in the past week, florida attorney general and trump supporter was heck emed outside of a movie theater. >> shame on you. shame on you. shame on you. >> she was first approached before the movie in the ticket line. >> the woman approaches me in the ticket line and starts screaming that i was personally ripping babies out of the arms of mothers. three huge guys came up and started probably an inch from my face screaming at me every word in the book, cursing as loud as they could. a trooper, my trooper came up and my boyfriend and i got our tickets, were headed in, they ran in and circled me, where i could not get in the theater,
they stopped me. >> also over the weekend, sarah sanders was kicked out of a restaurant in virginia, tweeting about the whole thing. and that restaurant owner. she said her actions say far more about her than about me. i always do my best to treat people, including those i disagree with respectfully and will continuing to do so. the restaurant owners told the washington post she explained to sand sanders, the restaurant has certain standards she has to uphold. days before that, both trump adviser steven miller and keers step nilsson were heckled and booed on separate occasions while dining at mexican restaurants in washington. while some of these instances seem spur of the moment. maxine waters is encouraging this public shaming to continue. >> if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a
department store, at a gasoline station. you get out and you tell them they're not welcome any more, anywhere. >> and just in the last couple minutes, the president responded to those comments tweeting, maxine waters an extraordinarily low iq person has become the face of the democratic party, she has just called for harm to supporters of which there are many of the make america great again movement. be careful what you wish for, max. let's start there. michael smerconish is with me. also with the cnn chief legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. i want to start with the president's dweet and we'll work backwards. be careful what you wish for, is that a threat? >> i didn't know of the president's tweet until you brought it to my attention.
let me tell you about a tweet of my own which was a few hours ago. i'm concerned somebody's going to get hurt. i find what maxine waters said to be appalling. you might disagree with these individuals, i certainly do, but they are public servants, and if the shoe were on the other foot, and if someone high ranking in the obama administration had been rejected from a restaurant under similar circumstances, i think many of the people today calling for those actions would have been appalled. and rightfully so. i'm for consistency. also, i want to say what a great hand the president has just been dealt politically. on top of that horrible tweet last week from peter fonda, robert de niro dropping the f bomb, samantha bee with the c word, all it does is create a piling on of elites. >> no, sure, it's working. this is great for the president.
but jeffrey toobin, back on the president's tweet. when we talk about civility on both sides? did he just light a match? >> he's been inflammatory on twitter since before he ran for president. this is how he engages with his opponents, what we have learned is that when you try to match him, it doesn't match very well. taking the low road, whether it's marco rubio talking about the size of his hands or maxine waters encouraging people to be rude to people in restaurants. that has into the been a winning hand for president or candidate trump's opponents. >> let's go back to the weekend, the whole story of sara sanders getting kicked out of this restaurant in virginia.
david axelrod speaks i list opinionp he tweeted saying he was amazed and appalled by the folks on the left. as i'm talking i'm being told that trump is speaking, let's go. >> we're friends. we've known each other for quite a while. you've done an incredible job on the refugees and camps, and taking care of people. i just want to say, while our nations have a very good relationship, we now have a great relationship, the job you do on a humanitarian basis is fantastic, i would like to thank you very much, sir. >> sir, thank you. if i could thank you and the united states for all the support you've given our country. if the rest of the world took a little bit of your humility and grace, we would be in a lot better position. thank you so much for all that
you've done. >> remember he used the word humility with respect to me. i'm happy with that word. it's probably the nicest compliment i've received in a long time. we send a lot of money in a lot of places, people don't do the job you do, so i want to thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you very much 37. >> press, make your way out. the president said thank you. >> let's go, we're leaving. >> no, no. the executive order was great, it was something that i felt we had to do. we want children staying together. the law has been this law for a long period of time. you would understand this better than most, because of the great job you do in your country. there was a false story, fake news in the new york times. i wanted to sign that, in fact, i was staying yesterday, before i read this phony story in the new york times that i was very,
very happy that i signed that. and it also -- it shows -- you know, we're all talking about humanity, whether it's what you're doing in jordan or what we're doing here, the laws are obsolete, the laws are horrible, having to do with the border, both in terms of security and in terms of taking care of people. president obama had a big problem, in fact a lot of the pictures used they thought would be -- i don't know what you folks did, you used pictures from 2014, they were all taken during the obama administration. the bush administration had the same -- they're the same laws, they're a disaster, the laws have to be complaininged. whether it's north korea or so many different things like trade, we're taking care of a lot of problems that should have been taken care of over the years. one of the highest on the list is immigration. we have to change our laws. we have to make them sensible, they came in to see me last week, they said, we'd like to hire 5,000 more judges. 5,000. you ever hear of a thing like
