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a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. it is 11:00 p.m. on the east coast. many republicans attacked on a per sewn fa case they claimed as being undermining the trump administration finally got a chance to speak publicly today. peter strzok sat through a
meeting today. he anned texted about -- even remarks about his marriage. many republicans posing the question sounded a lot like president trump's twitter feed, portraying the deputy of justice as marginalized and untrustworthy. lest member, the doj and fbi are headed up by people president trump appointed and confirmed by a republican majority congress. and i want to be clear, what peter strzok did was wrong. if republicans believe that people's personal political views render them incapable of doing their jobs, how then can they affectively do their jobs? i want to bring in cnn crime and justice reporter simone. julia cyan and republican strike thattist, rick wilson. thank you all for joining us. i think that's a very good question, if you see people can't do their jobs because they
have political beliefs, hello, what about you guys. let's take a listen to this. >> it is so frustrating, answer the question. if you'll allow him to i'm sure he will. >> he has never answered the question. >> starting with the political death penalty and impeachment is not the logical way a neutral dis -- >> we're demanding equal -- >> we're not testifying. >> do you believe in any way that your personal text done on federal property have in any way tarnished the reputation of the fbi. >> with you say you never crossed that viable line when you men to say was except for 50,000 times. except for hundreds of times of day where i went back and forth enforcing my person opinion about f'ing trump, stopping trump on official fbi phones on official fbi time. >> when i see you looking there with a smirk, how many times did you look so anyone into your
wife's eye and lie to her about -- >> mr. chairman, that's outrageous. >> wow. nonstop attacks well into the night. the thing is strzok, he already testified to this economy behind closed doors, shimon. all these fireworks were they for show? >> absolutely, don. when you look at the way the republicans sort of handled this, how they continuously attacked him. trying to pick out whether or not he was biased, therefore against the president, somehow they swayed how he handled this investigation. whether you think opinion who peter strzok is, what he have men to the fbi for so many years, he was a leader counter intelligence investigator, the guy who was tracking the spies in the u.s., whether runner, chinese, iranian spies, he spends his life doing this. when you think opinion how they went after him, how they
assaulted him, the character assassination here of a man who have spent all this time investigating spies, and certainly the russians. in the eyes of the russians they have spent their life trying to fine dirt on fbi agents and on politicians in this country. then you have members of congress who put this guy before the public for ten hours and continuously attacked him. it truly is, don. i think you said this earlier tonight it was a really big win for russians. here you have them taking the man who have been investigating them for so many years, before the public being attacked, his wife mentioned. all these things continued on and on today. when you talk to people who know him, i think he wanted this moment, he wanted to explain himself asby as he could, although he was cut off obviously many times. he did see this as an opportunity to give his say, to say as much as he can. and i suspect this is not the
last time that we will hear from peter strzok. >> well, in the beginning. when he started i don't think they liked him, so they stopped him from real responding. i'm looking at the piece you have rick wilson. here's what you write, you write in part, you said strzok was supposed to be a key in the imaginary conspiracy that trump's congressional lackeys and media fans tried to write as history. the ideal his text messages poisoned the mueller investigation is a pillar of defense. this morning they were foing for a quick kill. they needed strzok to fail and wilt. they needed their grand standings, mock outrage to leave strzok shaking and begging for mercy. strzok had none of it. you say this badly backfired on republicans. why did you do you say that? >> they looked like they were ranting, they looked like they were flailing. and peter strzok answered their
