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this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. it is 11:00 p.m. here on the east coast. we're live with new developments tonight. russian investigations. vladimir putin now under inindictment for tacking hillary clinton during the campaign. mueller and his team has brought 191 criminal charges against 32 individuals and 3 companies. today's charges coming three days before president trump's one-on-one meeting with vladimir putin. a meeting, which trump speculated will be the easiest of his overseas trip. and note this, the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein said he briefed the president a few days ago. that makes trump's comments about wanting a friendship with russia a little perplexing. your deputy attorney general briefs you about agents who worked to undermine in american election and your harshes rebuke
is calling putin a competitor. >> russia has been the most aggressive foreign actor, no question. and they continue their efforts to undermine our democracy. >> and listen to what rod rosenstein said today. >> free and fair elections, always hard. they'll will also be adversary that seek to exacerbate our divisions and try to confuse, divide and concur us. >> has russia already succeeded? let's talk about that. i want to bring in shimon, and jack quinn who was white house counsel to president clinton. and derek graph, the author of "threat measures." glad to have all of you on. jack, i'll start with you. talking about serious charges, money fraud, and yet, these 12 operatives will likely never see a u.s. courtroom. what was mueller's purpose in laying out like he did? is he sending a message laying this out like he did? >> i think there are two parts to answer that. number one, definitely sending a
message to russians involved. likelihood of they're being extradited and tried is virtually little. government infrequently will identify foreign actors who break our law, shame them, make that public as a way of acting as a deterrent. secondly, this set of indictments is an important part of mueller's completing his mandate to determine whether there was russian interference in the election in 2016, and whether in connection with such interference, there was coordination with the trump campaign. these indictments today were huge. they were huge because they are con cluesive now, i think, together with the first indictments on the point that, number one, russia interfered in
the length, no ifs, ands or buts about it. that's the conclusion that it's come to. >> garry, you've written about mueller, do you think the timing of these indictments, a few days before the president is set to meet one-on one with putin, do you think this is continuance dental or do you think mueller wanted this out? >> it's hard to say. the u.s. had identified specific russian intelligence officers they were prepared to charge, but there are some reasons to believe that this is sort of consistent with the way mueller has been doing these indictments. we know he has been working for a long time building a case we haven't yet seen.
we know his indictments have been coming down traditionally on friday. it's possible but hard to not read into this. this is landing just hours before the president meets with vladimir putin. and, you know, just to pick up and emphasize one of the things that jack said, it's not that russia interfered with the election, this is the russian government, the russian military interfered, attacked the 2016 election. we've had plenty of evidence that russians have been involved. but this is the military and this is the government here
working on behalf of a foreign nation to undermine our democratic process. >> shimon, remember when donald trump asked the russian to get hillary clinton's e-mails? here he is july 27, 2016. >> russia if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. >> so, shimon, we're learning the russians got the message allow and clear. >> certainly they did. this indictment talks about this hours after the president said that. according the indictment the russians sort of launched an attack, that they wanted to try to get into the hillary clinton company e-mails. that did this spear fishering attacks, they used e-mails to try to get folks associated to clinton campaigns to click on links in order for russians to get access to the accounts. here's what the indictments said about that. it says the russians individuals affiliated with the clinton campaign through the summer of 2016.
then they say that for example, on or about july 27, 2016, the russians attempted after hours to spearphish for first time e-mail accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by clinton's personal office. at or around the same time they also targeted 76 e-mail addresses at the domain for the clinton campaign. certainly significant, don. what it shows is just how -- we talked a lot about how sophisticated these groups of hackers were -- he's russian, military hackers were. what made them so sophisticated is how organized they were. and that they were tracking a lot of this information, they knew what to look for, they knew who to look for and how to get access to some of these people, how to e-mail some of those folks. it was the organization and persistence of this group and trying to get in to the e-mail accounts of some of these
people. this is 76 people, according to the indictment, over 300 people they had spearphished attacked. people at the dnc, the d c cc and the hillary clinton campaign. all the evers of trying to get inside these accounts, servers and try to pull more dirt on the hillary clinton campaign. >> jack, we've been saying all along collusion is not an illegal term, but in a sense, was collusion out in the open for everyone to see? >> it's a term that flies in the different area of the law. there was no conclusion in this set of indictments about whether there was some collusion. but the paragraph that shimon just spoke of, paragraph 44 in the indictment is incredibly meaningful.
