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this is cnn breaking news. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. another mass shootingering another day that americans wake up to a nightmare. a masked gunman stormed into a bar near los angeles and opened fire. a horrific tragedy at a popular college bar in one of the safest communities in the country. 12 people are now dead. the gunman is dead as well. >> he was shooting everything from the speakers to anything. so at least what we saw was just smoke and we saw shots taking off. we tried to get down as fast as we could and get out of there. >> i heard the first gunshot and looked over. then i saw him with the gun. i kind of dropped on the floor. he kept shooting. >> we were at the bar having fun, dancing.
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and then all of a sudden, you're like the bang, bang of the gunshots, and it started going crazy. >> started hearing these big pops. pop, pop, pop. there was probably three or four. i hit the ground, i look up. the security guard is dead. i don't want to say dead, but he was shot. he was down. >> all of a sudden, you heard -- i knew it was bullets. i knew it was shots fired. a lot of the young people, they thought it was not real. and i just pulled him down and started yelling, get down, get down. >> police have now identified the shooter as a 28-year-old local man and said that he was armed with a handgun. it has been an agonizing night for so many. friends, family, whose loved ones went to the bar. they have not been heard from since. i want to play for you one father speaking to cnn a short time ago. >> cody is a very outgoing boy.
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very outspoken. i'm afraid that cody ran to the gunman instead of ran away from the gunman. that's the kind of boy that cody was or is. >> do you have one of the tracking apps on your phone to see where his phone is? >> i do. i do. and it's there. >> it's at the club. >> it's not moving. it's not moving. that's the problem. >> oh, my god. that's just horrible. nick watt is outside the borderline bar and grill for us. he's been there all night. what are you hearing from police? >> well, listen. first, medical examiners have been going through the scene in there, a horrific scene, covered in blood is how they describe it, and they have been trying to identify the 11 victims. the security guard and inside patrons and employees. they're not releasing those names yet. before we talk about the gunman, i want to talk about one other person, one other victim hailed
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as a hero. sergeant ron helus, and he was one of the first law enforcement officers on the scene. he was here within minutes. they heard, he was there with the california highway patrolman. they heard gunfire inside, and they knew that they had to go in to try and help these people. when they got into the club, they were met with a hail of bullets. sergeant was hit. he was dragged out by the highway patrolman, but he died a few hours later of his injuries. he was 54. he had been on the force 29 years and he was actually sitting in his patrol car on the phone with his wife, and he said something like i love you. i'll sooyou later, and of course, he now never will. talking about the gunman, he was in the u.s. marine corps. was discharged in 2013. and i'm going to let the ventura county sheriff tell you a little bit more about who he was. >> the suspect was identified as ian david long, i-a-n david
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long. birth date of march 27th, 1990. he was 28 years old. we have had several contacts with mr. long over the years. minor events such as a traffic collision. she was a victim of a battery at a local bar in 2015. in april of this year, deputies were called to his house for a subject disturbing. they went to the house, they talked to him. he was somewhat irate, acting a little irrationally. they called out our crisis intervention team, our mental health specialist, who met with him, talked to him, and cleared him. >> now, he was, according to witnesses inside the club, he was dressed in black, and we have been told by authorities, he was armed with a glock .45 pistol with an extended magazine. normally in california, a magazine would have ten rounds plus one in the chamber. this was an extended magazine.
