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today on this day after thanksgiving. i want to wish you and your family a very happy thanksgiving weekend. at this hour starts right now. hello, i'm pamela brown in for kate bolduan on this friday. this morning, new indications that democrats will take a much closer look at president trump's response to the murder of "washington post" journalist jamal khashoggi. congressman adam schiff who will be the chairman of the house intelligence committee in just a few weeks tells "the washington post" democrats plan a, quote, deep dive on saudi arabia. now, that would include among other things finding out what is in the cia assessment of the murder, whether trump is misrepresenting the intel, and if he is, why. the spy agency has said, according to our reporting, that it's highly confident crown prince mohammed bin salman ordered the murder. but president trump has
expressed doubts and defended the saudis, saying the prince hates the crime. joining me now by phone is "washington post" opinion writer greg sargent, the one who spoke to schiff about all of this and also the author of an uncivil war, taking back our democracy in a age of trumpian disinformation and thunder dome politics. thanks for joining the show, greg. first off, what exactly will this investigation entail, and who does schiff want to talk to? what documents does he want to see see? tell us about it. >> thanks for having me on. representative schiff was appropriately circumspect about the details of what they're planning to look at, but in general terms, he told me that they want to examine amongst many other things about the saudi relationship with the united states, what the intelligence community did in fact conclude about the murder. to be clear, he absolutely did not characterize what the
intelligence has found. he refrained from doing that. but the reason that i think it's important to look at what the intelligence found or important for the democrats to do that, is that we will then be able to better judge trump's representation of whether this is really as unknowable as he says. >> right, and as he said yesterday, what the cia feels. just to be clear, you said he wouldn't go into the intelligence. i'm assuming he hasn't seen the full scope of what the cia has now provided to the president, right? that's something he is seeking to see, correct? >> i don't know. and i don't think he would be in a position to say what specifically he's been privy today. but what he did say is that they want to learn as much as possible about what the intelligence found. and also, crucially, he wants the committee, he said, to be debriefed on what the intelligence committee found. what the intelligence found on the murder. the reason that's important is
that if members of congress can be fully armed with really good information about what's known, then they can be in a better position to talk publicly about and to judge the president's own representation of what's known. >> and it's also important because the president himself said that it could be up to congress in terms of how it should respond to the murder of jamal khashoggi. so it is important for them to get down to the bottom of it. what's clear, too, is that congressman schiff told you that they wanted to look at the president's personal business dealings with the saudis, as we heard him say on friday, he doesn't have any dealings, but that doesn't mean congress doesn't want to look at it. >> right, and he was careful to couch that in broader terms as well. what schiff told me was that it's unclear at this point what committees will do what. how that will be sort of parcelled out to various committees because there are a lot of them with a potential
interest in this topic. what they want to look at is the question of whether trump's financial entanglements not just on this particular matter but on many others are shaping u.s. policy. >> and he also said that they want to look at the -- the committee wants to look at saudi arabia in terms of the yemen war, other issues, the arms deal. basically a deep dive on saudi arabia, right? >> yes, and i think that would be welcome in many ways. it's good that what they're promising is a broad evaluation of what the intelligence tells us about that relationship. >> okay. greg, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and i want to bring in cnn national security analyst samantha vinograd. she was a senior adviser to the national security team during the obama administration. thanks so much for coming on. sam, do appreciate it. first question for you. adam schiff saying the house
intelligence committee will investigate the president's response to the khashoggi murder. what would you like to see them look at? >> well, pam, i'm really excited to see the house intel committee return to its actual mission, which is oversight of the intelligence community. its 17 members and military intelligence. that mission, frankly, has been thrown aside in the past few years as it's turned into a partisan arm under the chairmanship of devin nunes. when we look alt what the house intel committee could be doing starting in january, we have to look at the run-up to jamal khashoggi's murder, and we also have to look at what's happened afterwards. remember, with its oversight function, the house intel committee can look at whether the cia or the dni more broadly had any information that khashoggi was under threat before he went to turkey for example. and after they conclude that analysis by speaking with members of the intelligence community, they can look at what
