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them all. who would think. >> state of the union special coverage live from helsinki continues right now. hello, i'm jake tapper leave from helsinki with a special edition of state of the union. behind me finland's presidential palace. the site of the summit between president trump and vladimir putin. the stakes are high after friday's indictments in the russian election interference investigation. in a new interview this weekend, president trump set a rather low bar for success at the summit. >> nothing bad is going to come out of it. and maybe some good will come out but i go in with low expectations, i'm not going with high expectations. i don't -- i don't really -- i can't tell you what's going to happen. >> tomorrow's summit of course comes just three days after president trump's own justice department charged 12 russian
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military intelligence officials with hacking into the systems of the dnc and the hillary clinton campaign to interfere in the u.s. election. few think such an attack could have happened without president putin's direct knowledge and approval. these charges were brought as part of the robert mueller's investigation. president trump was briefed by the indictments earlier in the week which means he knew about them when he said this on friday. >> i think that we're being hurt very badly by the -- i would call it the witch hunt. i would call it the rigged witch hunt. i think that really hurts our country and it really hurts our relationship with russia. i think that we would have a chance to have a very good relationship with russia and very good chance -- very good relationship with president putin. >> so the u.s. government looking into the russian cyber attack on the united states is hurting the impact of u.s./russian relations. let's bring in kaitlan collins.
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what do we know about the president's mind set heading into the summit? >> we know for the past 24 hours president trump has been at the golf course in nearby scotland meeting with aides and advisers preparing for the summit as well as doing a little golfing. he had a phone call with benjamin netanyahu who met with vladimir putin in recent days. one thing we haven't seen from the president is a critical statement of vladimir putin of the russians in light of those indictments of those 12 russian intelligence officers who attacked an american election. instead the president focused on barack obama noting this happened when he was in office and saying as much on twitter. but nothing critical of vladimir putin who is going to meet with and so far, jake, the white house resisted calls from democrats and even a few republicans to cancel this summit in light of those indictments. instead, president trump is preparing for it. he'll be heading to helsinki soon. in the interview clip you just played. the president was asked what his
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goal for the summit with vladimir putin is going to be. he said he would let us know afterward, jake. >> kaitlan collins, thanks, we invited the white house to join us to offer their perspective on the summit. the white house confirmed an interview with national security adviser ambassador john bolton. we arranged our show and schedules and crews accordingly. then the white house cancel the the interview for bad behalf yor. what was the quote disrespect the white house took issue with? nine minutes after president trump attacked cnn unprompted during a press conference in the uk, our correspondent tried to ask the president a question. >> john roberts, go ahead, john. >> can i ask -- >> no, no. john roberts go ahead. cnn is fake news. i don't take questions from fake news. cnn is fake news, don't take questions from cnn. john roberts from fox, let's go to a real network. >> we're a real network too, sir. >> we're told that ambassador
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bolton was prepared to do the interview and invite him to join us at any time. i want to bring in mark warner from virginia, the top democrat on the intelligence committee. senator, thanks so much. i want to play what president trump said this morning -- >> jake, first of all -- >> yeah. >> jake, let me make clear, i'm not afraid to come on cnn so even if the white house doesn't want to send someone, i'm happy to be on your show. >> we appreciate it, sir. i want to play for you what president trump said about the 12 russian military officials indicted. let's take a listen. >> this was during the obama administration. they were doing whatever it was during the obama administration. i think the dnc should be ashamed of themselves for allowing themselves to be hacked. they had bad defenses. and they were able to be hacked but i heard they were trying to hack the republicans too. but this may be wrong, but they had much stronger defenses.
