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to you. i'm jim sciutto. poppy harlow on assignment, on this midterm election eve, a brand-new cnn poll shows a clear preference among likely voters for control of the next congress. on the so-called generic ballot asking which party should be in charge of congress, 55% say democrats, 42% say republicans. 7 in 10 likely voters say their votes reflect their views of president trump, who is not on any ballot but who tells supporters to pretend that he is. president trump's job approval rating, 39% in our poll. the lowest of any president facing his first midterms in well over 60 years. we will have live reporters this hour on the hottest races, biggest stories as well, beginning with rebecca berg in missouri where the president
will show up for his third rally of the day. close senate race there now. what are you seeing on the ground? >> that's right, jim. the president clearly understands how high the stakes are here in missouri for control of the senate. i'm at a get out the vote event with josh hawley and missouri republicans in springfield, missouri, clear across the state from where the president will be tonight. and josh hawley describes the race here as the firewall for the u.s. senate. could decide power, whether republicans have it or whether democrats have it. so the president understands that coming back to missouri for the second time in a week to try to rally the republican base here. the big wild card in this race, will republicans turn out to support josh hawley? this is a state that has trended very republican over the past few years. and claire mccaskill is fighting those political headwinds. but in our polling, she has been hanging on. the race is neck and neck heading into election day. she could defy history once
again in 2012, of course, she was the top republican target, and she went up against congressman todd akin, who famously talked about legitimate rape and his campaign crashed and burned after that. but claire mccaskill looking to defy the odds once again. the closing message for mccaskill is she's not one of those crazy democrats. that's what we heard from her in a radio ad with her campaign. josh hawley saying she is one of those crazy democrats. here's some literature for the national republican senatorial campaign committee picturing claire mccaskill with hillary clinton. hali mentioned hillary clinton in his closing stump speech as well, saying that claire mccaskill is just like hillary, jim. >> rebecca berg in those republican races that can be radioactive. thanks very much. joining me to talk about these elections and what they mean for this president, for the congress, susan page, david gergen, symone sanders, and rob estarenose. we're going to start with you
because you have seen a couple elections through the years, and worked for both democrats and republicans. you had a pretty big spread on the gener iic ballot. a presidential rating in the 30s. what does that say to you? >> it says to me that there's been a shift in the last couple weeks. i think this is starting to break toward the democrats. the president had a lot of momentum coming out of the kavanaugh hearings. good economy and all the rest, but this week of violence with the pipe bombs and the shootings and then top that off with the whole caravan stunt, which i think is seen now as a stunt, suggests that this could be a real shift, a dramatic shift. it could really bring in the house and even change the odds on the senate. i was quite surprised by the polling. >> susan page, the one figure in there that was tighter in a positive, you might say, for republicans, is the enthusiasm gap. democrats had a pretty wide enthusiasm gap. the latest numbers we had, i
think it was 68% of democratic voters view the race -- their vote enthusiastically. 64%. so pretty much tied there. does that make things look a little better for republicans as voters go to the polls tomorrow? >> really, as we say always, the depends on turnout. turnout depends on enthusiasm. that's a very good sign for republicans. two good signs for republicans. one is the economy. the economic numbers last week were excellent. unemployment at historic lows. wages starting to go up. you would think it would be an election fought on that ground. it has not been because of president's own desire to talk more about immigration. there are some signs that republicans could some some heart in it, but it's true this generic ballot is one thing we look at closely, and presidential approval, which is tied to how the party in power fares in a midterm election, those are just disquieting for the white house. >> rob, cnn political commentator, also member of the
2020 trump re-election advisory council. why isn't the president screaming economic numbers from the rooftop at every moment given the numbers and instead going for the message of the barbarians att the gate? >> first, the economy is terrific. most people realize that. it plays to his strength, and he should be leading with that in everything he does. >> but he's not. >> he's not, and i think that's a mistake. he is mentioning it, but he swiftly turns to immigration. health care is a big achilles heel for republicans. immigration is a positive for republican voters. so i think if he's going to talk about immigration, he has to tone it down a little bit, but i think it helps with the base to bring out republicans. in all the polls, republicans are really concerned about immigration. and it's amazing how -- >> shows up in the cnn polling as well. >> it went from the images of a caravan, which i think unnerved a lot of people, to his mistake. i don't think he should have said this, turning to birthright. that changed the whole dynamic. >> going too far?
