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international viewers for watching. for you cnn talk is next, for our u.s. viewers prosecutors say paul manafort lied to mueller's investigators. "new day" continues right now. we have a lot of phoney stuff like the russian witch-hunt garbage. >> paul manafort lied to the fbi, lied to the special counsel's office. >> to get a cooperation agreement, to throw that away is incredibly reckless. >> the tear gas is a very minor form, it's very safe. >> there has to be a compassionate answer that does not involve tear gassing children. >> people are throwing rocks it's not a good place to have your child. >> the previous administration said manufacturing is never coming back. you need a magic wand. well, we found the magic wand. >> it's insulting. he did not lift one finger. >> gm got $170 million this year, at the same time thousands of people lost their jobs. not fair. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman.
>> all right. good morning and welcome to your "new day." just when you thought -- >> new gentleman i into your new jay, your new day, it's all new this morning. >> just when you thought you saw the last twist in the russia investigation there is this, the president's former campaign chair paul manafort is lying. that's what special counsel robert mueller's team announced overnight and those lies they say breached the plea deal he had with prosecutors. manafort agreed to cooperation, manafort's lawyer says he has been truthful, but the prosecutors say he lied repeatedly in meetings with investigators. so what does that mean? is the truth so damning it is worth manafort risking more jail time? is manafort shopping for a pardon? these are just some of the new questions raised this morning on our new way jay day. >> meanwhile, in one hour polls will open in mississippi for that special election for a u.s. senate seat. the president traveled to that state to throw his support
behind embattled republican senator cindy hyde-smith, but as he campaigned he did lose more ground in the house, a democrat took the lead over an incumbent in california putting a net gain of 40 seats for democrats now within reach. >> joining us now former clinton white house press secretary joe lockhart, "washington post" opinion columnist catherine ram pell and jeffrey toobin. >> why does someone who has a plea a agreement, whose only way is to tell the truth or not lie, why does that people lie? >> because they are a, stupid, b, arrogant, c, shopping for a pardon so they don't have to worry about what the judge is going to sentence them. all of those are possibilities. it is very unusual for someone who has a plea agreement to make the prosecutor so angry that
they tear it up and say, you are getting -- you are not getting any benefit from your cooperation, you're going to jail for a long time. and just in the immediate after math of this, it is likely that paul manafort is going to get a very long sentence as a result of this. >> i'm sorry just to stick with jeffrey for a second, are we overthinking this, if he's going to be pardoned he's going to be pardoned and won't serve that long jail sentence. >> let's see if he's pardoned. donald trump pardons people because it's in his interest to pardon people. >> it's not entirely clear that pardoning paul manafort would be to his benefit. i don't think his base is in love with paul manafort the way they were in love with da initial d'souza or joe arpaio. so the bet on the pardon if that's what this is is far from a sure thing. >> the other part of this, catherine, if you want to say in
here, that's interesting to me is the special counsel's team goes to the judge for sentencing and can lay out how paul manafort lied. it's an opportunity if the special counsel wants to take it to reveal some of what's going on behind the scenes in this case. >> and the special counsel of course has been eerily quiet in recent months because of the lead up to the election. we don't know what they will reve reveal. i think what's interesting and striking about all of this is that mueller has caught multiple other people lying, too. so manafort should have known that mueller was asking questions that he already knew the answer to. flynn, papadopoulos, gates, they all pled guilty to misleading or lying to investigators. manafort should have seen this coming, should have seen the trap that was laid for him which raises the question who is he protecting? was he protecting himself, protecting trump, protecting scary russian thugs who he might have reason to fear? i don't know. but he should have seen this trap laid for him.
