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you are in the cnn newsroom. i'm erica hill in today for ana cabrera in new york. not one but two hurricanes now barrelling towards the east coast. florence and now helene, which has been upgraded to a category 1 storm. there's also a third major system making its way west in the atlantic. that is tropical storm isaac. so hurricane florence, as you can see on the map, is the closest. forecasters fear it will become a category 3 storm or worse before making landfall later this week. meteorologist tom sader is in the weather center with more. just the fact we have these three storms, pretty powerful in the atlantic at the same time, is that unusual? >> this time of year, erica, these little lows come off the coast of africa, and they typically develop. tomorrow is the peak of the atlantic turn season. we've had an extremely quiet first half. too much saharan dust, temperatures too cool. we're starting to lose this picture because it's a visual
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satellite. the sun is going down. i want to point out before we give it a break for the night, there is no eye yet. noaa aircraft just reporting, however, that it's strengthening. by tomorrow, it could be a category 3. further strengthening as we see a possible landfall late thursday into friday. maybe as early as thursday afternoon. the entire east coast of the u.s. will see the surf start to churn, the rip currents will become dangerous, and to pinpoint it, really for a landfall, this is going to be tweaked all week long. but it looks like somewhere late thursday south and north carolina coastline. it's possible could it stay off the coast and spin for a couple days. but when you look at the position, erica, of where florence is right now, getting into warmer waters, you can assume it is going to get stronger. going back in history, with a latitude and longitude, every tropical system we've had where florence is now has never made its way to the u.s. coastline. they always move north. the steering currents are going to be interesting this week.
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again, this is several days away, so the models are going to fluctuate. we're going to have to keep up with it. there's a broad impact here. so we really can't focus on what we think landfall is going to be just yet. but that cone of uncertain it i is the entire coastline, all the way up to delmarva. some of the models want to keep this offshore and spin it for a while. that could be catastrophic flooding. isaac will become a hurricane. that moves toward the lesser antilles. heavy rain in puerto rico. not so worried about helene so far yet. but florence, it's going to be a beast. >> that's going to keep you busy for the next few days. tom, thank you. 20-year-old naomi osaka is a grand slam champion. the bulk of the headlines today, though, are not focused on her victory. instead, it's the troers thcont that erupted in the second set of her championship match between vee ya williams and carlos ramos. she's now been fined $23,000 for
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three violations, including smashing her racket. here's how it all unfolded. serena, who was already down a set to osaka, is issued a warning over illegal coaching from the stands. well, that's when serena approached the umpire for the first time. >> we don't have any code, and i know you don't know that. i understand why you thought that was coaching. i don't cheat to win. i'd rather lose. i'm just letting you know. >> i don't cheat, she says. i'd rather lose, just letting you know. serena's second violation was for smashing her racket in frustration. that's when the ump hit serena with a point penalty. serena then approached him a second time. >> you stole a point from me. you're a thief! >> the ump then penalizing serena again, citing verbal abuse for calling him a thief. because it was her third offense, serena was docked a full game. at this point, serena is in tears. she was bleeding with officials, noting men do and say far worse
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on the court without punishment. >> it's not right. that is not right. that's not right. this is not fair. >> the final score, 6-2, 6-4, osaka. andy scholes joining me now from flushing meadows, new york. lot of reaction after this happened. has it cooled down at all? what are people saying today. >> i'll tell you what, erica, this was one of the wildest sporting events i've ever attended, and i never thought i would say that about the u.s. open women's finals. the fans were getting so emotional in the stands last night watching what was unfolding with serena on the court as she was breaking down, just pleadsing hing her case. they were booing at the top of her lungs, ever since serena had her first spat with the umpire, carlos ramos.
