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because it is all a big hoax, that's why. he thought hillary clinton was going to win. this comes after trump's stunning words on monday refusing to call out russia's interference while standing right next to vladimir putin. that triggered bipartisan outrage forcing the president to issue a clarification. watch. >> all i can do is ask the question. my people came to me, dan coats came to me and some others said they think it is russia. i have president putin. he just said it is not russia. i will say this. i don't see any reason why it would be. i said the word would instead of wouldn't. the sentence should have been i don't see any reason why it wouldn't be russia. so just to repeat it, i said the word would instead of wouldn't and the sentence should have
been and i thought it would be unclear on the transcript or unclear on the actual video. the sentence should have been i don't see any reason why it wouldn't be russia, sort of a double negative. >> i want to bring in right now ryan nobles. the president's latest tweet not only does he again appear to side with vladimir putin that the russia investigation is all a big hoax but he asks why he wasn't warned about russian interference. the fact of the matter is he was warned. >> that a absolutely rigis abso this is almost like you are on a tilt a whirl. you can't get your bearings because there are so many inacureacies and the president is contradicting his own statements. there was a moment during the campaign in august of 2016
shortly after president trump had captured the republican nomination where he had a briefing with intelligence officials where they specifically laid out their suspicions that russia was attempting to meddle in the election. the president knew about this while it was happening. for him to suggest that president obama had this information and was sitting on it and didn't bother to tell him because president obama thought it was a hoax just doesn't make sense. the point that you already made, this is once again the president contradicting his own intelligence community by suggesting that their intelligence is nothing but a hoax. >> thank you. joining us now to discuss further associate editor and columnist for real clear politics and cnn media correspondent. let me start with you. this tweet tonight shows we really have no reason to believe that the president believes his own intel agencies over putin's
version that this is all a hoax. >> often when he is forced to back down as you did in the clarification changing the two letters he will reverse course back to his original position and double down even though people advise him against it. we know this is what he has always characterized this as, some kind of made up thing that is an excuse for the democrats because they lost the election, that there was no meddling. this is an interesting -- the tweet implies that obama failed to do something real about real meddling. the meddling isn't real. once again it is reversing course, having to clear his comments. you heard congressman gowdy saying the president has to stop equivocating on this issue. all of the senators and congressmen in his party this week were saying that the
russian meddling was real, the intelligence community findings are authentic and the president needs to support them. lindsey graham was saying this morning on meet the press that he has to come out and lead an effort to stop the meddling in the 2018 elections and the president is not playing ball on this issue. >> not only is it about whether russia actually interfered in the election, but he speaks a mistruth when he says in his tweet that he wasn't warned at all about russia's interference because as ryan just reported, he was warned. in fact, we know that. do you think that this fact-based reporting, the fact checking the media is doing is the main reason the president continues to attack the media? >> that is my educated guess. there has been a weekend full of criticism of the president for his performance in helsinki.
we know he has been watching at least some of it as he was heading back to washington. that is the best explanation for why he would post this kind of bs. we know the president was briefed. we know he is well aware of the truth on these issues. we know he was presented with a bunch of evidence in january 2017 of the russian attack. he is well aware it's not a witch hunt and a hoax but feels compelled. i think it is insightful because it shows true colors and how he really feels. the clean up and walk back, it was always bogus. now it is clearly bogus. as we head into a new work week this story is front and center. the president's loyalty, his issues about russia, his relationship with putin. all of this is back front and center because he is calling it a hoax. i think it is mind blowing for a
united states president to be calling an attack by a foreign power a hoax. >> remember this moment when trump was asked if russia was targeting the u.s., he said no. >> thank you all very much. appreciate it. >> is russia still targeting the u.s.? >> thank you. let's go. make your way out. >> white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders argued the president wasn't saying no to that question. here is how she explained it. >> got a chance, president said he was saying no to answering questions. >> then he went on to answer more questions. who do you believe? what can we believe? >> sarah huckabee sanders basically said it is real -- the