>> we can throw up a full screen of the plea deals to date in the mueller probe. michael flynn, rick gates, paul manafort, george papadopoulos who just -- >> he is in jail. >> who just reported, that's it, to jail. how do you see all this, joe he? >> well, i wouldn't overestimate jeffrey's first as being stupid and arrogant. >> not jeffrey himself. paul manafort. >> jeffrey saying stupid and arrogant. as you look at it from trump's perspective, manafort trying to plant -- there's nothing that would please trump more i think than having someone force mueller to chase a couple rabbit holes, like a bunch of misinformation. so i think there is a possibility that this is a pardon play. it's not like i don't think -- even with the plea deal, he was going to have a lot of time out of prison in his life, he is an older gentleman, but i think, you know, this may just be a case of arrogance, someone who thinks he's way smarter than the person asking him the questions.
>> let's also consider the possibility that this is good news for donald trump. >> right. >> because when he pleaded guilty, a lot of people said, oh, he's going to really be a great witness against donald trump, he's going to tell everything, he's going to be an insider. now the mueller office has given up on manafort. they've said he is a hopeless liar, we are not using him, go ahead an sentence him. in that respect it could be seen as good news for trump. >> i want to move on to other news overnight. the new gallup poll has the president's disapproval rating at 60% which matches an all time high in those numbers. catherine, gm announced it is going to shut down some of the plants in the united states and north america, about 15,000 jobs will be lost here. that's not having to do with the president's approval rating today, but if the economic approval is what's been keeping him actually higher -- >> keeping him afloat. >> keeping him afloat. if he starts to have trouble in the rust belt with some of these
manufacturing jobs and if this is perhaps a sign that the economy might be about to slow down that's a real issue. >> i think the issue is that trump made this promise that he was never going to be able to keep. that he was going to usher in a manufacturing renaissance, that he was going to bring back jobs that had already been off shored and these were promises about turning back the clock that were never doable. the fact that gm is laying off all of these workers is partly due to factors related to trump, including the steel and aluminum tariffs which are causing gm something like a billion dollars a year, partly they are related to things unrelated trump like the fact that consumer staiss have changed, but either way it was never within trump's control to turn back the clock and bring back the jobs or retain a lot of these jobs. these are forces beyond his control and certainly he was not going to be able to deliver on this undeliverable promise given his trade war. all of those things are weighing against him. the real question is didn't turn see at some point that people
would notice if he was not able to keep these kinds of promises? you know, he needs -- he has announced that steel plants are reopening that are not reopening, he has announced car plants are opening at something like five different swing states. doesn't he realize that at some point the voters in those places, the people who are not getting those jobs or who are, in fact, losing jobs, won't they realize, hey, this guy has failed to deliver for me. >> do you know what happened after he made those promises? he got elected president of the united states. pretty good deal. i mean, you know, i think the odds that people catch up to him, okay, maybe it happens, but, you know, those promises in michigan, in pennsylvania, in wisconsin -- >> now we have time to evaluate whether they're true. now we have time to -- right? >> that's true, but -- >> it was this fiction that he could paint without having any results. now we have results. >> one of the things that he's doing is blaming the ceo and saying, look, you know, the u.s.
has been very nice to gm and she should reopen these plants and it's on her. >> the greatest myth in politics is people vote their own self interest. they don't. they consistently don't. people vote against their interest, it's very difficult to explain. >> is that true? >> that's very true. look at, you know, people who receive the most amount of federal aid vote for the candidates who want to cut federal aid. this has been going on for generations. i don't think he's completely helpless in the manufacturing. i mean, he put together a tax cut that did nothing to spur capital investment. if you look at the tax cut, there was a study out recently that showed most of that money went to stock buy backs, not to new capital investment. so he pursued a policy of giving a corporate give away which everyone predicted wouldn't spur -- >> gm got a big tax cut. >> and look what they did, they bought back their stock and they didn't invest in their workers.