happened in the aftermath of the murder. what the president knew, what the executive branch knew right after the murder, and over the two months or so since the assassination occurred. what information we got when. i want to stress here, there is precedent. i was in the west wing when benghazi happened, and saw what happened when various congressional committees and finally a special committee really looked into the intelligence, called members of the executive branch to come and testify, and developed reports. >> well, on that note, you know, you hear what the president says, right? and then there is the reporting that the cia assessed with high confidence that the crown prince directed the murder of khashoggi, but could the cia's report be made public, should it be made public? could some be declassified. how might that work? >> it certainly could. i sincerely hope there is some unclassified version of the cia high confidence assessment that comes out at some period of time. the entire report, pam, i sincerely hope that does not
become public because it would likely publicly expose what we call sources and methods, the places this information for the report was gathered from. but we just have to look at what happened after the 2016 election. the director of national intelligence issued in january 2017 a declassified version of a highly, highly classified intelligence assessment that provided some really important conclusions about what russia did. we could see the dni issue some version of this high confidence report in the coming weeks. >> all right, i want to close by asking you about what the terkish fm said, responding to the president this morning, saying he has his, quote, head in the sand when it comes to khashoggi's murder. what is the significance of that? >> well, the president has chosen to side with one ally after khashoggi's murder. that's the kingdom of saudi arabia. and not to side with so many of our other allies like turkey or like the europeans that are
choosing to take action, i hope, against jamal khashoggi. what this signals to me is that it's really us versus them, and the us at this point, at least from the president's perspective, is the united states and saudi arabia against any other coalition of countries that may choose to hold khashoggi's murders responsible. now, turkey is obviously in a strange position when it comes to decrying human rights. they're quite guilty of violating them themselves, but they could see turkey working with the danes, the germans, the french, and others to hold khashoggi's murderers responsible. >> really quickly, 30 seconds, what do you say to the administration that would come back to you and say look, we sanctioned 17 of the saudis implicated in the murder? >> i would say we sanctioned scores of gru agents to try to punish vladimir putin for what he's done against our country. we know that his election interference hasn't stopped. sanctioning 17 of mohammed bin
salman's henchmen is not going to deter him from further crimes. he feels emboldened, he does not feel deterred. >> thanks very much. as we know, it's the day after thanksgiving. you know what that means. black friday. it appears to have descended on the winter white house in florida. for the second straight day, a stewing president trump appears to have shifted the holiday to festivus complete with the airing of grievances. today, he's lamenting the lack of bipartisan cooperation in congress. while railing against the court that ruled against his immigration policy. the president's tweet, our highly trained security professionals are not allowed to do their job on the border because of the judicial activism and interference by the ninth circuit. nevertheless, they're working hard to make america a safer place, though hard to do when anybody filing a lawsuit wins. i want to continue this
discussion with our panel. matt lewis, cnn political commentator and senior columnist at the "daily beast" and joe lockhart, commentator and former white house press secretary for president clinton. thank you gentlemen for coming on the show. >> thank you. >> thank you. so i want to ask you, joe, first to you, is now the time for a grand bipartisan bargain on immigration and border security? we hear all this talk about it. is now the time for action? >> well, right now is as good a time as any. we have been working at this since the george w. bush administration. and frankly, i think the votes are there, but the minority of very conservative republicans have stopped it. so if president trump wants some flexibility on immigration policy, he's going to have to show some flexibility. the ingredients are there. it just takes some political will. >> so show some flexibility.