questions. he not himself, what i call the mccarthy moment. the fame moment where judge welch said to mccarthy, have you no shame. he got that moment a couple of times today. one in terms of defense of himself and the fbi and safe guards inside the fbi. and the second moment where he basically called this out and talked about the bigger picture here, which was the person who loves this is vladimir putin. the engineer of all this chaos is vladimir putin. where's he connected to? was he connected to hillary clinton's campaign, no. he was connected to donald trump's campaign. the investigation of trump's campaign is because keshl sources were telling them that donald trump was as deep with the russians. this was a moment he had today where they really expected him to break. this afternoon they threw everything else at him. and gohmert's moment in the sun this afternoon was a last-ditch effort for them to make him lose
his exposucomposure and have an emotional moment where he yelled, screw you, at the panel. and he didn't take the bait. i think the performs by the members -- >> how'd you feel about your party, the way they acted today? >> well, it was a shame less clown show. and it diminished all of them. they need to also -- few of those members need to be cautious about how they want to fete into talking about infidelity. >> very good point. i'm sure a lot of people talking about that today considering. and we don't need to say anymore. juliet, this is how he defended himself for sending anti-trump messages. watch this. >> sir, i think he's important whether you look at those texts that you understand the context in which they were made and the thing that were going on across america. in terms of the text that we will stop it, you need to
understand that that was written late at night off the cuff and it was response to a series of events that included then candidate trump insulting the immigrant family of a fallen war hee report. in my presumption, based on that horrible disgusting behavior, that the american population would not elect somebody demonstrating that behavior to be president of the united states. it was in no way un equivocalically any suggest that me, the fbi would take any action whatsoever to improperly impact the electoral process for any candidate. so, i take great offense and i take great disagreement to your assertion of what that was or wasn't. >> he fully admits that he is not a fan of donald trump. and by the seam of what heb, a lot of people were outraged by the moment he was talking about. there's no evidence that those feelings impacted his work. do the optics still matter here?
>> i think he -- i thought this was such an amazing moment, because he also wrapped himself in the process with how the fbi works. the idea that peter strzok is sitting lone in a room trying to frame donald trump is an insuddenly to the fbi. and he kind of through it back at congress. peter strzok is an fbi agent right now. what we have to remember is that the fbi allowed one of its agents to perform as he did today, to almost get a contempt citing at the beginning, they were threatening that, in order to protect an ongoing investigation into the president of the united states. that is hardball. in the end it was a bad day for trump. whatever we say about peter strzok in the e-mails, texts, who cares. russia still meddled in the investigation.
at least five of donald trump's campaign members have pled guilty and manafort on the same day, is, you know showing up on a -- as -- in a picture, because he's in jail right now. so, i think you have to remember, in the end the story didn't change and that's bad for trump. >> uh-huh. considering what he said before, because shimon, we've established he was spoken to these folks before behind closed doors. is that the context of those texts, consistent with what he has said about him in the past? >> yeah, certainly his testimony appears to be consistent. he was prepared, don, you could see that today. he was ready to fight back. opportunities when he could fight back he would fight back. i don't think he was holding back today. you could see he was frustrated at times, peter strzok because he couldn't say more. there was a lot of discussion at
the fbi today. throughout all this, and from everything we know, his testimony behind closed doors and what he said today have been fairly consistent, certainly about the tech messages, he's owned up to it. remember he was also interviewed by the inspector general who found there was no bias. certain a lot of issues and really a black eye for fbi here. criminal ca chris ray, the fbi director says this is been extremely embarrassing for the agency to have had this happened. they want to move past this. peter strzok wants to move past this. there's still questions that need to be answered going forward. i think that's going to continue on and these investigations are going to continue. we'll see more testimony perhaps from lisa page here also. >> we'll be watch requesting cover it. when we come back the fire hearing on capitol hill comes days before donald trump's face-to-face meeting with putin.
