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11th hour blitz to boost republican candidates. in florida, he fired up his base with a warning about a migrant caravan from central america. keep in mind, it is dwindling in size and still weeks uz way from the u.s./mexico border. >> still, the president now says that the threat of violence, be it real or imagined from the caravan, warrants sending as many as 15,000 u.s. troops to the border. consider this. that would nearly equal the number fighting terror groups in iraq and afghanistan. it would exceed those in iraq and be more than those fighting al qaeda and the taliban in afghanistan. abby phillip is at the white house with more. does the white house have any answers to how the president justifies that extraordinary use of american military force on the u.s. border here? >> well, the white house is pointing to that issue, pointing to the president sending troops to the border and saying that they are the ones dealing with what they have characterized as
a crisis on the border. and saying that democrats have refused to do so, but jim, this whole thing is part of a broader closing argument from president trump and his allies that's focused on the issue of immigration. that ad that you just played earlier today is designed to get attention and designed to shock. but a lot of people are asking, is it also racist? is the president's rhetoric around immigration and also that ad, is that a dog whistle to his supporters? he spoke to cbn news in an interview yesterday and here's how he responded to those charges. >> you know, the word racist is used about every republican that's winning. any time ap aren is leading, they take out the r word, the racist word. and i'm not anti-immigrant at all. >> but of course, that ad has shocked a lot of people, including some in the president's own party. and it amounts to the final argument from president trump that he is going to be
prosecuting on the campaign trail over the next several days. he has yet another rally today in missouri. and this has become a central theme of his campaign. he called it make america safer again. but of course, jim and poppy, this will go down in the history books as one of the most divisive and controversial ads in reese political history. >> yeah. >> fitting with the overall message. thanks very much. >> let's talk about this because there's a lot of news this morning. joining us, military and diplomatic analyst rear admiral john kirby. if we could pull up the chart again, guys in the control room, because i think it's striking if you look at the troops fighting overseas. you know, fighting the wars in afghanistan and iraq and syria. then you compare it to the troop level at the u.s. southern border that far exceeds all of those. does this make sense? >> well, right now, we don't have quite as many as 15,000
down at the border. i think the numbers they're getting ready to deploy in the next few days will take you to around 7,000, but i take the point. certainly, the numbers are striking. but i think, poppy, it's really important for us to remember that the types of troops are different here. we have low numbers in places like steer yeah and iraq because we don't need high numbers because these are advisers and trainers. because it's the iraqi security forces that really going after isis there and those kind of missions. the troops that are going to be going to the border or near the border are going to be enablers. what we call enablers. support troops, engineers, pilots, mechanics. supply clerks. that kind of thing. they're going to be doing missions that then can free up border patrol to go to the border. >> but what evidence is there, john kirby, that the more than 17,000 border patrol agents already stationed at the border, the 2,000 national guardsmen stationed at the border, need
several thousand more u.s. military to back them up? especially in light of the fact that this caravan is many weeks away. an election, however, is just days away. >> look, there's no getting away from the fact the timing is suspicious with the election. of course, it feeds right into president trump's fearmongering on immigration. no question about that. that said, jim, and you know this. you covered the pentagon, the requirements process for orders for troops to deploy even in the united states is a pretty rigid process and it's hard to game that out. what i'm told is secretary mattis is working directly with dhs to validate the requirements they're submitting, the help they need. then he says this is a valid requirement. he pushes it off to the northern command commander who tries to source it with actual troops. i'm not worried about the legitimacy of the requirements process and the capabilities sent. i am concerned with, like a lot of americans, with the timing of this. >> i know there's a process, john. but let's be honest here.