>> it changed the topic and images from a caravan which was appealing, not only to republicans, but moderates and suburban voters and then it switched to birthright. >> your response. >> actually, republicans on the ballot this fall, tomorrow, would much rather be talking about the economy, and they wouldn't like to talk about health care. frankly, democrats have been beating the drum on health care across the country. from wisconsin to missouri and everywhere in between. and i think that's what's going to yield democrats wins on tuesday. i think the president's talking points about immigration and trying to scare people to the polls is not going to work. it's not going to work. and i think it's sad that in the closing days of this election, that's the linchpin, what he wants to talk about. >> not just him. democrats in states like missouri and north dakota and indiana, they're talking about it. >> they're forced to talk about it. >> it's a different message, though, to be clear. they're talking about immigration and border security. they're not portraying these
sort of barbarian hordes at the gate, rapists and talking about deploying soldiers. there's a difference. >> but they are talking about immigration. >> david. >> the president has a penchant for scaring people because that makes people anxious, and it also makes them embrace strongmen. somebody who can bring order out of this, but the economic numbers gave him a chance to give a different message, that is i'm going to make the world more secure for you, i'm going to make the world safer for you. we have all these jobs, and i think he had a shot of bringing in a lot of independents and maybe even some suburban women, college-educated women. instead, he decided to play to the fear and not to the hope. i think that's pinned him in to a smaller base to try to get votes from. >> susan, it's an election of contrasts in the numbers because another thing from the cnn poll is that a majority of americans thinks things are going pretty well. 54% say it's going very or fairly well, versus 45% who say
pretty or very badly. that plus the economic numbers typically would spell a pretty good situation for the incumbent party going to election, and yet you have this reversed. >> it's really a disconnect we haven't seen before where the economy is going well, and we don't have an instant foreign policy crisis. we have challenges, but we're not on the verge of some terrible war. and yet people think the country is headed in the wrong direction. that reflects, i think, the rhetoric on the president's part that has been divisive and i think even i think that has had the effect of making americans worried about the direction of our democracy, even if they think the economy is going pretty well. >> interesting to see, first of all, there's a lot that can happen between now and tomorrow. interesting to see if the political tactics change after that. thanks to all of you. we got through a lot there. stay with us because we have more to talk about. georgia secretary of state and candidate for governor launching an investigation, he says, into the state democratic party right before the election. now his democratic opponent,
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>> no, there's not, jim. but we can explain to you what led the secretary of state's office to open up this investigation. it was a series of e-mail communications they received that looked to them like two democratic operatives discussing a plan to try to attack vulnerabilities within the state's voter registration database and also included the computer programming script to do so. but as it turns out, there was an e-mail that preceded those that the secretary of state's office didn't initially get. and that was an e-mail from a concerned citizen who reached out to the state's voter protection hotline that is run by the democratic party, to make them aware of these vulnerabilities that he sort of stumbled upon when he was checking out the status of his own voter registration information. so the democrats have denied any association with discovering or attempting to take advantage of what they say are vulnerabilities in the system, and stacey abrams responded this morning.