this is what the democrats were railing about and it's happened. >> and, again, it's not the tax cut in isolation, he also raised taxes in the form of tariffs. tariffs are taxes and he was counting on the fact that this was going to help steal, which it did, but not realizing that there are many more companies, many more industries that buy steel, including auto than actually produce it. >> isn't it also true that unemployment is at a historic low, including in these states. so it's not like at least yet, and, you know, obviously we will see where things go, that, you know, you can say his policies have set off a recession. >> no. >> i mean, terrible unemployment. i mean, look at the unemployment. >> but we also just announced a $2 trillion fiscal stimulus that the first tranche of which went out this year in the form of a tax cut. yes, the economy is doing well, the request he is how much is a sugar high. i'm not forecasting an immediate recession, but there will be a recession at some point, right? i mean, that's just how business cycles work. when we do have a recession
including potentially under trump's watch we are not going to have many bullets left in the gun to deal with it. >> with low unemployment it may be that the workers get absorbed in the economy more quickly. >> there might be a political opportunity for the president to look like he is fighting for them or working for them. we will see how this plays out and some plants may stay open by the time the auto workers negotiate new deals. it isn't a good headline and it's not got for the 15,000 workers who may lose their jobs immediately. what should we talk about now? >> let's go immigration. >> president trump as per usual made claims yesterday that are not true, he claimed border patrol agents are being hurt. we had the border patrol chief on with us yesterday who said, yes, there were incidents of rock throwing, but that none of his -- luckily they were wearing flak gear and none were hurt. the point is something is happening at the border and we all can see it on video and people are storming the border and they're being held at bay,
but nn of that is good optics. then there's tear gas and we do see women and children but mostly men in this group and all of it is not good. so now what? >> well, we've had situations at the border over the years where you have these things. this is different because the president of the united states has staked his political future on creating this and making it more than it is. so we haven't had incidence where we've had to lob tear gas. there were plenty of people there to handle the situation, but he wants the conflict. he wants to create the fear in every american that our country is about to be invaded and taken over by, you know, a small group of people, you know, at the border in mexico and he's doing it. he's doing it. we talk about it every day, we put the pictures on the air and, you know, he wants to create something and i'm afraid of where he wants to escalate it
to. he literally said earlier just before the election that we should treat a rock as something you can answer with a rifle. well, where do we think that's going to go? >> look, we will wait and see how this plays out. yesterday was a relatively calm day after sunday, there was obviously that chaos, yesterday it was calm, maybe it will right itself over the next four days, then the next fight is over wall funding. does the president want to shut down the government for $5 billion for the border wall, is it worth it for him politically during this lame duck session before this big blue wave comes into power at the beginning of january? >> it's hard to think that the democrats particularly in the senate where they can -- they have more than 40 votes, have a lot of incentive to cooperate with him. why should they, you know, cut a deal now unless they get something serious in return like a deal for the dreamers. i mean, president has gone back and forth many times about whether he wants a deal for these young people who were
brought to the united states as children. he hasn't done it yet, he doesn't seem inclined to at the moment, but if he wants his wall he's not going -- he's not going to get it without giving something and the dreamers are an obvious place for a deal. >> okay. joe, catherine, jeffrey, thank you all very much. we have to get to some breaking news right now. we're just getting this into our newsroom. the pentagon has announced three u.s. service members were killed in afghanistan today. officials say they lost their lives after an improvised explosive device detonated. three other service members and an american contractor were also hurt in this incident. the names of the service members killed are being withheld as the defense department notifies their families. we will bring you more information as soon as we have it. >> thousands of americans still in active war zones all around the world. the shocking scenes from the border finally pushed congress to solve some of these immigration issues, that's just one of the questions we put to bernie sanders. that plus his plans for 2020. that's next. share the love event,
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♪ fixed on the border after the confrontation between border patrol agents and hundreds of my grants. president trump is renewing his demand to get funding for the border wall and threatening to shut down the government if he doesn't get it. i sat down with senator bernie sanders from vermont to discuss this and his new book "where we go from here: two years in the resistance." so, senator, you note in your book that you are the son of an immigrant, as you say, who came to this country with limited education and who might have been denied entrance in trump's america.