you served in the pentagon for a long time. >> yeah. >> the timing of this, the number of troops, the constant raising of it. it was 5,000 troops, then it was 7,000, as you noted, then the president with little basis, apparently, triples, almost triples the number with 15,000. are you concerned here that the pentagon is being used as a political tool? i mean, the pentagon has the listen to what the president says. he's the commander in chief, and i'm sure mattis ran it through the processes, but let's look at hi this looks in light of the timing, the president's overall message. aren't you concerned they're being exploited here? >> i'm concerned about the validity of this mission itself, and the timing of it. there's no question about it. what i'm saying is i don't think the pentagon is gaming out the capabilities. they're not gaming out the system to try to artificially amp this up. the other concern i have, though, jim, and this is a big one, is that trump is not being honest with the american people about what these troops are going to be doing.
when he talks about them, he creates this word picture for people that these troops are going to be hurling back invaders at the border, side by side with the border patrol. that's just not the case. in fact, many of them will never even get close to the border. they're supply people, medical support. they're going to be building tents and temporary housing facilities. they're going to be freeing up the border patrol to do their job a little more. they're not allowed to get into law enforcement issues. >> that's a really interesting point, the word seizing them, for example, and what they're legally allowed to do, these troops. "the washington post" had a great fact check, gave it three pinocchios giving some of the words the president is using around the troops. >> let's continue our discussion with our guest, alice stewart, a cnn political commentator, and mary catherine ham is also a political commentator as well as a conservative blogger here. mary catherine ham, if i could begin with you. this is all, you know, don't miss the forest for the trees here, right? this is all part of a bigger
picture, strategy by this president, whether it's the controversial ad that the president retweeted, the language he's using on the campaign trail, the troops he's deploying on the border here. from your seat, is this something that is both right and effective for republicans before the midterms? >> i think it could be effective in certain places, possibly. i don't think it's -- i think it's heavy handed. it's obvious this is all of a piece. i think it probably messes with republicans' chances in these more suburban districts that are swing districts that you would like to appeal to people who don't like an ad like that at all. and so it can hurt him other places. that's always the thing about this president. he will go full bore on, you know, triggering or owning libs or doing whatever the signaling he want to do, and it will boost in some areas but it won't in others, right? and i will say, there always is,
and this is what trump supporters hang on to, there's a ke kernel of truth. a kernel of truth that we have an issue of letting people who are committing crimes in the states illegally come back into the states. that's a real security issue that people are allowed to be worried about it. it's a very small part of the immigration picture, and he makes it basically all of it. >> i think it was fascinating, alice, what republican representative carlos curbelo from southern california who is trying desperately to hang on to his seat said to jim last hour. he said he hopes the divide and conquer strategy of the president fails. that's a risky thing for him to say because his seat is so at risk, but beyond that, looking at history and the willy horton ad and as racist as that was, jim pointed out, it worked. will it work this time? >> look, i think that the key to this is we have a bifurcated ad
strategy where we're focusing on that and other issues as well. with regard to this ad, i think it's inaccurate to automatically say this is a racist ad. when this is an ad that focuses on a serious issue that president trump campaigned and won on, which is securing the border and border security. if anyone thinks it's okay for an illegal immigrant to come into this country and kill a cop, and that not a problem, i would like to hear their defense for that. >> does it matter, alice, if it's factual? this guy was deported. because the implication of the ad is that he was going to welcome back into the country after these crimes when that's just not factually true? >> an illegal immigrant that killed a cop. if you don't think there's a problem with that, i would like to hear it. >> of course, i didn't say there's not a problem. i said he was deported so i'm questioning the fact of the ad. the factual basis of the ad because the ad claims that he was basically welcomed back in when he was deported. that's the issue.
