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dischord and distrust, americans will vote on tuesday. the president himself is not up for referendum but it is a reflex on his administration. >> a vote for david is a vote for me. a vote for steve is a vote for me. >> which way will it go. >> i have a great panel to talk about it. also, brazil just elected a man who some have compared to donald trump: and angela merkel announced she will step aside in germany as right wing populism has gained ground there. we will take a look at the state of democracy around the world. first here's my take. it is commonplace to share and read about president trump's takeover of the republican party. and suddenly there is lots of evidence that the gop is animated these days by an unquestioning devotion to trump and whatever his ideas may be at any given moment. but the problem for the republicans is that they are now becoming the party not of donald
trump, but of joseph mccarthy. consider the most recent example. trump scared much of the country about a small group of central americans fleeing poverty and violence who are hoping to come to the u.s. border and apply for asylum. it is reasonable to oppose letting them in, but republicans have not been content to oppose granting asylum. they have concocted facts out of thin air and concocted conspiracies about who is behind this group of migrants. two weeks, fox news suggested more than 100 isis fighters can be caught trying to use this caravan. trump arc devoted viewer of fox, pounced on claim, declaring that unknown middle easterners joined the caravan. matt gates of florida questioned whether george soros is funding
the movement? none of them have been proven but they are conversed about all over the country. so much so that senior california leaders repeat it almost reflexively. an official in iowa says they concocted a scheme. the slurs against soros are revealing. george soros is one of the most successful capitalists in history whose foundation has spent $14 billion to date much of it to support anti-communist and human rights group in eastern europe and around the world. he funded liberal ideas for sure from prison reform to the legalization of marijuana many of which are now in the mainstream.
why the focus on him? he's not the only big funder of liberal causes and candidates. soros is the perfect bogey man for conspiracy theorists. it is rich, powerful, grew up abroad and has a foreign accent. plus he is jewish. many republicans speak openly and often about the dangers of the globalists. for some reason, these globalists all tend to be jewish finance years, blank fine, yellen, george soros, gary cohn. given these smears, one can conclude that elements of the republican party are clueless or encouraging it. america has a history of paranoid politics infused with the belief there is some conspiracy to betray the public. these voices used to be peripheral voiced by marginal figures. when they seemed to be growing as with the john birch society
in the 1960s, those like buckley denounced them. today, senior republicans emulate them. president trump has given a ringing endorsement to alex jones the country's most influential and extreme conspiracy theorist. trump said in a 2015 interview with jones, your reputation is amazing. i will not let you down. the republican party has many good people and good ideas. none of them married while it feeds conspiracies and paranoia i think theed with bigotry and anti-semiticism. until that cancer excised it should not be entrusted with power. for more, go to the website and read my "washington post" column for this week. let's get started.
let's go to today's political panel, katrina van den hoobl, of the nation. anthony scaramucci was briefly the communication director at the trump white house. he is the author of a new book trump, the blue collar president. and james fallows is a national correspondent for the atlantic. he is a coauthor of our towns, a 1-000 mile journey into the heart of america. jim, if you were to look at the state of america, the statistics, the economy is doing very, very well, consumer confidence is very high. unemployment is down. things like crime are down. illegal immigration is way down. and yet donald trump is running not on a moderning in america campaign, but an evening in america campaign, some might say midnight in america campaign.
why do you think that is. >> it is a fundamental question. of course we are all operating behind a vale of ignorance here. three days we will all say this was a huge mistake, like pete wilson in california anti-immigrant campaign. i think there are two things we can say now. number one is emphasize how different this is from the way any past president has behaved. that usually they have taken any opportunity to use positive economic news as the thing to bring everybody together. people who didn't support them. so you can think of ronald reagan running for re-election. bill clinton chafed that al gore didn't run on the peace and prosperity notion. people feel better about the direction of their lives than this this dark tone suggests.
