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denying ever meeting julian assange following a blockbuster report he had met with the wikileaks founder at least three times in previous years. let's discuss now. gentlemen, good evening. thanks for joining us. so renato, what's your reaction to manafort sharing information from mueller with trump's legal team? >> >> i'm absolutely shocked. it's something that i have never heard of or seen in my time. both as a prosecutor and a defense attorney. so i was a prosecutor for almost a decade. i've been a defense attorney on the other side. i have never heard of somebody flipping, in other words, being on the government side in a case, cooperating against everybody the government asks and then sharing information with other people who are under investigation about what the prosecution is doing. it's highly up ethical. and i think the communications between trump's team and manafort's team are not
privileged. those are communications that mueller could obtain. >> was he essentially the president's spy. >> it seems so based upon is the reporting that we've seen. essentially what he was doing, was getting information from mueller's team when they were asked him questions and assuming that they were assuming because that's what manafort said and what him and his lawyer agreed that they were on the government's team and that they were agreeing to cooperate and assist mueller in any way and then they were taking that information and providing it to one of the people that he was investigating, and knowing full well that will trump and his team would spread it to others. it's completely unethical and could potentially become part of an obstruction of justice case we might see down the line. >> josh, the fact that manafort would lie to mueller, report back to trump, does this mean his ultimate goal was a presidential pardon? >> of yeah, i certainly think so. this whole think is stupefying.
those of us on the outside looking in, we thought this group was going to come in and drain the swamp. i think we still see the glistening sheechb pond scum here. every single day there's malfeasance coming at us left and right. this is another example. to have this person essentially reporting back on what is taking place within the government signals something highly ethical. i think that is the ultimate goal. i talked to a lot of people in my former business in national security all along the goal was for manafort to obtain a pardon. i was in court during his trial. he didn't appear to be a man concerned about anything. you saw some of his actions i think at the end of the day, if the end goal was a pardon, this was something he had to get through. to hear he was gathering information and reporting it back to the white house shows you the endearing himself to the president with the ultimate you goal of getting that stroke with
the pen. >> your response to the guardian report that's right paul manafort met with wikileaks founder julian assange multiple times during the 2016 campaign. you say if true, this is a bombshell. why? >> we don't know that's true. that's some of the reporting we've seen. if it is true, that signals this idea of collusion wasn't just some fantasy because there would be no reason other than collusion for paul manafort to be meeting with julian assange or his associates. it all came back to the hillary clinton e-mails, dnc e-mails, podesta's e-mails. these were the people pushing them out on behalf of those who stole them. if he was in communication and involved with that team, then it is a bombshell. one last thing on that point, this shows you the importance of having a good reputation. now, if someone were to say that you or me or reb nat toe were out doing these kind of things and all this activity, people would say no, that's not those
kind of people. when i heard this from paul manafort, my first reaction was i can see that. these were people in the president's orbit that be had access to him and possibly would have had high level jobs in government had he stayed on and not been arrested. it shows you that level of malfeasance that surrounds this group. it's very concerning. > he's denying it meaning manafort. he's denying it strongly through his lawyers that he ever met with assange. but if it's proven that he did, what would that mean to the investigation? >> well, it would take mueller somewhere down the path of beak able to prove that there was an involvement in a conspiracy to hack the servers in the united states that contained those democratic e-mails and to use and distribute those. so ultimately what, mueller would be trying to problem there would be you know, there's a hacking of u.s. server that was, of course, a federal crime. and then some u.s. individuals
were participating in that conspiracy. just to be clear, merely knowing that those e-mails were going to be hacked, merely knowing that they were going to be distributed on wikileaks is not a crime. but it certainly begs the question, criminals do not usually tip off people who aren't involved in the scheme about what they're going to do or what they're in the midst of doing. why the heck is julian assange talking to paul manafort on that topic or people talking to roger stone and jerome corsi which we've also alerted about today. that is very hard to explain for those people. if i were them, i would exercise my right to remain silent on that question. >> renato, i have something else for you. this is trump former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski. chris asked him about this report. here it is. >> do you think if he had met with assange back in march right