russian threat is ongoing and they are working hard to stop election meddling this fall. they are not. there is definitely an effort underway that we are not going to know about by the intel community to combat this. that would be happening no matter what president trump was doing. in terms of leading an effort with vladimir putin to stop what was his directed attack on our elections through interference, he is not doing that. he has invited him to the white house right before the mid term elections while his intel community is acknowledged again and again and he has been briefed that this is a real threat and it will go on all summer and into the fall. so he is totally at peace with speaking to two separate truths in the same hour or day and having his administration continue to contradict what he
has said that very day. that is what we saw this week. >> it is clear that the president has found an ally with fox news. that's been consistent until the reaction following helsinki. watch. >> that was quite something, almost surreal at points. >> shameful, disgraceful, treason s. >> this is the time and the place for the president to look putin in the eye and say you will be punished for what you did in 2016 and don't think about doing that again. >> but he didn't and that is what made his performance disgusting. >> he should have defended us. he should have defended his own intelligence community. >> so there. you hear the strong con d condemnation. >> that shot came in the early
hours after the helsinki helsinki presser. by the next day president trump gave those supporters on fox a way to stay with him by saying i misspoke. it was a double negative. he gave them enough of an excuse to stay in his corner. we see the polls making clear most trump supporters are furchlly wifurchl -- partly with him. if president trump is going to get another interview he needs to be asked why are you calling this a hoax? where is your patriotism? >> thank you both for that conversation. we will continue to follow this breaking story. we'll be right back. but i am a. my life is here... [telephone ring] ahoy-hoy. alexander graham bell here... no, no, my number is one, you must want two! two, i say!! like my father before... [telephone ring] like my father before... ahoy-hoy!
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administration did warn about russian interference and it specifically warned trump. let's turn to cnn's senior political analyst. he advised four u.s. presidents both democrat and republican. always good to have your insights on all things politics. this week we had the president all week long trying to walk back statements he made in helsinki trying to make him appear more tough on russia. you probably remember the would versus wouldn't clarification and no didn't actually mean no. did president trump in this statement in his tweet tonight just throw his aides under the bus? >> he certainly reverted to both form and his earlier statements as if this last week was erased from his memory and he was going back to his oldies but goodies in calling it a hoax and a witch
hunt and the like. the good news is that whatever we in the fake news industry may say the president's approval ratings went up this week. the latest from the wall street journal has him up from 42 to 45. it is one of the highest numbers he has had since earlier in his presidency. it does give you pause when 80% of republicans continue to support the president and approve of his time in office. i'm not sure all of this we are seeing is sinking in very much. from the point of view of history in trying to have an objective look at this it is bewildering why the president would go back and call this a hoax when earlier in the week he accepted the fact that the russians had been seriously spying on us and it follows from that that it is totally legitimate to have a mueller investigation that is first asking the question how bad was the spying and then asking was
there collusion. those are two separate questions. i think the evidence is overwhelming in favor of the first which legitimizes the mueller investigation. >> what does dan coats do now? >> well, i know in his heart of hearts dan coats must be extremely torn. i think there are a lot of people in the national security arena who hope that he will stay. it's often a good thing to resign on principle. when we have this much uncertainty about government, this much of a disconnect between the president himself and his top advisers on national security and that disconnect extends well beyond dan coats. there are people who would argue very different things.
i hope he stays. and there may come a time what you normally do in this situation when you are really unhappy but the pressure is on to stay to help your country you determine three or four months from now we move on to other things. i can take my leave. i imagine he is closer to doing that than he has been anytime in the past. >> u.s. intelligence chiefs say russia is attacking or trying to attack our elections as we speak. is the president abdicating the responsibility to protect our democracy? >> i don't think i'm alone in believing that the white house is not treating the russian attacks with the urgency that they demand. after all, this is about cyber security in very large measure and the position of cyber adviser to the president is vacant. the fbi does not have the kind
of strength that they have had in the past on this. i think it is irresponsible to leave the country vulnerable especially with new mid term elections just on the horizon. if we go in with uncertainty about how secure we are, the losing side in november and it will be a losing side, will protest and say somehow things were tampered with. that is going to be especially true if the democrats fall short of taking back the house. you will find a lot of democrats who will feel we were cheated because the white house, this administration failed to take the necessary steps and failed to treat this with urgency and failed to stand up to putin and demand that it stop. there is a price of allowing him back on the big international stage. >> as always, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. coming up, sex, lies and audio tapes.