>> it's a witch hunt that was created by someone who is abusing his power. friday, brian kemp was notified there was yet another flaw in the election security system. twice before, he has accidentally released the information of 6 million georgians. this was about to happen again. instead of owning up to it, taking responsibility, and seeking a way to fix the flaw, he instead decided to blame democrats because he does that. >> both candidates using this as an opportunity to rile up their polarized bases. we need to delineate any communications coming from brian kemp as to whether they're from his office as secretary of state or from his campaign. the rhetoric from his campaign much more aggressive as he says these power hungry radicals should be held accountable for their criminal behavior. >> though no evidence of criminal behavior. now to the key battleground state of florida where one of the biggest races for governor in the country down to the wire now. the latest poll shows the democrat with a very slight edge there. you see four points. gillum over desantis.
ryan nobles is following this matchup from tallahassee. tell us what you're seeing in the final hours there, ryan? >> well, jim, right now, democrats are hopeful this could be a historic night for them on many fronts. first, keep this in meantime, a democrat has not been the governor of florida since 1999. and their candidate, andrew gillum, who has a slight edge in the polls right now, would be the state's first african-american governor. democrats are very excited about that possibility. but republicans by no means have given up this fight, and president trump himself has become personally invested in this race. he has been to florida on two different occasions and he's tweeted several times in support of the republican candidate, ron desantis, even the earlier this morning, if andrew gillum does the same jaup in florida as he did in tallahassee, the state would be a crime ridden mess. desantis running arm in arm with president trump as we get closer to the polls being closed here in florida. >> will that pay off? of course, the other big race in
florida for senate. three-term democratic senator bill nelson trying to keep that seat from the state's governor, rick scott. tell us what's happening there. >> well, this is a race that could play a big role in determining who controls the senate at the end of election night. it's much different than the governor's race where you have two relatively newcomers. these are two established candidates in florida. rick scott, the current governor, described by nelson as benefitting personally tromhis time as governor. rick scott has accused bill nelson as being out of touch and in office too much and not the change florida needs. there's a good chance, maybe not a good chance, but the possibility that voters could split the ticket and send a republican or democrat to the governor's mansion and then do opposite in the senate race. that's one of the things we're going to be keeping an eye on here tomorrow night in florida. >> loss of races to watch. ryan nobles in florida, thanks
very much. panel back with me now. let's start on the georgia race because you already have this strange dynamic here of the -- and it's not the first time it's happened to have a secretary of state run for state office, and typically the secretary of state oversees the races. here you have one, and where want to ask you, rob, as you look at this, it sounds like what happened here is that a whistleblower, not a whistleblower, a concerned citizen said hey, there may be vulnerabilities in the system. democrats got word of it, now they're accused of hacking the system. is that a fair representation? >> what you said at first is right. secretary of states have run in the past. they have stayed in office and run. this is not unique. >> the question is do you abuse that position? >> i hope he's not, but the fbi has been alerted and homeland security. so we'll find out in the days afterwards whether or not there's realism to this or not, but i think in these days of hacking and these machines are easy to hack, we have seen it internationally, we have seen it within, that you have to take it
seriously. you have to be alerted. >> agreed, but brian kemp is the current secretary of state. in 2016, he was one of the only secretary of states in the country to refuse help from the homeland of security to shore up the election system in georgia. if there are vulnerabilities in the system, it falls on brian kemp. i think it's laughable for him to try it pass it off on the democrats. this is clearly a failure of him to do his job. while, yes, secretary of states do run for office all the time, what has happened in georgia is unique because there have been so many questions surrounding access to the polls. there have been accusations and lawsuits about voter suppression efforts. spearheaded by the secretary of state's office, which is why this is -- >> and he lost a case in court regarding matching signatures, which was read as a form of voter suppression. >> let's not hide the fact this is racially tinged race. race has been hanging over this from the beginning. there's now a robocall apparently in georgia, you know,
telling voters that stacey abrams is the poor man's aunt jemima. if that's not racially charged, i don't know what is. so the fact that other secretaries of state have held office and also run at the same time overseeing the process is true. but it's still wrong. it's still a clear conflict of interest. and the problem we have now with mr. kemp, maybe otherwise a good candidate, but in all sorts of ways he has been trying to manipulate the system and make sure votes don't count, and by the way, mostly a lly african-an votes. >> what's your response? it comes down to hi you exercise that power. >> i think that's discussing the robocall. that happens everywhere. one cautionary note -- >> it does not happen everywhere. >> i had it against me in elections where people have said completely false things. and here's the one thing i was going to bring up to david.