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president downplaying his upcoming summit, vladimir putin saying it will be a loose meeting. let's discuss, cnn global affairs susan glasser is here. and cnn national security analyst, these hasteve hall. retired chief of russian operations. susan, he's the president, what do you have to say about his upcoming meeting with vladimir putin, watch this. >> meeting with president putin on monday. i think we go into that meeting not looking for so much. we want to fine out about syria, we will of course ask the favorite question about meddling. i will be asking that question again. he may deny it. all i can do is say, did you, and don't do it again. >> of course the big question is, why is president trump so
aggressive c aggressive with so many people, and why is he so passive when it comes to putin? >> we're not going to answer that tonight, but it is the right question to be asking. you're so right to spotlight this loose meeting statement president trump made today. he spend the last several months pursuing a meeting with vladimir putin, even against the advice and caution of his aids. never mind the insane political optics meeting with putin at a time when there remained this shadow cast over his election, result of the ongoing mueller investigation. so president trump has pursued this summit meeting. my question is, why? what is it they're going to discuss? there's no formal agenda for this meeting. there's no substantive proposals on either side. the president confirmed it in this press conference. there's a lot they could be discussing from arm's control,
to russian in ukraine. >> how with are we going to kno there's not going to be anyone there? >> right. i'm told this will b a slightly -- and the ambassador of moscow, john huntsman. there's little sense that we'll know what's going on directly between putin and trump or why year one of them wanted to have a sum. trump said today, well, this may be the easiest meeting of all. >> yeah, he has said that before. it's interesting, if he's going to have that expand meeting like you said, why the meeting for just them. steve, i think that's a real good question. >> don, first of all i've got to echo everything that susan said. this whole idea about meeting individually with vladimir putin, not a good idea, just
common sense. i wouldn't advise you or anybody to sit down personally and private with vladimir putin, it doesn't end well. it's just not a good idea. the bigger political question is, why hasn't somebody told trump, if you meet with him alone it's going to exacerbate the issue with your allies of the united states and every where. it leads the impression, there's some sort of secret agenda. everybody on the right's going to say, well we know what that secret agenda is. why would you do that to you're, it's a self-inflicted wound. i don't understand why it would happen. >> you don't think people have already told him that? >> i think they probably -- >> he just wants to -- >> my guess they probably have. they probably told him meeting with putin right now is not a good idea.
what does the united states get out of it? what are our interests here? he's the kind of guy -- and we a all met these people -- this is not a good idea, you shun do it. and he's damn the for pi doe, i'm donald trump and i do these kind of thing. >> let's move on and talk about what happened on capitol hill today. we have been roaring nonstop attacks against peter strzok. he talked about how the russian leader might be viewing all of this. watch this. >> honest truth is that russian interference in our elections constitutes a grave attack on our democracy. most disturbly it had been wildly successful. you have the utmost president for congress's oversight role, but i strongly believe today's hearing is another vick hi notch
in putin's belt to tear america apart. >> another victory notch in putin's bell, part of our enemy campaign to tear america apart. is he right susan? >> i have to tell you, don, it is a powerful statement today. hearing is an embarrassing spect tackle. i was thinking about how it was taking place on the same day that the president of the united states is in brussels, at nato, at the alliance that the united states founded several decades ago. that has been by all our accounts part -- a war-torn continent. here's the president of the united states basically, doing vladimir putin's bidding at nato headquarters all day long. taunting our allies, calling them into emergency sessions, hounding them. and saying, oh actually, now i've fixed everything.
to me, two sides of same coin. you have here inside the united states, basically a campaign, and a politic of division and almost scorched earth. and you now have that in europe as well. beth of those thing absolutely are something that vladimir putin would look upon and say that helps me. >> hey, steve listen we heard a lot of people say trump is advancing putin's agenda. this is what a reporter says on russian state tv yesterday. >> i've been researching transatlantic relations all my life but i never thought i'd witness a period in history where it's not uss r or russia that's driving a wedge between tlanz atlantic allies. uss r tried to do that several times. their chief, washington and president of the u.s. is doing everything they can to break the trans-atlantic alliance and
union. >> what is as astounding. what is your position on hearing that? on russian state tv? >> my position on that is it's still russia propaganda. i never thought i'd find myself in agreement with what they say. it is vladimir putin's intention to tried to divide the west, to divide the united states. i think today's a good day for him in that regard. for that sort of thing to be put on russian tv just shows how fearless putin is and how much he's filling his anothers given what's going on with this president and there country and with nato right now. i would think that if donald trump is going into a meeting saying he's fine, it's fine, this is gung to be my easiest meeting, he really needs to think twice about that. just like whether you go into a meeting with the mafia going, it's worth talking to him, it's not. it's not going to end well.