as we look at what's happening over the border right now in tijuana, 5,000 to 9,000 my grants seeking asylum. do you think they all have a credible claim for asylum? >> i don't, and i think you have to look at it case by case. what is most important is that this country finally is going to have to deal with comprehensive immigration reform. you have close to 2 million under children in this country who were raised in this country who know america as their only whom were in the daca program are scared to death of being deported. the time is long overdue and i hope with democrats now in control over the house we are going to be moving forward to serious comprehensive immigration reform and a path towards citizenship. we do not want to demonize desperate men, women and children while leaving the horror of central america who are looking for asylum. >> would you be supportive of at least listening to an idea of a remain in mexico policy where they could apply for asylum in
the u.s.? >> i'm 100% supportive of comprehensive immigration reform. why we are talking about people at the border, that's form, there was a report that came out last week from 13 government agencies which is dealing with the crisis facing us in terms of climate change and what these agencies are telling us, if we do not get our act together and cut in a significant way carbon emissions, what you're going to be looking at are more wildfires like we have seen in california, you're going to see more rising sea levels, see more drought and more flooding. we have got to address that issue. >> and that was the report, it was released by the trump administration on the friday after thanksgiving. >> reluctantly released by the trump administration. >> maybe on a friday after thanksgiving to minimize the impact it had, but my question for you is with only a democratic house, a republican senate and a republican president, what legislation, what do you want to see politicians in washington do
practically now? >> you're using the word practically. do you know what the intergovernmental panel on climate change said? they said if we don't get our act together within 12 years, 12 years, not a long period of time there's going to be irreparable harm to this planet. the american people have to stand up and say for the sake of their children and grandchildren we are going to have to take on the greed of the fossil fuel industry who consider the profits more than what my grandchildren will have. >> you have to convince republicans. >> no, i have to convince the american people to convince republicans. we have an international crisis, we have to work with other countries around the world. when we do that we're going to create millions of jobs through increasing energy efficiency and moving toward wind, solar and other sustainable energy. look, here is the point, the scientists have told us despite
trump's absurd thought that this is a hoax that the future of the planet is at stake. okay? not a debatable issue to my mind. so we have got to have the courage to take on the greed of the fossil fuel industry. by the way, if the house can send us a serious bill i think you will be surprised at the number of republicans who will not choose to be voting against that. >> you brought up the president there. in your book you note sitting at the inauguration listening to his inaugural address and you noted it made you remark to yourself on what a phoney and demagogue he is. let me read you a paske a. other than his racism and xenophobia it's not clear that he really has any strong beliefs other than those that are politically expedient. >> did i say that? >> you wrote that. >> it sounds good to me. i think it's right. >> what did you mean? >> look, he has no political belief. he is a tony phoney and political opportunist. he now condemns legislation that i introduced called medicare for all. earlier in his life he supported
medicare for all. this guy supported a tax on wealth. he was pro choice. but he moves with the wind and right now he is in an extreme right winger because he thinks that's how you get votes. wat he is doing which disturbs me very much above and beyond tax breaks for billionaires, above and beyond trying to throw 32 million people off of health insurance all of which he is doing, he is doing what no president in modern history has done in trying to divide the american people up based on the color of our skin or country we came from or religion or sexual orientation. that is outrageous. what that book is about is what i and other progressives have been doing over the last two years to bring people together. not only in opposition to trump, but to create an agenda that makes sense to farmers in iowa and in nebraska, where we are coming together around ideas that work for all of us. what does that mean? we are the only major country on earth not to guarantee healthcare to all people.