i think it is interesting that the places where you have the strongest anti-immigrant fear which trump is closing with are places without immigrants, places like steve king's district. >> anthony, trump has kind of a base only strategy. one of the thing that people try to understand about this is where does this come from? why does he -- he plays on people's fears more than their hopes. it seemed to work well for him in primaries. i think he alone figured out on the whole republican ticket the people didn't want to hear about a version the reagan formula, they wanted to hear about peoples. is that instinct for him now? >> i would frame it differently. what the president was saying about illegal immigration is by stopping illegal immigration you take the slack out of the labor market. that effectively happened in the african-american and the hispanic american labor statistics. they are the lowest in recorded
history. it is a base strategy, fareed, because he is trying to get the participation up. he recognizes as most president do he's the leader now and the opposition is going to be more angry and they are going to come out and vote pour aggressively. a lot of other presidents took more of a rose garden strategy as it related to to go out on the campaign. he decided not to do that. he is barn storming the nation. he is making a bet, if he makes the bet and he wins people will say he is a genius three days from now. if he doesn't win, people will say president obama bot shell acted in 2010, lost 63 seats. i am likely going to lose 35. he will call it a win and reframe it. in his mind i don't think he has risk in this strategy. >> who is going to turn out more? we see the early turnout numbers. turnout is up. do you think it is the democrats or the trump republicans? >> as we were talking about fareed, in texas and georgia you
are seeing a 400% increase among young voters which suggests an enthusiasm for democratic candidates. people who are studying the mobilization and the activism on the group in the grassroots say they haven't seen anything like this since 20126789 it is all about turnout that's very important. i take hope from a resurgence of progressive energy and candidates across this country from omaha to detroit, from brooklyn to amish country in pennsylvania. i think in that you see a new generation seeking change, not just resistance, but wanting to shape the future. you see women mobilized as never before. they came out of the women's march, the largest political protest in u.s. history not just to march but to run for something. >> let me ask you, the "washington post" has new poll out which says that the generic ballot has been cut almost i think from 15 points to is 1 or
almost 8, almost in traffic. >> right. >> they attribute it to the fact that trump has been able to nationalize immigration an issue that doesn't play well for the democrats. are democrats taking the bait and letting the election be defined by immigration. >> no. look at the closing arguments. trump is closing with fear and bigotry. democrats are closing with health care and pointing to congress members who voted 20 times to repeal the aca. the democrats need an aspirational message moving forward about how you invest in the working people of this country for economic growth and how you show the government is on the side, on the side of people. but i am excited that i think we are witnessing a sea change. i am cautious about tuesday because we need to be cautious. but i think the house goes back. but more important in some ways as important look at the state houses look at governorships and
lets hope that the barriers to democratic vish you -- it is not a right/left issue. >> we have 45 seconds. >> i agree with katrina district by district it is health care economic issues and by recognizing the immigration fury but they are not sort of taking the bait. the other turnout point that i agree is crucial is not how many people go to the polls on tuesday but haem people entered the process. young people, veterans, women, people of different races. we saw that before in is the 74 with the waetgate good morning, 1994 with newt gingrich rich. 2004 with the tea party. this could be another wave of that sort. when we come back, how trump would react if there were a democratic house of representatives.