what do you mean by that. >> well, i think in return for border security, he's going to have to show some flexibility on dreamers and allowing the process of people who are here to get a pathway towards citizenship. that's always been the deal. we have gotten very close. but again, it's not going to be president trump dictating and president trump tweeting. if he wants a deal, the ingredients are there. i think the votes are there. but he's going to have to lead here. >> all right, matt, as we all know, the build the wall was a rallying cry and one of the fundamental promises of the trump campaign. does his base expect that? especially as the president looks ahead to the next election? >> yeah, this is, you know, he's setting himself up now for a big missed opportunity and unable to accomplish kind of his signature campaign promise. so i think joe is right. go for it. right now. this is an opportunity for the
president to do something that he really hasn't done, which is to champion a legislative achievement. look, i don't think he's going to get, you know, any sort of amnesty or whatever we want to call that, but the dreamers in exchange for a wall and other things, that's totally doable. the problem is, donald trump can't agree to it, you know, and then change his mind 24 hours later. he has to be consistent and rally around something. >> and he's asking for $5 billion. joe, do you think he could get that with this flexibility? he he so chooses? >> again, i think the wall is a myth in some ways because you're never going to build a wall, but they can put up something that he calls a wall, and everyone, you know, can go home happy. but i think matt brings up an important point. he's going to -- if he wants this big deal, he's going to have some republicans take a political risk and walk the plank with him. and his history is he lets the
republicans walk out and then he cuts the plank out from underneath him. i don't know there's a lot of trust on the hill among republicans for him sticking with this, and without that trust, he can be as flexible as he wants and i don't see a lot of republicans lining up with him. >> matt, i want to go to this sound from the president yesterday, making this big threat when it comes to the southern border. let's listen. >> we find that it gets to a level where we are going to lose control, where people are going to start getting hurt, we will close entry to the country for a period of time. >> the entire border? >> i mean the whole border. >> the president's closing argument for the midterm elections was to stoke fears about the caravan. republicans lost almost 40 seats in the house. what's the strategy here? >> you know, i think that he obviously did have a strategy for the midterms. and that was to fire up the base. i don't think this is necessarily a political strategy. i think this is just donald
trump frankly just talking right now. maybe it's part of a larger strategy of the legislative strategy of trying to fund the border wall. but more than anything else, i think this is just donald trump saying stuff and tweeting stuff when things slow down during the holiday season. >> let's talk about what the president said he was thankful for on thanksgiving yesterday. let's listen. >> what are your thankful for, mr. president? >> well, a great family. and for having made a tremendous difference in this country. i have made a tremendous difference in the country. this country is so much stronger now than it was when i took office, you wouldn't believe it. >> all right, joe. as a former white house press secretary, you hear that and think what? >> you know, i think that there isn't a norm he's not willing to break. people hear that and his base hears that and they agree with him. they think he's the best thing
that happened to this country, but his base represents about 30% to 35% of the country. the rest of the country hears that and says please stop. we're tired of hearing you congratulate yourself. when you go to norms, most presidents by this time in their term have on thanksgiving day and on holidays done some sort of service event. they have gone and seen the troops. the president has been in florida playing golf. that's his right -- >> he did go see the coast guard and had the teleconference with the troops that we talked about. go ahead. >> right, and he lectured the troops on the ninth circuit. again, he does things his own way. his base likes it. as we look forward to 2020, though, it's very hard to see him putting a coalition together, looking at the midterm elections. that isn't at a minimum infused with distaste, and for a lot of people, just repulgz. >> matt lewis, joe lockhart,
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as many of us fought through the stupor of eating too much turkey, president trump maintained a day-long attack on the ninth circuit court which ruled against his latest immigration policy for the u.s./mexico border, denying asylum claims for anyone who crosses the border illegally. >> the border is coming along very well. it's become very strong. we're getting some terrible decisions from the ninth
