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back to you, jim. >> it is devastating. those were people's homes there, all that had he had lost. paul boouk, thank you very much for being on the scene there for us. i'm jim schudo. thank you for watching tonight. my colleague is coming up next. erin burnett out front starts right now. >> he predicted months ago that trump would save himself, but as mielk cohen the least of trump's worries. trump's long-time personal attorney jay goldberg is out front tonight, and the breaking news. six women accusing cbs chairman les moonves of six alwal harassmeharas -- sexual harassment. >> geepg. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, someone is lying, and the truth is it's tough to know who. the president or his fixer after
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a damning accusation that could change the entire russia investigation. sources tell cnn that mielk cohen clamtds that then candidate trump knew in advance about the infamous 2016, june 2016, trump tower meeting. >> the guy used to say he would take a bullet for him. the president said i did not know if the meeting of my son don jr. taxi cabs, maybe. he even retained bill and crooked hillary's lawyer. gee, i wonder if they helped him malk the choice. times change. the president, his allies, repeatedly, public times inned that the president was unaware of the meeting until just a few
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days before it made headlines a year ago. in other words, a year after it happened. here is it -- >> did you know that -- >> no, i didn't know anything about it. it must have been a very unimportant meeting, bought i didn't even heard of it. >> no one even told you a word about it? >> nobody -- i didn't know that. it's -- it sounded like a very unimportant meeting. >> let's just go to the details of this unimportant meeting. team trump has changed its story many times. don jr. originally said he never met with my russians, and then the emails forced him to admit that he did south sit down with a russian lawyer who promised to have dirt on hillary clinton. as the meeting gets through, significance as we found out who was there and the russians and their ties to trump himself. the russian lawyer at the center of it admitted to being an informant. okay. one thing, though, has never changed. that is this one point. team trump says donald trump himself did not know about it. could this be about to change?
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jo the president in the unusual position and clearly being surprised by cohen's allegation, and unsure about how to respond. just kind of stunning, right? he usually always has a response. the truth is when it comes to things cohen has played a role in, the president of the united states has had a problem telling the truth. i want to just take, for example, stormy daniels, right? the two men linked when it comes to that story. trump, first, insisting that he knew nothing about the $130,000 payment, hush money, that was paid by cohen to daniels. that is, until rudy giuliani admitted that trump did know about it. >> did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no, no.
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>> why did mielk coeastbound make that accusation? >> you have to ask mielk cohen. >> the "new york times" said he repaid it and knew about it long before he said that he didn't. april 5th. that means he lied on that day. if michael cohen is telling the truth now, and sources are saying, right, that he is willing to go to bob mueller with this to say -- that trump knew about the meeting in trump tower, then cohen would also be a liar. here's why. last july when news of the meeting broke, don jr. went on fox news and said this. >> a lot of people are going to want to know this about your father. did you tell your father anything about this?