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we are back. anthony, let's possible it conventional wisdom is right, democrats take the house, not the senate. how does trump we act in a situation like this? the base only strategy might work out well, bring turnout up, but for governing it is a harder strategy. >> it is harder. he will take two choices, either build a bridge to the democrats, try to build on infrastructure or lean into the democrats so there is more political dysfunction going into the to 20 re-election campaign. i think his instincts to be to build a bridge to them. because at the ends of the day, the president always said this on the campaign trail and in private there are deals to get
done. he is going to get the trade deal done with china, i believe by january. he will have the trade deal done with canada and mexico. if he can cut an immigration deal going into the 2020 re-election campaign that will be fabulous for him. and he won't say that he lost. >> he never says that. >> you watched him and known him for a long time. do you think he operates from instinct or analysis. >> combination. >> when he does this thing, i am going for the cultural issues not the economic issues. >> arguably the best instincts i have seen politically, but people haven't given him enough credit for test his analytical capability. he is analyzing the data saying i need to get the voter participation up. i am going to go after my base and tell them this is an election about he moo personally and i am going to barn storm the
nation. he is is what the nfl calls a game changing player. the other presidents said you know what, rose garden strategy, a couple of campaigns. he is acting like it is the 2016 election. whether you like that about him or not i give him credit for the energy. >> let me say on trump. it is not about trump, it is the force of trumpism, as you spoke about in your powerful opening introduction fareed. we have seen this before. they are enablers in the republican party. it is been hijacked. it is now the party of trump. for the democrats i think what's vital, i mean, trump has not reached out his hand to the democrats. i think they need to take back the house and show they are on the side of people. not vindictive hearings but hearings to hate out affirm if i have aspirational ideas they can go after when trump is out of power. exposing corruption that hurts you not just for the sake of
going after corruption because of trump. the congressional progressive based caucus, the largest caucus, they can do a lot to lay out an agenda that is forward looking. >> should there be an impeachment nation. >> where i sit in the nation, there are different views. >> the surest way to build up his support. >> i am for laying down markers to show that the democrats progressives stand with people in this country and trump never drained the swamp, and the swamp is now filled with even more alligators. there is a lot of work to be done. i would say to young people who have entered this as jim said owe eloquently, mobilized for the first time, you are not going to win everything but you must stay in. it is a long struggle. >> the millennial stuff is fascinating. millennials -- i think if you look at people 40 to 65, they are about 50/50
democrat/republican. 20 or 19 to 40, they are 58/34, democrat to republican. >> why do we have voter depression? >> al product of university. >> brainwashing doesn't work. whatever you may think about american campuses. jim, let's talk about previous wave elections. what did you notice about midterm waves previously?
>> in 1974 the democrats won huge gains. gary hart came in after watergate. in 2006, nancy pelosi became speaker. republicans waves were in '94 after reagan and 2010.
the democratic raves were after a scandal. the republican waves were after a president got through his agenda. it is odd about the two parties. on form that suggests the democrats are more motivated at this time. we will see. >> we have to leave it there. thank you. a terrific panel and a very civilized airing of disagreements. i want to say one word to my american viewers. vote. maybe a few more words. if you are over 18 exercise your rights and vote. i
know a lot of people think it is pointless that your voent doesn't married but if we build a culture and everyone difference fewer and fewer will vote other than fanatics. we don't want our politics to be like that. make it a habit and vote. we'll be right back.
margin. he is a far right candidate, and has been called racist, misogynist and homophobic. a day later an ocean away, angela merkel announced she would not seek re-election when her term is up. this means europe's most powerful nation is likely to make a move perhaps to the edges of the politics likely to the right. the worldwide antiestablishment movement is growing. joining me the president and ceo of the international rescue committee. david, you were the kind of smart centrist -- >> i am not a representative of the establishment. >> it was blare, clinton politics. has that been swept away. >> you look at mexico and you have a left wing pop you list that's electsed. brazil a right wing pop you
list. >> i think two things explain the move to the extreme. one you have to talk about the corruption that tainted both the former governments in which both of the two candidates you mentioned ran on. secondly, we are in an age of economic extremes. economic extremes do produce political extremes even if you are not a pure economic determinist you can see that the kind of strains that have been put on societies across the world by economic evaluates are fuelling some of this drive. >> what is the success off the two places where a center left candidate has done well, canada and france? what lesson do you draw from that? >> two things are important. never underestimate the candidate matters. prime minister trudeau, and president may krone. the candidate matters. secondly and very importantly i think both of those candidates ran as representatives of a new kind of future for their countries. they wanted to break with the
past. they weren't say continuity. >> they were also outside the establishment. >> they were change candidates. may krone in his own party and the political system. trudeau from prime minister harper's you a steer and dower view of canada's future. the third thing that's also important is they managed the different social and cultural issues in a skillful way. in both countries they showed they wanted an open engaged modern if you like view of canada and of france. but they were clear they prospect going to be a pushever, not a soft touch. i think that's important in both cases. >> both tough on immigration interestingly. >> prime minister trudeau ran that he would admit 30,000 refugees into canada and is building on canada's role and it was going to be serious.