that? judges. well, we're appointing 145 judges here, and every one goes through this extreme vetting process, talk about 5,000. where do you find 5,000 people to be judges. you know what it leads to, it leads to graft, it leads to a lot of other things. we want a system, where when people come in illegally, they have to go out. and a nice simple system that works. you know, mexico holds people for four hours, for five hours, for two hours and they're gone. we have people for four or five, six years and they never leave. so we want to have a great immigration -- what we have is very simple. we want strong borders, and we want no crime. strong borders, we want no crime. the democrats want open borders and they don't care about crime. and they don't care about our military. i care about our military. that's what we want. and that's what we're going to get. we're going to get it sooner than people think, thank you
very much. thank you. >> all right, everyone make their way out. let's go. let's go. >> thank you. >> thank you all very much. >> press -- leave the room. we're going out, thank you. thank you opinion. >> we're doing very well in the middle east. we're doing very well in the middle east. >> we're on our way out. come on, let's go. >> thank you, press. >> when do you want to release the middle east plan? >> i can only say this, his majesty knows we're doing well in the middle east. a lot of progress has been made in the middle east, a lot. it really started with the end of the horrible iran deal, that deal was a disaster, and things are a lot different since we ended that, a lot different. thank you all very much. >> all right, everyone, thank you. we're leaving now. thank you. let's leave the room. >> okay, so let's continue where
we were but dip into the point that really the headline that we heard from the president sitting there with the first family of jordan, the headline was, the president doesn't regret signing that order to stop separation of parents and kids. he kept referring to the phony story in the new york times. trump has complained to aides about why can't he create this over arching executive order to solve the problem? jeff toobin, let me go to you on that, but also, you hit on this a second ago, and the conversation about disrespect and discourse. what's interesting about all of this, despite all the criticism he's been getting, 90% of republicans approve of what the president is doing. >> this is the tribal moment in which we live. i believe that poll is largely taken before this border crisis has fully been absorbed, i'm not sure it's still at 90%, it's got to be very close.
and 90% of the 38% who are republicans give or take. that's a lot of people, but it's not everyone. and the president has geared his presidency almost entirely to his base. to the republican base. and that may succeed in the midterms, that may succeed in getting him re-elected. i was wrong in 2016, but i think to assume that the president is handling this whole thing masterfully because his base is sticking with him, i think that's a questionable assumption and we'll see how that plays out. >> i think to your point on tribalism, what i wanted to get to with -- sarah sanders getting kicked out of that restaurant and liberals all across the board cheering over the weekend. they've laid flowers at this restaurant in virginia, and you have david axelrod's point over the weekend. he was appalled by all of the folks on the left who applauded sanders for getting kicked out
of the restaurant. do you share that same sense of being appalled with how the left was bee laving? >> absolutely. absolutely i do. i'm going to tell you, brooke, i travel a fair amount, doing speaking to groups around the country. just came back last night from california. and this may surprise you. the number one comment that i hear from people who engage me is to say, i'm really not a fan of the president, often times they'll say, i didn't vote for the president much i don't agree with his behavior. but the way in which he's been treated in the media or by the celebrities pushes me to a point where i'm almost sympathetic with him. i cannot tell you how many times i heard that, if was the first thing i thought of when sarah sanders got punted or peter fonda sent out that tweet or de niro or samantha bee's comment about ivanka. to go to his level has blow back.
>> let me respond to that in part. we don't go to the president's level in responding in the news media. we cover the news. that is entirely appropriate. peter fonda, who cares. i mean, it's so ridiculous, some has been celebrity -- >> no -- >> some has been celebrity sends a tweet, and we treat it as its news. we cover the trump administration like journalists, that's entirely appropriate. if some people aren't happy about that, that's too bad, i don't think we should worry that they feel sympathy for the president because we're doing our jobs as journalists. >> there's perception in the -- there's a perception in the country that it has gone too far. i'm not defending it, jeffrey, i'm telling you that it's real and it's out there, and i hear it from telephone callers on my radio program, on a day to day business. they don't defend what he does. but they don't like the way in
which it's been interpreted and covered. it's just an observation. >> glad we're having the conversation, i know, i know, i can see your face. thank you both so much for that. do not miss smerconish saturday mornings 9:00 a.m. eastern here on cnn. next, an iconic american brand, harley-davidson now moving some of its production overseas. this is all connected to president trump's tariff policy. always, he's to shower his generals with praise, but now it seems the president's relationship with some of them has frayed. let's get into that.