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>> it was such a nothing. there was nothing to tell. >> okay. that was a loud and plain answer. no. so then michael cohen, that very night after don jr. talked to sean hannity tweeted so proud for don jr. being so honest and transparent to the american people. this nonsense needs to stop. so if he tweeted that knowing that trump jr. lied, well, then he is a liar. i mean, why didn't he say so then instead of calling trump jr. open, honest, and transparent? we begin our coverage, and, sarah, you know, this all obviously could be incredibly important for bob mueller's investigation rsh we don't have any -- it's interested in hearing it. i think the other thing that's worth noting is that michael cohen didn't share this version of events when he talked to two congressional committees, and
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sources tell cnn he doesn't have corroborating evidence in the form of, for instance, tapes that he might have about some other interactions with president trump. you could get into a situation where it's a he said-he said. remember, michael cohen did a little bit of a bind here. he is under criminal investigation in new york. he is basically trying to broadcast through allies the fact that his allegiance no longer lies with donald trump and that he is looking to make some kind of deal. he is in sort of a desperate position here, and so that may be an impact on the sort of shifting stories we're seeing. we just don't know exactly what michael cohen knows and whether there are perhaps other people who are involved in this conversation who would share his version of events. so far, though, they have not come forward, as you pointed out. donald trump has denied over and over again that he knew anything about this meeting ahead of time. >> right. right. you have those denials everywhere. then today, you know, sources on michael cohen's side and, well, we just -- no one has corroborated it as of yet. sarah, thank you very much. i want to go straight now to democratic congress nan denney
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heck of washington. also, a member of the house permanent select committee on intelligence. you're really in the center of this because you talked to michael cohen. let me just ask you the point-blank question here. i want to talk about who is lying because somebody is lying. who do you think it is? >> well, let's stop and enjoy the irony that this comes exactly, precisely two years to the day when donald trump, then a candidate for president, held his last press conference of the campaign, and encouraged the russians to go hack away and find hillary rodham clinton helg emails. what that was was collusion, and i have been saying for over a year, collusion is hiding in plain sight. the truth of the matter is collusion is not a crime. it's not even a legal term. however, there is introduced here the allegation of criminal intent if the then candidate donald trump knew ahead of time about this meeting and what its purpose was. we're into whole new territory here. >> michael cohen spent six hours behind closed doors with you and your committee in october. it was described as a contentious exchange. let me just ask you, what did he
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say then? when you all -- did donald trump know about this meeting ahead of time? did he tell you yes or no? >> obviously, we have pledged not to reveal what was said in those hearings or those witness interviews, but, look, just take it for the facts on the surface. at this meeting was not only the president's son. his namesake. the president's son-in-law who was chief advisor, political advisor. >> i know you obviously can't tell me what he said, but do you think michael cohen is a truthful person? >> i don't think michael cohen has a tremendous incentive to lie. he did before, but i don't think he does now. i think what's happening is the walls are closing in on president trump. he knows it, and we're going to see increasing desperate rhetoric and behavior on his part. sfla so when it comes to cohen proving his side of things, which he honestly in a sense the burdt to me really is on him
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because he is coming out and saying it a year later which, you know, we tweeted after the fox news appearance by don jr., the opposite. he has never said it until now publicly. now all of a sudden to say it, it's sort of what -- what happened before, right? >> the president always -- he always said he -- obviously, that was not true. the tape that cohen released. cohen, that we understand from the sources you say he is willing to tell the story about the meeting to mueller. doesn't have audio recordings or any evidence. to corroborate his claim, someone else in the room would have to do it.
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trump jr. went on tv to claim his father, and cohen's tweet that night, i'll just read it again, so proud of donald trump jr. for being so honest -- open, honest, and transparent to the american people. >> he said then he was willing to take a bullet for the president and pretty clearly that's not the pattern of behavior of, like -- >> do you want cohen to appear before your competent again? >> sure. there are a lot of questions we would like to circle back to and answer. the truth of the matter is there's a long list of people that we thought should have been subpoenaed and been compelled to come before us and answer questions that weren't. that's part of the reason why we were so upset at what we believe was the premature termination of the russian investigation. after all, we continue to be treated to this drip, drip, drip of revelation. the reason for that is we didn't get to the bottom of it. >> congressman, thank you very much. i want to make sure i'm clear because i misspoke.
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the tape obviously was about the karen mcdougall payment. not the stormy daniels payment. giuliani made it clear that the president knew about that and it's been corroborated by the "new york times." thank you so much for your time tonight. out front next, too close for comfort. donald trump jr. and bob mueller. today at the same airport. the same gate. plus, long-time trump attorney jake goldberg correctly predicted that he would turn on trump, but is he more worried about the trump organization's cfo now testifying? jake goldberg is out front. bombshell allegations of sexual misconduct by the chairman of cbs. les moonves. roenan pharaoh braking that story just moments ago. we'll come out front. ♪ a hotel can make or break a trip.