>> merkel? >> this was always going to be her last term. i think there are two things. i am torn about this. on the one hand she's clearly modernized germany in a remarkable way. it's country more at ease with it self in the modern world than it was 15 years ago. on the other hand despite her profound commitment to the european union europe is at risk today. i would say she hasn't been enough of a reformer in europe. she's really been very, very cautious in the way she developed ear european agenda. president may krone's agendas are stalled. in the next years i don't think there will be a shift in the extreme but at a time when europe needs change it is stalled. i think that's challenge to the portenders to her throne. >> i want to talk about yemen. you were there. i want to show viewers a disturbing picture, a 7-year-old suffering greatly from
malnutrition. this picture was her. she died on thursday. her death has become a symbol of yemen's tragedy. today the times magazine has a cover story that is worth reegd. it is the single best article on yemen i have read. david, you were from. it is the worst humanitarian crisis in the world. one of the things the article points out is a lot of people in yemen blame the united states. they look at saudi arabia's war in yemen. they think it was announced in washington by the saudi ambassador. the weapons are provided by the united states. training, intelligence. >> that picture is not an isolated example. the reason it was right to publish it is that there are according to the u.n. 14 million people on the verge of fim famine. it is a humanitarian emergency.
i drove by sanaa towards the war zone. we got within 45 kilometers. every checkpoint we went through there were 11-year-old soldiers recruited by the houthis with against over their shoulders and they were chanting death to america. that is the reality. on the ground this is seen as america's war. it is not just producing humanitarian katd catastrophe. the politics are impossible. they are notionally being waged to push away the iranians. who are stronger. and they are dliving in the cha chaos. and the imperative for humanitarian and geopolitical reasons is the seesfire call that pompeo issued earlier this week should be followed through. i can tell you from our people on the ground there has been more it iffing since the announcement not less as people try to take advantage -- the saudi led coalition try to take
advantage of the 30-day time span he set. >> briefly, do you have any hope that things are going to change? >> it is in america's power to change this. britain needs to get its pen out and start writing. the french need to come in as well. and the security council needs to issue a call to codify mike pompeo's call for a seesfire into a set of demands on the parties and opening of the ports, opening of sanaa airport, the payment of the salaries to doctors and nurses because children like the ones one you showed are not getting treated because of the war, but also because doctors and nurses are not getting paid. >> do you have any hope this is going to happen? >> there is a chink of light with the public american recognition that the war strategy is failing and it is now time to -- we are in a hole. they have got to stop digging and we have to dig the people of yemen out this terrible situation. >> david miliband always a
pleasure having you on. >> thank you. next on gps, many of us in the first world love to curse our cell phones. they are addictionive and cause us to miss out on real life. in parts of the lesser developed world they have become game changers. that story with one particular country when we come back. watch me. ( ♪ ) mike: i've tried lots of things for my joint pain. now? watch me. ( ♪ ) joni: think i'd give up showing these guys how it's done? please. real people with active psoriatic arthritis are changing the way they fight it. they're moving forward with cosentyx. it's a different kind of targeted biologic. it's proven to help people find less joint pain and clearer skin. don't use if you are allergic to cosentyx. before starting cosentyx you should be checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur.