poll after poll shows the american people want a medicare for all single payer system. we've got millions of people in this country working for starvation wages, we have to raise the minimum wage to a living wage. we have to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. we have to make public colleges and universities tuition free and instead of giving tax breaks to billionaires do you know what the american people want? they think billionaires and large corporations should start paying their fair share. >> this is how you think you beat president trump? >> this is how i think democrats move forward in bringing the american people together and creating an economy and a government that works for all of us, not just the 1%. >> i want to ask you about running for president but i don't want to ask you the same question everyone already asked. >> good. >> are you running, are you running. >> thank you. >> do you know the answer to that question? >> as of this moment, no. running for president is not a simple decision. you don't say, hey, i'm going to run for president. you have to communicate with people all over the country, i've got to know that the issues that i feel strongly about,
inequality, a corrupt campaign finance system, the fact that a middle class continues to sli shrink, the greed of wall street and the pharmaceutical industry who rip us off every day, are those resonating with the american people? and i'm not quite sure. i think they do, but, you know, we've got a little bit more work to do. >> so you don't know? >> at this point, no. we just came from an election where people turned on their tv and all they saw was tv ads. the media pushes this a little bit more. the american people do not want never ending campaigns. i think we give the american people a time to catch their breath and focus not on individuals, focus on the issues. why are we the only major country on earth not to guarantee healthcare to all people? why are our people charged the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs? what are we going to do about the crisis of climate change? let's talk about that. >> senator bernie sanders
independent from vermont, we've already taken up too much of your time. let me just say the book bernie sanders, "where we go from here: two years in the resistance." thank you. >> thank you very much. okay. as you know there has been a startling rise in anti-semitic acts across the country. what is behind this? part one of a cnn series, the state of hate, is next.
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cnn is taking a closer look at the state of hate in america this week. specifically what is fueling the alarming rise of crimes against jews and other minorities in this country and around the world. in our first installment cnn's sara sidner spoke with people who have endured vicious anti-semitic attacks including a survivor of the pittsburgh
synagogue massacre. >> i'm not just concerned about the rise of anti-semitism, i'm concerned about the rise of hate in our country. >> reporter: a quiet saturday morning of prayer and reflection at a synagogue in pittsburgh. savagely interrupted by gunfire. ant anti-semitism had blasted its way back into america's consciousness. >> four down in the atrium. >> reporter: barry warber was praying when bullets started flying. he hid in a closet as the gunman mowed down 11 of his fellow worshippers. >> what is it like being a survivor? >> sometimes i just feel dead inside, no feeling at all. i hate that feeling, but it's there. >> how many of your friends have you had to bury? >> too many to count. >> reporter: kfs the deadliest
anti-semitic attack in american history, the person fiction of a rising state of hate in this country. the anti-defamation league says anti-semitism in america was already exploding from neo nazi marches to more subtle propaganda. in 2017 the adl logged nearly 2,000 anti-semitic incidents, a 57% spike in just one year. >> that's the single largest surge we have ever seen since we started tracking this data. >> reporter: the fbi, which only counts hate crimes reported by police, saw an astonishing 37% rise in anti-semitic crimes. police in pittsburgh say the gunman's anti-semitic fervor was spelled out on social media, one site in particular that attacks racists and neo-nazis because of its loose policies on free speech. experts say those sites have become echo chambers that are getting louder and helping mow straight real-life attacks.
the anger and misguided ideology of neo-nazis which has been permeating the dark corners of the internet now materializing on street corners and being scrawled across the american landscape. swastikas on a temple in indiana, a school in colorado, a school bus in florida, on political signs in california and on street signs in nevada. words of hate on a temple in california. >> what was spelled out here? >> expletive, f you, jews, expletive again in red spray paint. >> reporter: and anti-semitism expressed but bullet holes in a temple in indiana, cars set ablaze at a cultural center in tennessee and across the country posters are popping up on college campuses meant to instill nazi ideals in young minds. even the dead are targets. at 92 years old this man knows
the pain of loss. >> this was the love of my life. >> reporter: but he has never personally experienced anti-submitism until this year when 175 tomb stones at a jewish cemetery in philadelphia were desecrate. >> my mother's stone was knocked over and it was really very upsetting. i said, how could this happen in america today? >> reporter: for the victims of anti-semitism the question is why has it returned with such a vengeance? >> anti-semitism is nothing new. what is new is, number one, the public conversation, the charged atmosphere, the incredibly polarized phenomenon in our society today. >> reporter: experts say charlottesville, virginia, last year was a turning point. the moment the growing rise in racism and anti-semitism went public. hundreds of white nationalists, neo-nazis and clans men took to the streets protesting the decision to remove a confederate statue.