the one cautionary tale is you don't know who is actually doing these calls. sometimes the actual side that would gain from it does it or somebody as a surrogate does it. >> democrats in georgia are not running racist robocalls accusing stacey abrahms of being a poor man's aunt jemima. that is not happening. that's ridiculous. >> very, very careful with anonymous calls. >> brian kemp is about to lose the race and he will do anything and everything he can in my opinion to steal this election. so the best way to stamp that out is for people to vote. for folks in georgia, i hope they go to the polls and i hope they elect stacey abrams. >> this goes to the overall tenor of the race. 74% of respondents believe today's political rhetoric is encouraging violence. you talk about race in the georgia election. you talk about the president's comments regarding various races around the country. does this come back to the president setting the tone here? and are republicans as well by
not standing up to that, do they bear responsibility for that tone? >> i think much of this election tone has been set by the president. the president has set the tone of our politics since he was elected two years ago. and i also think it's one of the most distressing things we can see in terms of just the cost to our country. there was a georgetown university poll that came out that said a third of democrats and third of republicans said member of the other party never had the interest of the country at heart. that goes to the kind of fundamental bargain. i'm going to run, you're going to run. sometimes i'm going to win, sometimes you're going to win, and i september that. you may have different political views but you have the interest of the country at heart. the degree to which that has been eroded is serious thing for the united states. >> you see it in conversations over the dinner table at home. >> i want to push back that the tone is only at the top. i remember walking out of the new york hilton around 4:00 a.m. after trump won, and there were
the most vile protests, signs with the most vile things. it's been that way since election night on the left. you have seen it in rallies and protests and antifa and all those other things. i would say we're a mess as a country, but it's not one person to blame. >> i'm going to say, look, only one party has been kids in cages. >> that's right. it started with obama. >> the president is the person at the top using this inflammatory rhetoric to scare people to the polls. >> listen, way to get your opinion across. go to the polls. make your decision there. thanks to all of you. a lot to discuss today. coming up, republican congressman steve king facing something that he's not used to in that seat. that's a tight race. hello, i'm an idaho potato farmer. as you probably know, i've been looking all over for our big idaho potato truck. it's out there somewhere reminding folks about heart healthy idaho potatoes and making contributions to local charities.
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this morning, the race for a house seat in iowa is tightening as republican congressman steve king faces fallout of his recent bigoted remarks and retweets of nazi sympathizers. right now, according to a "new york times" poll, king still holding a 5% lead over his democratic challenger. that's noteworthy given this district trump won by 27 points, 27% over hillary clinton in 2016. joining me now is king's democratic challenger, j. dmpd.
scholt scholten. thank you for taking the time. we did reach out in terms of equal time to steve king by e-mail to join us today and have not received an answer. let's start with you. you're aware of congressman king's rhetoric, his history of retweeting nazi sympathizers. yet, you're still losing in this district here. explain how that's possible. >> well, it's complicated. there's not one thing about it, but we all know him through his headlines outside the district, but in the district, it doesn't always resonate or it doesn't always penetrate. so there's a lot of people who just vote for him because he's the republican and there's 70,000 more republicans than there are democrats. but there's also as many independents as there are republicans, so that's where we're really focused for the last 15 months, really trying to talk to those folks, and everything we're seeing, it's going to come down to the wire. >> let me ask you this because it's a question we often ask. we were just discussing it. in these races, as you're
talking to constituents, are they telling you that their voting issue is, for instance, the rhetoric of steve king or even the president's behavior and rhetoric? or are they saying to you, listen, for me, it's about health care, for me, it's about tariffs on farm products. of course, a key issue in the state of iowa. what are they saying to you by and large as their voting issue this year? >> well, and that's the thing. for the last 15 months, we have gone out there three different times to all 39 counties. it's a pretty big district. and the last time we did it, we did a town hall in all 39 counties. and we had a lot of great dialogue. we talk about health care. and when we had our farm forums over the summer, as much as we're talking about tariffs or market consolidation or low commodity prices or the price of beans, we talk about health care because farmers need that. and so all the other stuff tends to be a negative and kind of white noise, where our campaign has been very disciplined, very
