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they were live and where they will go. they lost everything. you're watching cnn newsroom. ♪ averages very good morningist an ball. a shocking report. about khasho fwrks fwrks i. l he a he activated his apple watch. it then recorded what happened next including his alleged torture and killing in the building. cnn can't verify this report and the saudis strongly deny any involvement. and they claim to have audio and video recordings that prove this. a former cia operative tells our
anderson cooper that he is skeptical of the details of this latest turkish report. >> the reporting about this apple watch, it does come really the only source on it is this pro-government newspaper in turkey. does it make sense to you technologically that is possible? >> that's too far for a bluetooth connection and his anticipation of transmitting that, i think that's beyond khas khashog fwrks i. i think they have the consulate wired. they don't trust any diplomats and they've been in consulates in turkey and if indeed there are tapes proving he was murdered, i think that's probably how they know but the turks are very reluctant to admit that.
>> with billions of dollars of u.s. military sales on the line, u.s. president donald trump has had very little to say about the disturbing allegations. but he did say he would bring it up soon with the saudi king. >> we're going to find out what happened with respect to the terrible situation in turkey having to do with saudi arabia and the reporter and nobody knows quite yet. nobody's been able to put it together. people are starting to fo wrds they're formed, we'll let you know. >> have you talked to the king of saudi arabia? >> i have not. i will at some point be calling king -- >> outside the saudi consulate in istanbul. and seeing the saudi capital. i want to start with germana.
what do we believe to be the very latest at this point >> reporter: it's been a week since turkey launched that investigation into the disappearance of khashoggi. and so far what they've said officially and publicly very little . the other thing they say is he walked in and the other is that there were persons of interest because they were inside the consulate. they left that evening. all this at the time of his disappearance. we know from a source familiar with the investigation that told cnn that turkey does have odd wroe and visual evidence that he was tortured and killed inside the consulate. after all these questions about
how turkey may have obtained these recordings and this evidence, the government newspaper reporting that they may have recorded that using his apple watch. now it's very hard to tell right now. we can't verify this information. cnn's looking into if this is technologically feasible. and a lot of security experts are really skeptical that this was the case and the feeling is that it might be the pro-government newspaper, turkey coming out with these lines after questions were raised about how the turkish government would have obtained these recordings from inside a diplomatic mission here. she's outside the consulate in istanbul, about 20 minutes or so from where we are here.
sam, important to reiterate that they strongly deny any involvement in the disappearance. >> the latest is coming from the interior minister. he's the first and most senior official part of the government to make a statement on this. and his statement is very consistent with the line that mr. khashoggi left the consulate safely and any talk of his disappearance or death is a result of saudi influences is propaganda largely. i'll read you a statement issued on his behalf. it says the minister of intearier confirmed the kingdom of saudi arabia's false accusations and against the
background of the saudi citizen, jamal khasho fwrks gi. and he stressed that -- and it's an unequibblical statement. and these are unproven allegations. baseless and in the wider contexts as you know because saudi arabia and the ua in particular are at log ahead somewhat with turkey because of turkey's support of qatar which they have got an embargo against, this is now among saudi commentators being portrayed as some kind of nefarious plot to desmufrp the saudi reputation. the government hasn't said but
commentators, newspapers have said inspired by qatar. >> it as i say outside the consulate. i've got journalist, andrew fingal with me in istanbul. so they categorically deny any involvement in his disappearance. local press here suggesting the investigation leading to a conclusion that jamal was killed inside the embassy and there's o audio and video recordings. the government here very slow to be involved in any sort of statement or response of what's going on. much is being leaked to press. >> i think there is, as you say
a great deal of ambivalence in turkey. here's a person it seems was very well connected in the government. friends in the government itself and if we're to believe the leaks brutally murdered on turkish soil, they're clearly out to get some sort of satisfaction. on the other hand saudi arabia is a big and wealthy country and to wru really want to sthak lion by the tale. >> ankara, reed a, washington. unpit that, if you will as far as relations are concerned. good luck. >> basically turkey has different aims. it's competing with saudi arabia for influence. it's closer to qatar. i think it's really too close to america. when you talk about moderate islam, that rings warning bells
in turkey's ear. they think that's a smudge. on the other hand turkey's on the brink of an economic crisis. it needs financial support from the outside world. saudi arabia's a rich country. it doesn't want to antagonize it. to get out of the financial difficulties, turkey has to end its isolation. the pastor as a first step to repair thing u.s. relationship. there's two possibilities here by making a fuss about khas khashoggi, they're forcing america to take a stand. so that too is ambivalent. >> we have a report from ben wedeman coming up.