tieing together the statement that the, then candidate trump made that morning, and the action of the russian intelligence people who were undertaking this intrusion into the campaign. the linkage of those two things is not in there by any accident. i will say by the way, for as sophisticated and diligent andfer sis talent an effort submit hone described on the par of the russians one of the things that come through how determined the mueller investigation is, in terms of ferreting out all of the actors involved here. if there were any americans who were part of this conspiracy, we'll know about it. >> aside from the question about why the president is only calling vladimir putin the worse
thing, he's calling him a competitor, garry, why aren't we hearing more thing from the white house when we're talking about attack and attack on the united states? >> yeah, that was really striking in sarah huckabees comments today. she echoed what rudy giuliani was saying when there's no collusion in this indictment. the correct comment should have been clearly, we are outraged on the attack of this democracy and as such, we are cancelling monday's summit with vladimir putin. rod rosenstein said he briefed president trump personally on these charges, that they were forthcoming this week. as you said, it makes it all the more crazy that donald trump has been insulting this investigation over the last couple of days. including yesterday, it puts in stark relief that house gop 12-hour marathon attack on fbi agent peter strzok, who helped lead this very investigation
that resulted in this incredible set of charges against the russian military today. >> yeah. shimon, and you're reporting about u.s. intelligence russians in the indictment, congratulates each other over this campaign, what is this about? >> this has been something that's been known for quite sometime and sort of helped in the assessment that the intelligence community made at the time about russia and their involvement. it is interesting, because it shows just how much the u.s. was able to get inside the russian operation and monitor them. what the intelligence showed is that they were celebrating the success of this operation. at some point during the campaign, we don't know exactly when, but there was communications where they were happy. they were like, wow we were successful in being able to do this. and then also, there was celebration over the victory. the fact that the president,
that trump won the election. they used some of this information in kind of building their assessment and their intelligence to put the focus on this group, and the belief that they were behind this hack. >> thank you all. i appreciate it. why this week shows donald trump is turning his back on ronald reagan's approach to foreign policy, and why his base love it. fareed zakaria here to discuss. my name is jeff sheldon, and i'm the founder of ugmonk. before shipstation it was crazy. it's great when you see a hundred orders come in, a hundred orders come in, but then you realize i've got a hundred orders i have to ship out.
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president insisting in public today, he did not criticize british prime minister theresa may hours after he did in an interview, which was recorded on tape. i was to bring in fareed zakaria. it's very interesting what he calls fake news, then he -- what a week. first the president -- you say the president is applying the art of new york hustle.
