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distraction. and it is the news of the day, very different among democrats, and soon thereafter, we move on 5% trust trump, 86% trust the to the next thing. so i'm not convinced that he news media. so, as far as the president and ever really intended to have a second meeting, but we sure have his base is concerned, he thinks been talking about it. >> so, before you go, i want to going after the press as the enemy of the american people is ask you about this. if this is important to the good for him. russian investigation. all right, guys. 30 members of congress, and i believe you're included in that, we're going to continue to watch this very disturbing story. congressman heck, have reviewed in the meantime, "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. what is largely unredacted copies of the carter/page fisa >> "outfront" next, trump puts materials, right, which are being hotly discussed. his second meeting with putin on the chairman of your committee, ice, just to save face? though, devin nunes, has not this as his secretary of state reviewed that, despite obviously is grilled on capitol hill having a strong opinion on it. today. do you know why? plus, the white house banning a cnn reporter from a >> do i know what? rose garden event. >> do you know why he has not what were they afraid of? reviewed it? and our special series on >> i have absolutely no idea, erin. but then again, i would be drinki drilling and mining in alaska. hard-pressed to explain an awful how president trump's election lot of his behavior in the last is giving new hope to one of the 18 months with respect to the most controversial projects in the nation. let's go "outfront." russian investigation. and good evening. it is a mystery to me why it is i'm erin burnett. that a member of the united "outfront" tonight, saving face. states congress, who raises his president trump responding to a snub from vladimir putin today right-hand and swears to uphold the constitution of the united by postponing his highly touted states isn't more concerned summit in washington. national security adviser john about what is now
bolton releasing a statement, well-established russian saying, quote, the president interference, not just in america's democracy, but on all believes that the next bilateral western democracies, as a matter meeting with president putin should take place after the of fact. look, the indictments that the russia witch hunt is over. so we've agreed that it will be special counsel, director after the first of the year. mueller, issued for the 12 uniformed members of the russian now, we don't know whether the russians have agreed to that or intelligence services is a master piece of criminal not, they haven't said. but after the first of the year investigation. and i confidently predicted it is a big change from this fall, will go down in the history which is what the white house books as such. announced on twitter. to be able to trace their names, so why is this meeting suddenly on ice? well, our jeff zeleny asked. recreate the paper trail, as it were, is brilliant detective >> mr. president, why did you work. nothing less. and you know what, erin? >> what? >> tomorrow's the 110th cancel the meeting with slvladir anniversary of the establishment put of the federal bureau of putin, sir? >> silence. and maybe the reason for trump's reticence is this. investigation. and for the president to continue to wage war against when putin got the invitation, the original one, a russian aide this federal law enforcement replied with a frankly office, it is a mystery to me. dismissive rsvp, saying of the >> congressman heck, i appreciate your time tonight. second summit, quote, not now. thank you. >> you're welcome. that was an embarrassing slap at >> and we have breaking news in just a moment. prosecutors leading the criminal president trump. >> why is vladimir putin not investigation of michael cohen, had no clue that that secret accepting your invitation? tape of president trump was >> come on. going public. >> mr. president? and that could be causing big >> thank you, everybody. problems for cohen tonight. a breaking development. >> let's go! >> come on, guys. and a cnn white house
>> we're done! correspondent banned from the we're done! let's go! rose garden today from an event >> why is vladimir putin not there. she was supposed to be the reporter there, the pool accept ying your invitation, mr reporter. and the reason she was banned is president? >> we're done! we're done! >> you saw president trump. this. >> did michael cohen betray you? are you worried about what is on he didn't look happy with those the other tapes, mr. president? questions. he moved quickly once putin >> those questions. what is the white house afraid dissed minimum. of? that is par for the course with and winning streak. two more women victorious in their runoff races for congress last night. should the president be worried? trump. remember north korea, the president originally canceling ♪ that meeting with kim jong-un when he reportedly feared that kim might be a no show. and then do you remember the philadelphia eagles white house visit? if you don't, here's what happened. the president pulled the plug on that meet and greet after a number of players turned down the president's invite. and remember trump's economic council? we do. he disbanded it last year, because, you guessed it, so many members were quitting over the president's response to the white nationalist attack in charlottesville that he said he was disbanding the whole thing. oh, but the reason trump is giving for putting the summit with putin on ice until, quote, after the first of the year, according to john bolton, you heard it, they're going to wait