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>> senator warner, obviously the russians are responsible for russian actions but looking at the indictment and everything we know now about the russian election interference, in retrospect, shouldn't president obama in his administration done much more? >> jake, our committee will allay o layout what the obama administration and fbi should have done or shouldn't have done shortly. but the basic facts remain. the reason why we have difficult relations with russia is not because of the mueller probe but because russia intervened in our elections. they hacked into the democratic national committee and hacked into hillary clinton's team. they interfered in over 20 states electoral systems. they used social media in ways that were unprecedented. this was a full-on assault on our democratic system and matter of fact, as the intelligence committee assessment made and our committee reaffirmed, they
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did it with the intent of helping trump and hurting clinton. that's the reason why we have difficult relations with russia and i'm stunned that this president will not call out vladimir putin or russia's bad behavior. one of the things i'm most worried about, we need to have other americans in the room. vladimir putin is a trained kgb agent. he may come in with maps of syria, maps of ukraine and frankly, i think he'll take advantage of this president who we know doesn't do much prep work before these meetings. we need other individuals from his administration in the room so we know that at least someone will press the russians on making sure they don't interfere in future u.s. elections. as a matter of fact, this is not just happening with us. i'm meeting tomorrow with parliamentarians from across nato countries who have also been the victim of russian
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interest ter ven intervention. i wish we would have that same kind of attention from the president. >> well, with all due respect, you didn't answer my question, which is president obama did not do enough to stop this while it was going on in 2016. i think that seems obvious to anybody reading the indictments or reading the newspaper for the last two years. do you disagree? >> i think the fbi could have done more. as a matter of fact when the october 7th letter came out with the obama administration did point out the threat of russian interference, strangely enough it was the exact same day that both the podesta e-mails were hacked and released and same day of the famous so-called bush hollywood tapes. >> president trump was asked this morning by cbs if he would consider pushing for the extradition of these 12 russian military intelligence officials accused of hacking and interfering in the election. take a listen to his response. >> i hadn't thought of that but
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certainly i'll be asking about it. this is during the obama administration, they were doing whatever it was during the obama administration. >> so he says he hadn't thought about requesting the extradition of 12 officials. what do you want president trump to do when he meets with vladimir putin and the building behind me tomorrow? >> i don't think putin will probably deliver the 12 russian spies. but i sure as heck think the president of the united states ought to ask that these russian spies are actually released to the american government for american -- legal process to continue. they attacked our government. let's take mueller investigation in full over 30 indictments, five guilty pleas and we still have whole questions around obstruction of justice and the various people part of the trump campaign who are now cooperating with the government to see whether there was absolutely collusion. these are still questions mr. mueller's investigation have to answer and i just wish the one
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thing that president would stop doing was stop calling this a witch hunt. this has been a very productive investigation that put further proof to the facts around the russian intervention in our elections. >> after the indictments were issued, michael hayden, president's former cia director said that the next indictments he anticipate when they come will likely name american citizens. take a listen. >> the more this goes, the richer in detail we get, the more i begin to believe that we're probably going to see a widening circle here of people becoming involved. i would not be surprised if this were not the last indictment we see that doesn't mention an american. >> the anticipated indictments of american citizens next.
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>> jake, i'm not sure what mr. mueller is going to do next. i do know we have in the public domain, the fact that russian agents reached out to mr. papadopoulos, a trump campaign official. we know that russian agents met with trump's son, his son-in-law and his then campaign manager to try to offer dirt on hillary clinton. we know from the indictments that mueller put out on friday that the very day that mr. trump called on the russians to try to hack into the clinton e-mails, well, russian spies actually that day did try to attempt to hack into russian -- hack into the clinton campaign. so i would not be surprised at all if whatever is coming next from mr. mueller might end up involving americans. let's face it, there are a number of individuals from trump's former national security adviser general flynn to his deputy campaign manager and others, who are cooperating with
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the government. i don't know what that cooperation involves but i believe we have not seen the results of all of that work yet. >> let me ask you, do you have any hesitation criticizing president trump while he's overseas giving the old adage that politics should stop at the water's edge? >> listen, i'm saying that mr. trump and to his white house, let's make sure we put more people in that meeting with vladimir putin, a trained kgb agent. we need to make sure that the americans for that matter the world gets a straight story of what happens in that meeting. let's also examine the fact that this is a president throughout the last week who is basically treated our allies like adversaries in ways that where i believe were totally inappropriate and continues to treat adversaries and tries to act like they are friends. i don't believe that is in the best interest of making america safer. >> the indictment also outlines russian government hackers targeting political committees
