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blocking it. jared needs to take those comments and turn it back on his father-in-law and turn it back to jeff sessions. this they were willing to support more comprehensive criminal justice reform, it would move through the united states congress. >> don't miss it. and anderson starts now. good evening, thanks for joining us, i am john berman. breaking news. a decision that would send america for generations coming soon. president trump said he will announce his pick to replace justice anthony kennedy monday july 9. narrowed his list down to five candidates including two women. he will interview some of those candidates this weekend at his
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new jersey golf course and he claims he will not ask about abortion. a key subject where anthony kennedy was the decisive vote. >> are you looking for somebody who would overturn roe v wade? >> well, you know, it is a great group of intellectual talent. i am not going to ask them that question. but it is a group of highly talented and brilliant mostly conservative judges. >> what about lgbt rights? >> i have known him over the years and he is a terrific man and i thought the way he approached what he did, what he did yesterday was very he will began the and ve -- elegant and beautiful. and honored that he did it
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during my term. i won't be discussing that. >> our chief white house correspondent jim acosta joining us now. >> reporter: he did say on air force one that he narrowed it down to five people but he might talk to six or seven people and a couple might come to new jersey this weekend. we do know, and these are sources talking to my colleague, there are a couple of people on this list who are being strongly considered at this point. two of them is bret kavanaugh. amy barrette.
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one thing that we should no about all of these candidates is they are in their late 40s and early 50s. so checking boxes for this president who has said during the campaign, he said on air force one he doesn't want to ask them about this. keep in mind, they are very mindful of the fact they want a justice and the president said in the campaign, he wants justices that will overturn roe v wade and this selection process may bring the country closer to a generation that it will overturn that decision. >> i believe it will. jim, a wide ranging press availability, what else did they talk about. >> reporter: renewed conversation that john kelly is
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on his way out. coming up on one year. he was not very conclusive on this question when he was asked about it. >> are you looking for a new chief of staff? >> no. we are getting along very well. at some point, things happen. but i will tell you -- you see that -- a very good relationship. a wonderful man. john kelly, four star. wonderful man. and don't forget, this is a big change for him. this is, you know, this isn't an easy change for him. >> how long do you think he will stick around? >> i don't know. we have achieved a lot. i like him and i respect him. >> reporter: he was also asked about hope hicks. staffer who left a few months ago during the rob porter scandal. a report that hope hicks may be
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coming back to the white house in some regard. the president was asked about that. he said i have heard little things about that. he was asked about referring to the press as the enemy of the people. and he did say, and this is in the aftermath of what happened in annapolis. he did not close the door on using those slurs for reporters, enemy of the people and fake news. he seeminged seemed open to the possibility that he may go back to that name calling. >> much more to talk about on the supreme court. david, the news tonight is the president wants to do this quickly. two of them women. how do you thing this will
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affect the senate? >> if he is going to do it entirely on a party line vote, they can't -- may join to vote for the president's nominee here as well. strictly party line, he needs every single republican that currently serves in the senate. >> susan collins. they are in theory pro-choice. where are they tonight? >> so those would be the first two that you go to right away. and they are with open minds tonight. see who the president puts forward. they are clearly going to have one-on-one meetings. the nominee is going to do courtesy calls with many of the key senators.
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and i would add two other republicans that we should watch closely. jeff flake of arizona. bob corker of tennessee. they both are committed conservatives, especially on judges. so i'm not sure there will be big surprise from them, but worth watching. >> again, this list has been narrowed down to five. we don't know on it. one of the names has been mentioned a lot is amy barret, she did receive some democratic votes. it would be hard for a democrat who voted for her a few months ago to turn around and vote no this time. >> correct, but not unprecedented. say the supreme court, i take different things into consideration. it is the highest court in the
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land and one of the judges i believe that voted for her to the seventh circuit was tim kane. he is on the ballot in virginia this year. he wants a revved up democratic base to help him in november. i'm not sure in that bluish state he would be willing to vote yes. that nominate would put him in a bind. >> tim kane is not even among the names. watch them very, very closely. david chalian, thank you for being with us. here, maggie haberman, and jeffrey toobin. the president says he is down to a list of five. two women on the list. we don't know for sure who they
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are. you get the names of the commonly ones we have seen is amy coney barrette and jo larson. >> both of them clerked for antony scalia. amy coney barrette, she was just confirmed to the seventh court of appeal. she had a contentious confirmation process where she was challenged by senator feinstein in her involvement with catholic legal organizations. senator feinstein had the worse
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of that. very little public record but both are known to be very conservative. both members of the federal society beyond that, just down the line conservative nominees. >> maggie, you never stop reporting. and you are still doing reporting sitting here. in your hearing that the president wants a judge or justice who went to harvard or yale, but neither of them went to harvard or yale. >> correct. that would apply to bret kavanaugh. you and i spoke about this early this morning that trump is paranoid when it comes to the bush family.
