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public hearing. brett kavanaugh and his accuser to speak in front of the world and under oath about the sexual assault allegation threatening to derail his supreme court nomination. the waters and the death toll rising in the aftermath of hurricane florence, and now a tornado outbreak on the heels of the monster storm. plus, a third interkorean summit. south korea's president meets kim jong-un in pyongyang trying to revive stalled nuclear talks. hello and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and from all around the world. i'm rosemary church and this is
"cnn newsroom." well, the american public will soon get to hear directly from the woman accusing brett kavanaugh of sexual assault more than three decades ago. the u.s. supreme court nominee and christine blaise ford will testify before a senate committee monday. ford says back in high school a drunken kavanaugh held her down and tried to take off her clothes. kavanaugh denies the allegation. president trump is coming to kavanaugh's defense. on monday he called the judge one of the finest people he's ever known, but he said he is open to a delay in order to keep the process going and eventually getting kavanaugh confirmed. well, democrats are calling for a more thorough investigation of ford's claims. cnn's jessica snider reports. >> reporter: brett kavanaugh
stepped into the white house monday morning amid a swirl of uncertainty. kavanaugh offering to tell lawmakers his side of the story as his accuser, christine blaise ford says she'll testify too. kavanaugh released this statement. this is a completely false allegation. i have never done anything like what the accuser describes, to her or to anyone. because this never happened i have no idea who was making this accusation until she identified herself yesterday. i am willing to speak with the senate committee to refute the allegation from 36 years ago and defend my integrity, but the lawyer says her client's story will stand up. >> she's telling the truth. she took a polygraph. she mentioned this to her -- in her therapy sessions in 2012. she came forward before this nominee was nominated. >> reporter: now all ten democrats on the senate judiciary committee are calling for the vote currently scheduled for thursday to be delayed.
>> chuck grassley and others have to make sure that the american people believe that everyone is being treated fairly. rushing this through is not treating someone fairly. >> reporter: key republican senator susan collins pushed for more public hearings. chairman chuck grassley hasn't promised more hearings only saying anyone who comes forward as dr. ford has deserves to be heard so i will continue working on a way to hear her out. blaise ford told the washington post about the alleged attack when she and kavanaugh were in high school and in her letter said kavanaugh physically pushed me in a bedroom. with his hand over my mouth i feared he might inadvertently kill me. mark judge was also in the room. judge has denied the incident but judge has described his
drunken high school daze in "wasted, tales of a gen x drunk noimpt i heard he puked in someone's car the other night. yeah, he passed out on his way back from a party. meanwhile, blaise ford's attorney alleges sexual assault. >> she believes that but for his inebriation and his inability to take her clothes off he would have raped her. >> reporter: the accuser's attorney said she struggled whether to come forward and finally talked to the washington post after her identity became known through press reports. we are expecting to hear from cavanaugh's accuser at a public hearing monday. the senate judiciary committee will hear testimony from both christine blaise ford and judge ca kavanaugh at a 10:00 a.m. hearing. i'm joined now by joan bescobic. she is a cnn supreme court analyst. so good to have you with us. >> thank you. >> so, joan, as a journalist,
author and lawyer, you have covered the supreme court since 1989 including the confirmation of clarence thomas including when anita hill testified. now those parallels are being drawn. there are a number of differences, too. of course, this all comes in the midst of the me too era, but how likely is it that the outcome will be any different? >> i think we just don't quite kn know. we'll know much more once his accuser, christine blaise ford, has a chance to testify and we get a chance to see what kind of witness is she? how does she present these allegations of his sexual attack that she alleges from the time they were teenagers in suburban, maryland? then how does he counter it? you mentioned 1991. i have to say anita hill was
quite a compelling witness, but so wasn't clarence thomas, and the senators just couldn't break the difference there and he got on the supreme court by a vote of 52 to 48 which for our country was the closest supreme court confirmation in more than a century. but i should say that he had a lot of democratic support at the time. 11 democrats switched over to help him, a republican appointee. right now the key difference is that we're so polarized in a partisan way that it will be very hard, i think, for any democrat to switch over, although as i caution, we don't know yet how things will unfold on monday. >> no, we don't. of course, you know, as you point out, that confirmation vote for brett kavanaugh had been set for thursday. it has now been delayed and now instead we're looking at this public hearing on monday where we will hear testimony from both
brett kavanaugh and christine blaise ford. how will there be snuff how will there be enough time to make a fair judgment on who is telling the truth? >> that's an excellent question. i should tell you that senator dianne feinstein, who is the senior democrat on the committee, has raised exactly those concerns and said there won't be enough time, that there should be an investigation by the fbi, there should be more questioning beyond just these two witnesses. senate judiciary chairman chuck grassley has scheduled only two witnesses, christine ford and brett kavanaugh, and there are a lot of other questions swirling around this and we'll have to see, as i said, how they present themselves, the kinds of questions that senators themselves ask and what kind of firm answers they give. there's so much to be determined. we only know both of them
essentially through their public statements through others. the interview in the washington post that was just 24 hours ago that we first learned her name and what her claim was. >> yeah, this has moved very quickly. it was only just a matter of hours ago that they were going to go ahead with thursday's vote so this is moving and galloping along very quickly. how likely could it be that the other witnesses who were at that high school party will be questioned at some point for corroboration. surely that needs to be done. isn't that the only way to get to the truth of the matter? the guy mark judge who was there in the room with them apparently, although he has said he has no memory of this taking place but there were other young people who were there in the other part of the house. there's so much more that we need to learn about this to get to the truth of the matter. surely the senators feel that is a requirement here.