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we don't know how many more rounds it held. but authorities are obviously looking into that right now. they also say they don't know if he reloaded. finally, one positive note. there were six off-duty law enforcement officers in the club at the time, and the sheriff says that one woman came up to him and said, those officers stood in front of my daughter. kate. back to you. >> so many heroes. there should not have to be so many heroes in all of these places all the time. >> joining me to discuss, a lot of new information that's come out in the last couple hours. cnn law enforcement analyst, former secret service agent jonathan wacker is here. art roderick is a former assistant director at the u.s. marshal service, and shimon prokupecz is here as well. what have learned about this gunman, about long, what does it tell you? >> so, first of all, hearing that he was a u.s. marine, so what that tells me is that he
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was highly trained. he knew about how to utilize weapons. he understood tactics. and he had the combat mindset. so kate, what's starting to disturb me about these shooting incidents time and time again is how law enforcement tactics, listen, we lost a hero today in law enforcement. he went in. he put, you know, himself, his safety aside, to help others. what i fear is that people are understanding the law enforcement tactics and they're waiting for law enforcement to respond. i would look at this individual where the moment that law enforcement came through the door, you know, they were almost ambushed, anticipating that law enforcement response. again, someone with this type of training would anticipate that law enforcement response. waiting for them, to again, continue shooting. traditionally in active shooter situations, the assailant does not want to encounter law enforcement. they want to continue killing. but we're seeing a shift here. we saw it in pittsburgh at the
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synagogue. we're seeing it here. i think it's really dangerous and law enforcement has to be really careful now in responding to these active shooter situations. >> that's the last thing you want law enforcement to have to do, to second guess their training and second guess what their innate response tells them they should be doing. >> again, these are dynamic situations but they're heroes every day, sitting in your car, talking to your wife, putting your phone down and going into battle. we lost a hero. >> just disgusting. art, the gun that the sheriff identified, a glock 21 .45 caliber handgun. what does that mean? >> it's a devastating round. the .45 was developed around 1911, 1910. made for stopping power. it only travels around 900 feet per second, compared to like a 223 round which travels at 3,000 feet per second. it's a very large caliber round and it's made to stop
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individuals. now, when you look at the type of handgun he used, a glock 21, generally, the glock 21 with a standard magazine will hold 15 rounds. if he had a regular extended magazine, that would hold up to 26 rounds. so he really wouldn't have to reload, it sounds like in this particular scenario, he was confronted so quickly by sergeant helus, who i agree with jonathan is a hero, and training has showed us that when you can distract a shooter, as sergeant helus did in this particular case, it saves lives. that's exactly what happened here. >> just horrific to think about how much more damage could have been done when you think about it. shimon, it seems, obviously, the investigation is in its infancy. the sheriff has been really candid about that, saying they don't know how many shots he fired. they don't know if he reloaded. talk to me about the extended magazine and what they're
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looking at right now. >> yeah, so the extended magazine could perhaps be one of the things that certainly will take issue with. we have seen extended magazines. high capacity magazines used in other mass shootings. this could become an issue. when did he get it, how did he get it. that's going to go into when exactly the planning may have taken place here. maybe it's something he's had for quite some time. look, he's a legal gun owner, it appears. at least that's what police are saying. so the question is, when did he purchase this extended magazine. did he purchase it for this purpose? we don't know yet. that's part of what i think investigators are doing now. we heard the police say they're waiting for search warrants to go into his car, to go through his home. they have talked to some of his family members. they do have some idea at least of where some of the issues may have been. look, they had this contact with him in april where mental health officials were called. that's going to be important because the sheriff here alluded to perhaps maybe there was some ptsd, and maybe just at that time, when the mental health officials went there, they
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didn't see it. certainly, it seems they knew he was a gun owner. it certainly seems they knew a lot about him, but it doesn't seem to be enough information out there yet or any indiction they had rights to take away his gun or commit him. looking back, they may say hey, maybe there were signs here and we missed them. he lives with his mother, authorities have talked to the mother. lives about three miles from where the shooting took place. so his mother, neighbors say they would see him. he was kind of private, but they would always see his mother. that's going to be an interesting path for authorities here to take. it's really now up to authorities to figure out, again, we keep saying this, why did this happen, what did we miss, you know, and the other thing i want to point out is that, you know, when we were covering the synagogue shooting in pittsburgh, and much was made about how certainly by the president, if law enforcement was on scene, if there was security on scene, they somehow could have prevented it. in this case, we see that here. there was law enforcement on
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scene, there was security on scene, and we still have so many dead here, so many people injured here because really the element of surprise is just no way to prepare. law enforcement has no way to prepare for an element of surprise. we're lucky they were there, but certainly very, very tragic for folks out there. >> i mean, six -- the sheriff said there were six off-duty officers who were at the bar at the time. obviously, just there. maybe enjoying themselves. maybe working as security. and even though they couldn't protect everybody, one mom walked up to the sheriff and said one of them stood in front of her daughter and protected her. so there is something to that. again, so many heroes, and there shouldn't have to be over and over again. great to see you, shimon. thank you, art, jonathan, thanks. >> coming up, there president's sudden move to fire jeff sessions and replace him with a man who has openly criticized special counsel bob mueller. who is matt whitaker and what does it mean for the russian