i'm asking you, does it matter if the basis of the ad is true or not? >> the basis of the ad is to call attention to the problem with crimes committed by illegal aliens. that's what the focus is. keep in mind, this calls attention to a big issue this president has been very clear, this is a big part of his message to his base, to his core voters. but there are many other ads out there. you go across this country and see rally ads in north dakota and west virginia and indiana where he's showing a contrast. ones that focus on immigration. others that show contrast with the democrat opponents that talk about a vote for the democrat opponent will mean you'll be raising taxes, opening the borders, you'll be losing jobs. and there are many ways to go about this final midterm push. and contrast ads are important. issue ads are important. and getting out the vote ads are all important. a big part of a comprehensive plan. >> mary katherine listen to what the rabbi of the tree of life synagogue who was in the
synagogue for that horrific massacre this weekend, listen to what he said to alisyn camerota this morning about his discussion with president trump about rhetoric and about hate. >> hate speech led to the death of seven of my congregants and 11 total in my building. he listened. i would say the answer to your question would be to take a look and see post-visit what does the president continue to do? i don't need to answer that. i think you and the public can formulate your own answer. but i don't fully place the blame on any one person. it's a national issue. >> that was really interesting, right? he's like, i talked to the president. i think he heard me, but watch what he does. what do you think he'll do? >> it remains to be seen. like i said, it can work with some people and not with others. i don't think he's terribly good
at staying on a sensitive message, and frankly, in the wake of tragedies, he can sort of for one appearance do that. i will say with all due respect and all of my prayers for those who were affected, we do run the risk, i think, of endangering free speech, frankly, when we say that speech perpetrates massacres. it doesn't. speech is different from actions. political speech even very bad political speech -- >> wait, wait. mary katherine, it's -- >> wait. >> we define hate speech. i mean, hate speech is defined in law as something that is a bad thing. >> almost everyone freely says that is bad. i think when we draw that causal link, and weirdly, we don't have that discussion after ricin is sent to mattis and white powder is sent to donald trump jr.'s ex-wooif, we don't have a rhetoric discussion. we only have the reterate discussion when it's useful to
shut down one side's rhetoric, or at least it seems to me. >> cnn certainly covered the sending of the white powder, but i hear your point on the amount of talk about the question after each of these incidents. alice, mary katherine, these are tough subjects. we appreciate having you on. the president is pushing back on democrats' claims that they have the momentum before the midterms, declaring, quote, the blue wave is dead. and the big guns are coming out in georgia's governor's race. both vice president mike pence and oprah stumping for the candidates there now. and even more star power on the way gives you a measure of how much attention on the race. also, the man accused of gunning down 11 people at the pittsburgh synagogue appears in court. the dozens of charges he's facing including 32 charges that each carry the death penalty. ♪ my love has come along,
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all right. five days to go until the midterms. the president has made a prediction. listen to this. >> i think the blue wave is dead. frankly, and i think we're doing very well. i think we'll win the senate. i think we'll do well in the house. >> so that's the president saying in his words the blue wave is dead. joining us now, part of the blue, the democratic congressman david siscicilline of rhode isl. it's nice to have you. the president thinks the blue wave is dead. nancy pelosi is confident in her prediction. very confident this week that dems will win the house. are you as certain as she is? >> well, i feel very optimistic and cautiously confident. i have been traveling the country, campaigning with our candidates. we have the best candidates we
have ever had running for congress. they're speaking about the urgent priorities of the american people, driving down health care costs. raising family incomes, and taking on the serious corrupting influence of money in our political system in washington, and i think they're speaking to the issues that matter to folks, and i think the president is trying every way he can in the final days in this desperate attempt to change the subject. to talk about something else. and i think that's also part of the failure of the republicans to actually get anything done for the american people. if you control the house, the senate, and the presidency, this should be your closing argument. >> they did pass tax reform, which is something they tried to do for a long time. i know you disagree with how it all played out in benefitting the wealthy. >> i don't just disagree. the american people disagree. >> i heard your interview last night on it, but i want to get to some other things. democratic senator claire mccaskill in missouri, dana bash did a fascinating interview with her and her opponent, and he's
