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interference to the kremlin itself, and the response so far from the white house it doesn't mention the attack or the kremlin or vladimir putin and it does not mention the russians at all. in fact all the white house did say was essentially nothing to do with us, nothing to see here. today's charges include no allegations of no involvement by anybody on the campaign, or the alleged hacking affected the election results. this is consistent with what they have been saying all along. >> the indictment charges 12 russian military officers by name for conspiring to interfere with the 2016 presidential election. according to the allegations in the indictment the defendants worked for two units of the main intelligen
intelligence d intelligence directory. >> the white house has nothing about that. one of the 11 along with a 12th officer are charged with conspiring to infiltrating the computers. there was a spear fishing attack in 2016 to gain access to the computers that connects more than 300 people from the clinton campaign. starting that june the defendants allegedly districted stolen documents through a website they created, a facebook page and twitter feed claiming they were, in the words of the indict, american hactavist, and they falsely claimed to be a lone romanian hacker.
however, as we weuill be talkin about tonight, it hardly slams the door on american k collaboration. it makes it 191 criminal counts since the mueller investigation began, and 32 individuals and three companies charged. perhaps more strikely than that is this, the entire time that president trump has been overseas attacking our allies but not criticizing vladimir putin, he presumably has known what would happen today. >> i briefed president trump about these allegations earlier this week. the president is fully aware of the department's actions today. >> so just think about that. when he said this, as he left for his trip, he may have already known. >> so i have nato, i have the uk, which is in somewhat
turmoil, and i have paout putin, and putin may be the easiest of them all. who would think? >> keeping him honest, he knew about it when he was attacking america's nato allies and when he was standing next to theresa may saying this. >> i think i would have a very good relationship with president putin if we spent time together, and i may be wrong and other people said that and it didn't work out but i am different from other people. i think we are being hurt very badly from -- i would call it a rigged witch hunt after watching some of the clips, and i didn't get to watch too much because it's a different time zone, and after i watched the man testifying yesterday, i called it the rigged witch hunt and it
hurts our relationship with russia. >> again, just to be clear, that witch hunt, as the president called it, now yielded 191 charges against three companies and the president knew about it, and it certainly has not stopped him about tweeting about women with hats. he has described the russia sproeb using witch hunt all the way back to may of 2016. something else that happened in 2016, here it is. >> i will tell you this, russia, if you are listening, i hope you are able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. let's see if that happens. that will be next. >> that was july 27th, 2016. let me just read from today's indictment.
quote, on or about july 27th, 2016, the conspiriters tried to spear fish at or around the same time they targeted 76 e-mail addresses at the domain for the clinton campaign. and nothing connects what the candidate said with what the russians did, but the timing of it? it raises questions. but the president asked for russia to get involved on the same day the indictment says the russians got involved. reaction now from somebody who knows more about the russian cyber attack, former clinton campaign manager. >> anderson, on the one hand this is not terribly new information. we have known for a long time that the russians and specifically russian intelligence were behind the stealing of e-mails from the dnc
and disseminating them from the media, but when we pull back, i think this is another really important chapter in a pretty serious set of events, and the life of this investigation, there have been 35 indictments now, including these. we have five people who plead guilty and one person in prison. we also learned from the document interesting timing that the day donald trump during the campaign called on the russians to take hillary clinton's e-mails and put them out, the russians went and tried to do exactly that. >> do you think the summit should be canceled? >> i do. i think it's totally inappropriate for the president of the united states to meet privately with the russian president when this overwhelming evidence has come out, specific people have been named as to how the russians were trying to meddle in the election. this was really hard for donald
trump to do, but he needs to put his own interests aside. >> the white house says the summit is going to go on. assuming it does, what would you like to see president trump say to vladimir putin or confront him, or what would you want to get out of this? >> it's hard to see how it could be productive, i suppose, if they were side by side at a press conference. the president -- president trump could call out president putin for what he did. our understanding this was all done at his direction, that was leaked out from intelligence. he could call on him to immediate immediately extradite people involved. >> i heard you say earlier that the past is the past. the fact the justice department alleges the russian government hacked into server e-mails and
also had campaign data. >> we had a national political committee targeted and the house candidates targeted, and i don't know that we talk about that enough. that has a severe impact on the races. and then an official from dhs said yesterday he beliefs all 50 states, that the russians were scanning them for vulnerabilities, and we know they penetrated 21 state systems and stole data from some states. it's disturbing the president is not only not saying anything about it, he's having a meeting with the aggressor. >> yeah. >> and continually says, just repeats, well vladimir putin says they had nothing to do with this, and that's generally what we heard from the president when he speaks about this? >> it's not like this is a leak, and it's not like it's just some random allegation, this is a very long, very detailed
indictment. it's all the more embarrassing that the republicans yesterday were trying to beat up on the very investigators that were doing this work. >> you think they are embarrassed? >> okay, fair, i hope so they should be, but sadly some won't be, probably. >> thanks very much. appreciate it. >> thanks. and he learned intelligence gatherers picked up some of the indicted russians congratulating each other during the campaign and celebrating president trump's victory when he won, which tells a lot about the u.s. intelligence capability, at the very least. welcome to our guests, and jeff tubin, how big do you think the indictments are and what do they tell you about the direction of the mueller investigation? >> anderson, i don't want to sound mellow dramatic, but i think today is a significant moment in american history.