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they were even unhappier as things unfolded. i caught up with a lot of the fans as they were leaving here last night. many of them very proud of the way serena stood up for herself. >> it is so hard to stand there and speak your truth in a moment where you also have to show humility and class and grace. it's a challenge. she walked that line perfectly. >> do you feel what happened to her was sexist? >> absolutely. absolutely. she's an athlete. >> racist. i would venture to say there's a racial divide that continues to show itself. as a corporate woman, i experienced it in the workplace. to me, serena was just at work today, and she had an experience that happens whether you're in the political space, whether you're in the entrepreneurial space. it's what happens. >> and are you proud of the way serena handled it? >> incredibly. i learned a lesson today. i was not handling it like that in the stands. >> reporter: so that was the way many of the fans felt.
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some other fans felt difficultl differently. when the news of her fine for $17,000 for those violations came out earlier today, one fan tweeting on social media, rightfully so, she should also apologize to the ump, the fans, and osaka. what's even more shameful is the fact she then hid behind sexism. as far as i'm concerned, a fine wasn't enough. now, erica, the wta did put out a statement last night saying they were going to look into what happened in this u.s. women's final, but for the time being, they were going to celebrate naomi osaka because that's what got lost in all of this. it was supposed to be one of the most special days ever in this girl's life. beating her idol, first grand slam title, just 20 years old. yet, she didn't really get to celebrate it because of what was unfolding in the match. >> interesting, we saw serena make that point as they were about to -- at the end when they were presenting the trophies. she really wanted the focus to
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be on naomi as well. andy scholes, appreciate it. thank you. serena williams was upset but gracious in defeat. she very clearly said she didn't want to take the spotlight from naomi osaka at the trophy presentation, knowing that moment belonged to her. williams, though, did open up more in that post-match press conference. >> i'm here fighting for women's rights and for women's equality and for all kinds of stuff, and for me to say thief and for him to take a game, it made me feel like it was a sexist remark. i mean, like, he's never took a game from a man because they said thief. for me, it blows my mind. >> well, hers wasn't the only minds that was blown. plenty of people looking at a double standards and talking about it online, a double standards in how the rules are applied. it certainly resonated with another tennis legend. billie jean king tweeting, when
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a woman is emotional, she's hysterical. when a man does it, he's emotional, and there are no repercussions. thank you, serena williams, for calling out this standard. more voices are needed to do the same. joining me now is james blake, a commentator for the tennis channel. you're one of those voices who did speak up. you tweeted afterwards, i'll admit i've said worse and not gotten penalized. you've been given a soft warning and not the violation like serena saw. is there a double standard in tennis today? >> well, you know, i think billie jean king said it accurately. there's always been a double standard in terms of perception. i was hopeful that in the actual policing or penalizing of the sport that the umpires would do a good job of keeping it consistent. here i didn't really feel like there was that consistency at the u.s. open. the rule for changing the shirt on the court was ridiculous. for serena, in the finals of a grand slam, to have something
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that really -- she called him a liar and a thief, didn't cuss at him, didn't do anything, in my opinion, that was overly demonstrative to make it so heshds gihe should give her a game penalty. it was over the line. for everyone who says she needs to control her emotions or show restraint, yes, she should, but so should he. i feel like it's the same at the eb end of a basketball game or football game. you got to let the football players decide. you don't want the refs or umps to be the big story in a championship game. i feel like unfortunately this is the case. >> meaning that you think the umpire made this about him? >> yeah, i think it's getting towards the end of a match possibly and he makes that critical of a decision, he knows that's going to affect the match. that's going to affect the story