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and! ♪ we'll make heaven a place on earth ♪ yeah! oh, my angels! ♪ ooh, heaven is a place on earth ♪ [ sobs quietly ] >> take a look at this picture. this is why people call it a swamp, guys. this was gate 35x at washington's reagan national airport this morning. you see the two bright spots. the guy in the teal shirt, that's donald trump jr., and over there on the left, the guy -- what's he reading, i wonder. ipad. anyway, that's bob mueller. no mistake about it. >> if it's accurate that the other person was donald trump jr., mr. mueller was not aware of him and had no interaction
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with him. okay. this comes amid michael cohen's stunning claim that president trump knew in advance about his son's infamous trump tower meeting with russian officials in june 2016. sources say cohen is ready to make that claim directly to bob mueller. out front now, john deal, former nixon white house counsel and cnn contributor frank brunhing, "new york times" columnist, and april ryan white house american urban radio network. thanks to all. all of a sudden this comes out through the media. is this the way to do it, john? >> well, it's my understanding that the cohen team did not row lease this, and they, in fact, were upset that we're not pleased that it was put out. it doesn't sound like part of their strategy to somehow get
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favorable treatment for the southern district or to get in front of the special counsel. so that's the first issue is who and why would trump leak this? well, to try to discredit the testimony. >> frank, that's a pretty stunning thing. it's true, right? cohen is ready to do this. somehow team trump finds out about it, puts it out. i mean, you know, we don't know what the sources are that are putting this out. normally if you want this testimony to have value, you want to tell the prosecutor about this behind closed doors. you don't want it out in public. if we're going to have a kind of full round of assassination of michael cohen's character, well, leaking this testimony and getting into this fight over twitter, et cetera, it serves
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exactly that. coseven a liar now or then, but he is not telling the truth in both instances. april, the president, obviously, has said many times that he knew nothing about this meeting. his son and press secretary has said it. his lawyer has said it. here all of them are, just to make everyone understand. this is not a question of ambiguity. >> a lot of people are going to want to know this about your father. did you tell year father anything about this? >> it was such a nothing. there was nothing to tell. >> what did the president have a bad meeting that had taken place? >> i believe in the last couple of days is my understanding. >> let's focus what the president was aware of. nothing. he was not aware of the meeting. did not attend the meeting, and was only informed about the e-mail very recently by his counsel. >> we know cohen doesn't have a
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tape. he doesn't have anything to prove this version unless someone else will corroborate it. you have all these people lying or repeating lies they were told if cohen is right. >> that's the problem, erin. there's a credibility issue all around. >> the president is the father of don jr., who was involved. he allegedly worked on a letter. we don't know the extent of this. what he knew when. it's a credibility issue. it's about proof and how request you prove it? that's something we have to find out when he comes back. >> you know, you are right, and one of the problems here is michael cohen is not the most credible of characters, but what he is saying absolutely plays, right? it has the loudest ring of truth
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because when you look at the calls to the blocked numbers, when you look at other aspects of the timeline, donald trump. >> that's how donald trump's number showed up. >> he said i'm going to have an announcement in a couple of days. when you look at all of that, and you stack it up, it is impossible, i this i, for any sane person to believe donald trump did not know about this meeting. >> to play it in a court of public opinion, if it goes one way or the other, we know that michael cohen, even though they're saying that the cohen people didn't do this, michael cohen understands that if he plays to donald trump, he doesn't know what donald trump is going to do. his understanding is that mueller -- he has a better chance to understand that mueller is his best chance than going with donald trump who might dangle something in his face and spit it back. >> i'm also curious, though. for michael cohen, right? if this is true now, what he said before and what he has stood by and been silenced about, that's where the line would be. he has a credibility issue. for mueller so even be willing to do a deal in the southern district to do a deal with him, he would have to have some kind of proof, and this is where i really get confused.
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>> isn't that a real problem for cohen? this. >> >> i don't think that whether he gets a deal or didn't e doesn't get a deal will turn on this one sliver of testimony. he knows a lot more he has some four million documents seized of him by the fbi. there's lots of need to explain those documents, i'm sure, to set them up. they have negative implications. he with just have such a sliver here of knowledge that i don't think attorneys have any trouble rehabilitating him and making him a good witness on this issue. >> i think it's a real significant point. when you say wouldn't have a problem rehabilitating him. not what people would expect for him to say that. april, i want to -- today we heard the president on twitter. he came out. then when he was asked questions about this, he ignored them.