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in campaigns as well as voter software and state voter registration systems in 2016. the intelligence community has been unanimous in warning about similar attacks in november's mid-term election, the u.s. imposed sanctions as punishment. do i think these sanctions are simply not working, and is the u.s. ready for the mid-term elections, ready to have these elections without interference? >> well, jake, i think there's more to be done and i'm very proud of our senate intelligence committee where we've got bipartisan legislation that would actually improve election security. i'm proud of the fact that congress acted to put out $380 million of additional funds so that states could upgrade their voting machines, so there actually is a paper trail. in a normal administration, in a normal administration, because elections touch federal state and local, there would be someone designated out of the white house on election security to make sure there's better
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coordination. because as you mentioned, even the trump election -- intelligence officials have said russians will be back. i think it's an embarrassment that this white house has not made election security a top priority and has not put the kind of attention and focus on it that we need. the truth is, i'm not sure we're fully prepared. we had hearings just this past week where we brought in the -- some of the vendors who control three vendors control 90% of all of the i.t. systems that deal with the voter files. i think we need to do more education and state and local level. again, a normal administration, this kind of election security coordination would be done out of the white house. but as trump's own intelligence officials have indicated, there's been no signal from the white house that election security in 2018 should be a priority. >> you raised president trump's behavior at the nato summit. the nato secretary general has said that president trump has
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had success in pushing u.s. allies to spend more on defense, which has long been a charge of u.s. presidents. take a listen to this exchange. >> there was accused in that generation -- >> why was that last year? >> also because of your leadership, the message and -- >> they won't -- >> i have said it before but the thing is that it really has -- your message is having an impact. >> that's u.n. secretary general stoltenberg, crediting president trump with getting u.s. allies to chip in more. isn't it fair to say his strategy here is working? >> well, jake, clearly i think other nato countries should chip in more. that's been a goal of american through democratic republican adds mrgs mrgs for decades.
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at the end of the day we'll see if it happens. this president has a tendency to make bold statements after meeting and there may or may not be results afterwards. let's go back to the president's photo op opportunity with kim jong-un. after that meeting he said if i remember correctly, that he tweeted that americans can sleep soundly because north korea is no longer a nuclear threat. well, we've clearly seen that declaration was not true in terms of the follow-up meetings and in terms of our own intelligence assessments that north korea has done nothing to denuclearize. the proof will be in the pudding. let's see if the european countries actually step up and spend more. i would be very -- i would be pleasantly surprised if that proves to be the case. >> senator mark warner, the top democrat on the senate intelligence committee. thanks for your time. the putin perspective, how is is the president prepping for tomorrow's summit and what's it like to be in a room face to
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finland. you can see the presidential palace tomorrow, where tomorrow's historic u.s./russia summit will take place. president trump will be the fourth president to face off with vladimir putin who first took office in new year's day in the year 2000. my next guests spent years studying the russian president, a prize winning journalist and susan glasser, the first years in office as the "washington post's" moscow bureau chief and now works for david at the new yorker and ambassador nicholas burns, veteran diplomat taken part in several rounds of negotiations directly with president putin. my thanks one and all to all of you. i want to start with you, david, set the stage for us. putin has been watching trump criticize nato all week, saw these indictments go down on friday. what do you think is going through putin's mind and how is he likely to be interpreting president trump's behavior? >> he's delighted. he's absolutely dlied. it's important to think what does vladimir putin want here?
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vladimir putin is the authoritarian leader of a country that's struggling and used to be in a cold war struggle with the united states where there was a kind of global conflict between united states and old soviet union. that no longer exists, what does he want? he wants to reassert russian strength on the global stage. he wants to throw the united states off balance and he wants to divide the united states with its allies. mission almost accomplished. if you look at the last week -- you saw the united states president berating a humiliating the trans colchancellor of germg the same to the prime minister of england and completely ignoring indictments against 12 operators of the russian military intelligence. it is -- he is succeeding on the world stage with a very weak hand. >> susan glasser, let me bring you in. you spoke to 16 u.s. former
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government officials worked with every president about preparations for the summit. they also said there's no historical precedent for the meeting that's going to take place. you write, quote, republicans and democrats alike were resigned to trump being outplayed by putin, a former state department official spent decades said our guy here is like an amateur boxer going up against muhammad ali. what could vladimir putin do in this meeting? he doesn't have jedi mind tricks. >> i thought that was an interesting observation but a lot of people have said that implies that president trump is -- uses this as a boxing match which perhaps he does not. many think president trump who personally sought this meeting, his goal in fact is to have a much more friendly encounter with president putin. he said that just the other day while he was busy bashing our allies as david pointed out. he was also saying he would like to make friends some day with vladimir putin.