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line. instead of letting the players play and maybe telling her, if he had told her, look, serena, if you continue doing this and attacking my integrity, if you're attacking my integrity and continue down this path, then i'm going to have to give you a violation. if he does that and she then continues and keeps going with it, then i'm totally fine with it. but not to g.i. her that warning, not to give her that opportunity, i think it was too much. he stepped over the line, in my opinion. >> so serena was fined $17,000 today. not a lot of people very supportive of that. i'm interested in your take on both the fine and what you think should happen to this umpire. >> the fine is -- i don't have a problem with that. she was always going to get fined for smashing a racket. you smash a racket, it depends on the scene, how many viewers are watching. lucky enough for serena, i don't think she'll have trouble paying that fine. >> i don't think anybody thinks it's about the money. it's more about the principle. it wasn't just about the racket in the fine. >> yeah, the fine, any time
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you're given a code of conduct penalty and it's on a stage like that, you're going to get a fine. i don't have a problem with that. what should happen to the umpire, that's interesting. i've always been a fan of accountability. if the wta goes back and reviews it and feels that carlos ramos didn't do the right thing, then there should be an accountability, whether he's demoted from being a gold medal standard umpire or if he's just taken off of a few big matches, whatever the case may be. i do feel like there should be some accountability. if they feel like he let the moment get to him, then okay, take him off. >> what else needs to change here? you mentioned the issue with the shirt. then we see djokovic sitting for minutes on ends without a shirt while his opponent is changing his shirt. the calls from the umpires. what needs to change in tennis
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overall? can this double standard go away? >> well, as i said, i always feel like the perception was there. that, i hope, is changing. but the way the sport is refereed, that absolutely needs to be consistent. it can't be that if an umpire feels like they're been shown up by a female as opposed to being shown up by a male, if there's going to be different repercussions. that's somewhere i don't know if the ipf or the wita need to get together and start making a much more clear sense of what is showing someone up. there is a very big gray area. there's different umpires doing it different ways. so that could be the case. whether it's in the atp or wta, they need to really make sure that they're going to get in line with each other so there is consistency. that's generally what players want in all sports. >> you know, the same rules for everyone on the court. wouldn't that be a novel thing? james blake, always appreciate you taking some time for us. thank you. >> my pleasure. thank you.
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breaking news, leslie moonves, the heads of cbs who's faced several allegations of sexual misconduct in recent weeks, including six women whose stories were shared today, is stepping down. his exit part of an ongoing corporate battle for control of cbs. cnn's senior media correspondent and host of "reliable sources" brian stelter broke the story. what do we know now? >> we know moonves has agreed to the terms of his departure. this will be announced either tonight or first thing tomorrow morning. it's one of these situations where there might have to be paperwork signed, but it's a done deal. this is sort of two stories at once. this is a corporate boardroom battle that's been going on for months, but this is also a serious #metoo case. it's the first time a fortune 500 ceo has taken leave in the #metoo world. of course, it's ronan farrow that helped bring this to fruition. it was his reporting about
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harvey weinstein that started this movement. now here we are almost a year later with questions about whether he's going to make a lot of money on the way out the door. one thing is for sure. he is stepping down. >> there's also -- in these new accounts, also coming from ronan's latest article for "the new yorker," which came out today. but you talk about these two stories playing out at once. there's the battle for cbs that was already happening. they're inextricably linked at this point. >> there's an incredible confluence of events. if you talk to moonves' side, they're saying this is just about the boardroom battle. you talk to the other side, they're saying he was taken down by these allegations against him. finally this is a moment of accountability. you talk about what farrow has, he had six women back in july. he has six more women in today's story. a dozen allegations of harassment and assault. some of them quite disturbing. they're up on
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>> there's also a lot of outrage about what we were hearing initially, what he could walk away with in terms of money. what do we know about that? >> part of what moonves is saying in his defense, he's saying the new stories in "the new yorker," the most appalling accusations are untrue. he said he did have consensual relations with three of the women named, but he's saying he never abused his power, for example, by trying to take jobs away from women who rebuffed his advances. he ends by saying anyone who knows me knows the person described in this article is not me. it's interesting how he's saying this is part of an effort to destroy his career and destroy his name. he might be implying it's part of that boardroom battle. her camp denies that. ultimately, this is about money. as you're saying, this is about money. unlike a lot of the #metoo cases where there are millions involved, hundreds of millions of dollars are involved in this case. if moonves is removed today for no good reason, he'd be owed