until after the russia witch hunt is over. look, the use of the worz witch hunt -- words witch hunt, that's just the way it is from the trump white house. even though his top intelligence officials say it is a completely false thing to say. you shouldn't be rushed into booking a hotel. but it is interesting that team with expedia's add-on advantage, trump is yet again pugt a hard deadline on mueller. booking a flight unlocks discounts on select hotels it sure seems to be wishful thinking, because it was last until the day you leave for your trip. add-on advantage. august when trump's former only when you book with expedia. attorney, ty cobb said, quote, i would be embarrassed if this is still haunting the white house by thanksgiving. and worse, if it's still haunting him by year-end. now he is truly haunted. because when the investigation was still hanging over the white house after thanksgiving and after christmas and in january came this prediction. >> when do you believe this investigation will reach its omar, check this out. conclusion? >> there's no reason for it not uh, yeah, i was calling to see if you do laser hair removal. to conclude soon. >> what is soon? for men. >> well, soon to me would be notice that my hips are off the ground. within the next, you know, four to six weeks. [ engine revving ] >> eh, wouldn't have even been spring by the time that and then, i'm gonna pike my hips back into downward dog. happened. okay. well, safe to say their predictions have been pretty [ rhythmic tapping ] bad. and today the secretary of
state, mike pompeo, faced hey, the rain stopped. hostile questions about what -a bad day on the road still beats a good one off it. even happened in the first summit with putin. -tell me about that dental procedure again! never mind putting this whole -i can still taste it in my mouth! second one on ice. -progressive helps keep you out there. michelle kosinski is "outfront" on capitol hill for us tonight. and michelle, secretary of state wells fargo has supported community organizationsuth! from the beginning, pompeo coming under a lot of like united way, non-profits like the american red cross, fire today. he did, though, sound defiant. >> reporter: he did, erin. and our nation's veterans. this was contentious from minute we knew helping our communities was important then. one. and as a matter of fact, the republican chairman of the senate foreign relations and we know it's even more important today. committee started out with so we're stepping up to volunteer more criticism, saying he feels like the trump white house wakes up every morning and makes up and donate over a million dollars every day. foreign policy as they go. this was a chance for senators to finally get their questions so our communities can be even stronger. answered over what exactly was it's a new day at wells fargo. said between trump and putin in but it's a lot like our first day. helsinki, but pompeo, also with a snarky attitude for many of these questions, simply refused to give a clear answer. >> senator, i understand the game that you're playing. >> my question is to get to the truth. we don't know what the truth is. >> secretary of state mike pompeo still vague, at best, on i knew at that exact moment, whatever it takes, wherever i have to go...i'm beating this.
trump's summit with russian president, vladimir putin. >> has the president told you my main focus was to find a team what he and president putin of doctors that work together. discussed in their two-hour when a patient comes to ctca, closed-door meeting in helsinki? they're meeting a team of physicians that specialize in the management of cancer. >> the president has a prerogative to choose who's in meetings -- >> i asked you a simple breast cancer treatment is continuing to evolve. question. >> i have had a number of and i would say that ctca conversations with president trump and i think i have a very is definitely on the cusp of those changes. good understanding of what took place. >> good. did you speak to the translator patients can be overwhelmed ... we really focus on taking the time with each who was in that meeting? >> no, i haven't. individual patient so they can choose the treatment >> reporter: and on sanctions -- appropriate for them. >> did the president discuss relaxing u.s. sanctions on the care that ctca brings is the kind russia? >> senator, the u.s. policy with respect to sanctions remains of care i've wanted for my patients. completely unchanged. >> i asked a very specific being able to spend time with them, question. >> yes, senator, and i gave you have a whole team to look after them is fantastic. a very specific answer. >> did the president tell you that he discussed relaxing russia's sanctions or not? i empower women with choices. it's not just picking a surgeon. >> senator, the president is it's picking the care team, and feeling secure where you are. entitled to have private meetings. >> reporter: no answer. same on whether the president surround yourself with the team of called on putin privately to breast cancer experts withdraw from ukraine. and whether there were agreements on syria. >> do you know if there was any visit cancercenter.com/breast sort of downgrading of our u.s. appointments available now. presence in israel? i mean, in syria, that was discussed? >> senator, there's been no