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i can't believe michael would do this to me. that is how president trump apparently reacted after learning his personal attorney michael cohen secretly recorded their conversations according to a source. at issue a discussion they had about paying a former playboy model who claims to have had an affair with trump before he was president. that tape is in the hands of the fbi.
that led the attorney for stormy daniels the adult film star to make this observation. >> of all the decisions that this president has made over the last 24 months, i think the decision to place michael cohen on an island and not take care of him and not keep him close will go down as one of the worst, if not the worst, decision that he made. >> joining me now, cnn contributor and trump biographer dan t . >> i protect mr. trump. that is what it is. if there is an issue that relates to mr. trump that is of concern to him it is of concern to me. i will use my legal skills within which to protect mr. trump to the best of my ability. >> michael, has trump
experienced anything like this before where a supposed member of his inner circle betrays his trust? >> i don't think he has. this is new territory for donald trump he served donald trump very well in pressuring people to treat him fairly and even give him the benefit of the doubt when he didn't deserve it. i have to say this is a method that donald trump actually taught to michael cohen. mr. trump was famous for recording almost every conversation so he shouldn't be surprised. i'm sure he does believe it. >> according to rudy jewgiulian
trump has talked about how much he likes recording. >> we solve a lot of problems with the good old recording instrument. >> this is a man who has weathered tabloid stories and other scandals over the years. has that made in cautious at all in talking to people about private matters? >> i think it has made him cautious when it comes to private matters especially now that he is a political person and a person of the united states. you won't find him in the way he might have in his offices. even then people on his office staff were engaged in arranging liaisons for him both when he was married and when he wasn't married. he was pretty indiscrete back then. this must be giving the president pause now is michael cohen has seen a lot, he has heard a lot, he has done a lot
on the president's behalf, much of which i think he would be embarrassed and maybe even endangered by should it come out now. so the president has to be very concerned about what michael cohen knows and what else he may have recorded. >> i'm not sure if you have had a chance to see the latest cover of "time" magazine. a lot of people have commented on this. it features president trump morphing into vladimir putin. it takes us from one to the other and combines the two. it is a digital morphing of sorts. what do you think president trump's reaction would be to seeing this? >> i think he is outraged. i think he is going to attack ti"time" magazine as fake news. it will harden his belief that everyone is against him. if you study the response around the world just about the only outlet that is criticizing this time cover is russia today.
so that almost gives us confirmation that there is something that they have in common. the president is not going to like this. vladimir putin isn't going to like it. i think everyone else recognizes that these two men have a lot in common. they both love dictators, they both want to wield power in a way that their predecessors didn't possess. >> michael dan toneio, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. coming up, rating his rivals. the president says he knows who he wants to battle for another four years but is joe the way to go in 2020? sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. stadium announcer: all military members stand and be recognized. no matter where or when you served, t-mobile stands ready to serve you. that's why we're providing half off family lines to all military. your neighbors. you like them.