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harley-davidson, the classic made in the usa motorcycle now announcing its moving some of its production out of the u.s. the reason, tariffs imposed by the eu and what looks like a looming trade war with the trump administration. i want to take you back to last year, when harley-davidson brought its made in america bikes right to the lawn in in the white house. and president trump touted how his tax cuts would benefit the motorcycle maker. >> we want to make it easier for businesses to create moreobs and more factories in the united states. and you're a great example of that. >> i have with me now, rick barrett, the business reporter with the milwaukee journal cen continual. great to have both of you on. you're there in wisconsin, i'm starting with you. with the production leaving wisconsin, and i think you don't -- no one really has hard numbers on jobs. what do you know, how are people feeling about this? >> well, what we know right now,
is that about 16% of the new motorcycles that harley-davidson sells go to europe. primarily those bikes are built in kansas city and york, pennsylvania. harley-davidson says that production will be moved overseas. >> overseas to places like thailand, brazil, india where harley-davidson doesn't have to deal with these tariffs. this is what harley is saying, they believe if the cost increase is passed on to its dealers and retail customers would have an immediate and lasting detrimental impact. the cost of each bike would rise by $2200 per bike. does that mean the cost per bike to buy goes up? >> that's the first thought. they disclosed that they will not be passing the cost along to consumers. they are absorbing the cost, which is why you see the stock
tanking today, down 7%, it's going to be affecting their bottom line. >> you were saying something interesting about how harley-davidson is one of those few companies who's been to the white house. >> correct. >> not once, but twice. >> exactly. >> why is that significant? >> because trump has been parading harley-davidson executives, engineers, bikers themselves as a relic of, this is what american made looks like, and i think this is a huge testament to the fact that his policy has -- his tax policy is in direct contrast to these new tariffs that are being imposed and it has an unintended consequence of companies that want to manufacture in the u.s., they are being forced out of the country. and executives delineated that saying, this is not our desired outcome, and? is not the path we wanted to pursue. we are a business, and we need to act according to our shareholders. >> i'm wondering back in wisconsin, rick, we all know who's from jaynesville,
wisconsin, the house speaker in the u.s. house of representatives, paul ryan, the little bit i've seen from him, he's coming out against this. >> that's right. he hasn't been in favor of the tariffs. but the european union has stead specifically that harley-davidson was targeted for political reasons. it's a high profile company for them, partly because of speaker ryan. >> and let's keep in mind, kentucky bourbon, mitch mcconnell, orange juice, marco rubio in florida. politics are personal. and at the end of the day, it's the same thing with the chinese tariffs that were being implemented. they are targeting trump's supporters, trump's base. all the states that were in favor of trump to begin with. there's no way to parcel this out and not see it clearly. >> let's remember back to 2016. you know how much trump won wisconsin by? less than 1 percentage point. we'll see how this factors in
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people i've ever worked with. >> general h.r. mcmaster. a man of tremendous talent. and tremendous experience. >> secretary mattis has devoted his life to serving his country. he's a man of honor, a man of devotion. and a man of total action. >> some of those generals lasted. mattis, kelly, others didn't, flynn. mcmaster, let me bring in rear admiral kirby. >> on these generals, there are now these reports that the pentagon is being kept in the dark about major decisions like iran and north korea. how problematic is that? >> very problematic. >> it's one thing for the president to make a snap decision, but when it regards national security it has major implications, you never want your defense secretary to be
surprised about a major national security decision that you're going to make that affects the choices he has to make around the world. i've advised two secretaries of defense, they have to make tough choices and compromises where they're going to put resources versus where they're going to take those resources from. he absolutely can but national security at risk. >> that's a huge issue, obviously? his relationship with the secretary of defense seems to be so far so good. i know you have exclusive reporting indicating there is no time line on talks with north korea. what do you know? >> that's a perfect example of what we're talking about here, the president has been relying on secretary of state mike pompeo on this north korea thing, and in fact made an agreement with kim jong-un to halt military exercises in korea, to defense secretary mattis knew it could be on the table. not that that was going to be an