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investigation. >> ruth bader ginsburg is in the hospital after falling and fracturing three ribs. we have an update on her condition. stay with us. got real. the falsies mascara from maybelline new york. corner-to-corner volume. no gaps. for false lash glam that challenges fake. never fake, always falsies. the falsies mascara. only from maybelline new york. your insurance rates skyrocket you could fix it with a pen. how about using that pen to sign up for new insurance instead? for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ around here, nobody evreally? it i didn't do it so when i heard they added ultra oxi to the cleaning power of tide, i knew it was just what we needed
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jeff sessions is out. a new acting attorney general is in. and the fate of the special couns counsel's russia investigation is in question. sessions was sacked one day after the midterm elections and after months and months and months of very public criticism from the president for recusing himself from the probe. trump appointed sessions' chief of staff, matt whitaker in his place as acting attorney general, something who has made no secret of his opinions about the russia probe. sympathizing on tv, even in
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opinion pieces about the president's complaints about the special counsel investigation. on this show a year ago, he questioned the scope. >> it would be a fishing expedition if they started looking into all of trump's finances. we can't have prosecutors turning over every rock unrelated to any nexus to the underlying issues which is the russian coordination and the 2016 election. >> cnn's laura jarrett is at the justice department. what does this mean for the russia investigation. >> whitaker has not shied away from criticizing mueller's work, but the big question is whether he will actually take any meaningful steps to curtail it as those video clips that you played suggested. he has fiercely defended the president. he has said at length the president did not obstruct justice in the firing of james comey. and he's also suggested there's something of a red line if mueller tried to go after the
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president's personal financial information or that of anyone in his family. he also suggested sort of telegraphed a way that mueller could -- his work could be curtailed by having his budget cut, making it essentially grind to a halt. and given that he can stay on the job as the acting attorney general for 210 days under the vacancies act, it's actually foreseeable he could be around until the mueller probe is wrapped up. we don't have definitive timing on when mueller will wind everything down, but all signs point to it at least being in the process of winding down, as we have reported already that it could be done as soon as the end of this year or beginning of next year. we have to wait and see how all of this plays out. in the meantime, democrats on capitol hill are sounding the alarm already, suggesting calls for emergency hearings about this appointment of whitaker and telling the fbi and the justice department to preserve any and all documents related to both sessions' firing and the mueller probe, kate. >> because investigations are
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coming. great to see you, laura. thank you. i really appreciate it. >> cnn has also learned president trump was going over answers with his attorneys to questions from the special counsel at the same time he was preparing to remove jeff sessions as attorney general. cnn's justice correspondent evan perez has this new reporting. what else have you learned? >> well, one of the things that has been going on behind the scenes is the president has been meeting with his lawyers going over the answers to the mueller questions. the take-home test that we have talked about. >> right. >> we expect that once the president comes back from his trip to france in the next couple days, he's going there for a world war i commemoration, he's going to sit down with his lawyers and they should finish up the answers to robert mueller. then they believe this means this is one of the final pieces for this investigation before robert mueller begins to present his report to, i guess to matt whitaker, who is now in charge of it. >> you're also hearing, and that's a whole other thing we'll
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get to, but you're also hearing that trump's team was, i don't know, somewhat surprised to hear about these recent requests by mueller on records pertaining to roger stone. >> right, i think the surprise is that the request came so late. look, this is an investigation going on for 18 months. and we know that roger stone has been a focus for months of this investigation. his associates are being hauled in to the grand jury. for a request to come in the past month to the president's team for records, call records, and visitor records to trump tower related to roger stone i think struck people a little by surprise. there's a lot of conjecture and spectionulation whether roger stone will be indicted. roger stone says he thinks he is, but we don't know. the question is why is this request coming now? what are the pieces of the puzzle that robert mueller and his team are trying to put together here. >> real quick, how close are you hearing that the mueller team is to preparing their final report? >> they have begun writing the
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report, we're told. people briefed on the matter tell us that they have begun writing it. now the question is what happens to it, now that matt whittakakes in charge of it, it becomes a bigger question of whether there's any parts of this report that ever become public, whether it goes to congress, and of course, matt whitaker is also going to be in charge of any big, important decisions that are made. subpoenas and so on, even charging decisions that come at the end of this, kate. >> all important, important reporting coming out. evan, thanks so much. >> thank you. joining me now in all of this is cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, renato mariotti. i'm going to focus on whitaker and his impact especially as evan is reporting, they're starting to prepare the report. this could be coming to a close in terms of mueller wanting to wrap up the investigation. short of shutting down the mueller probe, how could
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whitaker impact the investigation here? >> well, whitaker has the authority to ask mueller to provide an explanation and justification for investigative steps he takes. and then, in certain circumstances, if he thinks that mueller is straying too far afield, going outside the bounds of justice department guidelines, he could overrule mueller. so you could imagine if whitaker really had in his mind that he wanted to impede mueller, he could start asking him to justify everything he does. because prosecutors exercise judgment and discretion, and they often make a whole bunch of investigative steps in rapid fire. so you could imagine whitaker slowing down mueller, questioning him, overruling him at times. he would be required to report any of that to congress. any times in which he overrules mueller, but you can imagine him slowing him down quite a bit, and he also could fire mueller if he believes that mueller has