circuit, as usual. i don't know if we have ever had a victory in the ninth circuit. we have to appeal it, appeal it. a vast number of their decisions get overturned. generally speaking. and it's a shame. it's a shame. it's a disgrace. >> all right. joining me now to discuss this, the lead attorney challenging president trump's asylum ban. the deputy director of the immigrant rights project. thank you for coming on. i want you to respond to what we heard from the president. did you bring this case to the ninth circuit because you thought that court was biased in your favor? >> no, we bring cases all over the country. in fact, on the same day that we had the asylum ban hearing in san francisco, we had another big immigration case on the east coast. we bring cases all over. you know, i don't think it's for us to defend the judiciary. there's nobody better than chief justice roberts to do that. he's done that. i'm not sure there's much more
to say other than i would say personally that i have lost my share of cases before republican judges, before democratic judges. i won my share of cases before democratic and republican judges. you know, we bring the cases based on a variety of strategic reasons. and the plaintiffs in this case were out on the west coast. but again, i think chief justice roberts has said all there is to say about this issue. the real issue is what the president is doing, i think, with asylum. his fight is not really with the courts. it's with congress. and that's what the judge pointed out. the federal law that congress enacted more than 40 years ago, and has reaffirmed over and over, says explicitly, you cannot deny asylum to people based on where they enter the country. and so that's really the president's dispute, is with that federal law. >> i want to go back to just what we heard from the president where he says there is a high number of cases overturned from
the ninth circuit. by our count, there are more -- three other courts that have cases overturned more frequently, so it would have the fourth most overturned cases. but are you concerned that might happen, the administration now saying it will appeal. >> i think, you know, we're always concerned about losing. we think we have very strong arguments. but i don't think where the case was brought or the ninth circuit is going to matter. i think it's going to turn on the strength of our arguments. the supreme court, if it ever gets to the supreme court, and we're a long way from there, where right now we're in the district court, everyone is talking about the ninth circuit, the ninth circuit is an appellate court. we're in the district court. we're a long way from getting to the supreme court, but ultimately, if it got to the supreme court, the supreme court will look at the merits of the arguments and not which circuit it came from. >> i want to ask you, given your position about this "washington post" reporting about the trump administration preparing to implement a plan where asylum
seekers would have to wait in mexico while their requests were being processed. what's your response to that? >> i'm glad you brought that up. we're very concerned and hope that doesn't happen. right now, there are asylum seekers waiting in mexico for weeks and weeks. it is very dangerous. there are families with small children waiting outside, waiting in very dangerous shelters, being preyed upon. there is no reason that needs to happen. we put in evidence in this case showing that there is no crisis at the border. that the numbers have been far higher, triple the numbers, in prior years. and right now, cbp has far more resources than they ever had. there's no reason people can't be processed. we should not be leaving people lingering in mexico. this country -- >> let me just ask you, lee, just to represent the other side who would push back and say, well, this leads to asylum seekers coming into the united states and then they don't show up for their court date and then
they're in the united states and kind of can't be found after that. what would you say to them in response? >> yeah, i think first of all it's factually not true. we have put in evidence to show that asilic seekers do show up for their hearings. and the other thing is just the legal response is that congress has decided in our nation's highest ideals that we need to create a process for people to seek asylum. we can't turn our back on people fleeing danger. we learned that after world war ii. we have enacted these laws. they have worked well. it's just simply factually not true that people are not showing up for their asylum hearings. people can look at the evidence we have put in our case if they're interested. >> okay, lee, thank you so much for coming on the show. >> thank you for having me. this is supposed to be the biggest shopping day of the year. coming up, we brave the black friday crowds to see for ourselves. we'll be back. if you're on medicare, remember
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than 100 people waiting out in 12 degree weather. you know, streamed into this store, many going straight for the big screen tvs. that seems to be the hot seller. also the nintendo switch. that's another big seller as well. that's just store sales. i'm not even getting to the online sales. listen to this. on thanksgiving day, 3.7 billion dollars was spent online. buying electronics, clothes, what they wanted for holiday shopping. that means people were on their phones shopping while eating their thanksgiving turkey. today, black friday, those online sales expected to hit $6.4 billion. by 10:00 a.m. this morning, $643 million has already been spent online. on things like hot wheels. this is actually one of the biggest toys to get this holiday shopping season. people seem to be in a good mood. consumer confidence is high. unemployment is low, and wages are growing. so people are feeling a little more confident to dig a little deeper in their pockets and spend this holiday season.
