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what amazes me is that the women are harder on dr. ford than the men are. valerie jarrett fitzgerald, it is something i always noted with the juries i was picking. women can be very circumspect with regard to other women. don't think it will be a gender lineup as to who we believe. see you next week. it is saturday, september 29th. i hope it is treating you well. i am christi paul. >> i am victor blackwell. top stories, the confirmation of brett kavanaugh, she is not refuting the allegation but doesn't remember it either. and a devastating tsunami. more than 380 people died after an earthquake triggered giant waves that crashed down on beaches in indonesia. compromised. mark zuckerberg among 90 million
users forcibly logged out of facebook after a massive security breach leaves users exposed. you're in the cnn "newsroom." the fbi now has less than a week to finish a new background check on brett kavanaugh after ordered by president trump to shore up support for his supreme court nominee. >> this morning, the attorney for leland keyser says his client will cooperate in the probe. she's a long time friend of christine blasey ford. ford says keyser was at the party, she doesn't remember being there but will not refute dr. ford's account. >> the investigation called for by senator jeff flake. he joined several other senators that said they would not vote yes on kavanaugh without the fbi weighing in. that effectively put brett kavanaugh's confirmation on hold, just when the gop was feeling better about getting votes to confirm it.
>> as he announced the probe, the president said he is still backing his nominee. the president will be in west virginia later today for a re-election rally. >> he is starting this morning at the white house. that's where we start with ryan nobles and cnn reporter kara skinell. >> good morning to you, victor. the president didn't expect to be in this position saturday morning. he thought after the hearing thursday his nominee brett kavanaugh performed well and that would be enough to convince wayward republican senators that his nomination should be confirmed. senator jeff flake from arizona throwing a curve ball delaying the process another week. that does have some at the white house nervous. regardless, the president is not backing away from his nominee. he tweeted recently, just started tonight, our seventh fbi investigation of judge brett kavanaugh. we will someday be recognizing him as a truly great justice of
the united states supreme court. you can tell in the president's language, he is pointing out the fact that brett kavanaugh has been thoroughly vetted a number of times by the fbi over the course of his lengthy career on the federal bench, and he is showing that he remains supportive of kavanaugh. but how long can the support hold. a lot will be determined by what comes out of the investigation that takes place. the white house is growing impatient, as is senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. they want it wrapped up. given a firm deadline of friday for the fbi to look into any more information about credible allegations and to provide that information to the senate. they're hoping that this is something that can move forward by friday, and they're hopeful that brett kavanaugh will eventually become the next justice on the supreme court. victor, christi? >> all right. thank you so much. appreciate it. kara is with us as well. do we have any indication what the fbi is doing now?
>> reporter: we know the fbi was charged with the investigation as of last night, it is part of a supplemental background investigation. what they'll do is go and interview people voluntarily who may have been at the party. we have heard of attorneys from the three people that christine blasey ford has alleged was in the house at the time who said they would voluntarily talk with the fbi. "new york times" is reporting that the fbi has reached out to another individual, deborah ramirez, yale school classmate of judge kavanaugh that said the fbi did reach out to her. we know the investigation is beginning, it is under way. a key thing to remember is that this is not a criminal investigation. there will be no conclusion or decision by the fbi. what they're going to do is talk to people at the party, "new york times" is reporting they're expanding that scope to some of the other accusers who alleged assault by judge kavanaugh in high school and college and try to understand what they remember, piece together their
narrative of the events of the time, and submit these interviews to the white house which will ultimately go to the senate, and it will be up to lawmakers to decide if they believe there is corroboration to christine blasey ford's allegations or if they feel there's not enough there and that it doesn't harm judge kavanaugh's reputation. this is the process. the fbi will go talk to the individuals, they have one week to do it. then it will go to the white house and the senate to decide what they think they've learned out of this one week investigation about judge kavanaugh's character and the allegations leveled by several women. and of course judge kavanaugh denies all of the allegations vehemently. christi, victor. >> we appreciate it. thank you. >> joining me, supreme court reporter ariana anrian devogue.