>> one would think. the democrats definitely feel that way. republicans just want to move it along, try to instill some confidence in key swing votes that they will need for his confirmation if they can get it. so they have more of a speed mentality here, whereas, the democrats are trying to slow this. one thing we haven't addressed but i do want to mention because it gives the context here. he is nominated to a very crucial seat to succeed anthony kennedy, who has been a swing vote on our supreme court and has been the justice who has kept affirmative action, has kept abortion rights, been very critical. he wrote our -- the ruling in the same-sex marriage case back in 2015. so a lot is riding on this
lifetime seat. so republicans want it to happen and they want it to happen quickly. they're not going to get it for thursday but now they're trying to schedule this hearing for monday and hopefully from their minds have a vote pretty quickly thereafter, but i think the democrats feel like right now time is on their side and even if those individuals you referred to, mark judge and others who might have been at the party in question, aren't questioned under oath, they might come forward in other news stories. there are several days until next monday and i think we might see further allegations. >> and it's exactly that reason when you say, you know, lifetime seat there on the supreme court, it is important that the right person is in that position and that's why they do need to take the time to get to the truth of the matter here. we should be watching this very closely, of course. joan, thank you very much for joining us. appreciate it. >> thank you. and we will have more on this story later this hour.
but to another story we're watching very closely, a report by north korea's state agency says the u.s. is totally to believe for a stealemate in talks. south korea's government is trying to get those talks on track. moon jae-in is on his way to north korea. it's been all smiles for the two leaders as thousands lined the roads earlier to watch the motorcade drive by, but very soon it's down to business, namely, trying to make progress towards denuclearization and perhaps a formal end to the korean war. let's turn to our paula hancock. she is following this story from seoul in south korea. she joins us live from there. paula, north korea's kim jong-un offered a very warm welcome to south korea's man jae-in.
then we see this very aggressive language blaming the u.s. for a stalemate in dialogue. how much harder will this make moon jae-in's role as he tries to bring the u.s. and north korea closer together? >> reporter: well, rosemary, this was no accident that this article is coming out on the same day at the same time that president moon jae-in is being so warmly welcomed by kim jong-un. there's a huge amount of pomp and ceremony. as you say, that motorcade going through the streets of pyongyang and both leaders hanging out waiving to people lining the routes. the fact is, we are seeing the north korean state runnemede yeah agency saying the u.s. is totally to blame for the stalemate. this isn't something new we're hearing, but the timing as moon jae-in is stepping in and that
is something that you really can't ignore. now from the north korean point of view, according to this article, their issue is the united states wants full denuclearization and then they want to talk about potential concessions or lifting of sanctions or the declaration of the end of the korean war. that is fairly accurate. this is what washington has said all along. they want to see the denuclearization first before they give concessions first. from the north korean point of view, they want more of a qu quid pro quo. they're talking about present and the north koreans are talking about future. it's all down to tense. what president trump is trying to do is bring those positions together. it will be a tricky balancing act for him but he has said before he left for this summit that he wanted to see a bold
action, a courageous action from the north koreans and then he could go to washington and try to get the same from the americans. rosemary? >> it is a delicate operation. paula hancock joining us live from seoul, south korea. she is watching all of this play out in pyongyang. we will see you next hour. we appreciate it. a short break here. still to come, the storm that won't give up is posing new threats. thousands can't return home because rivers are rising to record levels. and as if devastating flooding and endless rain wasn't enough, what's left of florence is now bringing tornadoes as it moves north. we're back with all of that. g. we distribute environmentally-friendly packaging for restaurants. and we've grown substantially. so i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. and last year, i earned $36,000 in cash back.