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done something that would give him good cause to do so. >> now, with sessions out, which means rod rosenstein no longer overseeing it and whitaker in his place, do you assume without whitaker having done anything yet, do you assume the mueller investigation is in trouble right now? >> i think whitaker's words both in writing as you pointed out, an op-ed that he wrote for cnn, and some of the statements he made on the air, not only the one you played but he also said it in other points, that he didn't think there was any problem with the trump tower meeting. that he would have taken that meeting himself. he thought anyone would have taken it. some of the things he said suggested to me that he wasn't approaching this as somebody who is a prosecutor with an open mind. it seemed to me like he was a partisan, and he has very strong opinions about the mueller investigation. i would be very concerned if i was on that team, if i was one of the prosecutors, i would be
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worried about whether or not this man would be curtailing us in some way. >> and the working assumption is that the investigation is somewhat nearing its end. how could mueller get around any undue influence on his investigation at this point? some folks are saying he probably was thinking this could be -- this could be coming. at some point. are there sealed indictments out there? what would that mean? >> well, if there were sealed indictments, though decisions had already been made. presumably, he already asked rod rosenstein for permission and already obtained those indictments. one way he could have circumvented this, a move many had speculated would happen, not necessarily whitaker, but sessions being fired and a potential change. you could imagine that mueller could have gotten permission in advance from rosenstein for a number of steps that he would not necessarily need to go back to whitaker for.
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that's one thing he could do. i also would imagine that mueller is going to be very careful and thoughtful about his approach going forward. he's going to justify every step he makes. i think really the effect here may be things we never see because mueller may have to be more cautious going forward because he knows that if he is more aggressive or takes an action that could be questioned, whitaker will be there to question it. >> thanks so much. really appreciate it. coming up for us still, supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg in the hospital right now with fractured ribs after suffering a fall. an update on her condition. that's coming up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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nine votes on a lifetime appointment is in anything but tip-top shape, but that said, i think the facts here that the court has publicly released are in a way heartening, if she's got to being hospitalized, the fact she went home on her own, the fact this is just bruised ribbed and not something more serious is something i really take heart as somebody who cares about justice ginsburg and the ideals she has fought for her whole life. the other thing i would say is that justice ginsburg is the most resilient person that i have ever come into contact with. this is her 25th year on the bench. she's someone who has survived cancer twice. she was -- she has never missed a day on the bench. she is someone who after she had a heart stent put in in 2014, my co-author visited her at the supreme court, asked what message she had for all of her fans. she said tell them i'll be back doing push-ups next week. >> i don't mean to laugh, but
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it's so endearing. even when you think at her age, she fell at work, and she goes home. even obviously experiencing discomfort. not realizing she wanted to go to the hospital until this morning and having suffered cracked ribs. everyone knows how painful that really is. and she has had health scares or health issues in the past. cancer, one of them. and has always bounced back, as you're talking about. you have talked to her, you met her, you have interviewed her, met her so many times. how does she talk about her health in general? >> well, i think one reason why she's been so open about her fitness regime, she's been so available to the public is she does want to reassure people that she's okay. i mean, she worked out in the docume documentary, the cnn documentary, "rbg," she also went on stephen colbert's show with her trainer. he has published a book, the rbg
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workout. one of the reasons she's been so visible with the health and resilience she has. she's 85 years old. she's had cancer twice. this is something that i think she wants the world to know she's okay. she also keeps up a schedule that i, as someone 50 years younger than her, would consider exhausting. she's out almost every night going to the theater. she's known to be the fastest justice on the court when it comes to turning around decisions. she's sharp in mind, and she has tried to be as resilient in body as possible given the constraints of her age. >> do you think something like this, a fall, another health issue, do you think that impacts her decision, the question is, when she would decide to retire? >> of course, a lot of liberals are still upset she didn't retire in the obama administration when democrats controlled the senate, but she said she was not yet ready to leave. she still had more to contribute. i think she thinks some other justices retired too early and then she later said that obama
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would not be able to nominate somebody as liberal as she is. now, she has said repeatedly that she has no intention of stepping down as long as she can do the job full steam, and just recently, she actually said she thinks she has a few more years in her. i'm pretty sure unless something else happens, she has no intention of going anywhere. >> no cracked rib is going to stop the notorious rbg. thank you so much. really appreciate it. >> thank you, kate. coming up for us, our breaking news we have been following this morning. when the shots rang out, she ran for her life. we'll talk to one witness who survived the deadly mass shooting in that california bar overnight. that's next. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely. but allstate helps you. with drivewise. feedback that helps you drive safer. and that can lower your cost now that you know the truth... are you in good hands? i'm lucky to get through a shift without a disaster.