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$180 million, according to the terms of his contract. now today with these accusations of harassment and assault, he might still get $100 million or he might get zero or somewhere in between. this is what the lawyers will be negotiating and fighting about for months. we've heard from time's up advocates today saying he shouldn't get a dollar. he shouldn't get a penny of this. so we're now moving into a new phase of #metoo. the question is how much money is moonves going to walk away with? >> that is fascinating in all of this. oh, the palace intrigue. brian, appreciate it. as the white house scrambles to finds the anonymous author after that scathing op-ed, vice president pence says he'll take a lie detector test to move it was not him. now one former trump campaign adviser is speculating he does know who's behind it and dropping clues. plus, opening sundays for the nfl. did any players decide to take a knee? also, why those who do may not face punishment after all. ♪ hungry eyes
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the vice president of the united states says hook me up to a polygraph. he's talking about the big mystery which is still hanging over the white house, the one the white house won't stop talking about, who is the high-ranking insider behind that anonymous op-ed? the one that set off a five-alarm scramble in the west wing. here's a look at all of the people -- by the way, there are more than those you see on your screen -- but these are the ones who have said, not me. >> should all top officials take a lie detector test, and would you agree to take one? >> i would agree to take it in a heartbeat and would submit to any review the administration -- >> whomever wrote that opinion piece says they're part of a, quote, resistance inside the administration, one that's actively working to contain what he or she calls half-baked and ill-informed decisions made by president trump. so is there a name? now one former trump campaign
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official says he's fairly sure he knows who it is. >> let me tell you, fredricka, i'm fairly certain i know who it is. i've been going through this parlor game like everybody else has. i'm also completely 100% certain that the person who wrote this is on the list of people who said they didn't write it. >> all right. so who do you think it is? >> i'm not going to go into that. my attorney tells me it's a bad idea. but i can tell you this. i believe, first of all -- >> so you talked to your attorney. you've consulted your attorney. you've said, i think i know who this is based on certain language that was used, and you've consulted your attorney -- >> based on language. right, based on language, based on the fact that i believe that these kinds of people leave a trail of crumbs when they're trying to deceive people around them. that's the way it always is. >> cnn's ryan nobles is at the white house. the good old trail of crumbs. just like hansel and gretel
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apparently, which we know the white house has been trying to follow as well. they're talking about it a lot, ryan. >> reporter: yeah, they really are, erica. the question as to whether or not this is dogging this administration is answered pretty simply just by the amount of time white house officials are being forced to spend talking about this particular issue. the simple fact you have the vice president of the united states on television today saying that he'd be willing to take a lie detector test to officially rule him out as a potential suspect shows just how difficult this process has been for the white house. and just take aside what we've seen publicly, we also know that behind the scenes, the president himself is obsessed with the search for this author and with good reason. many of his associates believe that this person is essentially a traitor to the trump administration, and they're very concerned with the fact that this person is involved in meetings on a daily basis and could be actively working right now to undermine the system. the problem is it doesn't seem as though they're getting any closer to figuring out exactly who that person is. "the new york times" has gone to
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great lengths to protect this person's identity. and even though more than 25 different people have said that they're not the person who wrote this op-ed, as you can see from what you play in that clip from michael caputo, that doesn't necessarily mean that those in charge here or those whoclose t the president believe all those people. >> that is for sure. ryan nobles, appreciate it. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. >> well, as ryan was pointing out, trump white house officials today hitting the sunday news show circuit to talk about that anonymous op-ed. keeping the speculation and story alive. patri patrick, our own reporting here is that staffers, including kellyanne conway, have really been trying to get the president to move on. and yet, they're not. they're putting themselves out there and talking about it. are we stuck in this news cycle until the writer is unveiled? >> well, until president trump, you know, calms down over it. i mean, he's been, you know, saying on twitter that this is