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snoo they were reporting the president wants to punish journalists for the way they ask questions, directing white house staff to ban specific people from covering certain events or even revoke their press credentials. obviously this -- who asked questions about putin and cohen. >> and then got banned from an event later in the day. article goes on to say, "two reporters in particular have drawn the president's ayre on multiple occasions. jim accosta, cnn chief white house -- and washington bureau chief for american urban radio networks and cnn contributor. >> two people by name. you're one of them. >> this is my fourth president. this is not the firt that i've had an administration upstet with me, but it's never been to this point. you know, i remember robert
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gibbs went after me with some. skbra i was just asking questions. i was the only white house correspondent in that ad. the rest of them were people from host from cnn and what have you. i was the only one. this is not new. sflo there's a direct attempt to come after me, and that's why i have my latest book called under fire. i'm telling you the story. >> if you are under fire with this president, you are not doing something wrong. you are doing something right. >> thank you. thank you all very much. i appreciate it. >> next, all eyes on michael
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cohen, but will it be the money trail and his financial right-hand man who brings him down if that happens. long-time former trump attorney jay goldberg is up next. the chairman of cbs you should fire tonight facing charges of sexual misconduct. that's les moonves. it is reporter who just dropped this bombshell article. pulitzer prize winner michael pharaoh is next this hour. with best in-class towing best in-class payload and best in-class torque the f-150 lineup has the capability to get big things to big places --bigtime. and things just got bigger. f-150 is now motor trend's 2018 truck of the year. this is the new 2018 ford f-150. it doesn't just raise the bar, pal. it is the bar. ♪ ♪ our new, hot, fresh breakfast will get you the readiest.
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russians at trump power. here's congressman adam schif where. >> it effe think part of the -- certainly the conspiracy case for bob mueller is investigating. it might also be part of the obstruction case. >> up front now is jay goldberg, former long-time attorney for donald trump. now, back in april, jay, you told me that cohen would turn on trump. you used that word very explicitly. you said he would lie to the feds. so let's get straight to this. sources telling cnn coknow witnessed don jr. tell his father about this meeting with the russians, including this russian lawyer who says she was an informant for dirt on hillary clinton tell him before the meeting. trump, of course, has insisted, as you know, time and time again that he defendant's exhibit now.
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it's a very important point in the case or in the preegts between don jr., the russians, and knowledge on the part of the senior. so it would have been tape-recorded. >> coknow, though, you know, obviously, he has said he would take a bullet for donald trump. the president used too speak very highly of michael cohen, and after the fbi when the fbi went and got these millions of documents, more than one million documents, and all these tape-recordings, all this stuff, when the president knew all this stuff was now in the hands of the feds, his lawyer rudy
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giuliani praised michael cohen. let me play it for you. >> the man is an honest, honorable lawyer. >> michael is not going to lie. he is going to tell the truth. >> giuliani is saying believe cohen. >> when i was questioned by donald as to whether to hire giuliani, i was not in favor of giuliani. >> i didn't think he had knowledge of how to handle the case two defense perspective. he was a long-time prosecutor. he didn't know how to set a case up. the possible impeachment of a witness such as cohen. now, we don't know that cohen would tell the truth. it's entirely likely that given precedent a person who was in cohen's position would tell the government what he believes the government wants to hear. for giuliani to say that he will tell the truth strips the
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defense of its main weapon of claiming that he is coloring his testimony so he can get a letter of cooperation. >> obviously, you disagree with what he says there. >> i knew as soon as giuliani spoke that he was damaging trump's case immeasurably. >> immeasurably. >> how bad could that be? >> sfwoo on a certain day you said that cohen would tell the truth that he is an honorable person, and the jury would hear that. that would be terribly damaging to someone who is trying to impeach the credibility of cohen. it's no defense oriented lawyer would say that.