we only had 45 presidents, and here we now know that one of them was elected with the intentional help of a foreign power in violation of american law with the aggressive and open support of the candidate who was the beneficiary of those crimes, and that's a profound thing. that's something historians will look at for decades. legally i don't know where the story goes here because i don't think there's any way these defendants are ever going to show up in an american courtroom. i don't think there's a trial that is coming. and it is true that there has been no case made yet that says the trump campaign or other americans solicited in an illegal way, committed crimes in aiding and abetting the
russians, but that may yet happen. you know, this indictment doesn't address that question one way or the other. just the enormity of what we learned today, i think, is something we need to ponder. >> the president was calling the investigation a witch hunt and rob rosenstein said he briefed the president already, and he was saying on national television the investigation was a witch hunt knowing there were 12 officials being investigated by his own justice department. it doesn't make sense. >> because in the realm of the normal, even to be -- have a baby toe in the realm of the normal, that would be surprising, but we're not there and as much as, you know, we think that we are getting used to this new normal, it's not. and you are exactly right, anderson. the fact that the president said a couple of times that this is a
witch hunt since he apparently was briefed by his own deputy attorney general about these indictments which we now know is incredibly detailed about what these russian government officials, intelligence officials, the length they went to and the money they spent and the people they talked to, and the pinprick precision with which they sort of went through releasing this information to be as detrimental and cause as much chaos to the american election, the one that did elect donald trump, is -- just blows the mind. there's little question, i mean, it probably is obvious, but just in talking to people who are familiar with this, there's little question that rod rosenstein did this today for a reason, and that is because the president is going to be meeting with vladimir putin on monday. this gives him sort of an
inability to deny this investigation -- to deny this happened, and the inability to say, okay, i am just going to ask you, did you meddle and take the answer and that is it. >> why? he can -- why would he be held to that standard at all by any of his supporters? >> well, right, by his supporters, but the pressure is going to be so high on the president to not ask the question but to tell vladimir putin, you did this. you are right, it doesn't necessarily mean he's going to do it, but that clearly was the goal of rod rosenstein to pressure the president. >> in any normal world there certainly has been the pressure because of actual facts and actual evidence that we have already known, and that has not happened. the white house, it's just stunning, the white house statement was entirely defensive and made zero mention of any outrage at what these
high-ranking russian intelligent officials allegedly have done to our country. it's like this president, it's all about him. that's what his focus is. >> this was an act of war by the russians, an act of cyber warfare to undermine our most basic democratic process. it's a profound development today what rosenstein did on a number of levels, not the least of which he has evnsured the sanctity of mueller's investigation. it cannot be shut down without probably moving for impeachment. >> by who? the republicans? >> yes. we have now reached the point where the deep state narrative has been upended, and what trump's desire, and he's talked openly to people in the white house about it, he wants to fire
rosenstein. that's his way of getting this investigation to go away and for him to get control of the investigation and bury it. he can't do that after today. rosenstein -- >> i couldn't disagree more. >> yeah. jeff, i think i know what road you are going to go down -- >> legally he can. >> i don't understand. there's not like republican outrage about the president calling it a witch hunt today or -- i mean, jeff, do you think this is some sort of a crossing of a raoub acon, where now the president can't confront vladimir putin? what evidence is there of that? >> if there's anything we learned in the last year and a half, nothing changes anybody's mind. no news development changes peoples' mind. donald trump has 40% support of the people, and 60% of the people disapprove, and nothing changes. i don't think today's news will
either. so if the president wants to fire rod rosenstein tomorrow, he will fire him. look, he called this a witch hunt after this news broke. he called it a witch hunt after his own justice department laid out chapter and verse how the russians intervened in this election. the facts don't matter at all. >> but you know what? >> the republican party is united behind him. >> yes, and i have talked to republican operatives, and i know this might boggle your mind, but they said the russia investigation started to help them in the polls in some of these districts because so many people were turned off on hearing about it without any meat on the bones. so here's the meat. that's not where this mid-term election will be fought, it's going to be fought in swing
districts or suburban districts. it's going to go change some margins. >> the white house has not said anything about this is outrageous that we were attacked, we are considering delaying the summit, and it's like, there's no mention of us, we're good. >> i wouldn't expect the white house to do that. i think what is now possible, it's very difficult for all the republicans on the hill to maintain, as they have, that this is somehow an illegitimate investigation. some people in the republican leadership are going to start to be worried about this, and this is a different kind of development -- >> they are going to be worried when they go home and they are under the sheets and they are whispering to their wives and husbands, but who said anything so far? >> again, lets give it a few