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meaningless, you know, this is not a reflection of the white house. at the same time, suggesting that jeff sessions should launch an investigation. then internally, this goes to two sort of, you know, core vulnerabilities for president trump. that's around loyalty and control. when he feels that either is getting out of his grasp, he can get -- and we saw this during the campaign, over the years with his business in the presidency. he can get very frustrated, very angry, and he wants answers. he feels like whoever wrote this, you know, violated both loyalty to him and his ability to sort of control things on the inside. now, we know that that ability has been, you know, getting away from him for a long time now in the white house, but how this sort of settles down, it all sort of begins and ends with the president's mood and discomfort with it. >> oh, so it'll be interesting to see. when we hear from ex-trump campaign adviser michael caputo,
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and he's saying, well, you know, it's a female, i can't say much more, does he have any credibility here? >> absolutely not, erica. i'm glad you asked that question. i mean, i watched the interview, which by the way, fredricka was great, wasn't she? coming down hard on him. he says that he can figure it out based partly on the language used. later in the interview, he said it was probably a ghost writer and you couldn't look for sure at the language and know who it was. well, which is it? make up your mind. i think he's obviously -- you know, in saying my attorney told me i can't say, come on. that's just unbelievable. of course he's hinting very much at who he thinks it is by saying that the person's a she and by saying there's a trail of crumbs left because whenever someone tries to deceive, they do that. i personally think he must be talking about nikki haley, and the trail of crumbs is the factfact nikki haley wrote in "the
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washington post" saying it wasn't me. he's being very disingenuous trying to claim his lawyer told him not to. i mean, my guess is he must have some kind of grudge against nikki haley and is using this. but again, that's what happens when you have these sorts of stories. everybody plays the parlor game, to use the words he did, and using their own motivations to try to turn the narrative in the way that they would like. that would make them look good. >> in terms of the narrative, what's fascinating is the media blitz we were seeing from the white house is not focused on refuting the claims in the letter. in fact, here's what kellyanne conway told jake tapper earlier today. >> what really was the motivation? if the motivation is what they state it is in that ridiculous op-ed, they failed miserably. they missed the mark completely. i think the motivation was to sow discord and create chaos. i refuse to be a part of that. >> discord and chaos. i mean, let's be honest, these are words we've heard before
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associated with this administration, long before there was a letter. do you buy that, that this letter is not about exposing these concerns that the author talked about and the disfunction? it's about instead creating chaos in the west wing. >> no, i think the essay is very clear. it's someone from a senior administration official inside the trump white house who is in a lot of ways validating a lot of the reporting that "the times, " cnn, "the washington post" has done over the past year enough. someone saying they're supportive and sympathetic to traditional republican policy agenda, to some of the aims the administration has spursued and has made achievements on but who is really underscoring the fact that all of this is coming about in spite of sort of the daily paroxysms and chaos that president trump from when he starts going on twitter, stomping on the message that the white house would like to focus on that day, from his rallies when he could be talking about
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job growth and the economy, you know, and instead is trying to sort of settle scores. the person is trying to say, you know, we're trying to do sort of the best that we can in spite of him and in some ways trying to sort of contain the chaos. >> all right. here we go. get ready for day six of the washington parlor game, who wrote the op-ed. kelly, patrick, thank you both. >> thank you. when president obama left office, he said he wanted to stay out of the spotlight. his scathing speech slamming president trump on friday, though, has put him squarely back in its focus. we'll speak with his former speech writer next in the cnn newsroom. what's with him? he's happy. your family's finally eating vegetables thanks to our birds eye voila skillet meals. and they only take 15 minutes to make.