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835 days and counting. the next presidential election might seem a long ways off, but the buzz surrounding which democrats might run against trump is building. cnn has a new definitive power list of ten possible challengers. >> let's run through. let's show the first. we are going least likely to be nominee to most likely. i want to pick here eric holder, the former attorney general, not the most likely candidate at the start of 2017 but he has been to early primary states and has talked about running against trump and he is someone who can carry that obama legacy. anoth you'll see bernie sanders which might be a little odd to some folks. why is bernie sanders who was the runner up to hillary
clinton, why is he fifth on the list? here is why. i think a lot of people will not want to relive 2016, democrats especially. i think that bernie sanders in some ways may be seen as a bit of the past, maybe a younger voice. you will have a lot of liberal voices in the conversation. does he get crowned in or not. let's go to the top three. at number three ckamala harris. she was attorney general of california before she was elected. she is writing a memoir that comes out in 2019. i wonder why she is doing that. very serious contender. number two, elizabeth warren. some people wanted the massachusetts senator to run against hillary clinton. she has given every indication she is going to run now. if democrats are looking for a
liberal voice that has fought the establishment it is probably elizabeth warren. number one is joe biden. you say joe biden? here is why. if you look at all past nominations the person who starts in front is almost always in the end mix there. joe biden is in front. he is ahead in national polling of the democratic primary, ahead in polls in new hampshire in the democratic primary and ahead of 17 points ahead of donald trump. joe biden's problem here is he is 74 years old. he is the former vice president of the united states. he is not exactly a new fresh face but very strongly well regarded by barack obama and those who work for barack obama and that does matter in the democratic primary. that is who we have as of now. >> thank you. joining us now cnn senior political analyst and editor for
the atlantic, good to have you with us. president trump is always weighing in on who he wants to face off with in 2020. in fact, here he is. >> who do you think your democratic opponent will be? joe biden says he will make his decision by january. >> that's a dream. joe biden ran three times and never got more than one percent. president obama took him out of the garbage heap and everybody was shocked that he did. >> what do you think of the president saying biden is his dream opponent? >> i think biden ran twice, actually. joe biden has real assets as a potential nominee and a couple of serious drawbacks. both sides of the ledger exemplify the choices. i think biden could be effective at being a reassuring figure for
center right republican leaning voters who are personally revolted by trump and are thus loosening their connection to the republican coalition. he is also someone who may be able to win back some of those blue collar voters in the midwest. on the other hand, he has two problems. one is that at 74 and given his history in the party he is by far not the first person you would pick to mobilize and energize the new democratic coalition centered on minorities and liberals and young people. and related to that is because of that the nomination fight will not be a simple pathway for him. he has issues from the '90s, the crime bill in 1994 was important politics for its time but it has not aged well in the democratic party. and of course he voted for the
iraq war. it is not a smooth path but he brings both assets and demerits as any potential nominee does. >> you also wrote a piece for cnn.com entitled there are absolutely two americas sometimes in the same state. let me read a quote. just as 2010 triggered an extended period, 2018 could do the same for democrats in white collar seats inside the largest metropolitan areas. i recall in 2010 is when you saw the beginnings of the tea party movement among republicans. what would a democratic movement be based on right now? >> i think there is a very strong possibility that regardless of who wins the majority in the house whether democrats get over the top or not we will come out of this election with the trench between blue america and red america looking deeper. in 2010 republicans swept out dozens of democrats in small
town and rural districts, many of whom had held the seats since the 1970s and 1980s. the floor boards have been riding underneath them and the discontent with president obama was too much weight to bear and we saw this republican dominance in small town america and the house established it has not been diminished in any meaningful way since then. that was the road map. he won the places that republican won in the house in 2010 and 2014. the flip side of that is a very real potential for this november. donald trump's approval rating among college educated voters especially women is almost as weak as obama's was in 2010. as a result if you look the democratic opportunities are proponderantly concentrated and the last republicans holding out in suburban seats that have been moving towards the democrats like the philadelphia, norlther
virginia, five in the l.a. media market, democrats have a tougher road where trump is still very strong. in the suburban seats you are seeing i think him crystallizing and accelerating what had been a long standing realignment away from the republicans. you could come out of this election with a democratic party that is dominant in all of the blue metro areas. and republicans still dominant beyond that and a really big trench between the two americas. >> fascinating stuff. we appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up from hurricane katrina to the war in iraq we are looking at challenges george w. bush faced as he ran for reelection. a preview of the series of the 2000s is next. . but while some push high commission investment products,