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and that is not a selling point. he is not in the question of roe v wade, not seen as the most conservative in gop circles. he could be a little easier to get through. it was interesting to me too, what the president said on the plane, remember, he likes misdirecting and suggesting he is going to go in a certain direction and not do that. and he loves certain moments when he has a pick in hand. to be clear, every president likes to have this pick, this president is public about it. that did not indicate that he is actually looking at those people, as he will say, we will see what happens. >> and you say this because you have been following closely. >> it was a bit of a flag or could be a head fake. it is not something that i take at face value. >> jeffrey, the president also said he is not going to ask his
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potential nominees about roe v wade, but to me this feels like a moot point because the list he has been drawing from has been drafted by the federalist society with a list of people who they know want to overturn roe v wade, correct? >> absolutely correct. lennard leo this is at the core of his beliefs and the beliefs of the federalist society that roe v wade is a blot on american law and the issue of abortion should be returned to the state. at this point in the process, it is in the interest of the president and his allies to be somewhat vague about the question of roe v wade and say
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people have open minds, but don't kid yourself. the whole point of this nomination process is to pick someone who will not be anthony kennedy. who will not vote to uphold roe v wade and i don't have the slightest doubt that any of the people on the list of 25 will vote ultimately overturn row v wade. >> he don't have to ask. if you chart his evolution on abortion, it is notable. at one point he said he is very pro-choice. but crystal clear that he is fully committed at least in picking a judge who he knows will overturn roe v wade. >> it is hard to know exactly where he lands. he might say one thing to get the nomination through and expect a judge, a justice of the court is going to abolish roe v
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wade. no reason he has shaken on that? >> taken no actions to suggest otherwise. >> and if you look -- >> quickly. >> if you look at his evangelical support throughout his presidency, it is largely because of judges and the fact that his judges have skewed the conservative line. >> the president was asked if he is revaulting the response. managed to get through to the president of the united states on air force one. we are looking into it ahead. ben rheumatoid arthritis.
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to the families of the victims, there are no words to express our sorrow for your loss. horrible, horrible event. horrible thing happened. and you're suffering, we pledge our eternal support. >> i think the whole country shares in that sentiment. you notice the president said the journalist should be free of being violently attacked. >> now, you know we have a lot of fake news back there. look at all those fake newsers back that. the enemy of the people, i call
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them. >> that was monday. and we are not suggesting that the president isn't sincere when he says journalist shouldn't be violently attacked. >> i have a lot of respect for the press. some of the greatest people i know are reporters and people in the media >> i have a lot of respect for the press. keeping them honest, the president has been disrespecting journalist for years. he may think the tv hosts at a certain network are some of the greatest people he knows. what about reporters doing actual reporting. over and over he has attacked the free press. >> those people, they are the worse. those dishonest people. >> absolute dishonest, absolute scum. it is time to expose the crooked media deception.
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>> i've never seen more dishonest people. >> they are bad people. and i don't think they like our country. >> the media deserves a big fat failing grade. >> they are the -- some of them are lying disgusting people, it is true. >> joining me now, scott jennings and bakari sellers. scott, i have been reading your tweets. and i thank you for your support. do you understand where the president is on this. he has called the president the enemy of the people. are you comfortable with that? >> no. i don't like that phrase. i wish the president wouldn't use it. i think it is over the line. i do think it is time for the president and other politicians to joust with the media. we fuss and fight and jostle. it is possible to do that.