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before leaving office, president obama told reporters, quote, i want to be quiet a little bit and not hear myself talk so darn much. well, the time for quiet appears to be over. accepting an award on friday, the former president didn't mince words. >> it did not start with donald trump. he is a symptom, not the cause. [ applause ] he's just capitalizing on resentments that politicians have been fanning for years. it shouldn't be democratic or republican to say we don't target certain groups of people based on what they look like or how they pray. we are americans. we're supposed to stands up to bullies. [ applause ] not follow them. and we're sure as heck supposed
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to stands up clearly and unequivocally to nazi sympathizers. how hard can that be, saying that nazis are bad? and if you thought elections don't matter, i hope these last two years have corrected that impression. >> joining me now is the former speech writer for president obama and author of the book "thanks, obama." david, obviously you spent a fair amount of time with the president. you know how things work with speeches. when you hear what he had to say on friday, that fiery speech, really no holds barred, just curious your reaction. >> well, first of all, thank you for having me on. it is always fun to talk about president obama's speeches, especially since now i don't have to do the hard work of helping being on the team that's working on them. when we were in the white house, when we were writing president obama's speeches, the question that always came up is what do we want the headline to be? i would say the headline here, one of the things president obama said is this moment is different. i think that in all sorts of ways was the message of his
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speech top to bottom. as you pointed out, he said, i would like to be quiet, but he had also said around the same time, if things get really out of hand, if things are anti-democratic as we fear they might be, i may have to say something. this is him saying something. >> that would not be the headline, though, that you would see for what he had to say at his first campaign event in california yesterday. so the day after that fiery speech, he didn't mention president trump by name. he was not nearly as forceful in his language. there was a lot of hope in there, but that doesn't always work in terms of getting voters to the polls. we saw that, you know, even what he had to say in 2016 didn't help hillary clinton in terms of getting voters to the polls. so if the saturday speech is what he's going to given on the campaign trail, what needs to change for it to be effective? >> i think the most important thing you need to remember, the number that you need to keep in mind when president obama is out campaigning this fall is 60%. that was about his approval rating when he left office. unfortunately, it was not his aproi approval rating the last midterms. so when i was still on the white house staff, we would have loved
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that. but his approval improved dramatically in those years. a lot of what he's doing is saying you trust me, more than most figures in american politics today. if you do, look at these other candidates, tying both himself to the democrats who are running and remindsing peopling people, want to bring decency and sanity back to politics, vote for these people. also saying, if you're concerned about trump -- he called out trump on friday, but more than that, he said trump is a symptom. he tied trump to the republican party. he's saying if you're concerned about the craziness in the white house, if you're concerned about the lawlessness, here are seven people if you live in southern california. you may be able to vote for one of them. >> i want to get your take on this. the palace intrigue we can't get away from in washington, this op-ed in "the new york times." a former speech writer for former president clinton says he thinks it could be a speech writer because of the alliteration used. anything that stands out? do you think it could be a speech writer or anyone else? >> well, the sentences were coherent, so i don't think it
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was the president. >> ouch. >> well, we've read his twitter feed. i would say outside of that, i just don't care at this point. i don't think it was telling us that much we don't already know. this was an op-ed saying basically president trump is not fit for office. we've seen a lot of evidence. if you don't agree with that now, you're probably not going to agree with that because of this op-ed. my view for people in the white house for the people running around playing private de detective, just do your job. there are people counting on you in all sorts of ways whether we're democrats or republicans or independents. go to work. think about something else for a change. >> a lot of people have said, you know, there's kind of a lack of credibility here if you can't even put your name on it. would you agree? >> i don't think there's a lot to be credible about someone saying trump's not a great president, not fit for office. okay. you know, i don't think we need a signature behind that. i think we all can see it, or we
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can make up our own minds. >> david, appreciate. -- appreciate it. thank you. it is opening sundays for the nfl. so what happens? protests during the national anthem. who took a knee. up next, you'll hear from one football player who was also a green beret who met with colin kaepernick in the early days of his first protest. he joins us next.