change in u.s. policy with breaking news. respect to our activities in multiple sources telling cnn that michael cohen's decision to syria. i -- >> i understand. leak the tape of himself and but that's not exactly the donald trump could hurt his question. >> senator, it's what matters. chances of cutting a deal with prosecutors. >> reporter: the republican a former federal prosecutor from chairman of the committee, the southern district of new senator bob corker, had striking york telling cnn, quote, they'd criticism for the president and be very unhappy and, quote, they his administration as a whole. don't like to be part of any >> it's the president's actions part of media circus. this development coming as that create tremendous distrust president trump dodges questions in our nation, among our allies. about the tapes from cnn. questions about the tape where it's palpable. we meet and talk with them. trump and michael cohen, his is there a strategy to this? former lawyer, talk about the or is it -- what is it that payment for a former playboy model's story about her alleged affair with trump. causes the president to a tape made without the purposefully, purposefully president's knowledge, by cohen, create distrust in these and then released to the media institutions? by cohen. and what we're doing? here is our senior white house >> senator, i just -- i disagree correspondent, jeff zeleny. with most of what you just said >> mr. president, did michael cohen betray you, sir? mr. president? did michael cohen betray you, there. >> reporter: poempeo said he sir? mr. president, why did you wasn't answering these questions because these were private conversations. but one thing he did state cancel the meeting with vladimir putin, sir? clearly, he said president trump did michael cohen betray you, does accept the intelligence community's assessment that sir? did you mislead the american russia did interfere with the people, sir, when you said you 2016 election, that he has a
complete understanding of that. did not know about the payment? although that is something that trump himself refused to say when he was standing side by >> "outfront" now, former nixon side with putin. white house counsel, john dean, erin? >> all right. thank you very much, michelle asha rangappa, and audio expert, kosinski. and michelle, really giving us a sense of what happened there. paul ginsburg. he has 40 years experience in contentious. and "outfront" now, let's this area, including working on get to denny heck who sits on the o.j. simpson and waco cases. the intelligence committee. and congressman, obviously, you saw -- heard everything that john, let me start with you, went down today. moen moichael cohen appears to did you find secretary pompeo's answers, the way he chose to answer these questions or not officially turned on trump by releasing this tape. answer these questions, right? a trump he made of a man that he well, the policy is unchanged. said he would take a bullet for. it's sort of, who cares what the maybe he meant, shoot a bullet president may or may not have said and i'm not going to tell at. how worried should trump be? you that. >> well, i think there's good did you find that helpful? reason to be concerned. >> so i'm not at all convinced, this is -- michael is certainly erin, that secretary of state pompeo knows what was said in the process of turning there. towards state's -- becoming a and i think you could infer that from the basis of his vagueness. witness for the southern district, if they're inclined. i think, however, that americans should look at that hearing and you know, i think that he -- at least insofar as what i know there's, what, 4 million pages about it, and actually take some encouragement, if not inspiration from it. of records that were seized from because what you saw was members of the united states senate on that committee, republicans and michael cohen. about 3,000 of them were deemed democrats, liberals and conservatives, and everybody in to be attorney/client privilege.
between, asking hard questions there's a lot of evidence there. and i think there's a lot of reason for trump to be concerned of the secretary of state, about about all of those years and all this very important matter. in other words, they were that evidence. attempting to fulfill their >> asha, here's the thing. nobody looks good in this who's constitutional responsibility for oversight and to hold the involved with it. let me just be honest about president accountable for this that. but the president tweeted earlier today, in part, what kind of lawyer would tape a virtually unprecedented action. >> as you point out, it was client, so sad. democrats and republicans that is this a first? we just saw there, even in those never heard of it before. he has a point. clips, which michelle just lawyers are not supposed to do played. this, asha. look, to all of us, what what type of lawyer secretly happened in that meeting between putin and trump is a complete records conversations with clients and then releases them? mystery, right? because he didn't let anybody in. secretary pompeo, though, you're >> well, not a very ethical one, saying you're not sure he knows for sure. what happened. but today he said, oh, i'm it's definitely not a part of confident, i know. and here's how he put it. good professional responsibility to tape your client. >> a number of conversations and to release those with president trump about what transpired in the meeting. conversations. but, erin, donald trump is not a i was also president -- present when he and president putin both typical client. you know, one of his former gave us a sense of what they attorneys from back in the '90s, patrick mcgan, testified in a discussed in the meeting that deposition once that he always fo followed immediately after. i think i have a pretty complete met with trump with another attorney present, because trump understanding of what took had a penchant for a bad memory place. >> good, did you speak to -- and misstating what happened in