focused on the issues. and that shows the contrast. and that's one of the things about king. he gets all these headlines and for years people would say, oh, that's just steve being steve. like that weird uncle, but what we're seeing now are people are fed up. we're seeing he's not on the farm bill conference committee. the group that dictates what the farm bill is, and that's the negative impact in the district on his rhetoric. >> so let me ask you this. we know some corporations actually in the wake of his rhetoric have pulled their sponsorship, their donations to him. we were curious, have they turned around and given that money, donated it to your campaign? >> that is not but that's okay because we took a pledge to not take corporate pac money. our campaign has been about the people. we've been the small grassroots campaign that has continued to grow and grow and grow. that's how you have seen a campaign that's gone from 20 points down a year ago to 10 points down to 6 points down to
we're within single digits and last monday came out we were within one point. >> let me ask you this because we have heard this from some republicans. my colleagues have heard this in the field. an exhaustion with some of these national issues. an exhaustion with hearing about the president's rhetoric, et cetera. when you speak to voters, what do they say is the voting issue for them this year? >> a lot of it is change, because a lot of the fourth district, regardless if you're democrat or republican or a non-party voter, you're frustrated with what's happening in d.c. and the amount of special interests and self-interest that dictates our democracy, people are done with that. people want people to go, elected officials to go to d.c. to fight for them, and that's what our campaign has been all about from day one, and that's what they have been able to jump on. >> j.d. scholten, running tomorrow. thanks for taking the time with us. >> thank you for having me. president trump focusing on key states with tight senate
races in particular. this ahead of tomorrow's midterms. republican seem on track to keep their majority there, but do democrats have a path to victory? we're going to explore that after this. a once-in-five hundred year storm should happen every five hundred years, right? fact is, there have been twenty-six in the last decade. allstate is adapting. with drones to assess home damage sooner. and if a flying object damages your car, you can snap a photo and get your claim processed in hours, not days.
missouri, one of 35 seats at steak in the midterms. mark preston joins us now live. mark, missouri key for republicans maintaining control of the senate, and also a place where president trump can make a positive difference? >> it certainly is a place where he can make a difference. that's why we're going to see him there tonight as well as see sean hannity from fox news as well as rush limbaugh, the very famous, the very boisterous talk radio show host. as we're talking about missouri, let's talk about the whole race as a whole as we're looking at it. right now, this is where we stand. we're at 49/51 right now, but this is the real number we're going to start the number on. 45/49. six seats are going to determine whether or not democrats take back control of the senate or republicans hold on to it. first, we go to missouri. we have claire mccaskill and josh hawley. this is a neck and neck race right now. what's interesting about this is when we talk about donald trump and his influence on elections, donald trump won missouri by 19 points in 2016.
so the hawley people feel good about that. all across the midwest, it's the donald trump influence that we think can help certain candidates in this election, specifically in the senate. >> other key bellwethers in the senate or battlegrounds, texas, nevada, tennessee, and florida. they're all close heading into tomorrow. >> yeah, they absolutely are. look, down in florida right now, you have a governor running against an incumbent senator in bill nelson. this race right now up for knrabs. even in texas where we think that ted cruz is going to win re-election, we have seen beto o'rourke run a campaign that we haven't seen a democrat run in the past and has run so successfully. even a loss there, if it's close, will keep it close, jim, and then of course, as we're looking across, there are so many races. indiana as well. trump won this by 19 points. democrats feel good about joe donnelly holding on. but we'll see what happens. then of course, out west, we have nevada and arizona. >> so big picture here, of
course, conventional wisdom is dems, better chance of taking the house. republicans, better chance of keeping the senate. because that's conventional wisdom, we should probably dispense with it, but big picture as you look at the final numbers heading into tomorrow, how does the battleground look for the senate, republican versus democrat? >> quickly, this is all based upon assumptions so who knows if this is going to happen, but we think this is a good indication. let's assume florida goes democrat. that's good news for the democrats. up to tennessee. this would stay republican. look at this, 46/50. when we head up to indiana, let's assume democrats are right, joe donnelly wins. democrats feel good. they're at 47 now. we go to missouri where, of course, donald trump is tonight. let's assume josh hawley pulls it out. 47/51, ajon ralston who is the big handicapper in nevada, he believes jacky rosen is going to beat dean heller. the number is at 48, but the bottom line is you come over
here and take arizona. is that is going to go for martha mcsally, look how close we are, 52/48, but republicans still maintain control. >> a lot of reasons to watch tomorrow night. mark preston, thanks. a new cnnple shows the top issues for voters are immigration and health care. are democrats worried that the president's hard-line stance on immigration will drown out their own message? vo: you're feeling the squeeze.