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but i think the thing about president putin to understand, he's a former kgb officer. he is the exact opposite in many ways of donald trump when it comes to a meeting like this. he's not about winging it. he's not about just following his gut. i was at the first interview that president putin had with american correspondents back in 2001 after george w. bush looked into his soul, remember that one? >> yeah. >> the thing that really struck with me then, this was a guy who had literally read and almost mo memorized his briefing books. he's careful and methodical and knows what he wants but arguably he's already gotten what he wants, the meaning itself, being welcome back onto the world stage after illegally an nexing the crimean peninsula. >> you've been in meeting with vladimir putin. tell us about your firsthand impression? >> well, putinleader in the wor
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today. he's been in power fore18 years. he's very smart and well organized, it's obvious had he prepares for the meetings and tends to go down layers deep on these issues and not at all superficial. he can be very aggressive, one way to look at the big issue for tomorrow, jake, is that putin fired the opening salvo in a new cyber war against the united states two years ago. there has not been a response by president trump. there's been no acknowledgement of it, no pushback by the president. no warning to putin. and i think that's the big question for tomorrow, can the president finally respond. putin is going to be prepared. >> david, let me ask you, how do you explain this fact? how do you explain the fact that president trump has never criticized vads m criticized vladimir putin, the same way for instance he's gone after the cast of hamilton or me or chuck todd. how do you explain he has yet to
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acknowledge russian interference firsthand or say anything about the indictments in terms of condemning russia? >> he must see you, jake as a greater threat to global stability than vladimir putin. it's inexplicable. i'm not ready to leap to the conclusion that somehow that somehow that this is a meeting between a controller, kgb controller and his agent. that i think is leaping way beyond the evidence. but i do think that it is -- the combination of -- you have a president of the united states interested in one thing above all, that's domestic politics. domestic politics. and he is playing right into the hands of vladimir putin. he is dividing his own country. he is dismissing threats to his own country when it comes to russia. he is completely misreading what's going on in the globe. all to create greater and
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greater support among his base. he's creating a hero out of vladimir putin among a kind of cultural conservatives. this inexplicable to me. you know, what donald trump does on a day to day basis, we struggle to explain on programs like this or new york or new york times or wherever, there are some days where you have to throw up your hands and say what the hell is going on. that's what leads part of the deep suspicion against him, it is sometimes beyond explanation. but the effect -- >> use an glasser. >> effects on our foreign policy are deeply, deeply key instructive. >> susan glasser, i want to show some images from a meeting that president putin had with angela merkel in shows how he uses power plays to exert dominance, well known for his handshake, does this kind of thing. look at the images, angela merkel has a well known fear of dogs and this is in 2007,
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russian president vladimir putin bringing his dog which looks like a stands in for kujo to a meeting with merkel. look at her. she looks terrified do we expect he could try to do something like that. obviously he's not going to bring his dog to helsinki, but he could do something like that with president trump? >> look, i think both putin and trump have gone out of their way to suggest what they want is not pictures of each other cowering in fear but quite the opposite. this is a summit that was arranged by both of them with the goal of making nice. remember it was donald trump who invited president putin to have the meeting back at the famous do not congratulate phone call in march when he actually did congratulate president putin for his re-election victory. actually -- >> re-election victory in quotes. >> what's really interesting, va vladimir putin spent months, encouraging him to schedule the meeting. they have taken the position
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it's donald trump versus his own advisers and american establishment, i guess that would be people like you and me as well as many senators in donald trump's own party who are very suspicious of president putin. they have been the party of cold war hawks up until now. and so it's almost this political reversal that you have going on and so putin -- he doesn't want to scare donald trump with a dog, but i think he's going to be very well prepared to get in to donald trump's well known love of flattery and pomp and circumstances, trump is willing to praise those who praise him. there's no question in my mind that vladimir putin is well aware of that heading into this meeting. >> that's all the time we have for this segment, hurricane donald barrels through and questions the allies. stay with us.