before he got made campaign chairman, that you would have heard something about it or did he keep to himself in a way that you can't say he would have disclosed it. >> i wouldn't have heard about it. paul did a lot of meetings i had no knowledge of whatsoever. he didn't work out of the campaign office. >> renato, it's not exactly a denial, is it? >> no, absolutely not. and we also heard today rudy giuliani on behalf of the president said that trump cannot recall having conversations about wikileaks with roger stone or jerome corsi. he's not flatly denying it. he's not saying he didn't have those conversations, just he doesn't recall. we've got lune dowcy saying manafort was doing things on his own. whenever somebody -- there's proof they're involved in criminal activity, suddenly those people appear to be hermits and they're not talking to anyone, no one knows anything about those people. at the time it, manafort was the
chair of donald trump's campaign. he was a very important person connected to everyone. >> the former fbi director, james comey, who is now a witness in the mule ter investigation weighed in today on the acting attorney general matt whitaker. josh, he want you to listen to this. >> to what extent do you think he can derail the special investigation? >> i think it's a worry but to my mind, not a serious worry. he may not be the sharpest knife in our drawer but he can see his future and knows if he acted in an extra legal way, he will go down in history for the wrong reasons. i'm sure he doesn't want that. >> he worked closely with comey. is he right. >> i won't excellent on his intelligence. i think his general point is correct. should he act now, representative swalwell was talking about him as the assassin to take the legs out from under mueller and make this go away, if they were to act in
that matter and do this for the president, not only would he go down in history in a bad way but possibly face additional consequences with this new democratic majority in the house of representatives coming in and being able to to go after what discussions were under way. i think he knows he's now boxed in. if his goal was to make this go away, it's gotten a lot harder. >> matt whitaker has slammed the mueller investigation multiple times. a lot of people say that's why he is the acting ag. do you think he's concerned how history will remember him? >> i hope for the sake of this country that he is. really, i can't read mr. whitaker's mind. he may be more concerned about how people who are trump supporters view him, how the folks who watch fox news view him and if that's the case, if he's concerned about you know, having a book tour and being on fox and friends when this is
done, he could have a very different perspective. let's hope for our nation that he's concerned how history will regard him because he is the acing attorney general at least at this moment. and there is no question that history will judge his actions one way or the other. >> well, since you put it that way, not so much. thank you. remember, he wanted to be on national tv. he wanted to come on cnn because he wanted to get the president's attention according to someone on this be show with him in the green room. that's what he reportedly said to the guest on with him. thank you. president doubling down on his defense of the saudi crown prince, ignoring his own cia's conclusion that mohammad bin salman personally ordered the assassination of jamal khashoggi. fareed zakhar ra weighs in next. . i'd make it available in dozens, make that thousands of configurations. it would keep an eye on my fleet.
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khashoggi was murdered by saudi agents on orders of the crown prince mohammad bin salman. president in an interview claiming that assessment is not definitive. i want to talk about this with fareed zakaria, the host of "fareed zakaria gps." geb tonight, president trump brushing off the cia's assessment of the saudi crown prince that he ordered the assassination. >> this is what he told "the post," maybe he did, maybe he didn't but he denies it and people around him deny it. the cia did not say affirmatively he did it either by the way. i'm not saying that they're saying he didn't do it. but they didn't say it affirmatively. >> we'll let grammarians figure it out. >> it's hard to read. it's incredible to hear that from the president of the united states. >> what's sad about it, i don't understand why the president is you know on his knees withed saudi royal family. it's perfectly understandable
and americans are adults. if you were to say look, this was a terrible thing, you know, we have to hold them accountable. here's what we're going to do. but we're not going to destroy the relationship. we've got a serious strategic relationship with saudi arabia. for some reason, he wants to buy the saudi cover-up for some reason, he wants to affirm the saudi cover-up. for some reason, he wants to participate in the saudi cover-up. for a president of the united states, that's demeaning. larger question, of course, is why are we subcontracting u.s. foreign policy in the middle east to saudi arabia? leave the khashoggi mat area side. why have we supported a saudi war in yemen that has now created the worst humanitarian crisis in the world, a million and a half people are on the search of famine. you go to yemen. there's a brilliant "new york times" report out of yemen. you go to yemen.