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we'll have to see if kim jong-un is ready to make good on tho those -- it depends on whether the north koreans are going to be taking steps. >> i'm so glad you are able to get some time with the secretary. admiral kirby. good to see you. he has some regrets with a sketch he did with then candidate donald trump. and the president fights back. also, roseanne gets emotional in this new interview involving her racist tweet and her firing. so small no one thought much of it at all. people said it just made a mess until exxonmobil scientists put it to the test. they thought someday it could become fuel
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actress roseanne barr offering up a tearful apology for her racist tweet about valley jarrett. these comments came during a pod cast, a day after abc cancelled her show. she told a spiritual adviser she's turning herself into a hate magnet. >> it didn't mean what they thought it meant. that's what's so painful. i have to face that -- this hurt people. i horribly regret -- are you kidding, i lost everything. i said to god, i am willing to
accept whatever consequences this brings, because i know i'm wrong. i'm willing to accept the consequences. and i do, and i have. >> chris cillizza, what did you make of her tears and her interview? >> well, i think you make an important point that gets lost a little bit. this interview came the day after she was fired by abc. we're just getting the audio now. but this was a raw moment for her, she had just lost a job and a very well paying job. it seems like a heartfelt apology, the one note i will make on it, this was not the first time on twitter that roseanne barr had made racist or xenophobic comments. this is not a one off. it doesn't make it okay if it's a one off, but there's a pattern of this behavior. i'm not here to judge anyone for making twitter -- off color
twitter commentary. i've never gone that far. i understand it's a tough medium. but history suggests this wasn't a one off. >> so under the regret category. and, of course, we all remember the bit on the tonight show. you know, 2016, jimmy fallon bring brings the whole thing about 23ru78d's hair. the backlash jimmy got hit him pretty hard. >> this is fascinating. everybody remembers that video, fallin came under a lot of criticism. jimmy kimmel, doing a lot more political commentary, and a lot more aggressively anti-trump territory, fallin not. he talked about it on a pod cast with the hollywood reporter recently. let's play a little bit of that and come back and talk about it many. >> it was definitely a down time. it's tough for moral for people -- 300 people that work
here, people talking that bad about -- ganging up on you, really gang mentality. >> it was insane. people you wouldn't expect. >> and you're a sensitive guy. all right, we get, i heard you, you made me feel bad. now what? are you happy? i'm depressed. i did not do it to normalize him or say i believe in his political beliefs or any of that stuff. i don't do that with any guest. with anyone. he was already the candidate. >> so he was already the candidate. of course donald trump wasn't really critiquing him. jimmy fallon responds to that, i think we have that, i'll be making a donation, this is a group that helps do education
research around immigrant communities in his name. so all's well that ends well? a group that does good work is getting a donation from jimmy fallon, but look. i do think both of these stories illustrate when you are in the center of that spotlight now more than ever, it is absolutely crushing. and we see both personal sides of roseanne barr and jimmy fallon. they're real people who -- at least in roseanne's case, made a real mistake here. you feel the blow back now more than ever. >> one more nor you. i don't know what it says when i read this story and i thought, this is something you would talk about. but the -- sleaze okay, but senator claire mccaskill is having this lunch recently. i guess she starts choking, she's all right. senator joe manchin comes up
behind her, heimlich, breaks her rib. what happened? >> this is my underrated crazy story i can't believe we're not talking about until today. >> totally. >> this is last thursday. senate democrats have a weekly lunch. they get together, they talk about policy, where they're going politically. claire mccaskill starts choking. margin comes over and gives her the heimlich, unknowingly at the time, breaks a rib. so claire mccaskill is at an event later in the day, i'm not going to be hugging anyone, i just injured my rib. this is a crazy story. but yes, this is actually in the all's well that ends well category. >> yeah. on a positive >> i'm really grateful to joe, a little bit of a sore rib for a couple weeks is no big deal. >> that's not how i would have reacted to a broken rib. >> chris cillizza, thank you so
top of the hour, you're watching cnn, i'm brooke bald western. thank you for being with me. the president is having regrets about signing his executive order on immigration. president trump says he's happy many. >> i wanted to sign that. in fact i was saying yesterday, before i read this phony story in the new york times that i was very, very happy that i signed that. >> now, just as the pentagon is preparing not just one, but two military bases to temporarily house those crossing the border immediately. he's suggesting those same people should be denied the right to due process. here's the president's tweet. we cannot allow all of these people to invade our country. we must immediately with n