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welcome back, everyone. well, what is left of hurricane florence is moving north, but it's still posing new threats. the storm brought several tornadoes to virginia where at least one person was killed, and the disaster in the carolinas could get worse as rivers rise to dangerous levels. this new video shows one of the communities now completely yuntd water. 32 people are now confirmed dead
and the historic and catastrophic flooding is expected to continue for days. our scott mcclain has more from conway, south carolina. >> reporter: widespread flooding, impassable roads and bridges and entire communities underwater. florence has weakened and moved northward, but the next threat is still rising. >> some areas have not seen the worst flooding yet. >> reporter: the worst may still be ahead. rivers rise. some won't crest for days. the coast guard and rescue teams from across the country are scrambling to help those stranded in homes and cars. north carolina a 1-year-old drowned after he was swept away by rushing water. his mother drove through a flooded area and tried to escape her car while holding the child but lost her grip. >> driving through water where the roads are closed is
dangerous for anybody. we had some success and then we had some tragedy. >> reporter: meanwhile, volunteers are braving flooded roads and high water vehicles to bring food, water, supplies to cut off communities. lunberton teeters on failure. hurricane matthew made its unwelcome visit. >> we're throwing everything we have at it. where we're standing it scoured 23 feet deep when matthew came through. >> reporter: the time to return home is still unknown for thousands. >> we do not want evacuees to go back. we do not want that to happen right now. there's too much going on. >> this is worse than matthew. >> reporter: in lower south carolina pastor tim osmond woke up to the smell of smoke from his electrical circuits shorting out and rushing water as the storm sent more than two feet of water through his basement.
moments later he was moving through a knee deep fast moving current. >> it was up to my knees and i'm 6 feet tall so that much water moving swiftly, it can take you off your feet. >> reporter: osmond has flood insurance. carle mccall does not. >> need help. need it bad. >> reporter: he had to walk out of his apartment in waist deep water. it's the second time he's been flooded in the past two years. this printing company across the street, they are still operating though they've resorted to shuttling their products across the street by boat. they have conceded they will flood. they don't think they can save the whole building. they've sand bagged around their biggest, most expensive pieces of equipment. right now the water is a couple of inches from the door though this river is forecast to rise three feet. conway, south carolina. adam emrick is the city
administrator in conway, south carolina. he joins me now with the very latest on the situation there. and i understand your biggest concern right now clearly is the flooding but more specifically is this make shift dam and the concern that this water will flood into the neighboring areas. talk to us about how likely it is that that will happen and what your biggest concerns are. >> certainly. we had a major concern that we think has been a little bit alleviated. the department of transportation here for south carolina has acted very swiftly to begin erecting a barricade along one of the major roads that comes from the city of conway and goes towards myrtle beach. the intent of that barricade is to block water from overcoming the road and overcoming the bridge as that will be the last bridge and last road that gets people from myrtle beach and out and people into myrtle beach, and that includes all food, all gas, everything.
that is the life line is what they're calling it. our concern is that that barricade might block water that is flooding and trying to get out of our wacauma river and back to the ocean. we asked questions yesterday and we're not given answers quickly. that necessitated the city council to begin pursuing an action against the state to begin to explain to us and explain to our citizens that we were doing everything we could to protect them from flood waters that might be caused by a manmade barrier instead of nature. today we were fortunate to have the highest level transportation person from the state, transportation secretary christine hall to fly in. she spent a number of hours with us and dedicated staff time as well as herself to us. the engineers explained to us exactly what is going on, what they're doing. they gave us a tour. i think the fears we had and the concerns we had have been alleviated almost completely.