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tonight, nato diplomats telling cnn that two trumps attended the summit. one trump smiled in public, the other one smoiled in private. michael, you've known then, donald trump, now president, for a long time. i'm going to bring you in first. the president's attack on nato, a big show, that he wanted to do -- he wanted to snarl and bolster for the cameras. whether you look at the meetings from g7 summit and now nato. is it part his play book. did he achieve anything?
>> well, at first it was businessman trump, back then he used to define success in kind of a rolling way. in one moment he would propose 20,000 housing units for the west side of manhattan, and a week later it was 15,000, then it was 10. if we wound up with 12, it was a victory. his method is to set the conditions first and keep changing them, that's part of his game. then declare victory no matter what happens. in singapore we can see he gave up the american war games and gave mr. kim all that he wanted in terms of equal status on the world's stage. and what has america received in return? nothing yet. so this is all subject to deaf anything, redefinition by the president. >> and many of the things he said today, this morning when he gave the press briefing were
inaccurate. there were deals and time lines that had already been made and needed a lot of fact which canning. here's what max boot writing in "the washington post". president trump likes his north korea template so much he's applying it to nato. ranch up the -- hold a meeting, act bud buddy buddy, claim that there's a deal and there's nothing. that's why i brought that up, i was wondering because there were people there when he was refuting. saying members are going to pay more in the time line that i put in place and saying that's not true. is this what it all boils down to, bluster and? >> i think sometimes president trump is his own one-man good cop, bad cop routine. i don't want to take anonymous
words for it or max boots words for it because he hates the president. i'll take francis words for it. the president of the united states reaffirmed his commitment and desire for a strong nato. i see a world leader, the head of france saying we are in ber shape than we were when we started. whatever discussions happened in public or private were coming out of the nato summit. i'll take his word over some anonymous diplomatic source. >> it doesn't bother you he gives the wrong information and people have to again refute it? i think the president of france is very diplomatic and is not going to do what our president does and try to cut people off at the knee. i think it was a very diplomatic statement on his behalf. i'm not sure if that's exactly how he feels totally in private, considering what he said what donald trump said today about many nations ranching up what they're going to pay, and more
than the 2% in the time line shorter than the one already decided, it's simply not true. >> yeah, i think the president is playing hardball with these guys. for presidents dating back to reagan they've all raised this issue, you need to pay more, participate more. presidents from many years raised the jargon for pipelines. no one has ever been willing to do anything about it. no one has ever ranch ratcheted it up like this president has -- >> that's simply not true. under obama, many neighbors had agreed to that time line, and it was agreed, they were all complying with it. the deadline is not here yet. so, what this president is saying is completely false. that was not his deadline, that's what the president and those who in power before this administration, that's what they decided on. to say other presidents didn't bring it up that's simply not
true. >> no i didn't say that didn't, i said they had brought it up they hasn't ratcheted it up like trump has. i'm sort of quoting the secretary general of nato who thanked donald trump for bringing this issue up and pressing it further -- >> again a diplomat. >> there are public statements from these people who run nato and said, hey, donald trump raised good points and i'm glad he did. you scattered showersasked earl numbers no i don't. >> his point is, it is not true what he is saying. and the people, if you read behind the lines and read they're full statements, they're about diplomatic. they're not saying donald trump is -- you know, lies through his teeth and says something that's completely false. of course they're going to
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president trump in a bombshell interview tonight with a british newspaper criticizing prime minister theresa may's handling of brexit. his comments were released shortly after being hosted for dinner. tomorrow the leaders will meet for working -- to meet with for tea with the queen of england. lots to discuss here. what a trip.