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i want to bring about the tweet in which he talked about trying to set up a partnership with vladimir putin. if we can put the tweet up, he's talking specifically about forming an impenetrable cyber security unit so hacking and many other things will be guarded. 12 officers indicted with a cyber attack on the united states. >> thank you for bringing that tweet back up. i think it does undercorps that nothing has happened since then and in fact things have gotten a lot worse. we have should be focusing more on what the director of national intelligence dan coats said, a former senator from indiana and presidential appointe. he said we're at the critical point in attacks on infrastructure. we've been attacked daily by countries, russia, china, north korea and iran, those are wonderful friends of ours,
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aren't they? said russia is the number one and most aggressive at all in attacking us. red lights are blinking and said ever since putin was put in charge of russia, like the russian bear was coming out of its cave. it's a bear that is hungry and clawing for more territory and more influence. that's what we need to be focusing on. not just sort of brushing it aside and letting bygones be bygones, he must bring that into the conversation with putin. >> phil mudd he also suggested that the blinking lights were going off in terms of cyber attacks attacks akin to the way they were getting warning signs before 9/11. >> we're seeing not only from intelligence but also from the department of homeland security and the president characterized this as an obama problem. we saw that this week, talking about continued russian efforts to go against u.s. social media. i think that the most bizarre thing about all of this, is that
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nato has been -- one frt foundations of nato is predictability, it led to trust and deployments with the united states and afghanistan and in this age, you would expect the president to go into conversation with theresa may and say you're the one who should be partnering with us and our europeans to figure out how to defend not only physically against russia but also in cyber space. instead he says theresa may, let me tell you how to negotiate brexit and vladimir putin is the one not only attacking us but is the potential partner. it's upside down, jake. >> one other thing that's interesting, susan glasser, if you look at the trump summit in singapore with kim jong-un, north korean dictator and according to the u.s. government, according to the trump administration, there's been no progress in terms of the north koreans dismantling their nuclear weapons infrastructure, still on july 9th, president trump wrote on twitter, i have confidence kim jong-un will honor the contract we signed and more importantly our handshake. we agreed to the
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denuclearization of north korea. skeptics of president trump and singapore say he got played and there's concerns that could happen here. >> look, it is my view that president trump is a much better deal breaker than a deal maker so far in the presidency. he's withdrawn from the iran deal and iran from tpp, the trade agreement and other things like it. what's amazing about this summit is that there's no actual agenda. there's very little preparation. it was hastily called. many ways there's less preparation even than the trump/kim summit. we knew what was on the agenda there, the north korea nuclear program. it's not clear exactly what it is president trump hopes to get out of this. i think that david and phil are making an important point about what doesn't seem to be on president trump's agenda, he's coming from a nato summit in which the official official kmu suggested letting no --
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maintaining the sanctions on russia because of its illegal an nexation of crimea and strong concern about cyber war -- president trump doesn't seem to agree with the policy of the own government or nato alliance. who knows what they'll do. >> john kirby, you used to work at the state department and used to work at the pentagon. these are organizations and agencies and departments that know full will what vladimir pu putin has been doing to the world and united states. what do you think? >> they are frustrated quite frankly in both places because if you look at the national security establishment, there has been significant pushback on some russia, the sanctions and kicking out of diplomats. you heard coming out of brussels, 100% committed to nato. it's harder for them to do the day to day work at working
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levels with their counterparts when they hear the president under mine them the way he does and way he probably will do tomorrow. >> everyone stick around, we have a lot more to talk about. president trump bringing the hard line rhetoric with him to europe, saying can't such as france and germany are losing their culture. what exactly does he mean? stay with us. (vo) this is not a video game. this is not a screensaver. this is the destruction of a cancer cell by the body's own immune system, thanks to medicine that didn't exist until now. and today can save your life. ♪ ♪ who says summer gets all the fun? not us. because southwest has $69 one-way sale fares for travel throughout september and october. so you can fill the rest of your year
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i think what's happened to europe is a shame. i think the immigration allowing the immigration to take place in europe is a shame. i think it changed the fabric of europe. and unless you act very quickly, it's never going to be what it was and i don't mean that in a positive way. i think you're losing your culture. >> losing your culture. president trump bringing his immigration rhetoric and views