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without going over the line. my hope is we all understanding these people are people too. some have themselves going over the line in criticizing the president. calling them the enemy of the people is not right. the enemy is out there. we are all in this together. press, politicians, people like us, bakari and me should remember that. >> bakari, do you feel as if the president went far enough today in his statement. >> first and foremost, we need to be clear. i cannot blame the president for what happened in annapolis. those clips that you played, it is his tenor, his rhetoric.
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avery willks a reporter shared on twitter a sentimental text message from his mother. and what you realize is the humanity, the dignity, reporters, like yourself, john, you are husband, sons, brothers. my hat goes out to reporters all over the world who are doing what they do best to have a free and just society. >> do you think it puts the people in that professional in danger? >> i don't know. the president's rhetoric in some cases have been fairly in line with other politicians do. and in some cases gone over the line. the journalist are often as exposed as anybody even though they are being viewed in the same way that we view
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politicians. we have started to look at journalist in our partisan vision. we protect the politicians in many cases not in all, but in some. and like in maryland, these journalists are not protected and they are exposed and i would say if ever you are trying to decide how far to go, dial it back one or two notches because you can always go under the line, and when you go over the line it is hard to take it back. >> i think what you are saying is absolutely true. no one gets hurt by dialing it back a little bit here. bakari, you are a politician, you know how this stuff works. the president thinks this works for him.
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any reason to believe he will change his approach. >> no, because it has worked for him. this is beyond that. and i think people close to him, need to tell him that his rhetoric, the violent rhetoric, punch him in the face, drag him out, is beyond the pale for the president of the united states. scott and i receive more death threats that you can image. two months ago, i had to send something to security because people wanted to me and my family harm. what happened yesterday in annapolis could happen to anybody. the president who has the largest bully pit in the country i hope he recognized it. >> i do appreciate you being with us tonight.
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another look at the vigil happening in annapolis, maryland. tonight, we know their names
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gerald fischman. rebecca smith was a sales assistant 34-years old. wendi winters was an editor, columnist. the editorial page is then lists their names. again, robert hiaasen whose wife joins me right now. i'm sorry. i can't imagine your loss. since last night i have been reading about your husband and he seems like he would be the best guy in the world to be friends with. tell me about him. >> without a doubt.
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rob hiaasen was my best friend and he was that for a handful of others. he and i liked to say, you don't need a million friends just really good ones. always there for people. a confidant and someone ready with the wry little joke at just the right time. typically, and ironically at a time like this when people were hurting over something and he understood the need that eventually you needed that break. a fine line between tragedy and comedy and he knew. he was a great best friend if i can say that. >> you can absolutely say that. big rob i heard his brother calling him that this morning and we can see that by these
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pictures, he was big rob. >> yeah, 6'5" and it is a nickname that came about when our children were in high school. they are in their 20s now and a good friend named zoe was over with the crew and she dubbed him big rob and it stuck. it worked in his family. he was always immensely proud of his brother which is an interesting thing to address. he would encounter, oh, it must be tough to be carl hiaasen's big brother. >> also, the mentor to so many young people who wanted to be part of journalism. tell me about that. >> yes, yes. and you know, rob was a natural
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observer and a natural human in that he got humanity, he realized this big world is fouled up and full of all kinds of mayhem and pressure. and you can't be a journalist and not see that. understood the key to success of being a human being. to remember people's feelings. look for the human being behind the story. there was a time we both worked for the "palm beach post." it was not a natural fix and he would call, rob, what about the numbers, what about the tax
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rate. >> he would be caring about the humanity. >> yeah. and that is where he began the journey to feature writing and the love of narrative writing. >> talk to me, i understand he is a big james taylor fan and he got a chance to interview him. >> i could go on. >> and he was rendered nearly speechless. >> he had moved to raleigh, north carolina. and within a year's time we were engaged and got married. great friend, went to hear bob taylor. and i can't tell you how many times he saw them.