you're asston ished richard. good evening and thank you for joining us. you're astonished by this, considering the timing after this dinner and -- >> this has broken every diplomatic norm, the criticizing fellow world leaders. he has basically said, theresa may i gave her advice, she ig fored it and went in opposite direction. the deal is a bad deal. if she goes ahead with this deal, there will be no u.s./u.k. trade deal possible. that's the one thang that theresa may is olding oholding . she's going around saying we're going to lead so we can have deals with countries like the united states. he has not only pulled the rug out from under her, he's chopped her off at the legs and created a massive problem. >> before we continue, talk
about how she might respond, i want to play the president speaking about theresa may and we'll discuss. >> i would have done it much differently. i actually told theresa may how to do it but she didn't listen to me. >> what did she say. >> she wouldn't la nina. i told her how to do it, that would be up to her to say. she wanted to go a different route. >> so theresa may is supposed to listen to him? is he the prime minister? >> i have in idea how she sits opposite him tomorrow for that meeting and say, arnold don't, you just knifed me in the back. stabbed me in the chest, blown my head off and probably damaged my political career beyond repair. your position here is going to take this threat of no u.s./u.k. trade deal and they are going to run with it. this is the biggest issue she faces. put it another way. today, her party produced
104-page document on their brexit plan. donald trump, tonight, did that to it. >> didn't he criticize and said someone would have been a ber prime minister? >> he said boris johnson who resigned. that's the equivocal of theresa may coming out and saying, you know i think mitt romney -- >> or ted cruz maybe. >> ted would have med a marvelous president. >> the president talking about taking his wife melania to meet the queen in windsor. what is the protocol of this meeting, how he and the queen, what's going to happen? >> the queen's got her work cut out for her but she's a master. she's opinion in the job over 76 years. she's really the best par of
this whole trip. when he arrives there tomorrow he'll be greeted by the queen. they've only got 40 minutesing to but it'll be enough time for the queen to charm trump. whether he charms her is yet to be seen. everyone's worried about the faux pass coming along. >> that was my question. >> exactly. so, really donald trump needs to remember, don't hug the queen, don't ask the queen for a selfie, don't ask her political views, which of course in light of this i'm sure she's got strong political views. as a neutral head of stay she's not allowed to share those views. really with donald trump, the number one rule is going to be don't tweet any of the details afterwards. any conversations required to main private. >> do you think he's going to play by those rules? >> absolutely not. >> if he doesn't play by the rules does she have to play by
the rules? we don't know what her political leanings are right? so how will we know how she feels become donald trump, will we? >> we won't know. at the request of the british government the queen has interview numerous fakers. donald trump is going to be another member of that long list of conversall figures. she'll show him the hospitality she's required to. she'll turn on the charm, royal hospitality, it's a well-oiled machine. she'll do what she needs to do and you shall husher him out th door. >> remember how barack obama was greeted in britain and germany, there were crowds, even before he was president. how -- considering the ---on if we have video of this balloon --
>> yeah yeah yeah. >> how does people in britain feel about -- >> t dangerous but with a certain degree of certainty, the protest will be large, the opposition is great. and fundamentally people cannot -- the rosa of test of t world -- this is uncomfortable for me to say and it may be hard for people to hear -- the rest of the world in so many cases still cannot understand how he got elected. they're going to look at this, there'll be protests on the streets of london. he'll go to scotland where he's not the most popular people. so, he knows all this, he doesn't care. he knows all these issues, but the way they've managed this trip, get him out of london, get
him to chewhich he cars, get hio windsor, don't drive him through the streets of london where we may have a massive protest and get him up to scotland. >> i think majority of folks in this country, especially considering the popular vote. we may have to explain to the folks overseas about the electoral college. i appreciate it. we'll be watching. when we come back, an african-american mother wants to teach her 11 yearly son a healthy work ethic. she helps him land a job delivering newspaper. on his first day someone calls police on him. we'll speak to that young plan and his mother. that's next.