running away from the left wing of the party. she knows her constituents. she knows the state, but listen to this part. >> you have the radio ad out saying that you're not one of those crazy democrats. >> claire's not one of those crazy democrats. she works right in the middle and finds compromise. >> what does that mean? >> well, the crazy democrats are the people who are getting in the face of elected officials in restaurants and screaming at them. the crazy democrats is whoever put a swastika on one of josh hawley's signs in rural missouri. that's the kind of stuff i'm talking about. the extreme stuff. >> does she have a point, congressman, that you wish more of your party would listen to? >> well, look. i think our party by and large is made up of people who are committed to a core set of values. protecting people's access to health care, improving family income, getting money out of politics. in every political party, there
are people who are more animated and more sort of engaged in tactics that i don't engage in. >> look, i think we ought to all be civil to each other. i try to always conduct myself in a civil way. people are passionate, and sometimes they go overboard, but the reality is what this election is about is not crazy people. it's about who's going to work for the american people and focus on the issues that are important in our lives. >> there's an interesting "wall street journal"/nbc news poll out that shows 9 out of 10 republican voters approve of the president's performance in office. it's probably giving him a lot of confidence to do things like tweet this blatantly racist ad put out on his behalf yesterday to talk about invaders in this caravan of asylum seekers. the reality is he's gnaw running on the great economy, and i'm confounded as to why not. unemployment at a 69-year low. you said we should all be celebrating the low unemployment
rate. are you concerned about democrats having to run against this very good economy? >> no, because i think, as i said yesterday, you know, unemployment rate is low. we should all be happy about that, but when you dig below the numbers a little bit, what you see are there are too many americans working two and three jobs just to get by. you're seeing health insurance go up because of the effort to sabotage the affordable care act. they see republicans in court trying to take away coverage for pre-existing conditions. and they see the corrupting influence of money in our politics, and the president now has a record to run on. you know, when he tried this fearmongering in the last campaign, he didn't have a record to run on, and it worked. it's not going to work because now he has a record that he has to account for. the tax cut went to the richest people in the country. i do think the unemployment rate is good, but for too many americans, they're still not having their incomes go up. >> wage growth was up last quarter, higher than inflation. a good news story for everyone.
let me get you on this because you sit on the foreign affairs committee and this doesn't get enough attention, the crisis in yemen. it's the cover story of "the new york times" magazine, and it's a saudi-led coalition fighting that war in yemen. also on top of that, you have this letter from five republican senators, marco rubio, todd young, cory gardner, dean heller to the president. they write to the president, because of the murder of jamal khashoggi and what's going on in yemen, the ongoing revelations about the murder of jamal khashoggi as well as certain saudi actions have raised further serious concerns about the transparency, accountability and judgment of current decision makers in saudi arabia. they're calling on the president, these republicans, to cut off all nuclear talks with saudi arabia at this point in time. do you join them in that call? >> well, there have been a number of us in congress who have been pressing for a very long time to stop the military assistance to the saudis in yemen. this is an unauthorized military engagement by the u.s.
the murder of mr. khashoggi has brought attention to yemen. i'm grateful for that attention. we have been trying to raise this issue for a very long time. it really is evidence of a larger problem with the saudis, where there's been a very serious retreat on human rights. a crackdown on dissidents. there's real problems under their current leadership in saudi arabia. and i think it's an occasion for us to not only cut off military assistance and to impose sanctions but also review in a complete and thorough way all of our security relationships with the saudis and all of our other relationships with the intention of punishing them for their behavior. but i'm happy we're now talking about yemen, but this has been a serious humanitarian crisis for a long time. >> for three years. it certainly has. congressman, i appreciate your time. thank you. the accused gunman in the deadly synagogue massacre entering a not guilty plea. this just moments ago in court. not guilty, he says. cnn was inside that courtroom. we'll have a live update next. p.