she is not refuting claims by christine blasey ford, but she doesn't remember that party or that night. the significance of her saying she will be cooperative with the fbi investigation. >> right, victor. yesterday at this time brett kavanaugh was a lot closer to a supreme court vote. all of that has come to a screeching halt as the fbi investigation is launched, and it is true. this isn't a full out criminal investigation, but they are going to be contacting some of the accusers, and people related to it. one of the main accusers there is christine blasey ford, and she said there were three people that she could place at the party. all three of those said they have no recollection. one of the people is this leland keyser. she's a friend of ford. she released a statement saying
she still has no recollection of the party but wants to make sure the senate knows that doesn't mean she's refuting her friend's allegation. she says simply she doesn't remember it. and also in that statement, victor, she said and her lawyer said they would be happy to cooperate with the fbi. so that's where we are. that's a significant first step here as this unfurls. >> "new york times" is reporting that in addition to allegations made by dr. ford, the allegation made by deborah ramirez will also be investigated. as we talk about the witnesses potentially who will be participating and cooperative, mark judge is also one of them. dr. ford named him as one of the others in the room, but he's also named as a potential witness in the allegations made by julie swetnick, so is it possible or plausible to think the fbi would question mark judge about one accusation but
not question him about the other, the swetnick allegation as well? >> i don't think so, victor. that's what's important to note. although this is not a criminal investigation, once the fbi starts to ask questions, they're going to follow the leads in terms of what the answers to the questions provide. so mark judge we know is a very central character in both the allegations of dr. ford and julie swetnick. dr. ford puts him in the room as she says brett kavanaugh attempted to rape her and unintentionally perhaps even kill her as she testified to this week. mark judge has been raised as someone that needed to be talk to, although he issued statements via his lawyer, there's nothing like the fbi sitting down with a witness, looking at them, judging his or her demeanor and making some determination about what it is, the totality of information that he may have.
we know the democrats and survivors all over this country have been calling for an fbi investigation. and although this investigation has a lot of limitations, it is a critical first step in ensuring the process has some legitimacy. >> debra katz, attorney for dr. ford wrote in a statement overall praising the decision to now start the fbi investigation, but ended with this. no artificial limits as to time or scope should be imposed on this investigation. is this something that typically would just go on as long as necessary, follow the leads that come? do you think this is just an arbitrary deadline as suggested, this artificial limit? >> i think it is completely arbitrary. there's no reason the fbi can't conduct a thorough, full investigation. there were so many issues raised by dr. ford and brett kavanaugh, things like his calendar.
lots of issues with respect to that calendar he used to try to exxon ra exonerate himself. what did the notes on the calendar mean as relates to july 1st. what about the yearbook? we know there are lots of references in the yearbook and disputes about what the references mean. this whole issue that has arisen with respect to his drinking, how much did he drink, did he drink to the point of having memory loss, blacking out. he made several statements about his drinking. on fox news, appeared to be a choir boy. didn't drink a lot, but then he softened that statement and suggested he maybe did drink more than he originally stated. there are lots of questions. did he commit perjury, make statements during the confirmation hearing that aren't true. the fbi should have an opportunity to investigate all those leads, potentially leading to criminal referrals. we don't know.
but we shouldn't place arbitrary limits on them when you talk about an appointment to the highest court in the nation. >> talk about the calendar. the president, congressional republicans wanted judge kavanaugh on the court by start of the term, that's monday, october 1st. that obviously is not going to happen now. is that problematic for the cases that will be argued for the rest of the justices? what does it mean that if he is confirmed, it won't be the start of the term. >> you're right. this delay is not what kavanaugh wanted, it is not what mcconnell wanted or what the president wanted, and it is a setback. remember, kavanaugh in that confirmation hearing said how much the delay, how painful this has been to his family. but nevertheless, the court is going to sit monday, and we're back to an 8 member court. that's something that the supreme court justices themselves don't like because on those hot button issues, not every issue, but on hot button
issues and emergency petitions that may come to the supreme court, if there are split 4-4, they can't issue precedent setting opinion, so what they tend to do when they're in this situation is maybe push off some of the bigger issues or get together and look at more narrow ways to rule. so as things stand they're going to start this term, there will only be the 8, and kavanaugh who is seeking the seat of justice anthony kennedy, kennedy who played such a central role on this court is going to so far be on the sidelines, victor. >> thank you both. >> thanks, victor. a lot of questions about what changed republican senator jeff flake's mind. he went from saying he was going to vote for kavanaugh, about 9:30 yesterday morning, and hours later demanded an fbi investigation before the final vote. this confrontation in an elevator is what some think had
to do with it. anderson cooper spoke with one of the protesters that confronted flake in the elevator. here is what she said was going through her mind at the time. >> and i wanted of him to really stay there and be present and think of the people he loves, think of his children. i wanted him to be a hero. >> tweeted he spoke with flake last night, here's what he said flake told him about the protesters. you feel for them, it was poignant. keep in mind, their agenda may be different from mine. some of their concern is how kavanaugh would rule on the court. they may have been there prior to allegations against him because of his position on some issues, but it certainly struck a chord. that from senator jeff flake. and in a cnn exclusive interview, i spoke with the d