explain that, fareed. >> if you think about it, what he's doing is puzzling. he makes up facts, he lies, he invents crises and prejudice he solved them. present, he goes to nato and says, you guys are not doing enough. then he comes back and says, i've gotten them to spend more on defense. none of it is true. the 2% target he's trying to bang on for nato was set by barack obama. it was obama who asked the nato countries to spend 2% on defense. it was obama's, secretary of defense, robert gates who in his farewell address says, if you guys don't do this, support in america for nato is going to drop. they were very tough on it. the criticism for germany in its pipeline was made by the obama administration. he makes it out like its his
invention. he's come up with this idea that he's arm wrestled these people to the ground and con distracted these concessions. all of this is made up. that's why i call it the new york hustle. you claim you got a great deal when you just kind of went in and bought retail. >> off the rack. it's amazing, i watch his body language, i'm like, what is he doing. i mean -- anyways, for me it's are embarrassing. >> the thing not to underestimate, don, is the degree to which, if you say something often and loudly enough, people begin to buy it. so, you just keep saying, i am amazing, i've gotten this great deal. i've gotten this achieved. after a while there's a very interesting phenomenon here where he anchors your perceptions. and everyone thinks he's exaggerating, they say, maybe it's 21% less than that. he didn't get a great deal, he got a good deal. that's why you have this wild
accusation. he creates this reality where everyone says, okay, maybe it's not quite bad but there's something here. he always says he's worth $10 billion -- >> there's absolutely no proof of that, do you know that? >> maybe he's worth $2 billion, or $3 billion. >> for those of us who just didn't full off the turnup truck, we know the fact and what the obama administration did before him. i want you to listen to hillary clinton talking about trump and nay know during 2016 campaign, watch this. >> you are willing to spout the
putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up nato, do whatever he wants to do. united states has kept the peace through our alliances. donald wants to tear up our alliances. i think it makes the world safer and frankly the united states safer. >> she seemed to have predicted the current crises with nato. >> what's puzzling everybody in nato -- i was in europe a few days ago, what puzzled them most about donald trump is he does not seem to be pursuing america's interest. it's not clear what gain there is for america. for american president to belittle the prime minister at the time she's trying to do these negotiations, undermined her credibility. it doesn't make sense that he'll undermined nato. cause people to wonder whether america would come to their defense if the russians were to attack. the idea that putin is an free agent -- he mocked those of us
in the media who pointed out that putin was a kgb agent. when he said putin is not a kgb agent, he's fine, he's a good guy. why is he doing all this? other people wonder whether there is some real intent to break up nato or undermined the pillars of western community. what he really doing is playing to his base. he knows if he talks about how everyone takes america for granted. the european take us for granted. the japanese take us for granted on trade. the chinese is vesting us on trade. it plays to a rhetoric that has become the new republican party. >> this is president trump what he said earlier today about immigration and europe. watch this. >> i think that's very much our germany, i think it's very much other parts of europe.
i know it's politically not necessarily correct to say that but i'll say it and i'll say it loud. and i think they better watch themselves because you are changing culture, you are changing a lot of things. you're changing security, look at what's happening. you take a look. look at what's happening to different countries that never had difficulties or problems. it's a very sad situation, very unfortunately. >> it's interesting that he said countries that never had difficulties or problems until immigration. does he know much of the history about europe? this was a continent that tore
itself apart over culture, identity, world war ii the holocaust. >> yeah, the idea that germany had no problems until they started taking immigrants in, that's news to anyone whose studied history. either way that statement there is flatly wrong. germany will have zero percent growth or negative growth on the fact that it's taken in over large amounts of immigrants over the years. they need young workers. the energy of the people that -- yes, it's been a challenge to integrate, there's no question about that. you can't change this at this point. europe is already an immigrant society. europe has as many foreign-born people as the united states
does. parts of sweden has more foreign-born than the united states does. they're trying to make this work. what purpose does it serve for the president of the united states to walk into these societies, deliver their governments, demean the process of this. this is what europeans are trying to understand. it's not helping american security, it's not bolstering confidence in america. it's not making people want to buy american good anymore. if you look at polls taken in europe where it ask if you trust the united states, those poll numbers are plummeting down. why is he doing this? i think he's playing a populus national court because he believes his political safl vague at home lies in creating
and expanding this populus national lift somewhat racist base within the party. what he's trying to do is fan the flames of cultural resentment. he's taken the party of reagan, which was in favor of free trade. promoting -- >> can i read a quote from your column. >> then -- yeah. >> you said ronald reagan's out, donald's in. you said his approach appears to be designed to creating new republican foreign policy that is much closer to the party's historical roots, distrustful of foreigners, alliance and treaties. this is back to basics? >> this is back to basics. the people forget the republican party and its roots were nationalist. and -- the great illinois, ohio senator in the 1950s voted against nato.