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national anthem isn't a policy. yes, you heard that correct. a source telling espn the league won't implement a rule this season after initially saying it would. joining me now, army veteran and green beret nate boyer, who played football at the university of texas and then with the seattle seahawks. so much back and forth with the league and what the nfl plans to do. what's your take on this latest news that the league says nothing to see here, there's not going to be a rule? >> well, i mean, i think they've been talking about that for the last few weeks. you know, there was a big backlash when the news came out that they were going to implement a rule. and it's an interesting, you know, debate, seeing as the nba implemented a similar rule years ago. the way we see the nba, they have such a better relationship with their players and their association office. so the nfl is doing what they can, i think. i think it just took a little
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too long, a year and a half initially from when they really started to address are we going to make this a policy or not after colin's initial protest. i will say this in defense of the league. i think through this, they're doing a better job more and more, working with the players, really hearing them out, taking them into account and not just ownership. without players, there is no league. there is no football. >> no, and that's so important. from the beginning, you have talked so much about you and colin kaepernick first coming together in those days after his first protest. you talked about supporting colin kaepernick and other players and their right to protest during the anthem, even if you may not agree with the method. this week you wrote, that's an unpopular place to stand these days, in the radical middle, defending someone you somewhat disagree with. it's hard for me to grasp why this is so difficult for people from both ends of the political spectrum to understand. it's okay to be different. it's what makes us the same. embrace it. and remember that nobody's a
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perfect patriot, especially not me. and it's sad and true that it is, for some reason, so difficult for people to understand. do you think anything or anyone can change that, nate? >> yeah, i think every one of us can. i've been saying this more and more lately, and i really want to emphasize it. i think we need to take more responsibility on ourselves as citizens, as individuals, you know, to not only be good to our neighbors but be good to those people we don't consider our neighbors. too often we're blaming people, whether they're in political power or whether they're people that are very outspoken like colin and some of these other players. we let their words affect us way too much, and the way sometimes their words are maybe spun. we need to look in the mirror and take on responsibility and just be bigger thattn that. we're smarter than we're acting right now. we're choosing to be ignorant on both sides of the aisle, and
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we're choosing to be divisive. you can be very patriotic and open minded at the same time. we're sort of losing that in our country today. >> i think there are a lot of americans who would agree with you. i love that you say nobody is a perfect patriot. that word has become so politicized and really become a political pawn, which is so unfortunate. and sometimes people are even throwing veterans and active duty military in on that. i'm just curious, how do you feel when people get upset on your behalf? when they don't know you. >> exactly. and i want to be the first to say that, look, i don't speak for every veteran, obviously. i speak for myself and that's it. i don't want to pretend to do that because i've had a lot of people, you know, that have been upset with my opinions and feelings on things. they have every right to do that. i want people to understand that just because i support all of these players' right to speak out and what i believe is a first amendment right that i fought for, whether i agree with it or not, it doesn't make it the end all. you know what i mean? there's plenty of people that wore the camouflage that
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disagree with me, and they have every right to do that. i love them just as much. i fought for the man on my left and right. some of them didn't even wear american flags on their shoulders. some of them were avenue zbfgha iraqis. i don't agree with every custom, culture, and opinion they have. but we bled together. ultimately, we're good in our corps, almost everybody in the world. we want the same things for our family, for ourselves, for our life, and for our future. we need to realize that. i think we do. and yeah, we just need to smile a little bit more. my dad tells me to always smile more when i do these things. everything is going to be all right. >> you're doing a fine job. so i hope your dpad will approv today. listen, i think this goes back to a lesson we learned from you early on when you started talking about the conversation you and colin had, which was that you listened to one another. so hopefully we can all do a little more of that as well. nate, we're out of time, but i look forward to speaking with you again. >> i appreciate you. thanks for the time. north korea celebrating its 70th anniversary with a big parade. this one, though, is a little
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good stepping soldiers, color flags, flanplanes that fl over. there were no icbms on display. kim jong-un playing off an economic message and earned parades from trump in the process. north has really put these long range missiles on full display.
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what's the strategy behind leaving them out? >> reporter: well, clearly this is a message to have the united states specifically and the world that north korea, they still have the nuclear weapons. they haven't denuclearized. they haven't destroyed any missiles or warheads according to u.s. intelligence. they don't have any intention of doing that but they're not putting them on public display. they are keeping them hidden which is good enough for now for president trump who did tweet after the parade footage aired that he appreciates kim jong-un's attempts to move toward denuclearization. north korea hasn't done anything. they haven't been transparent what about they possess.
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