>> do you think he thinks he has a pretty complete understanding, those meetings. congressman heck, or do you so i think especially if there think that he is really -- may have been things going on really doesn't know and is just trying to put a good face on it? that otherwise lawyers wouldn't >> well, probably more the do either, i could see that latter, erin. but here's the deal. if, in fact, the president gave michael cohen may have foreseen him a complete 100% readout on that there might be a time when he would want to protect that meeting, then it really himself. >> well, interesting. begs the question, why wasn't when you talk about bad memory the secretary of state in that in meetings, you've got to meeting to begin with? wonder if that's what jim mattis because the fact of the matter, and mike pompeo are worried throughout all of history, that about, when they're getting is the norm, not the practical briefed by the president about of this president, which is to what happened with putin. can you trust out or not? meet privately. things like this tape actually meet privately with vladimir raise that question. paul, i want to play the key exchange on the tape, though. because what is said here could putin, shortly after having matter greatly, right, in terms stood on foreign soil and of whether there was a violation actually taking the autocrat of of campaign law, whether the president was trying to skirt the law. a hostile foreign power, mr. putin, over the word of his own cohen's lawyer, lanny davis, says trump said, pay them money intelligence community. so if, in fact, the secretary of for this playmate story in cash, state knows everything that went on there, then there would have which would imply he's trying to hide it and do it in an unclean been no reason for the president way. trump's lawyer, giuliani said, to keep him out, which would don't pay cash, check. have been the usual practice. >> so the white house announced so, um, that he wanted it today, congressman, you know, documented. we're talking about what happened in the last meeting, so these are night and day, opposite interpretations of the
but the proposed second meeting that was supposed to be this exact same piece of tape. fall according to the president so you slowed it down, and i is not going to happen this want to play what you did so year. they're saying it's being put on viewers can hear. ice until after the beginning of the year when the quote, russian >> so what are we going to pay, witch hunt is over. do you buy that excuse? >> so, i don't think the first funding? meeting should have happened, >> yes. given the context with where we and it's all the stuff -- all are with russia right now. the stuff. because here, you never know but secondly, i'm not at all where that company, never where convinced that there was ever going to be a meeting second he's going to be. meeting. you know, the president has a >> maybe he gets hit by a truck. >> correct. so i'm all over that. and i spoke to allen about it. when it comes time for the financing, which will be -- >> wait a sec, what financing? >> we'll have to pay -- >> pay with cash? >> no. no, no, no, i've got. >> pay with check. >> hey, don, how are you? >> okay, it's hard. cash, trump says, and then, no, no, no. i got it. is he questioning? what did you hear? >> it's hard to tell. i did hear trump say, "pay by cash." there's a little sound that he makes before that, about one
syllable. it doesn't sound like a word that would be like "don't." it sounds more like "more." it's a different kind of sound. but he does say "pay by cash?" and then cohen says, no. no, no, no, no. and it goes from there. >> i mean, john, i guess this is the big question here, when you hear this tape. could this explain why president trump waived privilege on the conversation. because you have experts even like paul, it doesn't assignmse there's a clear-cut answer of what was or what was not said. ultimately, this payment also to the best of our knowledge was never made. so is this trump -- i'm sorry, is this tape bad for trump or not? >> well, i think it is bad for him. and i think that's why they did release it. they didn't want to get into litigated the crime fraud exception, or hear any of the surrounding evidence about this conversation. but clearly, this is a conspiracy in progress, of some sort. to keep trump's name away from
the campaign. now, whether it's a campaign violation or not, i don't know. but there certainly is a conspiracy being cooked up here. i'm someone very familiar to listening to tapes about conspiracies. >> yes, as you say, you know all about how the tale of the tape can be the tale of how something goes, especially when it comes to the white house. i want to play the very tail end of that tape, though, because something happened there at the end, i don't know if you heard, viewers, but it was like a complete ending and another conversation starting. let me play it again quickly, that part. >> i spoke to allen about it. when it comes time for the financing, that will be -- >> wait a sec, what financing. >> we'll have to pay -- >> pay with cash? >> no, no, no, no. >> hey, donald, how are you? >> it cuts out quickly. lanny davis, cohen's lawyer, has an explanation as to why. here's what he said. >> i don't know mr. cohen has no
explanation. the phone either cut off or stopped recording. so we don't know why it suddenly got clipped off. >> do you buy that, paul? >> no. we're -- at the end of the conversation with trump and cohen and it goes into another recording that is -- that appears to be a telephone conversation. has the attributes of a telephone conversation. now, how it got there from the original to the copy to what was turned over, we don't know. but we didn't hear the end of the conversation between trump and cohen. and instead, we heard the beginning of another conversation. >> so could have been edited? >> absolutely. >> which obviously raises serious questions. and asha, you know, i also want to ask you about the reporting. sources telling us, prosecutors were caught off guard when cohen released this tape and that his doing so could hurt his chances to get a deal with prosecutors. could releasing the tape backfire for him, asha? >> i don't think so. he has -- he has good attorneys.