it was one of several protests last year, but this was different. it began with a torch lit march on friday night. that turned into a violent confrontation the next morning between white nationalists and counterprotesters. in the end police say a man with neo nazi ideals killed 32-year-old heather hyer. those who monitor neo-nazis say the aftermath may have encouraged the movement. >> but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. >> reporter: especially because the president's lack of a completion condemnation of what happened was cheered by white nationalists. >> show me a good neo nazi and show me a good ku klux klanman. i mean, it isn't there. >> instead of saying there's wrong on both sides, how are we wrong? what were we doing wrong?
except praying. that can't be wrong. >> reporter: barry likens that kind of thinking to hitlerism. he is well aware of the torture that regime vetted out on a family member. >> he was used by the german scientists for experiments. they had literally cut the muscles out of his arms to see if they would regrow and he had to live with that. thank god i never had to go through that. >> reporter: jews have a saying about the holocaust, never again. after what he has been through, werber is terrified it really could happen again. now, when it comes to what happened in pittsburgh donald trump did fully condemn what happened there and anti-semitism and for some jews, though, it was too little, too late. others we spoke with including a rabbi here in california says he doesn't at all blame donald trump for the rise in anti-semitism, in fact, he feels
donald trump supports the jewish people because he's such a strong supporter of israel, but one thing that everyone we spoke to agreed upon and that is that the heightened political rhetoric in this country is dividing us. john, alisyn. >> thanks to sara sidner on that and the work she has done on this subject which has been remarkable. well over a year now for her. i'm so struck by what that synagogue survivor said, what were we doing wrong, praying. >> rabbi meyer has talked about the political rhetoric and how it does have an effect, obviously a corrosive effect on people's hearts and does lead to horrible actions. this is a moment that cries out for leadership in terms of talking all the time about our bond and our similarities instead of what divides us. >> we focused on this subject all week. the fbi taking action after the parkland massacre. what the bureau is going to do now to better handle tips. the zip code you're born into can determine your future. your school.
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my name is mike, i'm in product development at comcast. we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. the fbi is overhauling its public tip line system. this comes after the february massacre at marjory stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. the pure row mishandled two tips about the confessed gunman well before the attack. our jessica snyder live in washington with more. i remember getting the news that the fbi had been warned about this killer, final now now taking action. >> the fbi has been working on the revamped tip line ever since that mass shooting happened eight months ago and since they revealed they had missed this crucial tip. the fbi saying they will be adding more staff to this tip line, 62 in all, that will
include 12 supervisory special agent positions, 50 staff positions, all of these new positions to analyze the calls as they come in. there will be a two-tier intake system to make sure that the calls are separated and that the important calls get that urgent attention. in addition all the staff will get an enhanced training, they will know what to be on the lookout for and interestingly here, the fbi is adding new technology. they're going to create a digital transcript of the calls that will then be used to identify key threat words. they will analyze those as well. this is a huge overhaul for this nationwide tip line, all after the fbi admitted that it failed to act on a tip one month before the mass shooting. the fbi explained that a woman had called in to say she thought the gunman was going to explode in her words. she said she also feared the gunman getting into the school and then shooting the place up. so the fbi disclosed this and they said the fbi staffer she got that tip, she discussed the
tip with her supervisor and they both decided that there was no imminent threat and this case was closed within two hours. but of course just one month later that's when the mass shooting happened. 17 people killed. so, john and alisyn, this new system is really designed to make sure that a similar oversight like this at this tip line doesn't happen again. guys? >> yeah, i mean, jessica, it is heartening now that the fbi is going to these lengths and that they're going to try to be proactive instead of reactive which is what this requires. thank you very much. so president trump does not believe climate change is happening. first the trump administration tried to bury the government's climate change report by releasing it the day after the thanksgiving holiday, now some are going after the scientists who wrote the report in a particularly fact-free way. john avalon has our reality check. >> look, despite the trump administration's best efforts, it seems that people noticed the government report released on
black friday telling them that climate change is likely to make this year's wildfires and flooding the new normal. when you've got 97% of climate scientists agreeing that warming trends we're seeing are man made and getting worse, it's almost interesting to hear all the partisan push back against what really shouldn't be a partisan issue at all. but when you can't contest the message, some folks go after the messenger. take a look. >> look, if there was no climate change we would have a lot of scientists looking for work. the reality is that a lot of these scientists are i have been doctor by the money that they receive. >> which sounds suspiciously like this. >> the report is nothing more than a rehash of age old 10 to 20 years assumptions made by scientists that get paid to further the politics of global warming. >> now, that talking point you're hearing in both clips is a classic bit of distraction and deflection designed to mud kree the waters just enough to confuse the clear consensus.