all right. breaking news. the suspect, the gunman, the suspect in the massacre that killed 11 people in the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh has pleaded not guilty to all of these charges. 44 of them returned in this federal grand jury indictment. >> the suspect simply replied yes when he was asked if he understood the charges against him, many of which carry the death penalty in the state of
pennsylvania. jean casarez is live in pittsburgh. you were in the front row of the courtroom. describe that moment as he entered this plea. >> well, it was different today. he walked in. he was not wheeled in in a wheelchair. he had a red jumpsuit on. he was shackled at his legs, shackled at his waist. he had his handcuffs on. he sort of walked like this, but of course, he was shackled. he walked well. there was a very large bandage on his left upper arm. almost the entire area of his left arm. and it appeared as though there was still a fresh wound or medication underneath it because i saw some oozing through the bandage. he came. actually, they undid his handcuffs before he sat down. he nodded. i looked straight at him as he walked in. so i got the front facial shot, and i don't know what he was thinking inside, but outwardly, the way i interpreted the look
on his face, i felt it was a smug look. he sat down in the chair, immediately began to talk to both of his attorneys. acknowledged what they were saying to him, nodded to them as they greeted him, and then the proceeding began. the magistrate judge then asked a couple of the same questions. are you in fact by name the defendant? yes, the answer. are you away, have you been given a copy of the indictment? yes, he answered. then the judge turned to the assistant u.s. attorney, saying shall we now arraign him? will there be a edrooing of the indictment? so the female u.s. assistant attorney stood and faced the defendant who was seated and read out the various groups of charges. 44 charges in all, but read the groups. the defendant intently turned his body, looked at her. there was not a smug look on his face. he listened to the charges, nodding after every group of charges had been read, then the male assistant u.s. attorney
stood up to read the penalties, the possible penalties including death. and the defendant nodded, nodded, and when the judge asked if he was aware of all the possible penalties, it was a different nod. it was like that. and then the judge said, told the prosecutor three to four weeks would be the trial length, but it the u.s. attorney certified this as a death penalty case, it would be longer. >> what a moment. jean casarez. doesn't look like the face of remorse you witnessed in there. tough moment for the city of pittsburgh. >> jean, thank you for being there, for your reporting throughout. >> vice president mike pence and oprah are both in the state of georgia today, stumping for opposing candidates for governor there. major star power building even more momentum just days before the midterms. we're on the ground in georgia.
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some very big names are stumping right now in georgia's candidates for governors. vice president mike pence campaigning for republican brian kemp. oprah winfrey rallying support for the democrat, stacey abra s abrahms. these are live pictures outside of oprah's event set to begin in a few minutes. long lines. >> shows you how important the race is. all that star power coming in. this comes one day after a judge
blocked state and county officials from rejecting absentee ballots under georgia's exact match law. the state can reject ballots if voter signatures don't match exactly the ones on file, and the judge's order is giving voters a chance to fix the discrepancy on their ballots so they will count on the absentee ballots. kaylee hartung joins us there outside of the event for oprah. look, there has been a lot of back and forth over this. stacey abrams has said this exact match law targets women and african-americans and it's wrong, but it's the law in georgia. what can you tell us from there at this point? >> well, at this point, poppy, all of the energy and excitement and focus is on turning people out. at this point, we have seen more than 1.5 million ballots cast in this election, setting records for early voting numbers to this point. in the state of georgia. and right now, i'll tell you,
all you feel is excitement for what these candidates are bringing from their respective bases. that's what this race has been about. energizing and motivating their respective bases, today for stacey abrams, she's doing that with the help of oprah. how do you try to upstage your opponent when he says the sitting president is coming to the state on his behalf? first, you announce that former president barack obama is coming, and then you drop the big surprise that oprah, this transcendent and inspirational figure will come to town on your behalf. i'm told about 20 minutes after this announcement was made yesterday, tickets for this event sold out. as one woman in this line told me, she feels like this is an historic moment to see stage with the woman who could be the first african-american female governor ever elected in this country. and so this line has formed, about 600 people will make their way into this auditorium. this, the first town hall of two that oprah will hold today.