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for gop candidates? joining me is sarah, a democrat running to represent the 16th district of illinois. thanks very much for taking the time this morning. i should note for our viewers' sake, you're an immigration attorney. so you have particular experience in this space. tell us what you think of president trump's rhetoric and how he's describing immigrants with particular attention to the migrant caravan. >> well, good morning. and thank you for having me on. i am an immigration attorney. i have now practiced under three presidential administrations, and immigration should be the least controversial topic in this country. there's broad bipartisan support to fix our broken, dysfunctional system, but because it makes for such great campaign rhetoric, we have a congress that has failed repeatedly to just fix the problem. >> let me ask you this because health care, a particular issue for you and also one in many districts, it's right up there with immigration in cnn's
polling as to the number two top voting issues for voters in the cycle. you have particular experience because of your mother, what she went through. tell us what case you're making to voters and how they're responding to it this cycle. >> well, my mother died from a preventable illness because she was uninsured and didn't have access to the care she needed. i'm also an employer, and i see how our multipayer private insurance system is eating away at my employees' paychecks and my own small business profit margins. it's unsustainable for any small business. so you know, a more efficient use of the money we already pay in is to have a medicare for all system in this country. it would make our workforce more competitive and take the burden of health care off the backs of employers and employees. it's common sense. >> who would pay for it and what would it cost taxpayers to pay that enormous bill? >> we're already paying for it.
we pay $3.5 trillion a year now, so it's not about paying new money. it's about redirecting the money that we already pay into a more efficient, cheaper system that will cover everyone. and in fact, over the next ten years, we would save $2 trillion over what we pay now under a single-payer system. >> let me ask you this big picture as a final question here, because there's been a lot of criticism from your party of president trump's message, calling it divisive, focused on immigration. a message of fear, et cetera. but there's also been frustration. we heard this even from democrats in the field about what their party's message is beyond we're not that guy. so crystallize for us what is your sales pitch to voters in these final hours. what distinguishes you and your party in 2018? >> look, the democratic party has always stood up for working families. that's what we do. this all comes down to wage issues, health care comes down
to a wage issue. wages have stagnated for 30 years. the cost of everything, including health care, goes up, but our paychecks don't get bigger. this is what's causing economic anxiety. we have a president who speaks very violently and then seems surprised when people react violently. i think a lot about harry truman and his sign on his desk that says the buck stops here. we have a president that will not take responsibility for any of his negative actions. that's unacceptable. i'm running against an opponent who is absent from our district. he's not responsive to constituents, and has refused 17 invitations for a public debate this election cycle. people want accountability in government. that's something we hunger for, especially in my district. and we don't have it now. so tomorrow is our opportunity to elect people that will be accountable to the people they're supposed to represent. >> sara dady, running congress
in the 16th district of illinois. thanks very much for taking the time. >> thank you for having me on. >> good to have you on. joining me now, her opponent, the incumbent republican congressman adam kinzinger. i want to ask you, you first about this big picture, because it is so dominated the discussion from the president's perspective as he's been going state to state, delivering this republican party closing argument as it were. this focus on immigration, this focus on the migrant caravan, the descriptions, the fear, the deployment of troops to the border. i wonder in your view, is that helping or hurting your party in the midterms tomorrow? >> you know, midterms, we'll see that tomorrow. i'm not sure. i think the president has pointed out something that if people don't understand that this is a real concern, i think the caravan, whether it shows up tomorrow or it shows up in a month, i think shows the broader issue which people are concerned