one of the science ittists who worked on the climate change report confirms she and her colleagues were paid, quote, zero dollars for their work and could easily make ten times their salaries by working for something like big oil. it turns out that this idea that climate change scientists are rolling in the dough is so pervasive had it to have it's own yale study debunking. the another thing we heard that the report is based on the most extreme and unlikely scenarios. not true. the scientist said she considered all scenarios from those where we go carbon negative at the end of the century to where carbon emissions to rise. demonstrably false has rarely stopped president trump's reality distortion field. yesterday he said he doesn't believe his own government's report. and then he said this. >> i want clean air, i want clean water, very important. >> clean air, clean water.
i'm sure this is sincere, but president trump should call his office because his administration keeps proposing plans to roll back regulations designed to keep our air and water clean. everything from rolling back regulations on toxic air pollution to reducing auto emission standards to disbanding the epa's pollution science panel to dismantling the clean power plant to expanding offshore drilling to threatening the anti-pollution waters of the united states rule which he called, quote, horrible. horrible. look, as trump fans sometimes say don't listen to what he says, look at what he does, and that's good advice at least when it comes to the environment. and that's your reality check. >> john, very helpful. because sometimes when the president of the united states speaks in unequivocal terms people believe him and it takes more energy to do research and show what's really happening and we appreciate you doing that. >> kpa exactly doesn't the president believe? that was a sweeping statement, a 1,000 page report. tell us exactly what you don't
believe in that report and where the government -- your government -- went wrong. that would require facts. thanks so much, john. >> thank you. up next, cnn exclusively silts down with the head of uber to talk about trust. >> you guys have said trust us for a while and i think a lot of people don't have that trust. >> i think it's fair to say trust but verify. >> the new responsibility that he says silicon valley must take. next.
the ceo of uber is trying to move the company forward after a series of scandals. we sat down for an exclusive interview to talk about the company's future and a little bit of politics. great to have you here. >> she loves being awake in the morning. you can tell. >> i do. i do. i love being here with you guys. i love sitting down with a lot of these silicon valley executives and having the hard conversations because right now every one of us is wondering about tech's impact. a fascinating company, uber. he brought in a new leader. he said to me he knows quite a bit about reinvention. he said it is changing how he wants to do business at uber. >> at one point the fbi came to your door and said your family was going to be deported. how does that shape you as a leader now, especially in this political environment? >> my mom did a great job of
protecting us from those issues. but for me, it has created a true thankfulness for what we have here in the u.s. because we were truly lucky to come to this country during a time when immigrants were welcome. i understand what it's like to be different. and i understand what a prize we have here as american citizens. >> you said the american dream is the greatest brand on earth. do you think that brand is being tarnished? >> i think it is at this point. i think we have always been seen within the international community of a country, an immigrant nation that was welcoming, that created the opportunity for success for anyone and everyone regardless of background. and, you know, this is a personal opinion, but i think the direction we're going in a little bit is unfortunate. >> can you give me anything specific about how you as a leader have kind of changed in
this new era. >> it is an area makes me uncomfortable. a ceo taking his or her personal beliefs and translating them into the actions of a company because in the end i'm here to build this company and serve our constituencies, our drivers, our riders, our customers and investo investors. why should i let my personal feelings get in the way of the company? many of our drivers are immigrants that have come to this nation. it is part of the agenda of this company to provide an environment of success for them. you know, this public-private borders are blurring. we have to figure out how to change. >> i'm looking at the last couple years and thinking, oh, my god. because this idea of are you making the world better. i think the world are genuinely