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black people for a lot of absurd reasons these days. swimming while black, barbecuing while black, napping while black, renting an airbnb while black, the list goes on and on. and now it's delivering a newspaper while black. he had police called on him on the first day of his new paper route in ohio. the very first day. his father got him the part time job so he could learn the importance of hard work. he went on on his route, but there was a mixup on which houses should receive a paper. he went back to fix his mistake and then a police officer showed up. a woman called them because he saw him walking up to a house and then walking with something in his hands. good evening. >> thank you for having us. >> you posted on facebook the paper route was about teaching
your son the importance of hard work and earning money and that's you were out there giving him things to do. everything that happened, what was the lesson that you ended up learning? >> the lessons i ended up learning is not to jump conclusions, you know. it's just give everybody a fair chance. we weren't doing anything wrong. we were just trying to do a job and have fun while we're doing it so -- >> so you now, are you doing okay? >> yeah. >> i'm glad you're here. you can deliver papers in my neighborhood anytime. i'll even help you. what did you think when you were approached by the police officers? did you have any idea why? >> no, i was confused. >> how so? talk to me about that? >> i was confused because i don't know if that's normal for them, but in our neighborhood
it's not normal for police to just run around like that. >> so what happened there's a discrepancy i understand about who exactly should be getting papers or not. i understand you were taking the things that were already delivered in the places that weren't supposed to be delivered and you were trying to fix your mistake, right? >> yes. >> and did you explain that to them and what happened? >> i didn't get a chance to talk with the cop. >> mom, tell me about that. >> so we actually didn't understand someone had called until we got home and saw the actual police report. my boss had explained to us when they got the paper route that they have an ordinance you have to deliver the paper on the porch. so that's what we were doing, and because it was our first time we realized we delivered to
the wrong street. which was an honest mistake. when i reversed he was picking up the paper off the porch. it was only a few houses that we had until we realized it was the wrong houses. so, yeah, that was pretty much the mistake that happened. >> where did you say you were at? >> it was only two houses. >> only two houses. listen, this is terrible and it never should have happened in the first place. but there are so many people out here who are very proud of you, who are rooting for you to succeed. what do you want to do? i know you just wanted some wrestling figures, but what do you want to do your life? >> it's either wrestling or football, maybe basketball, maybe lacrosse as well. i don't know about any other sports. >> the woman, brandy, who called the police she wasn't
identified, but if she is watching right now do you have a message for her for people who may be tempted to call police for doing something innocent like delivering newspapers? >> absolutely. and i'm not mad at her. i just think it could have been handled differently. that's his first experience of having a job and his first experience is having the cops called on him. and i think it could have been handled way differently, maybe thought through a little bit, you know, before we actually responded. maybe look out the window or door and ask is there something you're looking for. to me it's my own opinion because he's my own soon. he doesn't look threatening to me, so what was it you felt so threatened by? clearly she felt there was suspicious activity or she was upset he was in her lawn or
driveway. so if you were offended or upset that we came to your driveway, that's what they ask for as far as delivering the newspapers. we meant no harm by that. i did not appreciate, you know, the police being called on my 11-year-old african-american son. >> and she hasn't reached out to you, no one has reached out to you since then, right? >> no, they haven't. >> i'm going to give you the last word. what are you doing? >> i'm going to sixth grade. >> and what are you doing this summer? >> swimming, spending time with my little sister. playing my game, playing with my wrestlers. >> and being an 11-year-old. and let's hope -- listen, i would hope this doesn't stop you from delivering papers. that's your mom's decision, but i would say don't let it stop
you. and i have feeling you may get some wrestling figures from some folks that you -- >> i'll do it but not in that neighborhood. >> thank you, both. i appreciate it. good luck to you guys. have a great summer. and you, again, don't let it stop you. thanks, mom. >> i appreciate that. thank you so much for having us. >> absolutely. thanks for watching. our coverage continues. aturallyd brows that last. new tattoo brow tint pen from maybelline new york. multi-prong tip draws hair like strokes, for naturally defined brows up to 24 hours. maybelline's new tattoo brow tint pen. only from maybelline new york. maybelline's new tattoo brow tint pen. cohigher!ad! higher! parents aren't perfect, but then they make us kraft mac & cheese and everything's good again. we can'twhy?y here!
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