but right now, jim and poppy, oprah is knocking on doors in the atlanta metro area, an important area for stacey abrams to turn out the vote, particularly from suburban women. where don't think she's giving away any cars, but we're promised today she will be sharing an uplifting and hopeful message to the people of georgia. >> can you imagine opening your door in your pajamas and oprah is there? there's that. >> we should ask if she's going to run in 2020. a lot of speculation out there. thanks very much. >> cnn's drew griffin is outside the competing event where vice president pence about to hold a campaign rally there. tell us about the scene there. >> yeah, they just opened up the doors. it's starting to fill in here. we expect the vice president to be here with brian kemp about 11:30. so it is starting to fill up here. but kaylee hit it on the head. these three campaign stops that the vice president has with brian kemp today are all about getting out the base. we have a razor thin projection
here in georgia. i think kemp is up 1.4%, jim and poppy, in the real clear politics average poll. and this is not a race to find new voters. this is a race to get your voters out. so oprah trying to help get out that white suburban women vote that stacey abrams needs. right now, kemp coming to this most red part of a red state here in dalton, georgia, the northwest corner of the state, the carpet capital of georgia. just trying to get these republicans energized and get out to vote because it does look like with these record turnout numbers, it is going to come down to every last vote. >> and kemp dropping out of a debate there to campaign. perhaps a measure of that. thanks very much. this also just in. we just learned the president is adding another event to his schedule today. let's go to abby phillip at the white house. abby, look, this is off the heels of that very controversial immigration ad. >> that's right, poppy.
last week, we reported that the white house was considering an immigration speech this week, days before the idam term elections, and cnn is learning according to multiple sources that president trump is planning on giving some remarks on immigration later this afternoon around 4:00 p.m. on the issue of immigration. this is just before he leaves for campaign rally in missouri. and our sources tell us he's going to be addressing this issue of asylum, central to how he framed the problem of migrants coming up from central america. the administration is said to be considering ways to limit how migrants can claim asylum as they approach the u.s. border. so poppy, we're not sure exactly what president trump will say, but it's fair to say as he's going into this final stretch, the white house is refocusing as much attention as they can on this issue of immigration just hours before president trump hits the trail again. poppy and jim. >> abby, thank you. that's happening this afternoon. questions this morning, serious questions about the
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potential honor killing. athena jones has been digging into the details. what are you learning and why are they now leaning away from any possibility of foul play? >> this is interesting. we have been hearing from the new york city detectives that they have been making significant progress in the case. they traveled down to virginia to interview immediate family members and others. and now we're learning that nypd investigators believe this to be a suicide at this time. they're still actively investigating the circumstances. we know that there were no signs of trauma to the bodies. water was found in their lungs which suggests to investigators they were alive when they entered the water. we'll get more details about all of the cause of death from the medical examiner. that office is going to be doing an autopsy and toxicology reports and they're taking their time with it. as of right now, there's no known nexus to saudi arabia, but this law enforcement official speaking to my colleague said through this investigation, through the interviews with the family and all, it's become evident that these sisters did
not want to go back to saudi arabia. now, there is a question about this issue of asylum. "the new york times" and others cited police has reported that the girls' mother was informed by the saudi embassy in washington that the girls had applied for asylum, but i spoke with a saudi official who told me while the saudis are aware of reports they may have applied for asylum, embassy officials have not communicated with the family with anything having to do with asylum and they're still looking into it. >> what do we know about the two girls, what they did here, their family? >> we know a little. from the saudi consulate here in new york, they have described them as students who were accompanying their brother in washington. we know that the 16-year-old, tala farea, had been reported missing at the end of august, august 24th. one thing investigators had been looking into was trying to piece what went on in the two months or so since she went missing. but we still don't know a whole lot when it comes to what led to
this death. right now, they think it's a suicide. >> just the saddest story. thanks very much for following it. new details in the death of the notorious mobster james "whitey" bulger in a federal prison. >> attackers tried to cut out his tongue, apparently a popular punishment in the mob boss crime world for people who snitch. let's go to jason carroll. he is here with more. not an appetizing story for 10:00 a.m., but very disturbing. what can you tell us? >> very much so, poppy. so many movies have been made about whitey bulger. if you were squeamish, this would be the part where you were turn away. but law enforcement sources telling cnn the 89-year-old was beaten so badly that he was practically beaten beyond recognition. and as you say, those who attacked him tried to cut out his tongue. again, that is in the world of the mob world, this is