questioning if silicon valley is doing the best for the people. >> i think it is fair to say trust or verify. our platform is a transportation platform. facebook is a dig cal platform, et cetera. i think the hypothesis in the past was, well,' we are building a platform and we're not responsible for what they do on the platform because we don't want to be is sensor. but these platforms can create super powers. if you communicate something in the old world, you can get it to five people. these platforms allow you to communicate to a million. and that realization as created, i think, now the responsibility. >> i think you are seeing that shift in mindset in silicone valley. we are responsible for the content that goes on the platform, whether it's uber, whether it is facebook. >> user had a whole bunch of
controversy. >> there was a high profile case of sexism against uber. that's when they ended up pushing out the old ceo and bringing him in. this causes huge waves in silicon valley, women saying this is an issue of speaking about it. i asked him what we're not allowed to say about the women's movement and sexism? >> he said people are really afraid to make mistakes. they're going to say stupid things. if people need to be able to make some of these mistakes, have these awkward conversations and have open discourse about it because i have been to the silicon valley circles. i have been to the dinner tables where you have someone say i'm scared to meet with a woman past a certain hour. she's not worth my career. that's a real problem and people aren't talking about. that's something we wants to start talking about. >> you are certainly asking all of the best interviews and all
of the exclusives. thanks so much for sharing it with us. this is part of lori's new series. she sits down with the most influential leaders in silicon valley that share their thoughts on where silicon valley is headed. the late night comics tackled donald trump. here are your late night laughs. >> today trump threatened to permanently shut down the entire u.s.-mexico border. migrants said, relax, man. we're just trying to get to canada. >> there are some people who said they don't agree with the immigrants coming to the country, but i still think shooting them with tier gas is extreme. if you watched fox news, you will see one man's tear gas is another man's condiments. >> it is literally water,
pepper, with a small amount of alcohol for evaporation purposes. it is natural. you can actually put it on your nachos and eat it. he makes it sound like it is a scam for immigrants to get free spice. it's like, oh, man. this food is so bland. let's cross the border, man. >> leave it to america to release a report about saving the planet on 2016 pieces of paper single sided. >> funny. >> well done. no, i have to say the joke about pepper spray, one of them is a late night comic. one of them is on fox news. where is the line? >> right. impossible to know. we're following a major development in the mueller probe. and polls are open in the special mississippi election. "new day" has it covered. >> the fact that mueller's
office blew this up suggests they may have a pretty good reason for thinking he's lying. >> that's why we have courts. >> if he's lying, there is something very big he's trying to hide. >> there are women and children out there using tear gas does not seem justified. >> this whole thing is going out of control unnecessarily. >> i said this country has done a lot for general motors. you better get back in there soon. >> getting screwed by a company that got one of his huge tax cuts. >> this is the reward they get. >> this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> welcome to your new day. it is tuesday, november 27th, 8:00 in the east. special counsel robert mueller's team accuses president trump's former campaign chairman of breaching his plea agreement.
prosecutors say manafort repe repeatedly lied to them after he pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate in their investigation of russian interference in the 2016 election. special counsel's office says that manafort's lies relieved them of any promises they made to manafort. manafort says he has provided, quote, truthful information. so both sides are calling on a judge to resolve this and sentence manafort immediately. meantime, the polls are now open in mississippi. president trump was in mississippi campaigning last night to help hyde-smith. at the same time he was losing more ground in the house. a net gain of 40 seats for the democrats is well within reach. joining us now, jeff mcintosh, jeffrey toobin. i want to start with the paul manafort news. paul manafort had a path to a