pamela. >> okay, alison kosik, thank you for bringing us the latest there out in new jersey on this black friday. meantime, stocks opening lower with the dow down slightly right now on this black friday. claire supassion joebastian joi. what's the word? >> the shuffling you're seeing, this is not being reflected on the markets. the big story today is the price of oil. i think we can take a look at the prices because we're seeing very sharp falls. and that is hitting energy stocks and it's denting confidence across the market. the reason for those falls is both supply and demand. fears about too much supply on the market. the u.s. is pumping at a record. the iran sanctions didn't take as much off the market as people were expecting and they're also talking about slowing demand, that the global economy might be starting to slow. we're seeing signs in europe, signs in china. that is denting the prices. this has been seven weeks of declines for the oil prices. they're down about 30%. that's eating into market
sentiment, and of course, worries about trade. we have the trump/xi jinping meeting coming up next week. a lot of concerns that we may not see a thaw in the relationship and lead to the lifting of tariffs. that is what's going on in the market today. >> thanks for breaking it down for us. we appreciate it. coming up on this friday. we speak with the republican congressman who after visiting u.s. troops in afghanistan says president trump needs to do the same. for each job exxonmobil creates, many more are created in the community.
president trump's response to the murder of a "washington post" journalist could be can c coming under scrutiny soon. democrat adam sheff telling "the washington post" he plans to investigate what exactly the cia learned about jamal khashoggi's death and whether the president is, quote, representing something very different. trump has cast doubt on the cia's belief that the saudi crown prince was behind the killings, and joining me now to discuss, republican congressman jim banks of indiana. he also serves on the armed services committee. congressman, thank you for coming on. i want to get right to this "washington post" interview with adam schiff where he said, you know, look, he's going to take over the house intel committee, and he wants to look into the president's response. do you support that? >> certainly, i support more of an investigation into what happened at the embassy in turkey. but we have to look at the reality of what's going on here.
i agree with the president that the world is a complicated and dangerous place. i also trust largely the results of our intelligence community, that this murder was ordered by the saudi crown prince. that being the case, there are some who want to completely shut off saudi arabia. there are others who want to ignore the situation. i don't think we can afford to do either and welcome more investigations into the matter to give us the best -- to give members of congress like myself and the american people the best look at what really happened so we can decide what the best way forward should be. >> you said you do believe the assessment from the cia that the crown prince ordered the murder of khashoggi. so then do you think it was appropriate how the president responded, basically saying he may have, he may not have, but we shouldn't bother with it. and basically stood by saudi arabia and taking the crown prince's word over the assessment of the cia? >> i haven't yet been briefed. members of congress will
probably be briefed further on this situation next week when we go back into session. next tuesday. and hopefully that will occur sooner than later. i'm taking the reports of the confirmation that the cia and other intelligence communities have determined that the saudi crown prince was behind this murder. i'm taking that at your word, at cnn's word and other's word that there is a confirmation that is the case. that being said, congress is prepared to act. congress will act if the administration doesn't do it before congress has a chance to do that. >> in what way will congress act? >> congress is already looking at sanctions, other measures that could be put in place. we also have to realize saudi arabia is a staunch ally of the united states of america. their enemies are our enemies. they're largely aligned with our interests around the world. we can't afford to completely shut saudi arabia out of the picture, but we have to hold them accountable at the same time, too. >> i want to switch gears. the president suggested he may
visit troops in afghanistan. you served there as a naval reserve officer. you just returned from there. now you're calling on the president to make that trip. why is that? >> let's begin with saying first and foremost that this president doesn't need a photo op to show he supports the troops. he just oversaw the beginning of the largest rebuilding of the american military restoring 20% to our funding that was cut during the obama years. he doesn't need to go to afghanistan to show he supports our troops. i just got back from there. i served there in 2014 and '15, as you said, was there earlier this week. the situation on the ground is startling. it's much different, has evolved greatly, even in the few years since i served there. the threat, not just of the taliban but now of isis k, of other groups in afghanistan is real, and much of what i learned in afghanistan, i'm not receiving in briefings in washington, d.c. the president's briefings are probably different than my