he has someone who is specializes in pr and a seasoned prosecutor and i would think that they would have gamed this out. now, it's not ideally what you want your client to do. if you're the southern district of new york, having somebody who's blabbing to the media is not somebody that is going to be, you know, you're going to have a lot of confidence in, as a cooperating witness. on the other hand, though, you know, it really depends on how much michael cohen has to leverage. and that may be of interest to them. >> all right. thank you, all, very much. john, asha, paul. next, our kaitlan collins, banned from a white house event today. because they didn't like the questions she asked the president. that's her job. and now the white house is responding. and our special series about the alaska wilderness and the trump administration's plans to possibly go ahead with the biggest gold mine on earth. >> in nearby cat mine national
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>> thank you very much. >> thank you, everybody! >> we're done! >> mr. president, are you worried about what michael cohen is going to say to prosecutors? >> let's go! >> let's keep going. >> are you worried about what is on the other tapes, mr. president? >> thank you, all. keep going. >> let's go! let's go! >> thank you very much. >> why has vladimir putin not accepted your invitation? mr. president? >> thank you, everybody. >> this way. >> let's go! let's go! >> thank you very much. >> let's go! we're done! we're done! let's go! >> why has vladimir putin not accepted your invitation, mr. president? >> let's go! we're done! >> okay, kaitlan is with me now. kaitlan, i've been trying to explain to everybody what pool reporter means. you were the reporter in with the responsibility of representing all of the media with the big questions of the day, which, of course, certainly first and foremost, those tapes that michael cohen put out there and the postponing of the summit with vladimir putin. after that event, the white house deputy chief of staff for communications, bill shine, a former fox news executive, called you into his office.
tell me what happened then. >> reporter: that's right, erin. to give a little background of what i was doing in there, i was the only reporter representing all of the networks there. so i wasn't just acting on behalf of cnn, but it's therefore all of us, so fewer reporters can go into a smaller venue like the oval office and still be able to pose questions to the president. this is a very regular occurrence. also, when there are these type of pool sprays, as they're referred to back a hehere at th white house, the president is asked questions quite often. and sometimes, a lot of the times, erin, he does answer those questions. but today the president did not. and we left the room after we were escorted out by those members of the administration. and then i, a few minutes later, or shortly thereater was called into the office of bill shine, the president's latest hire. we discussed what had happened. they said that because of a result of the questions that i posed to president trump, i would not be invited to the event in the rose garden. i was actually disinvited from that event that was open to all reporters, not as that oval office event was, that's an event open to all credentialed
media because of the questions that i asked and that they believed they were inappropriate and inappropriate for that venue. i reminded them that often these pool sprays are often the only time we are able to ask and to pose questions to president trump. now, he certainly has a right to not answer those questions. sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn't. today was one of those days where he didn't. but then it turned into a much larger event with the white house then saying that i would not be allowed to go to this event, to the rose garden, and every other reporter was allowed to go to. and then they denied to ban us from going to that event, simply because they did not like the questions that we asked president trump, which i should note, one of those questions about michael cohen is something that the president himself was tweeting about today. >> right. he did tweet about it, right? as we were just reading. saying, what kind of lawyer would do that, bad. he seemed happy to weigh in on it, on twitter. so, kaitlan, the white house has released a statement now about this whole incident and here's what they're saying. and i'll quote. at the conclusion of a press
event in the oval office, a reporter shouted questions and refused to leave, despite repeatedly being asked to do so. subsequently, our staff informed her she was not welcome to participate in the next event, but made clear that any other journalists from her network could attend. she said it didn't matter to her, because she hadn't planned to be there anywhere. to be clear, we support a free press and ask that everyone be respectful of the presidency and our guests at the white house. what's your response to this? >> reporter: i certainly agree that everybody should be respectful of the white house, the people here, and the president himself, as i was in my questions, quite respectful, ask the president. >> yeah, you clearly were. >> mr. president, here's the question. that is just simply how we do it here. that is pretty much an everyday activity. it is not anything out of the ordinary to ask the president questions like that, as i did during that event. once we were told to leave the room, you could see on the video there, all the reporters do that, and leave the room. and then i should note that at the event, in the rose garden, the president did not take questions from reporters. once again, multiple reporters shouted questions at the
president as he was leaving the rose garden, some about michael cohen, as i did earlier. and i should also note, there was no press briefing here at the white house, so no public setting to ask the white house questions, to have them on the record here at the white house today, beyond what i did during that meeting in the oval office. >> no, that was the only thing, and as you point out, in the rose garden, people are yelling out questions about, oh, michael cohen and vladimir putin, the exact same topics that you had asked when you were the only representative for the broadcast media. okay. kaitlan, thank you very much. i want to go now to paul begala, democratic strategist, former white house counselor to president clinton and jason miller who worked in communications for trump when he was the senior kmaun-- communics adviser for the trump campaign. so paul, what do you make about the white house's actions here and bill shine, who is the person who called her in and had the meeting and banned her from the next event. >> well, mr. shine, i'm quite sure, is just the monkey here, and it's the organ grinder who's
driving the show, i don't have any doubt. i'm just speculating, but it's informed on history that this is the president's order. he seemed very upset by kaitlan's questions. >> he clearly was anger. i called him the angry persian cat. he looked very angry. he wasn't happy with the questions. >> and this has been the one most consistent thing in the trump presidency. a war against the truth. the very first day he was president, what did he do? he told us not to believe our eyes. that pictures of his own inaugural crowd size, which was not as big as president obama's, were, in fact, misleading us. so don't believe your eyes. he began his presidency with a lie. and yesterday, he was still lying, in a very similar vein. telling us, telling the vfw in that speech yesterday, don't believe what you see and read and hear. so today what happens, kaitlan asks him a question about a tape that proves the president's a lawyer. he knows now that he lied to us when he said that he didn't know about the payments to this woman who alleges an affair.