days. i think this is a new element. i could be wrong. >> they are going to say it's their therapist in the sanctity of the medical office where nobody can report on it. >> i think it's more likely the bartender than the therapist, anderson. >> all right. >> we will have to see, but this is different. >> i am going to have a couple drinks tonight. thank you very much. coming up next, more reaction from the white house and all the president's people to the charges today and what they mean for the summit on monday. two top political strategist joins us from both sides of the issue. later, the tears of a 6-year-old give way of a 6-year-old, that the world and country got to know, and she was separated from her mom a month, and she was reunited with her mom after being separated a month ago at the border.
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who joins us from london. anything you heard from the white house about the summit going forward or is there a moment where they may comment and express a form of outrage about the attack on the united states of america? >> reporter: that would be something, anderson, and that is something we have not heard up until to point. i talked to two white house officials that said the summit is still on and no second thoughts about that. you know, the one thing that i did ask the president earlier today is whether or not he will tell vladimir putin to stay out of u.s. elections, and he said, yes, he would do that and as he was leaving that press conference with the prime minister theresa may here in britain, and going into the summit on monday with putin is whether or not the president insists putin turn over the agents that were named in the indictment, but it could be
refreshing to hear the president issue that demand, but there's no sense of whether or not that will happen. >> the president never issued any demand to vladimir putin in the times they have met. >> that's right. yeah, anderson, i mean, you heard all this week, you heard the president in brussels saying he wishes he and vladimir putin could be friends. he said earlier today at the press conference with theresa may that, you know, this witch hunt that he calls it, this russia investigation, he feels it complicates his relationship with vladimir putin. he wishes it was out of the way, and the president is pretty up front about it. the question everybody has in washington and all around the country and people around the world is whether or not the president can stand up to vladimir putin in some kind of public setting. we understand they are going to meet behind closed doors, and it's going to be mono on mono, and for the question that will happen on monday is when the
president comes out of the meeting and says to the world i challenged vladimir putin on the points, and he has not done that to this point and he said he expect the outcome to be he will ask vladimir putin did you meddle in the election, and vladimir putin will say no and there will not be a "perry mason" moment is what he said today. >> i don't have it in front of me, and i will double-check this, and he has been fantasizing about being best friends with vladimir putin since the miss universe pageant, and there's a tweet saying i wonder if he will become best friends. i will try and find it right now. the fact that the president was briefed by rod rosenstein before the indictments were announced and called the investigation a witch hunt today in britain, what does that say? >> well, this is why there are
so many politicians in both parties, anderson. remember john mccain put out the statement today saying under the circumstances perhaps the president should not have the meeting with putin, and democrats were saying the same thing, and fellow republicans were saying that. this is a concern. anderson, i talked with diplomatic sources for the last week go into the foreign trip for the president, and they are very concerned behind the scenes, and they will say it privately and not publicly that the president is going to go on monday and give away the story, he will have this moment not unlike what we saw in singapore where he wants to have the reality tv moment with kim jong-un as he had in singapore, and this time he wants to have it with vladimir putin and say to the world i met with the dictator and this is what happened. but we just have no indication whatsoever from the president based on his experience he would
stand up to the president. it's perhaps one of the biggest moments of his presidency, and you have the fact that rod rosenstein briefed him on the indictments, and they have evidence that the russians were hack into the democratic party during the election, and it's time to put it in his face and say don't do this again, and the question is whether or not he will do that, anderson. >> it was june 13th, and the words were anticipating and hoping he would come to a miss universe pageant, and -- this is a quote, if so will he become my new best friend? thank you very much. joining us now, jason miller. the president was briefed about the indictments earlier this week, and russian agents hack into state voting data and he stood there today on live international television and called the investigation a witch
hunt. is that appropriate? >> i think there are a couple different things that are going on here. first, when we are talking about the witch hunt, we are talking about this continued allegation and if there are some sort of coordination between the campaign and a foreign entity, which i think the president is spot-on -- >> he's calling the witch hunt, the mueller investigation, that whole mueller investigation is a witch hunt and the mueller investigation is more than just look into any possible trump involvement? >> i think what the president -- this is what it started as. it started as the so-called coordination between the campaign and a foreign entity, and now they are way off the reservation at this point, talking about going into other things, as we are talking about, and the russians interfering with the election, yes, that would be part of it and we are talking about the continued effort to go after the president and people around the president and it's a fishing expedition.