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i know it is approaching 20. i am more of a punk rock fan, so it was interesting this marriage in that respect. as bob phillips tells it and rob tells it as well, i got up there, and i didn't know what to say. i was speechless. there was that humility, some journalists make mistake, all journalist do, all human beings do. it is those of us who are adults in the world, who admit mistakes and try to correct them. my husband was an adult and he was not a bad person and he was a professional. >> oh not a bad person at all. >> and this is a loss to me, to my children, to my family extended and to this community.
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more breaking news tonight along with the disclosure about his next supreme court pick, president trump also talked about up coming summit with vladimir putin. the president said he will discuss ukraine, syria, and election meddling. president trump blamed president obama not vladimir putin for russia's annexation of crimea. >> don't forget, president obama
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gave up crimea, that was totally given up. president obama gave it up. you would have said it about me. president obama allowed that to happen which is very unfortunate. >> we are going to talk about ukraine, we're going to talk about syria. we'll be talking about elections. we don't want anybody tampering with elections. maybe we talk about saving billions of dollars on weapons and maybe we don't. >> what does that mean? >> where we are building a force the likes of which nobody has seen before. i got it approved and perhaps, the world can deescalate between china, russia and ourselves being the three primaries.
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>> joining me to discuss max boot and steve hall. >> max, vladimir putin took crimea, and occupied crimea and happened during the obama administration. and now president trump's saying president obama gave up crimea. >> he never blames putin, instead he blames obama. but it is perverse to put the blame on obama instead of the actual perpetrator of the war crime vladimir putin. >> they kept asking yes, but vladimir putin did this, he did this. and president trump refused to say it. kept on blaming president obama and steve, to you, what do you
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think president obama thinks when he hears that. >> the president is now willing to say, okay, we are going to talk about crimea. now that is a negotiatable point. you don't go back and say what went wrong with your predecessors. you go in and try to do your job and in this particular case, before we go further and talk about any of the things you want to talk about vlad, we need to, that russia has perpetrated upon the world. >> as far as election meddling, max, president trump did say he does believe election meddling should come up in this discussion. just this week he also said russia continues to say they had
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nothing to do with meddling in our election. is it clear what that discussion would look like? >> i find it hard to believe that trump is going to press putin on election meddling when as you noted he hasn't acknowledged. what we are seeing in the last few days is evidence that vladimir putin's influence is the best money he has ever spent. donald trump is basically delivering a dream list agenda for vladimir putin. >> and the "washington post" is reporting, and now the pentagon is doing studies to see if that is it. that is exactly what vladimir putin wants. he would love those troops gone. >> an amazing christmas in july for putin.
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u.s. allies have good cause to be worried about that. donald trump made a huge concession to kim jong-un without getting anything in return. >> steve, president trump did say one of the things he does want to talk to vladimir putin about is about peace. now you were stationed in russia for a long time, does vladimir putin care about peace? >> not in and of itself, no. because the idea that peace is a great thing and all of that stuff is a solidly western idea. i couldn't agree with max more on bringing up the allies thing. if you want to have peace, vis-a-vis russia, you need to talk about containing russia. not the time to talk about engaging russia which is what apparently the president is interested in doing. what we need to be doing and what the president will be spending more time on instead of giving putin christmas in july,
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saying we need to be on the same page on this. all of the things that russia is doing that are completely unacceptable on the international realm and yet the president is going to talk to him about that. i would rather see the president talking to our allies and saying how are we going to control this. >> thanks so much for being with us. the language that the president used today, it is notable, specific and exactly what vladimir putin would like to here. thanks very much, gentlemen. >> so it sounds like a sketch from an old monty python show. in a conversation ensues. that's next. nobody does it better. he also loves swiping picnic baskets. hee, hee, hee yoooogiiiiiii!! but when it comes to mortgages,
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this one. a new york city comedian gets a call back from the president of the united states onboard air force one after pretending to be a dynamicic senator from new jersey and has a conversation. this actually happened. now you decide if it makes you laugh or makes you feel safe. this is new jersey exactic senator bob menendez no real pal of the president out from under the umbrella of a federal corruption case because of a mistrial. this is a comedian who kaulz him stuttering john, john mel ends. somehow as the president was on his way back earlier this week, the comedian convinced the white house switch board he was the real new jersey senator and he got a call from the president. they talked about the senator's rhiannon unt uncore with the federal justice system and politics. here part of exchange. >> you and i have a good relationship with the party. you have a good relationship with the party. i think we can do a real immigration bill. we have to have stewart at the