so we've got conclusive proof. with our own ears, we can learn that our president lied. it's absolute proof that he's a liar. it may not be criminal, but it proves he's a liar. and i think kaitlan conducted herself with such integrity and professionalism. i think i would be a little anger, if that were me. >> jason, what do you make of this? she did ask questions very politely and they are the exact same questions that reporters shouted out at the rose garden event, which she was subsequently banned from, and there was no other press availability by anybody in the white house today. the cohen tapes were the story. i -- do you disagree with that, jason? >> well, i disagree that those tapes were the story of the day. but i would also disagree, i think, with the way that the white house handled this. although, for much different reasons than for what paul said. for a couple of reasons. while i personally found the questions annoying, given that they were there to talk about the eu and the potential trade deal that was coming up, i did not find the questions inappropriate. and so then by taking it to the next steps, then the reporter essentially was then made into a
martyr, which then brought in the entire press corps, which took in the entire afternoon news cycle, in a completely different direction, because fundamentally, what i would have liked to have been on talking about this evening is the fact that president trump put together a great trade deal with the eu, getting more soybeans and manufactured goods over to the eu. >> just to be clear -- i'm not trying to get into a debate on this, but what he said was, we're going to start negotiations. so there's no deal, there's a discussion there may be a deal, but he said, we're going to get one. so there is no deal yet. >> was also on the eu, the eu also agreed we're moving towards that direction. >> yes, that is true. >> it was a joint statement. so, yes, they're moving in that direction, but it wasn't a unilateral statement. but that's what i would have loved to have been talking about, and the progress we're making towards nafta and the bigger economic competition between u.s. and china. >> but jason, would you admit, they didn't want to talk about the cohen tapes today. that's why there was no press briefing or have any other availability -- >> much happier to be talking about -- >> and he did tweet about it.
but he didn't want to talk about it. so they knew this was the question they were going to get. they don't live on mars. >> but, you know, but erin, but going back to, i think, the entire point, you know, when you have a pool reporter that's coming in, obviously, they're representing an entire number of different journalists. so i think it has to be a to higher standard, if you are going to go and say that there is inappropriate behavior before you go and take that type of action. but here's the thing about president trump that i think paul maybe kind of, i know, deep down inside would have liked to have remferenced. president trump is -- when we talk about these white house pool sprays, is one of the most transparent, open presidents that we've ever seen in the white house. the fact of the matter is that he takes questions in these pool sprays and in these briefings and these cabinet meetings far more often than i've ever seen of any other president in our lifetime. >> okay, what do you make of that, paul? okay, what do you make of that? he doesn't like to hold press conferences or do that. but he does like to answer questions when he wants to.
and then he'll go on and on and won't walk away from the camera. >> he's more loquacious. i wouldn't say transparent. because with the -- here's the key to decoding our president. when his lips move, he lies. now, his lips move on awful lot and he lies an awful lot. this is not just me, it's "the washington post" fact checker who says he's set the ncca record for presidential lying. but this is what he wants. he wants us talking about this. he wants his supporters to hate cnn and any other truth teller. it's why -- think why it's -- because he knows there's going to be some facts coming, i suspect, from mr. mueller that are pretty damning to him and he wants us to be blind to facts. >> okay, appreciate it. republicans introducing a resolution to impeach the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein. you see him there. impeachment? we'll explain exactly what that breaking news means in our special series, stakes are high. trump allowing one of the most controversial mining projects in alaska's history to move forward.