briefings but it would be very healthy for the president to go to afghanistan, hear from our military leadership, as well as to show support for our troops. i hope he does that. i'll go with him if he goes. it would be healthy for him to do so. >> but what do you say to some administration officials, including defense secretary mattis who says, look, i don't want the president to go to certain places for his security and for the security of the troops? >> as i understand it, secretary mattis said there are times when he has advised the president not to go to certain places. he left it fairly open ended after that. that doesn't mean that the secretary might not support the president going at some point. if the president wants to go, i'm sure the secretary and others can make it possible for him to do so. again, i think it would be very healthy for the president to go to afghanistan and spend more than just a few minutes thinking about the situation there. he has so many distractions in washington, d.c. he's been effective at dealing with almost every other issue that he's put his full weight behind. and if he determines to make
afghanistan a priority, then he's going to be the president that will go down in the history books as the one who ended the longest war in american history. i'm fully convinced of that. i hope he puts more effort behind afghanistan in the months to come because i believe the opportunity is ripe for him to do that. >> i want to ask you about this moment from the president's phone call with members of the u.s. military yesterday. he was talking to a brigadier general in afghanistan. let's listen. >> a stable afghanistan is good for afghanistan, but we do what we do for america, sir. >> you said it better than anybody could have said. keep them away from our shores, and that's why we're doing the strong borders. you probably see over the news what's happening on our southern border, and our southern border territory. large numbers of people, and in many cases, we have no idea who they are. in many cases, they're not good people. they're bad people. >> so do you see a connection between the fight in afghanistan
and the u.s. border with mexico? >> look, the president was answering questions of our troops. i imagine the troops on the other end of the phone line appreciated that the president was being candid. he was treating them with the respect they deserve, answering their questions about significant issues. that isn't just about afghanistan. the president is right that his job in securing america starts with fighting the enemy off shore and in places like afghanistan so they don't pose a threat to americans' lives here at home. and securing the border is a big part of that. i'm fully convinced that securing our border with mexico is as much of a national security issue as it is related to immigration and i support the president's efforts there as well. >> congressman jim banks, thank you. >> thank you. this weekend, the president is talking with candidates for open positions in the administration. up next, is there a front-runner to take chief of staff john kelly's job? we'll discuss.
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what else are you hearing about the possibility. not everyone in the white house would like to see this. what is going to happen? >> as you know quite well, there continues to be speculation as trump and his current chief of staff continued to clash. one name that is a contender is nick ayers. my colleague and i spoke with almost two dozen people to understand who is this relatively young man who got his start in politics when he was 19 years old with sunny purdue in a georgia governor's race and had a meteoric rise in american politics ever since. supporters praised his loyalty and pointed to his successes on various campaigns. he also has detractor who is do not want him to be chief of staff. pointing to his ambition and that rubs people the wrong way.
he has become close with jared curb near and ivanka trump. he gained the trust of the president as well. one way he maneuvered himself, he joined weekly lunches mostly held on mondays. after the president invited him and generalicle tow join in on the meetings. there is a lot of chit-chat and tv watching, too. two sources told us that's when president trump got to know and like ayers quite a lot. ayers may face questions about how he has been able to make a lot of money over his short career in politics. as he has been pence's chief of staff, he divested from the businesses. one thing we reviewed had his net worth at 12 to $54 million according to disclosure forms. he built wealth through
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3:00 eastern. we are following breaking news out of saint paul, minnesota. a massive explosion levelled a home and local media reported one person was inside set of the blast and has been rushed to the hospital. fire officials are searching for the cause. thanks for joining me. inside politics starts now. welcome to a special holiday edition of inside politics. thanks for being with us. the president threatens another government shut down. can he get anything on his wish list before democrats take control of the house? plus, president trump is apparently accepting resumes and conducting interviews for open staff positions. can a hot shot from the vice president's office be changing desks soon? and the presi