there was a long tradition of isolationism, of wanting quotas so that nonwhites and non-angelos couldn't enter the united states. in sense, this returns the party to that tradition. what's tragic here is that the great tradition of the republican party internationalism, openness to immigration, openness to trade, that's all gone. what's surprising to me, don is the republican establishment, republican leaders who all believe in what reagan set out, who believe that american security is strengthened by that, they're all quiet. they're all quiet while donald trump le is remaking the republican party, remaking the country's foreign policy. crepsing across europe leaving bewilderment, dismay and disillusion among the presidents. they're all silent and signed up to the new trump resolution.
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but democrats as well. >> i think he should cancel it but not because of these indictments. he was ill prepared before the indictments came out today. that doesn't change the fact that trump has no preparation before he went to europe to get ready to talk about syria or arm's control or any of the other issues on the table. he went to nato, barely talked about russia. went to the u.k., barley talked about russia. now he's walking into a room by himself with a guy who has years of experience at manipulation and he's unprepared. >> why is he doing that? >> he thinks he's smarter than everybody else. what does he not want a translator, note taker or his
own national security adviser to hear? he's thinking, okay, i can do this by myself. i know arm's control, i know syria. >> i may have born yesterday but i still went shopping. come on. steve, here's this one on one, watch this. >> i have been concerned for sometime that the president's ad hoc style of going into meeting and winging it is inappropriate, particularly when you're dealing with someone like vladimir putin whose been on the world stage for 20 years. he'll come in with his facts and maps and i'm afraid the president can be taken advantage of. >> putin is a trained kb gun control agent, with 16 years. trump is impulsive. what can trump expect sitting across a table from someone something like that vladimir
putin? >> it's truly interested to look at this from the russia angle. how is putin's approach going to be? how is he going to see trump? is it going to be, putin the officer and trump the asset? i don't think so. i think vladimir putin sees trump as his american oligarch. putin has this whole -- it's a similar type of situation we have with donald trump. when donald trump was having difficulties early in his career and no banks would lend him money, a lot of money were starting to come from n from places connected to russia. putin has all sorts of conversations, you got to build another stadium because world soccer cup's coming, i'll let you be a rich guy and now you've
got to do something for me. i think it'll be a similar dynamic with donald trump. pew tine knows he's given him all sort of money. i think donald trump if putin were to chose how he did that or let that leek, it will be bad for donald trump. that's what i think is going to happen in part of the meeting one in one is around. that's how i think putin is going to approach this meeting with his american oligarch. >> sandy, you were saying lack of preparation. what type of preparation goes into a meeting like this? how much is prep work and how much is gut? >> it's mostly prep work. you don't follow your gut went you're going in with someone like this. under those circumstances you normally star prepping months in
advance. you have situation room meetings where you talk about where up your agenda to be, and to steve's upon, what the intel analysis is and what your adversary are going to be thinking about you. that involves listening to your intelligence committee, listening to your security adviser, intensive meetings and briefings and really paying attention to the details on these complex issues. no one wants you to we think it on arm's control or syria. you need to know your facts and listen to the experts. >> yeah, these listen, we know that kremlin controls the russia media. with trump and putin in the room, can we trust reports coming out of that room? >> i don't see how we can. it's a self-inflicted wound on the part of the president. he must know that if he goes in one on one with putin and there's no orr americans there, that his detractors year in the united states or anyone el in the world is going to say, we know what that conversation was
about, couldn't have been fig good. why do that? it's not going to end well. you don't need a summit to discuss the issues that are out there with regard to syria, or with regard to, for example, missile control. those are things that can happen at an expert level. whether you offer up and give vladimir putin the presence of a sum, you're saying, hey we're on the same level, you're at power, that's what putin craves. it's a one for putin, and i don't see any win for the united states at all. >> i got ten seconds. >> i think it's a smart idea to have a president when you have a president who can prep. >> thank you very much, i appreciate it guys. the president and first lady meeting with the queen today. did president trump break protocol? we'll tell you what he did that has a lot of people up in arms. the new sleep number 360 smart bed.