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border. we have to have it. i mean, look, you got 60% of the country says they have to have security at the border. that's a good for the democrats too bob. it's not like it's good for you or for me it's good for both of us. >> you know. >> no, i understand that. no but. >> go ahead. >> but but i have -- i have to -- i have to get i have to look into my -- i have to look my meme as well understand. >> i agree. i agree. >> so the comedian says he could barely believe it worked. i got on the phone with trump and trump is like bob i want to congratulate you. i didn't even know that senator menendez was any really legal problems. if they screened me and asked
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what party affiliation snorp menendez or what state he represented. i would have been- i would have been stumped because i had no idea anything about senator menendez. >> so no comment yet from the president himself. but think about the security implications of someone being able to prank call the president essentially on air force 1. time to check in with chris cuomo to see what he is working on at cuomo primetime i claim to be joe collect o. >> thank you for that. i will be tom brady because of this action. we are talking about the phone call tonight. because it's so bizarre for the president of the united states to be congratulating is it senator menendez for beating his case his corruption case. we'll look at that and but take on a fascination within the democratic party, the calls to end i.c.e. and in the second hour tonight we fill in for don and do an entire hour special on the implication of judges in the trump administration.
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reduce the prisons population while making the population safe. >> what's the most urgent problem facing the criminal justice now. >> i think everybody knows that it's better honestly to be poor -- no it's better to be rich and guilty than poor and innocent. in other words, who winds up in prison, has more to do with how much money you have, what neighborhood you are from, color of your skin, stuff that has nothing to do with the justice system. and that's the big cancer at the hart of this. >> that's a fact. >> that's a fact. i went to jail fyale for law i more drugs on the karpz of the ivy league school than the housing project. but the cops drove past yale to go to the housing project for fewer drugs than were on yale. the section biggest problem is you have the incredibly long sentences for non-violent drug offenses. if you just were to deal with
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the drug problem as a health issue like most countries. if you are adistricted that shouldn't be a criminal offense. if your kid is on drugs you don't say i'm giving you 27 years in prison. that will make it better. but we do that to poor folk's kids. almost only to poor folk's kids. when you combine the fact that you have to have a lot of money when you get in trouble to get out of trouble no matter the underlying facts and the fact that the penalties for drug offenses are so long that's why you have so many people behind bars. >> you've been working with republicans on this and there is a lot of bipartisan support. yet it doesn't seem like much progress has been made. >> well, you know, we had momentum for a good little while, until the recent election, because republicans and democrats actually agree on this stuff. you know, newt ginrich and i worked on this. and newt said if you want to talk about a failed government brockry. talk about the prison system.
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we spend tons of money and you know people and leave and aren't necessarily better than when he went in. >> one of the people in the film an inmate turned activists said if most americans knew what happened in prison with tax dollars people would demand change. >> absolutely. in fact, sometimes i take people into prisons. nobody comes out saying, hey, this is a great idea, what's happening here is wonderful. i could go in here and come out a better person. no. in fact, we created almost an incarceration industry where private companies make a ton of money giving people very bad food, where private companies actually trade on the stock exchange, the more prisons they build and fill, the more money this they get. you have a profit motive now infecting the criminal justice to me. that's not in the discussion. that's not in anybody's laws. but it's a fact. >> american jail look forward to it thanks.
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>> thank you. >> join that sunday night at 7:00 p.m. eastern with the van ens jones show. speaking with tim scott about president trump's immigration policy. that's followed by the cnn film american jail at 8:00 p.m. thanks for watching 360 tonight. have a great weekend. time to hand it over to chris cuomo, cuomo primetime. starts now. >> thank you jb have a good weekend. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to primetime. have the democrats found the first rallying and radical cry? abolish i.c.e. what was dismissed as the whim of a bernie ac olate and upstart is echoed by big city mayors and a he sitting senator. you saw kirsten on gillibrand say i.c.e. has to go. but others aren't sure that's the way to go. we have a democrat who has become the face of i.c.e. resistance here ton. the mayor who warned of an a