retribution for if you will, you know, snitching on someone else. and you do know that whitey bulger, for several years, was an fbi informant. his body was found on tuesday. this after he failed to emerge from his cell for breakfast. security guards went in there. they found that his body was wrapped in a blanket. there was blood all over the floor. "the new york times" identifying one of the two inmates that may have been responsible for his death as freddy galles. a hitman from massachusetts. whitey bulger was also from massachusetts. galles was move to solitary confinement after the killing. they cut out one's tongue for those who snitch. whitey bulger was for many years an fbi informant. there are many questions why someone like this man, a high-profile former mobster was allowed to be in gen pop or the
general population. these are some of the questions a lot of folks will have coming forward. >> he wasn't by himself. he wasn't isolated or protected. >> and how would it happen in a prison? and the cops don't discover it until the next day. >> thanks very much. coming up for us, around the world, employees at google walking out. staging big protests after a stunning and disturbing report about how the company has handled sexual misconduct and harassment allegations. well, here's to first dates! you look amazing. and you look amazingly comfortable. when your v-neck looks more like a u-neck... that's when you know, it's half-washed. add downy to keep your collars from stretching. unlike detergent alone, downy conditions to smooth and strengthen fibers. so, next time don't half-wash it. downy and it's done.
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to berlin to tokyo, are staging walkouts. they're protesting how their company has dealt with sexual harassment allegations. >> this outcry follows a "new york times" report detailing how the company stayed silent about allegations against three google executives, including android creator andy reuben who left the company in 2014 with a reported $90 million exit package. cnn business correspondent is live at google's headquarters in london. what do these employees say and were they afraid of some sort of penalty for participating? >> yeah, jim, poppy, a few hours ago at 11:00 a.m., there was a crowd, i would say about 50 google employees who walked out of the headquarters behind me. they said there were many, many more inside who were gathered in one of their largest meeting rooms as part of the walkout. this is happening across the world at 11:00, 10:00 a.m. in
each of these time zones. theyulse said they're walking out in response to that harrowing really "new york times" article about exactly what you said, these alleged payouts of some of the executives who were accused of alleged sexual harassment and were still given these giant golden parachutes. they said what they want is transparency and accountability. they want google to do an entire sexual harassment report to explain how many times somebody has been accused of sexual harassment, what was done, had anybody left because of it? they want more information. and they were, some of them were apprehensive of speaking to the media and others were not. we spoke to one developer who talked to us about why he was walking out. take a listen. >> there's a walkout from some members of staff, and we're walking out in support of those who have been harassed anywhere in the workplace. and to insure that perpetrators are not rewarded and are not protected. >> so while they felt support
from management for walking out and they felt okay talking to the press, the real question is what happen s next. what does google do next? >> that last payment to andy reuben of that $90 million chunk is still going out this month. this payment is still going on and no one knew about the allegations. that's a big issue. do the employees feel like google is -- not trying to make it right, but trying to better report this stuff? >> they did sayppyt from manage they could participate in the walkout and in a statement from google's coo, he wreet we let googlers known we're aware of the activities for thursday and employees will have the support they need if they participate. as another female employee told me, she said the statement from the ceo is great, but it's a question of what happens down on the ground in all of these individual offices around the world, and that's what the employees are looking for. >> yeah, absolutely. what is the net result of this
in total. thanks for the great reporting. thank you for being there. thank you all for joining us today. we'll see you tomorrow morning. i'm poppy harlow. >> i'm jim sciutto. "at this hour with kate bolduan" starts right now. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. remember, just five days ago, when the president called for unity after the horrific shooting massacre in pittsburgh. in a different context, he called for the very same just last night. speaking to abc news. >> i'm looking to unify. i always like to unify. we will certainly try. >> to unify. well, this is the opposite of that. a campaign video sent out by the president to his millions of twitter followers. it could be the most racially charged and divisive campaign video in decades, pai