they believe this is an american war against them because they look at the bombs, they're made in america. the planes are made in america. they look at the intelligence comes from america. logistics comes from america. we're being impliindicated in this war that are most americans don't even know we're participating in. while? what will american interests does it -- what american interests does it help in the saudis kidnapped the prime minister of lebanon and tried to shake him down. that they blockaded qatar. these are all saudi goals. why is the u.s. implicated in them? >> that's a good question because is anyone that ignorant of what's going on, especially the leader of the free world? is it just that he didn't really care? >> there are a whole bunch of theories. one of them is there's some -- is there some reason why donald trump is being so nice to the saudis. i mean, it is not -- there are people who have speculated the gulf arabs provide an enormous
amount of the investment capital for real estate. who the hell knows whether it's it. as with russia, there is a puzzling pattern where you say, why do this? this is not in america's interests. why are we getting implicated in the middle of a very complex middle east situation consistently on the side of a very dangerous saudi foreign policy that has not succeeded anywhere. >> but the very weak response, my grandmother come se, come sa, maybe this, maybe that. that's beak what he's say. it seems like a "uss president should be more definitive. so obviously, he's like i really don't -- basically what he's saying is i don't give a crap. >> there's also a level of a lack of sort of seriousness to the foreign policy. if you look at george bush senior,osis president during tiananmen square when the chinese cracked down on student
and pro democracy demonstrators. the bush administration did hold the chinese accountable, did impose sanctions did, suspend important relationships. a couple months later, they sent is the national security advisor to beijing and said look, we regard the relationship as too important. we want to restart it but we can't pretend you didn't do what you did. that seems to be an adult serious way to have this. why are we participating in a saudi cover-up? why can't we say what is plain for the world to see with regard to this particular case and say, that doesn't mean we have to upend the whole relationship. >> that is the big question. the unanswerable question i believe. so jaw dropping moment today. were you watching john bolton livele? >> i saw that. >> i didn't even listen to it. >> i don't speak arabic. >> i mean, what kind of answer is that? >> you do have to say to yourself if you're national security adviser and you're only going to listen to the
intelligence that comes to you in english, you're going to have a very limited. >> you're in big trouble. >> in a sense that doesn't matter. franklin roosevelt he probably didn't hear the japanese saying tora tora tora when they bombed pearl harbor. the point is, the policy. year has american policy become captive to saudi foreign policy? it should be is the other way around. when trump keeps talking about how it's important for us to keep the saudis happy, he gets it fundamentally wrong. it is important for the saudis to keep america happy we are the big brother in this relationship. we are the ones who are protecting this regime. we're the ones that support -- the saudis after 75 years of buying american military hardware cannot turn around and on a dime say oh, we're just going to get russian stuff from now on. it doesn't work like that. it's not like getting an iphone and getting a android. this is a much more complicated
deal. it seems trump doesn't understand he's the guy with leverage, not the saudis. >> let's talk about climate change. the president telling "the washington post" one of the problems that a lot of people like myself, we have very high levels of intelligence but we're not necessarily such believers. then he added this, as to whether or not it's manmade and whether or not the effects that you're talking about are there, i don't see it. people are high level intelligence, don't they accept their own administration's report about climate change and experts and hundreds of scientists and the statistic community? >> this is in some ways the most troubling shift that's taken place in the republican party under trump. people forgetting in 2008, john mccain ran as a republican as the presidential nominee of the republican party in favor of a
cap and trade, in favor of a carbon tax, in favor of massive subsidies for renewable energy. this was the republican position. ronald reagan enacted policies to help the environment with regard to the ozone layer. george h.w. bush was much more green than any republican is today. if you think about republican governors like christine todd whitman who later become the epa administrator, the republican party has had a long tradition of environmental activism. what we now have is people who are saying two plus two is equal to six. it is really denying basic science. and you wonder to yourself, do you take that approach with other stuff? when you're ill, do you decide you're not going to trust the experts, you're going to go to your local witch doctor? no, you trust the experts. why on this issue do they get to pick and choose? this is the fundamental issue facing the planet. and on that issue, they say no,
we don't trust -- who knows about the science. the next time you have to get an operation, i'd like to hear you dispute the views of the three surgeons who tell you you need an operation. >> the next time you're it out oth advances of nasa being able to send a rover to the moon, i mean to mars, right? that's science. >> and it's the same science, by the way. you know? it's not like that's a different science. climate science is not some kind of vudu stuff that left wingers are doing. this is two plus two. >> you have the special, the special called "presidents under fire, the history of impeachment it." you dug into -- you say impeachment has becheapened ove the last years. >> impeachment over the course of american history was something viewed as a kind of nuclear option. this was the thing you did. in any democracy what you want to do is change governments when you don't like them, when you