>> you say it's a deep state fishing exspedition, and he is calling an attack on the united states a witch hunt. that's what you just validated. >> no, i would disagree with you on that. what they are supposed to be looking at, again, this so-called coordination between the campaign and a foreign entity. i think the investigation is going in so many different directions and it's fair to criticize where the investigation is and where they are a year, year and a half into the process. >> do you think it's unfair they indicted the russian intelligent agents for the attack, and you think that's part of a fishing expedition that they are off the reservation and that's not part of the investigation? >> not at all, and i think it's terrible some foreign entity or the gru, these russian intelligence officials were trying to meddle in the election and we should hold them accountable --
>> you just said the mueller investigation has gone off the reservation and it's not a term i would normally use, but where they are at right now is indictments of russians for attacking -- cyber attacking the united states. that's not a good thing. that's an inpropoappropriate us the mueller investigation sort of thing. >> i think what this investigation started were allegations there was some sort of coordination between a foreign entity and nothing has been proven that the campaign coordinated or colluded or did anything with a foreign entity to impact the election. what they found in the process is that clearly there were some foreigners that were attempting to meddle in the election -- >> so they should stop now, you are saying? they should stop that investigation? >> i am saying that's the focus, the focus of this should clearly
be to what extent was a foreign entity trying to impact or influence the election, and that's where it should be focused. >> paul, does that make sense to you? >> not a lot. i have to tell you, anderson, everything about the indictment shocked me. people should read it and it's only 29 pages and in plain language. we know donald trumps on july 27th had a press conference, and politicians do that all the time to try and affect the news coverage. in the last press conference he looked in the camera and said russia, if you are listening i hope you can find hillary's e-mails. now we know from mr. mueller's indictment today that on that day the russians tried to hack hillary clinton's and other's close to her e-mails, 76 different accounts they targeted on that same day. that is literally collusion. it's just done out in public. whether it's criminal, i have no idea, there's no charges yet and
we have to be careful not to get ahead of ourselves, but it's plain that mr. trump personally and many people around him asked russia to help them in the election and russia did help them. >> hold on, hold on. >> what supporters said, that was a joke and he was being sarcastic. >> i guess they didn't have a sense of humor at the russian intelligence. trump was never a comedian. he was not joking and the russians knew he was not joking. he did not say, anybody good with computers, he asked russia to do it. >> paul, paul, i have to jump in here. let's talk -- >> i didn't interrupt you because i thought you were making my case better than i could, but let me finish. over 70 contacts of people close to donald trump and -- we will
know in time. it may be that trump and his folks were completely innocent in which case at best they were the unfitting beneficiaries of a criminal enterprise, and that's the best defense, they were useful useful idiots for russia, and peop people close to him were trying to help the russians. >> rudy guiliani, he said the investigation should end, and why should they end it now? shouldn't they continue to turn over evidence and see where this leads? >> anderson, that has been going on for a year now. the fact of the matter is even
with this today there's nothing that ties in or connects or says the campaign did anything wrong. at a certain point here, i mean, where is this fishing expedition end? >> we don't want to get any more russians? why wouldn't you be concerned about the investigation going on? as you say, it has not indicated anybody in the trump campaign, but it has netted -- it has named, you know, more than a dozen russians so far. isn't that a good thing and shouldn't that continue so we get to the bottom of what happened in the attack on this country? how else will we get to the bottom of the attack on our country? >> here's, anderson, where i will have to agree more with rudy guiliani and disagree with where you are trying to go, and some on the political left want this to keep going until they hopefully find something that may be gets at president trump directly. >> no doubt there are people on
the left that want that, but what they want doesn't really matter. isn't it if it's bearing fruit and naming russians and there may be more russians, shouldn't somebody be investigating those russians, and isn't the mueller team the one to do that? >> i think what major rudy guiliani was speaking to that, nothing has been put forward that ties anything back to president trump or his campaign, and at a certain point this -- >> did you read the indictment today? >> what is that? >> did you read the indictment? >> yes, i read -- was it 29 pages? i went through it. >> it documents people close -- >> april, they were pulling records on ted cruz and hillary clinton, and all different sorts of things. >> if i could quickly jump to the summit. our president is going to meet with mr. putin, and they don't have an agenda anyway, and now
they do. i have written a lot of talking points for a president, and this is the easiest i ever have written. you walk in and say mr. putin, you have the right to remain silent and bring in robert mueller, and you have 24 hours to turnover the russians named in the indictment -- >> you know the president doesn't make direct confrontation with anybody. >> you are too small-minded on this. you have to look at the bigger chess game. >> we need nato's help on everything and he trashed them. as we just heard, democrats are calling on trump to cancel the russian summit, and coming up we will talk about whether we see any chance of indicting the russians involved. crabfest is back at red lobster!