i think we can say with a straight face to our citizens that everything that can be done to protect them has been done. we've done our due diligence to protect them and it's not the greater good that we're looking at here, it is everybody's good. >> that is a relief you've come to that point because flooding has been the major problem for most people across the number of states this has affected. so what are the other challenges then for the people ? people have lost their homes. people are sheltering. what is likely to happen to the people in the next few days, weeks and months because it's going to take a very long time to get back to normal, isn't it? >> that's right. those are all very good questions, and the storm has been a lot different than most storms. most storms last between 8 and 12 hours, they cause an immediate flash flood that we have to respond to with swift water rescue and things like that. those waters will subside slightly for a couple of days
and then the rivers will rise and the rivers will cause sustained flooding. it happened in 2013 after hurricane juaqin and now it's happening again but florence is different because the rain event lasted days. it lasted three and a half days with heavy rains coming over and over and over again, and what that caused is the immediate flash flooding of those other events that happened in the first 12 hours did not occur until today after the rain subsided. we had areas of the city flooding today after our residents thought they were going to be out of the woods and areas that flooded so far today with that -- with hurricane florence are flooding at a much greater rate than anything else we've seen ever before. we have houses that aren't even in flood plains that are flooding. it's an event that we're still preparing for. when these waters recede, the rivers will start flooding. with river rain flooding it will
get to a level that's higher. we're expecting three feet higher than hurricane matthew which was an all time record. our river record was 17 with matthew. this is going to get to 20. this is something hard to fathom of what we're expecting. we hope to be going door to door in scenarios that might flood in the next couple of days and make sure people know not only to protect their items but to protect themselves so they're not in harm's way. it's going to be a difficult journey for us. those waters don't just come up and subside. they'll come up and stay for two, three, four weeks. we looked at with hurricane matthew, we had sustained flood levels for over 30 days. there will be people who cannot get to their homes for extended periods of time. >> that puts it into perspective. people think the hurricane is gone, it's all over. it's about the flooding. >> that hasn't even gotten here yet.
>> this could be another month, it could be another couple of months as far as you see, right? >> that's right. that's right. we expect the waters to continue to rise through next week and then be here for an extended period of time. >> all right. adam emrick, thank you so much for joining us. we wish you the best and hope things get back to normal sooner rather than later. many thanks. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. so let's turn to our meteorologist pedram javaheri. as we were discussing there, hurricane florence is gone but the flooding will cause problems for weeks and months to come. >> it's rather odd. if you experience the flood, you get outside the rain, the storm, it's sunny and down below you the water continues to rise because all of that water wants to retreat back from the west to the east to the atlantic. here's what's left of post
tropical hurricane florence. it's bound to push off of the coast line and move away. so heavy rainfall expected across parts of new england. what is left rains itself out but really significant damage left in place even down towards virginia where we have 13 tornadoes and we'll spawn tornadoes. tornadoes generally being weak ones. unstable air wants to rise. quite a bit of terrain here that it interacts with. you get sheers. storms want to rotate and that's how you get them. they are in the ef-0 or 1. the data going back to the 1980s shows you a large scale chunk come in being in the lower end and generally getting stronger tornadoes. the flading concern, as you talked about, rosemary, will be a multi-day event or multi-week event. there are hundreds of waterways it has to push back through
before it makes it to the ocean. the story we'll be following for many days to come. >> most definitely. we'll check back in with you next hour, pedram. many thanks for that. >> thank you. the controversy around donald trump's supreme court pick reminds some of another some decades ago. the parallels with justice clarence thomas when we come back. i can't believe it. that everything sticks to stefon diggs's hands? no, i can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with geico. cool, huh? yeah. he plays football, huh? yeah. believe it. geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance.
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south carolina flooding may get even more dangerous as rivers are rising to record levels. the death toll is now up to 32, including one person in virginia who was killed when florence caused several tornadoes. donald trump is ordering the declassification of documents and text messages in the russia investigation. they include parts of a warrant application to surveil former campaign aide carter page. republicans have been asking for the documents for months, but a top democrat calls the release an abuse of power. a woman who says president trump's supreme court pick assaulted her more than 30 years ago will get a public hearing. christine blaise ford will appear before a senate committee on monday. judge wrbrett kavanaugh who dens the allegations will also testify. joining me now from london to talk more about this is freddy gray, deputy editor of "the spectator."