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president trump and the first lady are in scotland tonight where they'll spend the weekend before heading to the summit with vladimir putin. before leaving england they met with queen elizabeth at windsor castle. there's the video right there. good evening, i'm so happy to have both of you here this evening. lots of questions. victoria i'll start with you. today was the big day for president trump as he met queen elizabeth. did he follow protocol? what did he do.
>> he did pretty well. it's the first time where i noticed donald trump appeared to be nervous. there were a lot of people speculated he was late to meet the queen, he was not. he was due at 5:00 p.m., 4:59 that motor cave was pulling in. he chez not to bow, melania didn't bow. and the queen wasn't offended by it. >> she fell a few steps behind the president before they -- before walking side by side, what do you make of that moment? >> that was a little awkward. load looked like mr. trump was about to go off and inspect the garden himself, the keen was right behind him. he stopped in place, almost like a robot and waited for her to join him by his side. >> the queen, maybe not so much -- >> well, i would not want to put words in the queen's mouth, but
i think that she looked like she want doing something that she was very accustomed to doing. she looked like it was sort of -- so to speak. she didn't look all that excited about it, but she looked absolutely polite. >> yeah. listen, president trump has made some cringe-wore think moments when it comes to certain women. he boasted that he could have sex with princess diana. he said -- the second tweet said, who wouldn't take kate's picture and makes lots of money if she does the nude sunbathing
thing. come on kate. victoria, do you think the queen is aware of these comments? >> she is definitely aware of it. i'm sure she was horrified but those remarks as she would have been by the "access hollywood" tape. her job today was to put on entertainment. she provided a day where the trumps' will enjoy forever. >> robin, it sound like you're agreeing with that. >> yeah, i think that's absolutely the case. i think in many ways the first lady was there doing the same thing. she was there to present and gracious and classy elegant face for the american people. on this trip, she didn't have a
lot of words but her presence was very symbolic. i think she approached that role in a very thoughtful and meticulous way. >> i want to talk about your piece today because you write about melania on this trip. robin, it says nothing else melania wears ever be matter again. you talked about that jacket she wore at the border, i really don't care, do you. how does that fare over? >> i think after wearing a jacket like that, which we were told to take at face value and not to read anything into it, i think then you have to constantly say, well, if she doesn't really care, then, you know, why should we take to heart anything that she does publicly?
and part of that certainly has to do with the way that she uses clothes and symbolism. the choices that she made. i think one of the choices was in wearing calvin klein in belgium. it's an american brand. i think there was real residence there. he talks a lot about the american dream in his work. for all of the subtexts in that choice, we were told very loudly, i don't really care. and, i think that it leaves us wondering, well what kind of soft diplomacy, what kind of fashion diplomacy are you actually trying to engage in, and how should we take your presence there? >> how does that play overseas, robin, especially in england -- >> people were horrified. melania trump is using her fashion in the way the royal family does.
she arrived in dublin wearing irish green. they use their fashion to pay transcribe, to send a message because they often don't have a voice to do that. melania wearing that jacket, i think everyone in the u.k. reacted the way they did here. her mind was blown she would do something so insensitive when she's known for using her fashion to use her voice. >> very quickly, robin, is she in a unique position, melania trump? >> she is in a unique position because her husband is so polarizing. she also has a unique opportunity, she could use that position and use the symbolism of that position to try and mend some of the separations and try to pull people together.
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a bombshell in the russia meddling probe. the special counsel indicts 12 russian military officers. we'll have the details. plus thousands in london protest the u.s. president's visit to the uk as mr. trump prepares for his meeting with russia's president vladimir putin. also ahead this hour, a violence campaign in pakistan, voters there preparing to go to the polls. live from cnn world headquarters in atlanta, i'm george howell. "cnn newsroom" starts right now.