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yale university. >> judge kavanaugh denied the allegations. his nomination in senator jeff flake's words is ripping the country apart. darren johnson, south regional director for obama 2012 and brian robinson for georgia governor nathan deal is with us. thank you for being with us. heading into the fbi investigation, if there's nothing definitive at the end of it, is anybody happy? >> i think the republicans have been saying all week like joe biden said in 1991 when this came up in the clarence thomas hearings, the fbi reports don't issue anything conclusory. they don't make conclusions. >> they can give some ammunition to democrats if they find people who say some things about kavanaugh that he denied. >> i think what we are going to find is that we have already
thoroughly vetted brett kavanaugh. i don't think there's a lot of new information that comes out of that, and that's going to be a victory for the republican point of view, they will be vindicated. they said we vetted him. he had six background checks. >> listen, i do need to say, former special agent said background checks are not cumulative. they don't start from scratch every time. so in other words what she's saying is the first background check may have gone all the way back, the second one started where the first one ended. so we don't know how far back these six checks have gone. >> and we do know that these stories would not have been in background checks because they had never been made public by anyone, assuming none of these people were interviewed for those background checks. but i think that republicans have proven once again they're willing to bend over backwards to make sure that all of these allegations are fairly vetted, that everything is thoroughly
looked at. >> didn't call julramirez or swetnick. >> the swetnick allegations are ridiculous. the idea there was a gang rape group going around marin a privileged community and nobody did anything is ridiculous. >> we were on the exact show last week, brian said if there's a pattern of behavior, then it will probably have a difference in outcome. what we have seen since last saturday, there has been a pattern of behavior from kavanaugh. you've had three people come forward with allegations that he sexual assaulted them or participated in some sexual assault. here's the problem. is it a win for democrats? absolutely. to get this further investigation, to really look at the new witnesses with the new claims, that's the one thing brian is leaving out, we had new people come to the forefront with new information. now, the fact of the matter is
democrats can't get too calm and too happy, there's still a win for republicans because he goes forward. while we only have a week to interview the new claims, and then still don't know what they consider credible witnesses or credible cases, i think the american people deserve for the fbi investigation to be as independent and fair as it can to look at the new claims. >> this is senator coons thursday talking about the investigation, what he would like to see before jeff flake said he wanted it. let's watch. >> why not agree to a one week pause to allow the fbi to investigate all of these investigations, allow you an opportunity a week from now to have the folks present in front of us for us to assess their credibility and for us to either clear your name or resolve these allegations by moving to a different nominee. >> so the vote on calling mark judge failed in the committee.
you've now got the week. are democrats then going to move the ball after the week and say well, we need this, we need another week, and push it beyond the election? >> that's the question. one thing that we know the democrats' posture has been is this helps democrats going into midterm elections, because you have a republican president who has put up a nominee for the supreme court that clearly has come forward and has had trouble trying to get confirmed. the dual effect is to your point, victor. if nothing comes back after a seventh investigation by the fbi, i think democrats now are strategizing what will be the next step. no matter what happens from this point on -- >> then it isn't about getting to the truth, it is about getting another week. >> it is about getting to the truth. >> if right now before interviews are completed democrats are strategizing for what is next after this week, it is not about the answers. it is about getting another week. >> it is about politics, victor. >> i get this. trying to convince people like
coons did, why not give a week of investigation and then you want another week. >> when we sat here a week ago i was fair as i could be, i was kri criticized by democratic friends for being fair. you have credible testimony. the president, senator grassley, everybody says dr. ford's testimony was credible. she should be commended. with new evidence, you have two other alleged accusers out there, then democrats have to make sure they do due diligence, they have a fiduciary responsibility. we are making jeff flake into this wonderful hero. what he did was admirable, the right thing to do. he is a conservative with a conscience. but i think we're not playing politics here, it is not about prolonging the process, it is making sure we have the right people that are going to serve on the supreme court and that they're going to be neutral jurist. that's the responsibility of a
supreme court nominee. >> the talking point on day one of the investigation to say we are strategizing for what happens at the end of the week, why not wait for the information to come back, see if there's something to investigate further. >> but you have to have a plan. that's what i'm saying. >> the plan is to get more time. >> i want to ask about a plan. when we watched ford's testimony, it was triggering to women. 201% increase in calls to the national sexual assault hot line. you had women standing outside offices of m offices of mer could you ski, corker. this is not going away. what are republicans going to do? >> we are caught in two movements. one, polarization of american politics, whether you believe dr. ford or judge kavanaugh has to do with how you vote. i saw on my twitter feed and so did everyone else. and then the me too movement where these attacks, how women