thanks so much for being with us. >> good morning, rosemary. >> now brett kavanaugh and his accuser christine blaise ford will testify in this public hearing. the president is standing by his man, but at the same time he's not attacking the accuser, which is something we haven't seen before. what might this changing tactic signal politically, do you think? >> well, politically, obviously a delay in the nomination, very strong possibility. these are however historic -- suspicious the timing you might say is a very serious accusation. they have to be discussed. >> democrats are calling for a full and fair investigation into the allegations made against kavanaugh. the issue, of course, corroboration. that's critical in getting to the truth of matter by interviewing witnesses. that's not going to happen. instead, the white house is
pulling together its battle plan to support kavanaugh. ford on the other hand won't have the same access to the same level of resources. if that happens, how much closer to the truth will we be? how will they be able to make an afforded decision to see which one is telling the truth on monday? >> that's a very good question. it will be almost impossible. this is a very historic claim. we see this very often with the historic sexual assault claims. do we now live in an era where we have to believe the accuser and now kavanaugh is unfit to be supreme court judge or do we have to delay the whole process until it's after the mid terms which is difficult. this is an extremely difficult -- whatever the rights and wrongs of the case, this is an extremely difficult situation for the trump administration. >> right. whether brett kavanaugh is confirmed for this lifetime spot on the supreme court will ultimately come down to key republican senators, jeff flake,
susan collins, lisa murkowski and bob corker. they are the ones to watch. we don't know who they'll believe in the end, but what do the numbers look like right now? what is at stake here? >> i think two or three minutes, they are inclined to derail the trump presidency anyway, and this might be the opportunity they're looking for. you know, it seems very cynical to talk about such things in light of a rape allegation, but i'm afraid that's what's happening here. there's a very big little game being played on top of this historic alleged crime. >> and if senators are not sure in the end because, of course, without an investigation, how can they be, this would be a matter of he says she says situation, right? will brett kavanaugh always have a cloud hanging over him if he ultimately gets confirmed after all of this plays out.
>> it's very hard to say. i'm not sure it has with clarence thomas. once someone is very publicly accused of rape. i do think it dogs them. of course, if you believe brett calf now, this is at worst a drunken behavior he's used in his youth. it could dog him for the rest of his life. if it does, that's simply sad. and this will be seen as a very wrong political cynical action. >> of course, on the other hand you have the woman who's accusing him, and one could say this has had an incredible impact on her life throughout. so it is a very difficult situation. we will be watching, of course, their testimony on monday to see what the senators think and what the rest of the united states and, indeed, the world think of this. many thanks to you, freddy gray, for joining us and bringing us
your analysis. appreciate it. well, the drama surrounding brett kavanaugh's nomination is drawing comparisons from a scenario that happened 25 years ago. anita hill testified under oath that she suffered sexual harassment by then nominee and now supreme court justice clarence thomas. tom foreman has that report. >> the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you got. >> i do. >> reporter: two federal judges, conservatives. two women, reluctant reporters. what sells different? >> the conversation was very vivid. >> >> reporter: in 1991 when anita hill said her boss, clarence thomas, sexually assaulted her in the '80s, she offered details. >> he talked about pornographic materials depicting individuals with large penises or large
breasts involved in various sex acts. on several occasions thomas told me graphically of his own sexual prowess. >> this is a circus. it's a national disgrace. >> reporter: thomas forcefully denied it all. >> and from my standpoint as a black american, as far as i'm concerned, it is a high tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way dein to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas. >> reporter: brett kavanaugh's accuser, christine blaise ford, is laying out details. she said he pushed me into a bedroom, tried to disrobe me. kavanaugh is saying this is a completely false allegation. i have never done anything like what the accuser describes. the day began with the roy moore revelation and it ends with
charlie rosa cuesed of sexual harassment. >> reporter: so what's different? the times above else. on the roaring tide of the me too movement, many powerful men are being held accountable to alleged wrongs. an earlier survey said 72% believe sexual harassment is a big problem compared to 17% before hill is. >> this time some in the judge's corner agree. >> she should not be ignored. >> reporter: the real question is, of course, what comes next? for all of the uproar and a very close vote, clarence thomas was awarded the nomination.
tom foreman, cnn, washington. let's take a quick break here. still to come, washington's trade dispute with beijing is escalating. president trump's new tariffs and how china is expected to respond. we'll have that and a live report. the u.s. president says america is one of the most generous. why is it raising the number of individuals it will step in you might take something for your heart... or joints. but do you take something for your brain.