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it is the second mass shooting in the united states in less than two weeks. let that set in. a gunman walked into a crowded bar in thousand oaks, california, and opened fire on a crowded dance floor. at least 12 people including a sheriff's deputy are dead this morning. the sheriff says more are injured. joining me right now is one woman when was inside. her name is lindsey. we're respecting her request and not using her last name. she's joining me now on the phone. can you hear me? >> yes, i can. >> thank you for calling in. i sincerely appreciate it. how are you doing right now? >> physically, i'm okay. mentally, keep replaying everything in my mind. i haven't gone to sleep yet,
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so -- >> that's completely understandable. what's replaying in your mind, lindsey? what did you see in there? >> you know, i was closest to the dance floor. the man walked in. i immediately had this feeling of knowing what he was doing. i dropped to the floor and ran for the kitchen. sorry. excuse me. my boyfriend followed behind me. i look over and some borderline staff, they were yelling at me to get up the ladder and go up into the attic, which i thought was brilliant. definitely owe them my life. they had the smartest idea, my boyfriend lifted me up into the hole in the ceiling and that's where we stayed until police got us about an hour later. >> how did you know something was wrong, something wasn't right when that person walked in? >> i have been around guns most of my childhood. and i knew the sound immediately. and in a setting like that, it's
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not something you hear. so as soon as the first shot rang out, i dropped to the floor and just got down. ran to the kitchen. >> i can only imagine what kind of chaos and confusion ensued. you went into a bar to have fun with your boyfriend. and you end up in the attic in the ceiling. >> mm-hmm. >> how did you -- when were you sure you were safe up there? >> to be honest, i was so scared that even when the police came and knocked on the little -- like a little trap door and told us it was okay, i had to ask them over and over, are you sure? are you sure? it wasn't until i went outside and embraced my friends and my boyfriend and knew we were safe. >> what did you see when you were leaving the bar? >> not something that i ever want to remember.
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it was very sad, very sad scene. i tried to put my hands over my eyes. but even just keeping my head down and walking, it's kind of inevitable to see what had happened there. >> oh, my god. and this is a place that you go often. how do you -- >> i have been going there since i was 18. i'm 24. >> how do you make sense of this then? >> you just can't. i mean, you never think something like this is going to happen to you, and next thing you know, you know, you're searching for your friends in a parking lot hoping they're okay. >> have you heard from all of your friends? >> all of my close friends, yes. we're all okay. the staff that i have been made aware of that have been injured,
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i knew them as acquaintances. they smiled at me every time i walked in and got my wristbands, and i heard the sad news about them. >> a sheriff's deputy, ron helus, he was the first person on the scene, and he was shot and later died of his wounds. >> i owe that man my life. i mean, i was terrified. and for somebody that wasn't stuck in the situation to come in and risk his life and end up dying for me, you know, i'm truly blessed. >> we're blessed to have you still here with us. thank you, lindsay. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> poor thing. 24 years old. thank you so much. >> we'll be right back. your bud. it's great. mm-hmm. yeah, and when you move in, geico could help you save on renters' insurance!