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>> have you told the president this now? obviously you are saying you told them before, don't go this route. he did. this is what's happened. what are you telling them? >> i haven't said it. i don't rub in, and it's something to an open wound. i indicated to him at the outset the danger of giuliani as a spokesman, as a witness with no experience. he says he thinks president trump and michael cohen is the more desperate of the two legally right now. this is what he said. >> i don't think that michael cohen has tremendous incentive to life. he did before, but i don't think he does now. i think, in fact, what's
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happening is that the walls are closing in on president trump. he knows it. we're going to see increasing desperate rhetoric and behavior. >> i think he has a strong moment to pay what he thinks the prosecutor wants. he never wants -- >> in your view it's a lot. >> he never wants to see the inside of a jail, and he is counting on favoritism from the prosecution. who looks bad in this case is davis from releasing the material prematurely. the prosecutor is not going to take kindly to the release of these tapes early on. they were s -- now trump knows that cohen is given to tape-recording. that weapon is gone from the prosecutor's arsenal. >> before we go, i want to ask
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you -- >> many people say this is not going to be about the trump tower meeting. >> knows everything about donald. next to a family member, and perhaps even more than a family member. he knows everything about donald. in terms of the money trail donald can be heard, i believe, a great deal by alan. alan is an honorable guy. he is not, oh, like anybody, and he will tell the truth.
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>> i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> president trump bragging about amazing economic growth today. skbro these numbers are very, very sustainable. this isn't a one-time shot. >> is that true? >> and stunning charges alleging decades of sexual misconduct by the chairman of cbs. the report on les moonves out moments ago, and the reporter who broke the story, roenan farrow, in next. i'm captain obvious and hotels.com rewards me basically everywhere. so why am i hosting a dental convention after party in my vegas suite?
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autosix bethlehem who say they were sexually larsed and bim dated by the chairman and ceo of cbs les moonves. illiyana douglas, a lot of courage to go out by name. she is putting her name and her face on this. known roles in good fellas and six feet under. describes one encounter with moonves this way. in a milliesecond, he has one arm over me pinning me. moonves was violently kissing her, holding her down on the coach with her arms above her head. what it feels like to have someone hold you down, you can't breathe. you can't move. she said. the physicality of it was horrendo horrendous. these allegations, which she so carefully goes through, against moonves took place over a long period of time. between the 1980s and the late 2000s.
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the reporter who broke it is out front with me now, and roenan, thank you. i know you have had a crazy day getting this through. you have to get people willing to put their names on it and corroborate it all. you have to get new lawyers. you have to do what the company that doesn't want it out there. there was a pattern now that you found here. harass and intimidate, and you go through example after example. >> and there are these -- as you say, very disturbing allegations against les moonves. i think what is so significant here, erin, is you're dealing with both an individual who is at the top of his game, and on who many, many other powerful people depend or for their livelihoods, and also a corporation that is at the apex of our culture, that shapes our news, that shapes our fiction that we consume. and as it turns out within this, in many facets of the company, and we're careful not to over generalize, but we do say that there are a string of examples manifested in litigation and complaints inside the company
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where people said this happened to me too. this wasn't just les moonves. it was a culture of protecting powerful people. >> look, i want -- as i said, you go through many examples. i wi illiyana douglas's account, i cringed and had to stop reading for a couple of minutes when i read this. i think it's important for viewers to hear it because this is what she's saying happened, and, by the way, as you say, she told people at the time, multiple people, so that is the corroboration. >> she recalled lying limp and
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unresponsive. you sort of black out, she told me. you think how long is this going to go on? i was just looking at this nice picture of his family and his kids. i couldn't get him off me. she said it was only when moonves aroused, pulled up her skirt and began to thrust against her that her fear overcame paralysis. she said she had to do something to stop, and at that point you're a trapped animal. your life is flashing before your eyes. that is disgusting. >> what's significant here is exactly as you are suggesting. not necessarily just these very disturbing details, but the fact that she says this seemed to be part of a pattern of retaliation. she alleges in this case that he backed her against a wall shortly after this encounter as she tried to leave. >> once she finally got up to leave. >> she said this has to stay between us, and she was very frightened. more significantly, she then gets by her. not long after.