so far as this investigation is concerned, a huge dose of skepticism i think needs be taken when consider much of what we are hearing because as point out it's been leaked to pro-government press. but if indeed there is audio and video recordings of an incident that happened within that embassy -- they're now helping with the vez. what happens next? >> whether someone goes on trial or is punished, i think that's a really long way off. for turks, for their side of the story to get out and again it's this ambivalence. yes, thaw want to be seen as being in the right but not so in the right that they have to do something about it. >> and the disappearance of journalists not unfamiliar.
certainly the incarceration not unfamiliar. remember the atmosphere here, asmany of our viewers who may be watching from elsewhere is a clean can as it were -- as they might expect in their own capitol city. >> we calculate 175 media workers on trumped up charges and be engpunished for the same sort of sent that khashoggi to -- >> and very much informs u.s. turkish relgszs. as we've just been discussing is in germany. he'll soon be on his way home. this is a pickerture of brunson's emotional arrival in
the air force in germany. he stopped before he flies to washington. turkish court released him from house arrest. president trump claimed the victory before the rally in ohio. >> so we have good news. pastor andrew brunson is in the air from turkey. he's i think in good shape. he'll be stopping most likely in germany for a full check up and then he's going to be come thing to oval office most likely on saturday but we're very honored to have him back with us. he suffered greatly but we're very appreciative to a lot of people. >> what caused the release, mr. president? >> well, we spoke to turkey and he went through a system and ewe got him out. they've been trying to get him out for a long time. >> it's donald trump.
ben tells us more about the story. >> reporter: a convoy of cars rushes away from a turkish court. one passenger, american pars, andrew brunson free after two years of detention. he'd been involved in -- charnel would with involvement in the attempted coup. they gave him more than a three year sentence but freed him because of good behavior and two years already spent in it tension. one of brunson's supporters was delighted with the ruling. >> weir wi're just thankful he e reunited with his three kids, his wife. he can walk his daughter thousand aisle as he couldn't do when she was married. we're thankful he can go home.
>> reporter: and president on the on the tweeted pastor brunson just released. we'll be home soon. he spent 23 years doing predominantly work and hiking tarif tear -- and congress blocked the sale of u.s.-made f-35 jet fighters, bringing relations between the two nato allies to a new low. the sanctions may be ease said now that brunson's free. after his release the turkish presidency puts out a statement saying the republic of turkey does not receive instructions from any body, authority, office, or person. we make our own rules, and our own it scissiodecisions that re
will. in the end, turkey blinked. well, andrew brunson expected to be back in the united states by around noon local time there. natalie will have a lot more from here in a few minutes time. >> we'll see you then. brunson's freedom capped off a busy week for president trump friendship. also ahead hurricane michael. the latest on the devastation left behind in florida and the it it devastation those. harry's meeting clients... ...from far away. but they only see his wrinkles. if only harry used some... ...bounce, to dry. he would be a less wrinkly, winning guy.
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>> the journalist's disappearance in what is a convuluted and po polarized narrative and the diplomatic dance we see being played out around the region and in washington. i'm joined by richard johnson. he's a lecturer at lancaster university. much to discuss here. well, president trump does have serious bragging rights this week from the supreme court justice to now the release of the american pastor from turkey which he's been working on and then there's kanye west, however you characterize that one, singing the president's praises in the oval office. if this is a reality show, this is a pretty good one for the president this week, do you think? >> i think particularly the brunson release was a big victory for trump.
he's made it a priority to secure the release of prisoners and host nls. he's done it in egypt, afghanistan and north korea. so this was part of that approach. obviously unterms of the midterm elections, the kavanaugh appointment as been a reminder to republicans as to why they voted for trump. perhaps it spite of all the various antics they might be uncomfortable with and i think the kanye oval office speech, as it ended up being was really a case of i think two celebrities who like the media glare and i think kanye was being as tactical in get some attention as trump was in getting attention from kanye. >> it definitely shows the wide ranging appeal this president has over certain people in the country. runs the gambit.