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we have been talking about the summit and what the president should might or will or won't say to vladimir putin. joining us, the ranking member of the judicial house committee. do you believe the president will demand the extradition of the russians as you have called for him to do? >> no, i don't, because unfortunately the president is giving every indication of what vladimir putin wants. if he were a russian agent or if putin had something over him he would be acting exactly as he
has been, and he has been trying to wreck nato and our relations with the eu, and so forth. i think that we now know from these indictments that the investigation clearly not a witch hunt. we now know that our democracy was attacked by russian military intelligence, and we have to react to that. we should clearly cancel the summit and impose the harshest economic sanctions until and unless the russians surrender all those people for trial here, number one. number two, it's now very clear that the side show that the republicans are carrying on in congress, these hearings about the hillary clinton investigation, and strzok and page and so forth, it's a side show designed to discredit the investigation, which it doesn't. the fact that the president
called it a witch hunt after we know -- after he knew about the indictments shows we can't trust him. that's another reason he shouldn't have this summit because we can't trust what he will do, certainly along with putin. >> we are coming down a rabbit hole and things of aren't normal start to seem normal. it's unbelievable the white house on the day detailed indictments are sent out about the attack on the united states and the democratic process, the response from the white house is simply it shows nothing about the president and they are calling for now the investigation to end because it's going into areas it's not supposed to go into, and the areas it's going into are bearing indictments? >> this is -- this investigation has been going on for a year and a quarter. it has been incredibly fruitful.
we have 35 or so indictments. some of them are people close to the president and to his campaign, including his deputy campaign manager, and guilty pleas i should say and an indictment of his campaign manager, and we have indictments of russian military agents attack the united states, and it's an attack on the country and for the president not to react as such is -- is unbelievable and indicates we can't trust the president. my final reaction is that -- that we have to make sure that this investigation goes forward until it's finished. the benghazi investigation went on for two years and showed nothing and the iran-contra investigation went on for two years. maybe it will show that the people in the trump campaign, maybe including the president colluded with the russians and maybe it won't, but we need to
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before i get to this story, a lot of the trump supporters on the program tonight have been saying that the mueller investigation's gone too far, that it was really supposed to look into collusion. actually, if you have it right here on my phone, the rosenstein's mandate to mueller from may of 2017, and i'm just quoting, says by virtue of the authority invested in me in
order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision, management of the department of justice and to provide a full and thorough investigation of the russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. those are his marching orders. thousands took to the streets of london today to protest trump's visit to england. he gave an interview to the rupert murdoch paper "the sun." the british withdrawal from the european union. >> i would have done it much differently. i actually told theresa may how to do it, but she didn't agree -- she didn't listen to me. >> what did she say? >> she didn't listen. no, i told her how to do that. that will be up to her to say. but i told her how to do it. she wanted to go a different route. >> well, later, speaking to reporters, he blithely said he hadn't criticized her one bit, and used a phrase very familiar to his american supporters. >> i didn't criticize the prime minister. i have a lot of respect for the prime minister.
and unfortunately, there was a story that was done which was generally fine, but it didn't put in what i said about the prime minister, and i said tremendous things. and fortunately, we tend to record stories now, so we have it for your enjoyment if you like it. but we record when we deal with reporters. it's called fake news. we solve a lot of problems. >> well, fake news, the president said. and all this just days before the president's summit with vladimir putin at the beginning of next week in finland. with me now maggie haberman and max boot. maggie, i just want to get to what happened today in the uk in a moment. just in terms of the president trump summit, you know how the president operators. do you think he will actually confront putin? on indictments and russias efforts to under mine the election. we've talked about this before. for all his saying you're fired on television, he does not seem to like face-to-face confrontation hi, doesn't. it really depends on the sliding scale of the term "confrontation" here and how he'll do it. i could see him possibly saying something to putin.