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election day has come and gone, but almost a dozen races remain undecided at this hour, and still others are being contested like florida's senate race. bill nelson is demanding a recount right now in his race against republican governor rick scott. nelson said scott has prematurely declared victory. right now, scott is ahead with 50.1% and nelson stands at 49.9% of the vote. according to c nnn's projection. that slim margin could trigger a recount. an automatic recount in florida, as you likely remember from
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2000, only happens when the final margin is less than 5%. that's where they're living now, but the initial vote count will be finalized on saturday at noon. stand by on that. let's go there, though. with me now is the head of florida's republican party. thanks for being here. really appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> there is something about florida, isn't there? always keeps people guessing. do you support a recount in the senate race? >> well, the recount, first of all, i would say this. this recount and what bill nelson is saying is just a desperate attempt by a career politician trying to hold on to power, but having said that, it is prescribed by florida law. so if all the votes are tallied and when it gets up to the secretary of state come saturday, if it does fall within that half a percent, then yes, there will be a recount by florida law. >> what's desperate about it if right now, i mean, looking at -- if you look at where it but when you look at the raw
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votes, the raw votes are 22,000 to 24,000. there are simply not enough ballots on the there to change the election. the margin may change by a couple thousand, but it's not going to change the outcome of the election. rick scott will be the next u.s. senator from the state of florida. >> do you think he jumped the gun that the race is over and it's a sad way for bill nelson to end his career. was he jumping the gun to wait until saturday noon to see if there will be a recount. >> i don't think he jumped the gun at all. when you look at the amount of votes rick scott is up and the flow of vote that has to be counted, there is no way mathematically, they will be able to catch up. the telling point is we have no idea right now how many votes still have to be counted. we know it's not many. the supervisor of elections
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always seem to be the two that we have problems with. they have to be transparent and tell us what they are counting and how many they are counting. right now nobody knows. we keep on seeing the experience theories flying around and all this misinformation. it's a coordinated campaign from the democrats because they are throwing out all these members and not getting anything from the local supervisor of elections in those two counties. >> do you think that they have bad exceptions? when you are calling for transparency, do you think they are -- do you think they are trying to hide something? is that what you are saying? >> what i'm saying is that the only bad intentions i think they have is not being truthful and transparent with the public. that is clearly obvious. they are not giving information whatsoever. what i will tell you, it is just massive gross incompetence on behalf of both of the
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supervisors of elections. miami-dade which has a lot more voters than broward and palm beach. they got all of their votes count and tallied on election night. here we are two days after the election and they are trying to count their votes. this is amazing that the people in broward and people beach not only accept incompetence on behalf of their supervisors, they keep on voting them into office. >> the governor's race is also close. gillum conceded, but put out a statement saying he wants to make sure every vote is accurately counted. the margin is looking at what we have is right there at the .5%. how likely is it that one goes to a recount? >> i chastised mayor gillum said he couldn't do math because of his policies. the mayor and his campaign understand it and understand there is not enough votes to overturn that election either.
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at the end of the day, we are expecting everyone, all five of the candidates to emerge victorious regardless of whether we go through the recount or not. >> the republican shamed a lot of republican who is lost their elections. one of the people he called out was florida congressman carlos car bellow. the point that the president was making in the press conference was, if you wanted my embrace, if you embraced me, you would have won. do you think carlos would have fared better if he embraced the president or would he have lost by more? >> i like carlos. he is a friend, but the fact of the matter is that president donald trump is very popular amongst the base. you do not have to embrace everything that the president says, but there is one thing that is undeniable.
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the president turns out republican voters. i agree with the president that it would have respected him if he would have done that. >> do you like seeing the president name and shame the lawmakers who fought and lost? >> i don't think it's naming and shaming. it's just that the fact of the matter of look at how many voters came out in the state of florida. the president was very active here. he came to this state to campaign twice. we had historic turn out. that does not happen by accident. that happens because president trump came here to turn out the base and it came with just great candidates that we had on the ticket that were espousing great policies and keeping florida the way it is going for decades. people continue to vote for that. >> let's see what happens on saturday with regard to the senate race. appreciate it. thank you. we'll be right back. >> my pleasure.
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matt whitaker the now acting attorney general linked to a company that is said to be a scam. >> not only was he on the advisory board for the now shut down company, but he sent a threatening message to a customer who complained about the company. the company is world patenting marketing. it is slapped with a $26 million fine. the government actually called it a company that was complicit in a scam that bilked thousands of customers out of millions of dollars. this is where whitaker comes into play. he sent an e-mail response to a disgruntled customer and accused the customer of black mail and extortion because they wanted to file a complain with the better business bureau.
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that will be drawing ire from democrats who are already questioning him as acting attorney general, but a lot more from democrats after all this and this company. kate? >> just as he is now settling in as the acting attorney general. appreciate it. thank you all so much for joining me. inside politics with john king starts now. >> thank you for sharing your day with us. new reporting on the special counsel investigation. a request for record about calls and visits by roger stone to trump tower. more mid-term wins for the democrats. two more suburban district s log in republican stands sending democratic women to congress. >> a man opens fire in a southern california nig


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