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to the united kingdom as europe faces crisis of its own. will the president's world view find an audience here in europe? let's bring back the panel. john kirby, when you hear an american president in the uk tell them that they are losing their fabric, losing their culture, what do you hear? >> i hear zeen phobia and it's entirely inappropriate for a united states to say that in a foreign country. i think it's appropriate to even say that back home, and the other thing that bothers me when i heard. largely of because of what's going on, syria and middle east, the administration has done nothing to bring a political solution to the civil war and and -- >> the response to the tweet from former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, samantha power was quote, this dog whistle is so loud, you can hear
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it all the way across the atlantic. the president's critics say that he's echoing the words and rhetoric of white nationalists. >> this is not about culture. this is about race. i guess if we don't want immigration in the united states we get rid of little italy and irish -- mexicans out of the southwest and rid of asian americans out of the west coast and my hometown which was revitalized by cubans, they've got to go home too. >> the difference he's talking about and i see this as a white guy, it's brown people and black people going into europe, people from embattled states in africa and syria conflict. if we want to talk about this straight, we shouldn't talk about culture. we ought to talk about race. it's a rich guy from manhattan saying i don't like people coming in who don't look like us. >> is that what you hear? >> i think talking about immigration is legitimate. it's a difficult problem for most countries. what goes beyond the bounds is taking a view for and about the europeans. i think most americans would
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rather have him spend time reuniting families back there and dealing with the immigration problem than -- and the dog whistle here that's really objectionable, it's not just a white nationalist in the united states, it's the white nationalist in europe. and part of the problem with europe is having is that the president keeps appealing to the far right, the steve bannon types in europe. that is unsettling and under mines the authority and of government that have been close allies of ours, especially in germany and the uk. pointing out earlier, the president has taken aim in this trip at two countries led by center right parties. >> u.k. and germany. >> and for republicans to turn on center right parties when they've been friends in the past has been startling. >> steve bannon in london with something of a pro-nationalististic war room, not only encouraging president
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trump but also talking up some of the figures in the uk and elsewhere who are on the hard right. >> that's right. i think that steve bannon and also donald trump have this vision of a white wing populist nationale and see europe as a partner. he sees immigration as a key and bashing immigrants as a key to his own political success and also that of those he wishes to encourage here in europe. and you know, that's something else he has in common with vladimir putin by the way, who has always had a strong tone of xenophobia, both inside russia and now he's sort of become a hero of the far, far right wing in europe as well. trump and putin have that in common too. but i was struck by watching the coverage, watching some of the comments, trump is still shocking to europeans across the political spectrum in a way that
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we who have been living with this new politics in the united states and the constant untruth from the president of the united states, constant demagoguery, this is not something to say the least that's normal in world affairs. and these are our close allies and partners, these are conser e conservatives angela merkel and crease is a ma theresa may. it may tell us a little bit about america and how we've gotten used to donald trump. >> one of the things john kirby was interesting, the interview gave to a murdoch paper, called it fake news and they said it's just an interview and here's the audio. >> if it doesn't -- if the sound bite, whatever it is, comes out doesn't accord with whatever his narrative what he wants out that moment, it's ought malticalauto news. to call a murdoch owned paper
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it but she didn't listen to me. >> reporter: -- first lady melania trump spent the afternoon at a belgian music school, listened to classical music, and in london went long bowing and looked at arts and crafts. perhaps never more than this european trip has the juxtaposition of president trump's fiery rhetoric -- >> germany is a captive of russia. >> reporter: -- and melania trump's activities differed so vastly. but this is what first ladies have done throughout history. as their husbands go through the murky waters of foreign politics, the first ladies engage in diplomacy. she talked to is school kids
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about her "be best" initiative with phillip may, who bought a new suit for the occasion. or quietly observing protocol for her first ever meeting with the queen of england. her husband awkwardly trying to do the same. melania trump is demonstrating her comfort on the world stage, able to sidestep the bombshells set by the president and practice a different kind of diplomacy. we will see melania trump in helsinki tomorrow, she's having tea with the first lady of finland. we'll feel her presence for the last leg of the trip. >> thank you, kate bennett. that's all for us now. coming up next on fareed zakaria, the journalist who interviewed putin last year.
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