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baited by technology. the super computers in our pockets otherwise known as cell phones and the social media apps on them. but in the developing world, cell phones and internet access can represent something entirely different, tools that can bring about progress for the economy and society, particularly where the government has failed. nowhere is this more clear than in india where people are coming on line fast. in 2000, india had just 20 million internet users. last year, it had 462 million enter net users and climbing. by 2025, the pool of indian internet users is projected to grow to more than 850 million. why is this happening? most of the users are coming to the internet via smart phones which are extremely cheap in india, as is data. how could this phenomenon change the country and the world? here, former gps senior producer
who is now the managing editor of foreign policy and author of new book, india connected. first the breadth of the scale of the shift is extraordinary. some of the statistics i have seen said two years ago india was 150th in cellular band width consumption in the world. now it is number one, higher than china and the united states. why? >> it is because of the smart phone. if you look at india ten or 15 years ago the only way to get on line would be to have a pc and a land line, which is how americans were getting on line in those days. only 2% of indians had pcs in the year 1999. if you look at that trajectory, indians were never going to get on line in a mass way if it was only for computers or wireless. but the evolution that we have seen in america is a revolution in india. that's because of cheap smart phones that are reaching hundreds of millions of people. that's getting them on line. and fareed, it is more than just
a phone. this is their first camera, their first alarm clock, their first video device. all of that in one device. that's why it is as powerful as it is. >> in many way as lot of things the smart phone will do will allow india to leapfrog over our models western models, american models. for example, indians will essentially skip the laptop and go directly to the phone as the computer, portal to the internet. >> independentians weren't using credit cards. they don't need to because so many are taking their businesses shopping on line and they are using apps, pay pell or venmo. they are able to use those applications to complete transactions and helping them arrive in the digital country. enia is still mostly rural.
it is still a place that has 300 million illiterate people who can speak to their phone and the phone can speak back to them. they can watch videos. this is all happening because of the smart phone revolution. >> the government has created really the first biometric id system. every indian has a biometric id, a random computer generated series of digits. what it means is a banker in india was telling me the on line banking system in india is faster than anywhere else in the world. he can set up an account in three minutes fast. >> that's because this identification system, the biometric system is often connected to bank accounts and allows people to have a form of identification that they didn't have before that essentially says, i am me. it allows it to then connect to various other services in a way that is really remarkable.
the indian model could end up being a different model where the internet and data is more of a public good that is controlled or manage by the government in ways of connecting people through something like on par. >> you talk in the book, which is terrific, about some of the downsides, some of the cautions. i think for our purposes it is worth focusing on the extraordinary opportunity that the technology has given as you say to a very poor country. pleasure to have you on. >> thanks a lot. the founder of linked in reed hoffman on the american midterm elections he also talks about the race to start the next facebook or google in silicon valley. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats moderate to severe plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla,75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting.
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philanthropist. according to forbes he fell off their 400 list because he gave away to much of his money to charity. one of the thing he funds is liberal causes here in america. i wanted to talk to him about politics and his new book. reed hoffman, pleasure to have you on. >> it is great to be on. >> let me ask you about politics. you have been active and you say a lot of people in business share some of your dismay with what trump stands for and what he is doing but they don't want to say anything. why? >> i think the classic thing is hey it is business. i have a responsibility to shareholders, i have a responsibility to customers and all of that. i actually think -- i have this phrase, spriderman ethics. with power comes responsibility. i think personally as part of having business leaders you need to speak up about the future you can see for all of us and you need to have your voice be heard. so i have leaned into politics, unlike ever i have done before
because i think it is so dangerous the path we are on and we need to correct. >> what do you say to people who say the trump administration is presiding over record low unemployment numbers. growth seems strong. what are you complaining about? >> at least two things. one is i think obama and the previous administration did a lot of good things. i think there is a tail wind from that. but i also think that people are underfactoring the amount of stimulus and just debt that's going into propping this up. so they are using subsidy\s to block the impacts of tariffs and other kind of things. i think we are taking a loan against the future that we need to be very cautious about. >> so you have probably looked very carefully at the polls. you are a quantity jock in some sense yourself. what's your sense of what's going to happen in the mid terms? >> so i think we are going to have a very strong showing in
both the house and the senate. i think we have a high probability but people need to get out and vote. i have been talking to business friends and all my friends and saying go vote democrat in the mid terms. >> let me ask you about the basic premise of this new book of yours, blitz scaling. the idea seems to be that in order to manage her cue leasian growth, dizzying growth they should get to scale as fast as they can, even ignore what the customers want. even deal with a certain shoddiness in the product. that sounds different from what a lot of business gurus will say, which is the customer always comes first. explain. >> no the -- in this growing
world, the first to scale is what really matters. the first to scale is the company, the product, the service that establishes the ecosystem, whether it is facebook, or google or airbnb or linked in and the set of techniques to do that are counter-intuitive from a classic business perspective. it is ignore your customer, let fires burn, tolerate bad management. don't know what your customer acquisition cost is or the long term value of the customer is but scale as fast as possible. >> let me ask you about two people who seemed to follow your advice. mark zuckerberg at facebook, famous motto was move fast and break thing. and travis clannic at uber who seemed to move uber as fast as he could to get greater and greater market share. one succeeded spectacularly. the other not so much.