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manu, we hear the word "impeach." rod rosenstein is obviously in charge of the russia investigation. so all sorts of alarm bells and question marks. why are they filing this resolution now? >> well, tension has been building for months between house republicans and the justice department over a range of requests that republicans say has not been fully met. subpoenas related to the russia investigation, related to the clinton investigation. they believe that republicans, the republicans do, that things were not done properly with regard to those investigations. they believe that rod rosenstein is responsible for not turning over these documents. i'm holding hear the articles of impeachments, that says that he would be impeached for, quote, high crimes and misdemeanors. and if so, it would have to go over to senate to convict him. the senate would have to ultimately approve it by a two-thirds majority. and right now, erin, there's a very, very unlikely chance of this being approved by both chambers. there are republicans who are skeptical about this approach. certainly in the senate, there's no support, even among republicans or very little support. and erin, i can tell you that the justice department, too, is pushing back.
they say they have complied enormous will these requests. over 808,000 pages have been turned over to capitol hill. concern for those allies of the justice department that this is all just a fishing expedition, going after the justice department tonight. >> so you talk about two-thirds senate vote, obviously, they don't have that, right? but when you read through the substance of the articles of impeachment that you have, is there substance here? or is this just all politics, part of an effort to undercut mueller and the russia investigation? >> that is clearly the concern, particularly from democrats, rod rosenstein, of course, has been in charge of the mahler probe. so the question is, is this just an effort to give the president pretext to fire rod rosenstein? that is something that you're going to hear going forward, an argument against this. we'll hear what the house speaker has to say, when he d addresses reporters tomorrow. because he has been as not embracing this more confrontational approach, possibly holding in contempt, but impeachment is a line probably further that most republicans are willing to go. we'll see when this happens. we'll see if a floor vote could
happen in the fall. probably not before they leave for recess here, erin. >> all right. thank you very much, manu. and next, our special series. the passionate battle over gold mining. maybe the biggest gold mine in the year in some of the most pristine wilderness in the entire united states. >> what do you say to the argument that this means jobs, this means an infusion into the alaskan economy? >> i say there are already jobs here. and women running for office on a big winning streak this week. what does it mean for the midterms? ♪
tonight, a gold mine near alaska's bristol bay, 1 million acres of untouched wildlife, habitat, and fishing and a literal gold mine, too. what could be the biggest gold mine on earth. a controversial project all but killed by president obama now going ahead under president trump. here with a third part of our special "outfront" series, bill we're reporting from alaska. >> this is a beach landing on a battleground. no bombs or bullets, thankfully. just gorgeous quiet. but that little camp holds a
band of brothers determined to defend it from invasion. what happens if a bear comes for a drink right now? >> just stop. >> reporter: among them is drew hamilton, a biologist and guide for the world wildlife fund who makes a living getting cozy with grizzlies. >> it takes a couple of days out here to really ease into it and realize that the bears are just part of the landscape and they're going about their business and as long as you don't mess with them, they're going to leave you alone. >> reporter: in nearby katmai national park, my team learned firsthand that this part of alaska is nirvana for bears, and wolfs, whales and eagles. a wonderland all made possible by salmon. tens of millions surge into southern alaska each summer to spawn, feeding every form of life, including a multi-billion-dollar fishing and tourism industry, dependent on the health of this landscape. >> we've got bear tracks, we've
had wolf tracks, fox tracks. >> reporter: which is why drew worries less about wild animals and more about the human beings coming towards us on the beach. >> what are you guys up to? >> we work for a surveying company up in anchorage. >> reporter: they are hesitant to admit they're doing work for the pebble mine, one of the most controversial projects in alaska history. >> this spot right here. this is it. this is where it all started. >> about 80 miles from the beach, a canadian mining company called northern dynasty discovered enough buried treasure to propose the biggest gold and copper mine in the world. world. but when the epa under barack obama determined that blasting it open and digging it up with threaten the fishery, stock in northern dynasty tanked. partners build a. the company sued. but then -- >> congratulations, mr. president. >> a reversal of fortune. in one of his very first acts running trump's epa, scott
pruitt met with pebble and then settled the lawsuits. when cnn revealed that meeting, there was an outcry in alaska. most fishermen, tribes, even governor bill walker are opposed to the mine, and senator lisa murkowski said she would never trade salmon for gold. but northern dynasty refuses to give up. the latest plan includes a 100-mile natural gas pipeline to power the mine. it would run past that active volcano into a massive port system here on this beach. imagine ships and semitrucks instead of bears and foxes. and then a 35-mile road through some of the most pristine wilderness in the state. since scott pruitt resigned amid scandal, the new man in charge of the epa is andrew wheeler, a former lobbyist at one of pebble mine's law firms. he declined a request for an interview. >> this is in the roosevelt room, and that's gore and clinton. >> reporter: but the ceo of pebble was happy to talk.