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. welcome back, everyone. u.s. president trump is ramping up his trade battle with china. he announced a new 10% tariff on $200 billion worth of chinese imports that will go into effect next week. then in january it will jump to 25%. smart watches, health, and safety devices and children's playpens are being spared the trade penalties. this is on top of earlier
penalties on $50 billion worth of goods. for more on all of this, we are joined by matt rivers. good to see you, matt. so beijing had warned that if the u.s. went ahead and imposed the new tariffs on chinese imports, it would cut off all trade imports with the u.s. what are we dealing with here? how close are we to a trade war? >> i think there's no doubt about it, at least in the opinion of most people that we speak to here in china. they are openly referring to this as a trade war. it's really hard to call it anything else at this point because when these tariffs go into effect next week, that will mean the united states has tariffs on nearly half of all of the chinese imports into the united states. china set to impose another 60 billion in retaliatory amounts. we're waiting for the chinese
government to respond officially today. the earliest response that we're probably going to say there's a daily press briefing. usually the announcements come from the ministry of commerce here in china. make no mistake, we will get $60 billion in new tariffs. 60 on the u.s. side, there is no doubt about it, we are absolutely in the middle of a trade war. >> well, that's pretty sobering, isn't it? is there any way out of here? some sort of negotiation or they've pretty much given up on that. well, you know, it was just last week that they invited the china
part up for another round of negotiations. that means did that not happen but now the president of the you s. is saying they're going forward on september 24th. that's a lot. in terms of an off ramp, the chinese side said they don't have to work under the threat of black mail. the latest run hasn't been completely or officially canceled yet, but i would be very sure priced if they go forward, marjorie. >> we're watching very closely. beijing, it's 2:47 in the afternoon. many thanks. >> the trump administration will slash the amount to record lows of 45,000 will be loaded to
2019. we have more. >> reporter: the admissions of refugees to the u.s. have already been at record lows in a four decades that this program has existed. the current fiscal year cap was set at this level. it was dropped. you clearly see the stance of this administration, the direction it's moving in especially when you consider even with a current 45,000 cap, when you look at how many refugees have actually been admitted so far in 2018, it's only around $20,000. so now the lower cap doesn't mean that even 30,000like admitted. you also have to compare that with the prior administration. under obama, that administration wanted to give 110,000 refugees admitted per year.
this is a stark contrast to that, and we know that some within the white house, including the president himself and his advisor, steven miller, wanted to see the cap set even lower. all of us within the administration got it capped at 45,000. so you see the area was compromised. it is a record low. in his words the u.s. is the most generation nature of the world. gives a lot of money to humanitarian causes. he says that in the next fiscal year, 230,000 have been granted. for the last couple of years the number of people given asylum and entered into the u.s. has hovered around 20,000 a year. they are processing a lot of applications. we'll see how many are actually admitted. this is already drawing some
russia and turkey plan to patrol a demilitaryized zone around the long rebel stronghold in syria. turkish president and russian president vladimir putin announce the agreement for idlib on mono-. calling for rebels to withdraw heavy weapons from the province by next month. defense minister says the syria government planned minister to retake idlib is shelved. >> joining us from instan bull with the latest. how significant is this agreement? can it really avert a full scale attack on idlib. if so for how long and how exactly is this going to work?
>> it is a very significant development for the past couple of weeks we have been talking about what many have been warning could be a blood bath in idlib. it seemed preparations were under way and there was a military operation going to be seemed to be imminent at that point. many of the residents in idlib that we have spoken to say they were hoping that turkey would be able to stop this operation. and this seems to be one of the instances where dediplomacy did avert a humanitarian crisis. but the feeling is this may have been averted at least for now. it really is unclear how this is all going to work out. so you have russia and turkey signed this memorandum of understanding that calls for the creation of this demilitaryize zone. the buffer zone.
between government held territory and rebel held territory. 15 to 20 kilometers deep into idlib. this is supposed to be set up by october 15. october 10, all heavy weapons will be pulled out of this area. and turkey is to ensure that all armed goods including radical groups like the that is the al qaeda linked group will evacuate the area. it's difficult to see how this is all going to be enforced and be implemented. we have seen agreements in the past whether it was cease fire. or the deescalation zone that were turkey and russia were party to. working the short term and collapse. we'll see how it will be any different. for the 3 million civilians in idlib this is a huge relief. at least for now. >> for now. as you point out. joining us live from is stan bull in turkey.
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