are treated through the years are coming into the open and people are feeling free to finally talk about it. you have two things happening at once. one thing i feel for judge kavanaugh, and i know the republicans that i heard talk feel the same, we feel so much sadness for him and for dr. ford for having to go through this, if these aren't true. i thought he was very compelling. what's happening, what happened with jeff flake being attacked, how can you vote for him, i was sexual assaulted, those are two separate things. we don't minimize your pain, we don't minimize your trauma, we as society need to fix that. but if he is innocent of the charges, it is irrelevant here on this particular vote. he needs to be voted on the merits of his ability, his experience, and what he can bring to the court. >> let me ask you about another element here about partisan politics. i want you to listen to judge kavanaugh. this is on the first hearing,
opening statement, and the opening statement this thursday. let's watch that. >> the supreme court must never, never be viewed as a partisan institution. the justices on the supreme court do not sit on opposite sides of an aisle. they do not caucus in separate rooms. if confirmed to the supreme court, i would be part of a team of nine, committed to deciding cases according to the constitution and laws of the united states. the behavior of several of the democratic members of this committee at my hearing a few weeks ago was an embarrassment. this whole two week effort has been a calculated, orchestrated political hit, fueled with apparent pent up anger about president trump and the 2016 election, fear that's been unfairly stoked about my
judicial record. revenge on behalf of the clintons. and millions of dollars in money from outside leftwing opposition groups. >> a biographer of the court wrote the result of his rhetoric and the overall tenor of his nomination, he could forever be marked as a politician on the bench rather than a neutral jurist. what happened to there are no aisles in the supreme court. then he comes back thursday and says this is revenge for the clintons, and a leftwing conspiracy, calling out democrats specifically. did he go too far? >> no, you have to look at what the democrats said. he did a good job making that case, minutes after the nomination was announced. chuck schumer said i'm going to do everything i can to stop this. don't tell me that chuck schumer had thoroughly vetted brett kavanaugh within 30 minutes of the announcement. that's not true. this is a partisan attack on him. >> that would suggest that the
allegations are part of a partisan attack. do you believe that? >> this is not only a judge, he is not a robot, he is a person, and he has been called evil, despicable and a gang rapist. of course you're going to respond emotionally. we can argue whether it was a good strategy to look back angry. we would all be the same if we were accused of something we didn't do that's so serious and awful. >> it is not about the anger. i think there are people that understand the anger because he says he didn't do it. >> right. >> he is passionately defending himself. he wrote that. that wasn't a spur of the moment response to a question. he wrote it the night before. had time to think about it. the next day came in and went on this diatribe about democrats and the clintons and revenge for the 2016 election. this isn't someone that's just passionately defending himself, he is talking partisan politics. does he cast himself as a partisan on the court?
>> i don't think there's anybody in america who's ever heard of the supreme court that can't go those are the democrats, those are the republicans. what he is saying is the way the constitution set it up, it is supposed to be nonpartisan, it is supposed to be a panel of jurists who are experienced and knowledgeable about the law and wise. and today what we have and it reflects everything else in american politics, these dividing lines, left and right. >> 23 days between the two statements. >> the difference, victor, what we saw in early september was a person very calm and direct. i think his testimony in response to dr. ford's testimony is what created a lot of this uproar. i think the senators watching him basically attack them and basically injecting the political rhetoric himself into the process is what made senator flake and others say we need to basically further investigate this. if dr. ford had come in with the same tone and tenor, we would be
saying nasty things about her as a woman. it is a double standard in this country that men, in particular white men, can get away with saying certain things in a certain way that a woman cannot. we would say she was angry, that she's radical, probably even have choice words against her. i think judge kavanaugh should apologize to the american people for his tone in which he attacked the u.s. senators who were doing their fiduciary responsibility to make sure they asked the right questions for the american people. >> all right. always appreciate you being here. >> thank you. up next, a lifelong dream for two brothers becomes a reality. >> kyle needs my physical strength but i need every bit of his energy to tackle the day. >> they're taking on the most grueling one day endurance race and spreading their message of inclusion while they do it. later tonight, the life and career of justice ruth bader
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listen up, nearly 50 million facebook accounts have been compromised. that allowed hackers to take over user accounts along with other sites and apps that they log into using facebook. talking about instagram, tinder, spotify. even facebook founder mark zuckerberg was among victims. the company ensures users no credit card information was accessed, but here's advice how to protect yourself if you think you have been hacked. >> you want to log into facebook and there's a setting in privacy area where you can log out everywhere. go in first and click that. that will log you out of all devices you use facebook to log you in through. do that first. then second, if you used this facebook log in feature, you want to go through each different app that you utilize that feature for and log out of that as well. and to be extra safe, you may want to disconnect that entirely and just use the native log in
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