well with, let's get back the story we've real a been focussing on in our program. there is universal outrage over the alleged murder, reportedly at the hands of jamal khasho fwrks gi. lindsey graham said there will be hell to pay if saudi arabia did this. let's listen to the president. >> i willt tell you up front right now they're spending 1$11 billion purchasing military equipment and if we don't stel to them, they'll say thank yeah very much we'll buy it from russia or china. that doesn't help. but there are other things we can do. let's find out what the problem
is first, okay. >> the question is, is he working hard enough to find out what is wrong? he relate said it to job before american values and find thing truth? >> first of all trump is a deeply transactional politician, a deeply transactional person. i think it's no surprise he's putting the dollar values first. one of the ways it's been such a disruption of the past is that trump has abandoned the tradition of paying lip service. i think it's interesting every u.s. president since george bush senior made his first visit to canada. i think he wanted to get mordeals in terms of arms. i think the trump people would
say maybe the president is being less hypocritical. they haven't challenged saudi arabia over executions and women's rights and so on. this is obviously a particularly distressing situation because it's a u.s. resident we believe has been killed and the president has taken a very nonchalant additude because at the end oof the day it's the dollars that come first in his approach to public pall as. >> and some have questioned whether it has something to do with the close ties between saudi arabia and mr. trump's business interests and the kugsner's business interests. >> i mean that's always luming in the back grond and although he took some steps to distance himself from his businesses. at the end of the day, he's
really not that distant and that pales in comparison to how -- for example jimmy carter on human rights sold his peanut farm because he didn't want to have a conflict of interest as president. we don't know if there are direct pay offs. that would be too far to say at this point. it certainly is in the back ground and cast over. >> we'll be watching closely to see the next steps. richard johnson, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> coming up we will have the latest on the disappearance of the saudi journalist and how he fell out of favor with the saudi royal family. what did he write about that they didn't like? and hundred have been rescued
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and rescue efforts are still ongoing and so many people remain without power, nearly 300,000 without power in florida. overall throughout many states, 900,000. homes and businesses are still without electricity. american pastor andrew brunson has arrived at a u.s. air force base in germany, receiving a medical cevaluation there. he was held for more than two years on charges of supporting terrorism. something he denied. he was released on friday for time served. reports an apple watch worn by journalist khashoggi recorded his own murder inside the consulate. they claim to have video and audio recording of his torture
and death. the saudis deny any involvement in khashoggi's disappearance. well, the trump white house has had very little to say about khashoggi's disappearance. even though he was a u.s. resident who wrote for a nominant u.s. newspaper. he was a vocal crit cannic of the saudi government. last year president trump signed a deal that could be worth billions of dollars in u.s. military sales. he did say he would speak soon with the saudi king about khashoggi's disappearance. many hailed saudi crown prince as a game changer, capable of transform thing region by softing its hard line stance. but this could hurt the relationship with with with the west.
and john has more. >> reporter: muhammad emerged as a young ambitious reformer who promised the world. he aimed to rebuild the status of the kingdom by lancing the support of those in his generation. cutting what he called an addiction to oil. reduce thing role of conservative islam by opening up tourism and entertainment. >> this is why many of the western powers embraced him or he's the answer because he really does want to take saudi arabia from a to b. >> reporter: he formed a relationship with it on the on the's son in law, jared kushner. >> it resulted in the first
overseas trip to riyadh. >> it's your time together two very important and influential people and that's absolutely key. >> reporter: the relationship emboldened the crown prince. he flexed his muscle in the middle east, putting an economic embargo eand urging them to pull out of the nuclear deal with iran. >> we can be assed a venturous as we like and don't have to pay for it. >> after hosting a large international investment process, he used the same thing, as these aseds of $100 billion and some say the suspected killing ofb journalist khashoggi will only make matters worse.
stloe will be less and less trust of saudi arabia moving below. an estimated billion of money fled the country. mbs appeared as a change and now too much for his own good. in the region that is a result of his actions is riskier than ever. cnn, abu dhabi. well, speaking of unfolding economic crisis, times more than tough for turkey. for analysis on all that we're seeing and hearing. a key point man for the state department who understandess the turkish file as well as anyone.
he also served as ambassador. as we continue to dig to uncover the it tails of jamal's disappearance, let's talk strategy. and the kind of chaotic diplomatic dance. i want to go to riyadh in washington. >> i think ankara's that hastra is too do anything it get back on track. they just did a dramatic increase in interest rates to raise the turkish lira which has lost value this wroor. it lost 25% just in one month in august. so it knows it's got to normalize relationships with washington. the freeing of pastor brunson
and turkey taking an aggressive stance on what happened to khashoggi are two things that can help get it back on track. >> we've got a statement and we've had very little official word on either the khashoggi case or the release of brunson. i think this speaks to some of what year discussing here. this is from the turkish president's office and it says with regard to the homecoming, today's court ruling on andrew brunson reafirmed that turkey is a democratic country with a rule of law and establishes the impartialiality of the judiciary. now there will be some eyebrows raised on hearing that, won't there? >> indeed. many people who read the
indictment in the states and europe thought it was an outrages set of charges. i think what happened based on my contacts here, i think the top leadership here genuinely believed that there were problematic people that we're associating with pastor brunson. people who may have ties to the pkk terrorist organization. perhaps people involved in the coup attempt planning and he allegedly tweeted something about supporting the coup attempt. having a sentiment that may be hoping for a change of government is not crime. >> as i quote is a democratic country with a rule of law and establishes the impartiality. and as continue to try uncover the shocking details of the disappearance of jamal, we
know there are so many journalists imprisoned. >> 170 or so. i realize that's a huge sore point on its repue tagsz. f >> reputational -- reputationses of these countries around the world is very much play. let's briefly talk about how riyadh it said and where you think that relationship goes from here. >> riyadh's reputation outside the oval office seems to be falling apart and throughout international business community with people like richard bransen pulling spl board sites. davos in the desert.