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her feeling was this was covered up, that she had few people to turn to, that everyone was telling her he is too powerful to confront, and that everyone else went on with their life, but she had a career that suffered. every woman in here tells a story that mirrors that. >> it is at the apex one would say, right? >> it's a very different prospect for us to confront these kinds of serious allegations when someone is to use that word at the apex. >> janet jones, another person you talk about here, trying to break into the industry as a writer. 1985. she writes with moonsl es for a pitch meeting. she comes in i guess later in the day.
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>> i was hitting ow, i wanted a kiss. she recalled him saying. that allegation is extremely powerful because that shows it was a pattern. a pattern perhaps of not great significance to him just how he did business. >> that was the feeling of several of these women. that this seemed practiced. they all continued to fear retaliation. janet jones, the writer, he just mentioned. describes him calling her afterwards and threatening her and saying things that appear to be cliches to us, but obviously coming after a work meeting and after an alleged assault like this.
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>> they feared it was a culture. >> les moonves, he said i remember an interaction, obviously. he denies any sort of threats or retaliation. >> yes. >> he has put out a statement in response to your reporting. i want to read it. >> and this is in our story as well. >> you did include it. you did -- you're not trying to mask this at all. i want to make sure we put it out there as well. throughout my time at cbs, we have promoted a culture of respect and opportunity for all employees and consistently found success elevating women to top executive positions across our company. i recognize there were time decades ago that i -- when i may have made someone uncomfortable. those were mistakes, and i regret them immensely, but i always understood and respected and abided by the principle that no means no, and i have never misused my position to harm or hinder anyone's career.
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>> has this alleged behavior topped stopped to your knowledge? >> i can only speak to the examples we report on, and you accurately describe the period that they're in. it's important that cbs and les moonves have an affirm opportunity to engage, and their input is reflected in here. >> these are allegation says that are heavily corroborated. the facts are on the side of these women, or it wouldn't be in print here. you're right. perspectives can vary, and a pattern much behavior can be less significant for the alleged assailant than for the adding victims. >> it was bringing light to these kinds of stories, and they'll resonate with mem women and men in so many industries. >> take your time. read it. i have read it. i'm going to read it again.
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or are prone to infections. don't let another morning go by without talking to your rheumatologist about xeljanz xr. new tonight, a victory lap. president trump touting the u.s. economy growing at a 4.1%, that's an annualized rate by a second quarter number. it is the strongest growth since 2014. >> i think the most important thing, and larry kudlow just confirmed to me along with kevin hastert that these numbers are very, very sustainable. this isn't a one-time shot. we've accomplished an economic turnaround of historic proportions. >> "outfront" now, the former senior economics adviser to the trump campaign steve moore, now and former white house adviser. steve, the president making it very clear this is sustainable. it's not a one-time shot. some economists don't believe that. one of them, the chief u.s.
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economist at oxford says, quote, we believe q2 will represent a growth boost as global growth moderates, inflation rises, the fed tightens monetary policy, and trade protectionism looms over the economy. it is possible he sees something that the president is missing? >> you know, one of the things i've discovered since the last two and a half years that i've worked with donald trump on economic policy is he has this amazing capacity to prove all of these economists wrong. i remember during the campaign when he said we could grow 3, 4, 5%. and almost the entire economic faculty of harvard and yale and people like larry summers said it's impossible. remember they said stuff like secular stagnation. the economy can't grow faster than 2. look, there is no reason we can't get two, three, four, five years of 4% growth. it is true, by the way, erin, there are a couple of dark clouds on the horizon. one of them a trade war that would certainly hurt the american economy.