why? >> they both succeed both built interesting companies. mark zuckerberg kept going up the learning curve realized he needed to change his game, created a diversified and strong executive culture where the executive teams were building in infrastructure and evolving the product as it wend. mark zuckerberg, cheryl sandberg and the team learned that. travis misstepped on some of it. he didn't learn now where we are logistics infrastructure so we need to working with kind of government and infrastructure and then we needed to be upgrading our work process such that i am handing more and more responsibilities to an executive layer. that's part of the reason why there was an executive change at uber. >> it seems to me there are two places where your advice can be most successfully utilized, the
united states and china. because if you have an idea in either of those countries you can go to massive scale fast. they are two vast markets, unlike, say, europe, which is still a collection of countries. it is not a surprise to me when you look at the 20 top technology companies 11 are american, 9 are chinese. it seems that china actually follows the hoffman model even more than america. when i look at china you see people just in a desperate search to get bigger the products are often not that great. they are moving really fast and breaking a lot of thing. >> 100%. in our book blitz scaling we call china the land of blitz scaling. there is a bunch of things they can do you nike neekly because they have a huge work force. they can multitask products. they have a bunch of capital. there is a lot of things in blitz scaling that i and we have learned from china. i think also of course silicon
valley which says how do we do this in a single threaded way how do we do it when we have a limited work force for doing it. i think it is possible to do it in places other than china and silicon valley. but china is one of the places i and silicon valley learn from. >> pleasure to have you here. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. i'm dianne feinstein and i approve this message.
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biggest arms importer over that five-year period? was it egypt? saudi arabia? china? or india. stay tuned and we will tell you the correct answer. my booked week is curt anderson's fantasyland. it is a powerful well written book about perhaps the most deeply disturbing phenomenon in america today the way that fantasy eclipsed fact in our politics and culture. if you want to find out why this has happened, radioed this book. the answer to my challenge this week is d, india was the worldest largest arms importer between 2013 and 2017 according to a report by the stockholm international peace research institute. saudi arabia was the second largest importer globally and the larger importer of american weapons. in fact, u.s. arms sales to saudi arabia increased by a stunning 448% in this five-year period compared to the previous five years. thanks to all of you for being
part of my program this week. i will see you next week. it is time to vote. i'm brian stelter. this is a special he had eggs of ""reliable sources" live from washington, d.c. with the u.s. midterm elections already well underway, more than 30 million people already voted and the polls open nationwide on tuesday. turnout is so high, enthusiasm is so high, the newsrooms are treating this like a presidential election. the networks are adding hours and hours of special coverage and covering nail biters from florida to california. so this hour, we are going to go behind the scenes with top editors and critics. we are going to ask how reliable the polls are this time around and what tuesday's big surprises could be. plus, with president trump holding rallies all over the country sinking to new lows with his lies and fear amongering, one of the busiest