as have many other corporate leaders. i think there's a tidal wave of opposition to the regime in riyadh right now. the question is will there be a critical mass achieved that overcomes president trump's reluctance to call it like -- this is calling into question the entire plan of muhammad to reform the if saudi conomy. this could be a huge point of inflection in the history of saudi arabia. >> pleasure to have you on, sir. well, i'm here. fascinating times, interesting times. two big stories here. but as we continue to get to the bottom of what happened, no comedian continuing to leak
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the death toll from hurricane michael has increased to 17. authorities fear it could go up as they continue to make sure all are accounted for. michael made land fall near florida's mexico beach wednesday wiping thousands of homes off the map. it then swept through several southeast sfwatsfore landing as a post tropical cyclone on friday. the devastation is still come ning to focus. of course as you see right there it will take weeks to fully astes. many remain without power. nearly 900,000 homes and businesses, 300,000 in florida are still without electricity. and they have little or no access to some towns. those who road out the storm can't get out.
he spoke with several survivors struggling to process all that they have lost. an entire town almost gone. those who troed out. >> you were up to your neck in water. a 96-year-old lady nexter to and my mother and two togs. >> and you made it. >> we're here. >> reporter: would you do it again? >> no. >> reporter: search and rescue now searching for survivors and posthaebl dead. they expect the death toll to clime canb. >> i expect we're going to find that kind of bad news and there's a process we go through for that and our priority obviously is the living. and we're looking for people that there trapped. >> reporter: several people we
spoke to say they haven't yet heard from friends who road it out. what's happened to mexico beach? >> it's a disaster. i was real ea shocked to see what it looked like. >> reporter: this exclusive video shows winds of as high as 150 miles per hour. shredding this once tranquil beach town. a dozen or more feet of water from the coast to the interior. 30 miles out some roads no longer exist, entirely covered by downed trees. they have no way to tell the world how good they're >> do not come down here.
it's devastating. we had a hole in our house. grandmother's house is completely gone. >> reporter: jaw dropping. the main drag collapsed. eroding the sand beneath. slammed into condos across the street and the most popular bar here, toucan's reduced to a pile of rubble. cnn can -- mexico beach, florida. >> it is hard to comp rehens how large it is. natalie as those images continue to shock us all, people say how can a storm this strong erase an entire town? it wasn't just the wind and what
the wind pushed in, basically how the governor described it. like a bomb went ouf here. when you're dealing with a category three, two, one hur con, that's anywhere from to four feetd above normal sea level but as the winds increase with the storm that was michael, then you're dealing with a higher storm surge. four feet in many cases but nine to 12-feet storm surge. the shape of a coastline is also in florida. this is more likely more flat and that tends to provide us with an even higher storm surge. talk a look at the before and after from mexico beach, florida. the weaker storm had no chance
with this. look at this bridge. this caught my eye. the bridge basically bent the other way. there are structures that survived here. perhaps they were on stilts, built to better code. that's something we're going to keep unmind because the one lesson we do not learn with these storms is we still rebuild right on the coastline. so hopefully they're going to do so with structures that are able to better withstand the monster that was hurricane michael. >> thank you. we'll turn back to washington next for mornings with his favorite tv show to lunch with kanye west. why president trump has kick canned his reality show.
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those rallies will run. >> i'm not on the ticket but i am on the ticket. >> they're no longer being televised live, fox has grown tired of them. so i wonder if there will be another moment. >> kanye came as well. >> it made me feel like superman. >> wearing a mega hat with the much maligned and masterfully media snapping it up. and hired bill shrine as his new com's chief. is this all shine's idea? >> i think these sort of tactics are all trump. he's use thing media to promote his accomplishments going into the midterm election.
>> reporter: the unemployment rate as low as it's been since 1969. maybe kanye got it right. >> trump is on his hero's journey right now and he might not have expected to have a crazy mother -- like kanye west run up and support. >> that's language you usually hear in the oval office. last week facebook revealed a cyber attack of over 30 million users. now they're revealing just how bad the attack was. they say it was even worse for 14 million users. cyber attackers got information of nearly everything from their user noms, work places, religion, even relationship status. facebook says the fbi is actively investigating the breach. and that is cnn newsroom. i'm natalie allen.
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