nobody can guarantee there won't be an accident, right? but we've done a hell of a lot to minimize the possibility of their being an accident on this site. >> reporter: pebble mine would sit in a wetland prone to earthquakes. so the biggest worry is a tails dam failure like this one in british columbia, which sent a lake full of acidic waste downstream. but collier says the mine site is so far from bristol bay, that is a risk he can live with. >> if there is an accident, it will kill fish for about 20 miles down the north fork. and that's it. and for ten years. it will come back naturally. >> reporter: utah's bingham canyon is the biggest mine in the world. pebble has enough wealth to big one three times bigger. but after all the resistance, those plans have been cut in half. >> and there are some theories that you shrink the footprint of the mine in order to get the permit, and then once you spend
billions to build the port and the pipelines and the roads and all of that, you say well, we need to expand. >> there is a lot of gold and copper and silver and molibnum in the ground. and we do not have any plans to expand what we're talking about with this permit. but it wouldn't surprise me if somebody, us or someone else doesn't do that at some point this the future. >> they're basically talking about putting a 175-mile gash across this pristine habitat. >> reporter: plans and promises aside, drew sees this first piece of survey equipment as the beginning of the end of this wilderness as we know it. what do you say to the argument this means are jobs. >> i say there are already jobs here. you look at the town of homer and the bear viewing industry, there are millions of dollars being made here already in its current wilderness stake. you look at the other side of the mountain, there are tens of millions of dollars already being generated in a fashion
that can be sustained for decades and decades and decades. why can't we just keep that going? >> reporter: so he and his fellow bear lovers will try to stop the invasion through persuasion, but the clock is ticking as army engineers rush to review their plans, pebble hopes to get their permit and a wave of new investors by the fall of 2020. right before donald trump's next election. bill weir, cnn, alaska. >> and next, a record number of women running for office this year winning. what does president trump have to do with it? i've been making blades here at gillette for 20 years. i bet i'm the first blade maker you've ever met. there's a lot of innovation that goes into making our thinnest longest lasting blades on the market. precision machinery and high-quality materials
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and kyung, i know you spoke would lucy mcbath today. she lost her son to gun violence in 2012. she is going to be facing republican congressman karen handel in the general election. so this going to be two women in this final race. what did lucy tell you? >> she says that she is just one face, erin, in an a historic surge of women running for office. she has an authentic story that voters have decided to latch on to, a nonpolitician. she also adds she is no longer just a first-time candidate, she is a primary winner. >> but i want washington to know about the women that are coming is that we're coming to keep you accountable. we're coming to make sure that, you know, our communities and the people that live in them can live the american dream, that that's not being taken from us, stricken from us. i just think that women are really trying to make sure that democracy works for all, and
they're definitely concerned about what the future looks like. not just for themselves, but for the communities. >> now comes the hard part. mcbath does face a tough general. >> we hear so much about women rung. your series born to run has profiled so many of them. what the overall scorecard across the country when it comes not just to women rung but the ones who have won in all of these primaries so far this year? >> we do want to caution that we are in the middle of primary season. so this is sort of the mid -- this is as of today. and i want to point to this data from the center for women and politics. this is data given to us by cawp. as of today, if you look at this map, those yellow dots are states where the primaries have already occur. and the center for american women in politics say 40% of women have won their primary for the u.s. house. 31% have won in the u.s. senate. but let's put this into context, drilling down those numbers. when you look at how those women are doing in u.s. house races
versus men, they are outperforming men by 10%. that is overall. and then drill it down even further. nonincumbents. here is where you get some stunning numbers. they are outperforming men in this category by 16%. erin, the experts tell us they do believe this will be a history-setting year, but they do want the caution that it will take many years of the women in order to get parity. erin? >> thank you very much. but certainly something that everyone has noticed and kyung has been covering. so you know all of the names on the front lines before you actually see them in the win or loss column. thanks to all of you for joining us. "anderson cooper 306" starts right now. good evening. the top story tonight remains that tape, michael cohen's secret recording of then candidate donald trump. mr. trump caught on tape talking about reimbursing his friend and
tabloid magazine publisher $150,000, the same sum of money that the magnificent publisher had paid a "playboy" model for the alleged rights to her story for a tn alegged affair with donald trump. mr. trump and mr. cohen apparently were worried their secret still wasn't safe, so they were planning to buy the rights to the story from ami, thereby guaranteeing the woman's silence in the closing weeks of the campaign. that's what we hear on that secret tape, but not according to the president or his defenders. so we begin tonight