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i think we made some progress this week on that. the other is maybe where we're going to find the workers to keep this economy going. that's what i hear employers complaining about now. they want to expand, but they don't have the workers to do it. >> and of course immigration point. you mentioned a trade war. i think that's really important because obviously taxes and what's happening with that is important. but the trade war first and foremost right now. so the administration is this $12 billion aid package that they're going give to farmer, primarily in the midwest to, you know, try to make up for retaliatory tariffs china is putting on soy beans in response for trump's tariffs. treasure secretary steve mnuchin says this is not a bailout, not a bailout. that's insane talk. however, the republican congressman jeff hensarling, very conservative, fiscal hawk, chairman of the house financial services committee says he is worried about a global trade war, and mnuchin is dead wrong on the bailout issue. here he is. >> my dad was a farmer, my granddad was a farmer. we want trade, not aid. i believe this is still a
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bailout. it is a bailout from these policies. >> bailout? >> i very rarely disagree with jeb hensarling. he is one of my best friends. the way i see it is very simple. we have a high-stakes showdown with china. we have to win this for the good of our economy and our security. trump has basically said we're going to punish you unless you start behaving. china is now engaging in their own tariffs that are directed at trying to disrupt our elections, by the way. where is the investigation on that? and look, it's a very fair thing -- >> steve, steve, steve, hold on. but he put tariffs on them so they retaliated. >> no, no, no, no. look, with all due respect, erin, that's not what happened. china has been stealing and cheating for 20 years, and we finally got serious about taking and punishing them for that. they should be punished. and so now they want to retaliate -- >> the tariffs. are you steve moore for punishing for using tariffs? >> look, they're stealing $300
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billion a year from us. you think, erin, we continue to allow that to go on year after year after year? i think trump is right. and i think the american people are with him on this. china is a big problem. it's very difficult for american companies to do business there. what we want to see is china to stand down and buy our stuff. >> thank you very much. i think that you're right on one thing. everybody would agree, we've got some big problems with china on trade. thank you. and next, jeanne moos on trump asking for a coke. even on the secret recordings.
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the price of a can of coke is on the rise. part of the fallout from trump's aluminum tariffs. but that may not stop trump from slugging down a disease a day, as he once said. here is jeanne moos. >> reporter: talk about grasping at straws. have you heard the juiciest part of the trump/cohen tape. >> get me a coke, please. >> reporter: incontrovertible evidence of a thirsty president. >> get me a coke, please. >> reporter: living up to his reputation for daily consumption of -- 12 diet cokes, right? >> that's 144 ounces of president fuel. >> reporter: you'd be surprised how many commenters tweeted "my favorite part is when he quells get me a coke, please." other ranked it up there with
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mom, the meatloaf from wedding crashers. >> hey, mom, we get some meatloaf? >> reporter: there were comparisons to jfk, my fellow americans. >> ask not what your country can do for you, ask -- >> get me a coke, please. >> reporter: but there was one thing that got the most comments, that even critics found pleasing. wow, he said please. he said please, must be a fake? trump says please to the help? that's my president. he hasn't always been complimentary about his favorite beverage, tweeting i have never seen a thin person drinking diet coke, and i'll still keep drinking that garbage. jimmy fallon once chronicled the president's behavior as he downed his daily dozen. >> the american dream is dead. bin bing, bing, bong and that. and god bless the united states. >> reporter: now he has a red button on his oval office desk to push when he wants a coke.
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but when he was a candidate, he actually had to speak. >> get me a coke, please. >> reporter: as one commenter noted, things, including hush money, go better with coke. ♪ things go better with coca-cola ♪ >> reporter: jeanne moos -- >> get me a coke, please. >> reporter: cnn, new york. >> and thank you for joining us. have a great weekend. anderson is next. good evening. it says something about the kind of week we've seen or month or year, three, for that matter that the big question tonight is who are you going to believe? someone for not known for telling the truth or someone on record having made more than 3,000 false or misleading statements since becoming president. it says even more that this entirely deeply offensive notion seems to be the president's entire defensive strategy tonight. sources tell us michael cohen is prepared to tell russia's special counsel robert mueller that candidate trump had advanced knowledge of the new infamous june 2016 meeting between his

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