i could see him saying was that really you guys? no, okay. and then they move on. and we won't really know because there are not going to be aides in this agenda summit there are reasons why people are calling on him not to go forward with this. equally important to what he says in that meeting is what he says publicly, and the white house statement did nothing to acknowledge -- it doesn't say russia. it doesn't have any condemnation about what took place. president trump's go-to during the campaign and right after he was elected is do you think the u.s. is so innocent in this regard as well? we've meddled in other people's elections. you can say that and also condemn other acts against this country. the backdrop is not just his meeting with putin. the backdrop is we're in the middle of an election cycle taking place in four months where intelligence community officials have said russians are already seeking to play a role. when he doesn't lay down parameters, doesn't say there are going to be consequences, it's clear why putin wouldn't think there are any. >> it does seem like the talking
point among the president's supporters would be, okay, this should end because they're not talking about collusion anymore, and they're actually indicting russians. and that's not what they're supposed to be doing, and let's end this. i don't understand the logic of that at all. it seems to me if they're actually indicting people and following a trail of evidence, why would you stop an investigation when they're still following that trail of evidence and still learning things? >> i think the logic is pretty clear, anderson, which is that the president and his supporters are placing his political well being above the security of the united states. i mean this was a massive attack on america. you had a foreign power meddling in our elections, helping to elect the president of the united states. this is something that is unconscionable and that no president should stand for this. any president should call putin out, should be deeply concerned about the integrity of our elections and the fact, as our intelligence chiefs have
testified, that these attacks are not over, that they are planning to attack the 2018 election, the 2020 election, and so forth and so on. but all that president trump seems to be caring about here is whether this will impugn him in some way or not, whether this will reflect badly on him. so as far as i'm concerned, he is not fully discharging his oath of office to protect and defend the constitution of the united states, and i'm sorry to see members of the republican party letting him get away with this shameful dereliction of duty. >> it's hard to argue he's putting the country first rather than his own insecurity or his own whatever it is. i can't get into his head. the fact the president knew about these impending indictments earlier this week, yet he still called the mueller investigation a witch hunt today. >> yes. >> it tells you all you need to know about the way he thinks. >> it does. if you take that statement and combine it with rudy giuliani's statement, his main lawyer who has been the spokesperson for the defense -- not the defense,
but for the president's legal team at this point, saying and therefore this means that this is a false investigation that shouldn't exist. it clearly has nothing to do with the president. as you say, everything is about what it relates to in terms of him. we've seen this time and again. this president versus the presidency. this president versus his administration. there are tough actions that his administration has taken against russia, and he sometimes points to them, but he doesn't use the same language, not even anything close to it, about putin that he uses about, you know, our allies. >> right. >> so it is jarring to see over and over again. >> thank you. up next, it was one of the galvanizing moments of the family separation crisis, the audiotape of a 6-year-old girl as she was split from her mother. just ahead, mother and daughter finally together again. directv gives you more for your thing. if you've been waiting for a sign to quit cable, then here's some signs.
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>> tonight, the girl, alison madrid, and her mother cindy are finally reunited. gary tuchman has more. >> reporter: 6-year-old alison jimena walking off her first plane ride ever. she looked out her window and wondered during the flight, played with her doll, getting off in houston with two social workers hours after being released from a shelter in arizona, getting ready to see the mother she was separated from one month ago. while she waited for her mom to arrive, the two spoke by phone. mother cindy telling her she and her lawyer are on a very long drive to the airport from south texas but will be there soon. after alison was done talking to her mom, i told cindy i was on the plane with her daughter. [ speaking foreign language ]
>> reporter: she was not scared on the plane. you are very strong, right? at 3:00 a.m., cindy arrives at houston intercontinental airport for the reunion she's been dreaming of for a month, finally getting to hold hands with her daughter. >> big smiles. >> reporter: the little girl heard the whole over back with her mother, a mother released from a detention center in texas after being approved to proceed with her asylum claim. following a journey. cindy not even knowing where her daughter was after they were separated a little over four weeks ago. alison says, i missed my mommy. i was so happy to see her at the airport. i'm happy i will now see her all the time. cindy says she isn't going to