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today. >> the motion is adopted. >> we are rescued. >> we have acted boldly to help prevent the crisis on wall street from becoming a crisis in communities across our country. >> even though it is not conservative orthodoxy i think what they did in 2008 was the right thing to do to save the economy and i think they probably did prevent a wipe out of a tremendous number of people and the second great depression. >> cnn presidential historian is joining us now. as you know george w. bush took heat from all sides, a lot of heat from the bank bailout of sorts about the economy survived. >> the bush administration's response to the crisis of 2008 is a reminder that pragmatism can be a good thing for an administration. you know, we forget that we
don't just want a president who comes into office and does absolutely everything they campaigned on because sometimes presidents learn when they are in office and they learn some of the things they brought to the white house, some of their assumptions were wrong. and george w. bush explained back in 2008 that this is not the approach to the economy that he would normally endorse, but his advisers who were conservative for the most part were saying, mr. bush, if you don't do this we are going to have a financial disaster that will compare with the great depression. he therefore used our tax money to prop up our financial system. if you would have asked him in 2000 when running for office should the government do this he would probably say no. in 2008 he made the tough call and did it. >> even though it wasn't popular
at the time with his own party in particular. in 2004 there were major controversies going on. we had the war in iraq. it was dragging on, very unpopular at home. many democrats thought john kerry stood a very good chance. the 2004 the show tonight will remind you of two elements of that campaign that history will view him as a person much better than i think many americans thought of him. i'm not sure history is going to make his presidency look that much better, but as a person, he comes through as a better person. 2004 campaign was terrible. and it was terrible for two reasons. one, they attacked john kerry. there's no doubt that john kerry was a hero in the vietnam war. and become in the nixon
administration, nixon had gone to his dirty trickster and recruited somebody to destroy john kerry's credibility. he was a young guy part of something called vietnam veterans against the war. >> you're saying this is in the nixon administration. >> john kerry was, is, attractive and they wanted to destroy this man. and the same guys that participated in that nasty, dirty tricks campaign in the '70s, they came back in 2004 and did it again. instead of us says it's knicnix, it worked. george bush took advantage of the fact about people were confused about same-sex marriage. some states recognized it and he used that to pump upturn out in certain states. his lieutenant got state s s tot
same-sex marriage as a referendum on the billion lot. the goal was to get evangelicals to boat for bush and against same-sex marriage. they took a sensitive social issue and used it to divide. >> it's interesting because when you bring that up, it makes us think about what's happening with immigration right now. in this new administration. before i let you go, we have about 30 seconds left. you mentioned history will be maybe a little kinder to george w. we see his popularity on the rise right now. >> well, i'm not a psychiatrist, obviously. but when you look at his paintings of wounded warriors, you see a lot of pain. and i think that george w. bush understands the cost of the decisions he made. and i think that shows humanity.
i thibelieve the last two years his administration showed that this administration could get better and. there were course corrections. they did better things than iraq. once there, they had to do something like the surge. i think the way in which they started to change surveillance, it showed a better administration. so in that regard, they learned in office. >> thank you so much. i look forward to the episode tonight. it's the 2000s 9:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. coming up, the day the lights went out in the white house. >> i have a full faith in our intelligence agencies. whoops they just turned off the lights. that must be the intelligence agency. when i received the diagnoses,
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king of england turned 5 years old. p. look at this cutie. to mark the occasion, the palace released a new picture, which was taken. on the same dameday his brother was christened. finally tonight that moment when president trump was left in the padark, literally. here's jeanne most. >> it wasn't as dramatic as the time the lights came crashing down. while bill and hillary clinton were preparing for ab interview. but when president trump spoke it was as if the lights were listening. >> i have a full faith in our intelligence agencies. whoops, they just turn ed off te lights. that must be the intelligence agency. there it goes. okay. you guys okay? >> the president stayed calm, but twitter got excited. putin turned out the damn lights at the white house, read one
tweet. the intelligence community has spoken. even the president allowed it was strange. evangelicals, do you need anymore signs from a god, asked one critic. then the twitter account identifying itself as god chimed in. did you like it when the lights went out on him? that was me. but it's not the first time this has happened. >> so we put them in our jails. because to put them in our jails, they didn't pay the electric bill. i like that much better. >> then candidate trump lit up when the lights went off. >> chanting worked. nothing to do but make light of it. >> i have a full faith. in our intelligence agencies. >> jeanne moos, cnn, new york.
>> time for us to turn the lights off here. that's going to do it for me. thank you for spending part of your weekend with me. up next, a brnd new episode of 2000s followed by the history of comedy. have a great week ahead. >> the world without saddam hussein is a better and safer place. >> the war may us be officially over, butt violence rages on. >> congress must no longer follow him deeper into the quagmire in iraq. >> president bush fired an election year shot and cited an urgent need banning game marriage. >> hurricane katrina is bearing down on louisiana. >> where's the federal government? where are the troops? >>