about, which is you have folks who are fleeing, in essence demanding, going through mexico where they should be declaring asylum, and basically demanding that they seemingly have a right to live in the united states. we look at this and say look, we're the most generous country in the world. there is no doubt about that. not only do we house people that are migrants and immigrants and not only do we have a pretty generous immigration system, we also have gone to war to protect people in other lands because of our concern for human rights. so this idea where you see some on the left making it look like we're a cold-hearted country that just doesn't care and hates anybody that is not currently in the united states is wrong. so you're seeing some of that anger and some of that disaffection from folks saying look, quit saying we aren't generous. we're generous. we just don't think people should all be able to come here in a 10,000-person caravan and walk in. >> let me ask you a question because as you know, even your aponets are not saying that the 10,000-person caravan should walk right in. i want to ask you as a veteran,
veteran of iraq and afghanistan, you flew helicopters there. the president's talked about deploying 15,000 troops on the border, which as you know would be more troops, three times as many as the u.s. has in afghanistan now to fight isis. more by 1,000 than the u.s. has in iraq, rather. more than it has by 1,000 in afghanistan to fight the taliban and al qaeda. is that the president using the military to sell a political argument? >> i don't know. don't think so, but maybe. maybe not. here's what i know. i have worked the border in a military capacity. the military plays a very important role on the border. especially when it comes to things like this. it's not that the 15,000 troops are going to go up and level m-16s and fight to protect the border. it's that they're going to be alleviating some of the projects that need done, some of the paperwork backlog and allowing the people who do have law enforcement capability to go from doing that job to the front lines to apprehend people crossing the border. i have done it. there's a very big difference
between 15,000 troops on the border of mexico and 15,000 troops in afghanistan. in afghanistan, they're backed by artillery, f-16 fighter jets, b-2 bombers, isr capability and they can impment combat power without troops being involved. in this case, troops will do a job, maybe it's paperwork, maybe it's fencing. i think there is a role for the u.s. military to defend the border but we're not talking about fighting. >> congressman adam kin singer, a big day for you tomorrow. thank you for taking time in the final hours to talk to us. >> you bet. see you. we want to end today's show telling you about mayor brent taylor of north ogden, utah. taylor, temporarily stepped down as mayor to deploy to afghanistan, as we were just talking about, with the utah army national guard. on saturday, he was killed in a so-called insider attack in
kabul. taylor leaves behind a wife and seven children, aged between 11 months old and 13 years old. taylor's last facebook post, even more poin ynlt as we head into the midterms. he said the following, as the usa gets ready to vote in our own election next week, i hope everyone back home exercised their precious right to vote, and whether republicans or democrats win, we all remember we have far more as americans that unites us than divides us. united we stand, divided we fall. god bless america. that was his final call to vote tomorrow, and we couldn't think of a more powerful, more meaningful words as we go into these elections. thanks for joining us today. and we'll be right back. your company is constantly evolving. and the decisions you make have far reaching implications. the right relationship with a corporate bank who understands your industry and your world can help you make well informed choices and stay ahead of opportunities. pnc brings you the resources of one of the
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hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan taking the show on the road to d.c. for a very important reason. if i need to tell you at this point, we have an issue with you. your vote decides what happens here, and it happens tomorrow. high stakes, huge drama, and a potential game changer. we're one day away from the midterm election and there's one thing both republicans and democrats can agree on, probably the only thing. tomorrow's outcome is the whole ball game. >> america's at a crossroads. the health care of millions is on the ballot. a fair shake for working families is on ballot. perhaps most importantly, the character of our country is on the ballot.