think the president is doing a terrible job by voting him or her out of office. impeachment was meant to be the thing you reserve for the really special, the rare case. >> as they call it the nuclear option. >> in a sense like the nixon case. the nixon case is a textbook example of impeachment working. over the last 20 years, we have had massive sustained calls for the impeachment of everybody. it was true for george w. bush. it was true for obama. bush and obama both ended their presidencies with 33% of the american public calling for their impeachments. some large number i think in that range called for the impeachment of hillary clinton she wasn't even president. >> well, in some places she is president. she's president in people's minds. >> you have it with trump. the danger of this kind of rhetoric is we now have the case where you really do want a serious analysis of what exactly the charges are, what is the
evidence. but it has become the sort of the tool that will everybody uses just you know, instinctively. what we decided to do was go back to the history, to the founding, look at the nixon and clinton case which are fascinating examples, two very different cases of how impeachment worked. what lessons can you draw from it. >> you got what i meant. if you watch some networks you would think hillary clinton is president. >> absolutely. she's still being attacked. people still talk about locking her up. it's only one step from there to impeachment. >> impeach her. thank you, fareed. always a pleb. cnn's special report, presidents under fire, the history of impeachment sunday night at 9:00 eastern. democrats looking to block one of the president's judicial nominees from the bench. we're going to tell tul who thomas farr is and why the naacp
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the lead lawyer for former senator jesse helms election campaign. in that campaign, and the department of justice filed a complaint against the helms campaign and the north carolina republican party for sending over 100,000 postcards largely targeting black voters. is the doj said the intent of the postcards was to suggest black voters were not eligible and to discourage them from going to the polls. farr denies knowledge of the postcards saying he attended a meeting about ballot security. he worked on defending a 2013 voter i.d. law which included a controversial provision requiring residents to show i.d. before they could cast a ballot and eliminated same day registration and voting on sundays where block votes are show up to polls in significantly greater naunz white ones. in its rule, one confident federal appeals judges said there, the general assembly enacted legislation that restricted voting in five
different ways disproportiona disproportionately take theed african-americans. after a federal judge struck down the 2011 map as a racial gerrymander, they passed another map with many of the same districts in place. they argue this had time lawmakers were motivated by politics and not race. farr was hired by the north carolina republican party to defend those proposed boundaries. so i want to discuss now. joining me is congress man g.k. butterfield from north carolina, the former chairman of the congressional black caucus. so good to have you on. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, don. good evening. >> all 49 democratic senators the naacp and congressional black caucus oppose the nomination. why do you think president trump nominated him? >> in north carolina we have three federal judicial districts, eastern middle and western districts. eastern district has never had an african-american judge in its history nor has the western district.
during the obama years we tried to persuade president obama to appoint an african-american to the federal bench. he did everything within his power to integrate the court. each time he would nominate an african-american, it was blocked by the republicans in the united states senate. and, of course, after obama's second term, then president trump came along and instead of nominating an african-american to the position, chose to nominate thomas farr, probably the worst choice he could make in the state of north carolina. thomas farr has been divisive and led the charge on behalf of the republicans to set us back in voting rights and disenfranchising after american voters, the worst choice trump could choice. >> the naacp called him the voter suppressor in chief. he said farr stands out for his decades long crusade to disenfranchise black voters.
he helped turn north carolina into ground zero for voter suppression. his nomination is a travesty. his confirmation would be here sa heracy. >> he was part of the effort to disenfranchise african-american voters when helms was challenged by harvey gantt in the senate race of 1990. they sent out 125,000 postcards targeting african-american voters suggesting that they could be breasted when they came to the polls. it was challenged. i remember it so well and they reached a consent decree in the helms campaign suspended any further postcard deliveries. thomas farr has been involved in voter disenfranchisement for years. he has represented the north carolina legislature. he's gone in court and defended voter i.d. and the
discriminatorily election systems and district maps drawn. he is the worst choice that president trump could have chosen for the federal district court. >> it certainly seems to be a thing in in the south with voter suppression. it played a role in both governors races in florida and georgia as well as ugly racist robocalls both democratic candidates andrew gillum and stacey abrams issued a statement on farr. they say we call on all u.s. senators who put democracy above party loyalty to reject this nomination and deny thomas farr the platform to continue his crusade against voting rights. what's the message, representative, to african-americansful farr takes there seat? >> we have been asking for years to integrate the eastern district in north carolina. the public depends on a fair judiciary. to have an all white judiciary in the eastern district of north carolina is unfair to the voters and to the administration of justice.
we are calling on the united states senate slulg to reject thomas farr and let's just start over. let's wait for this congress to expire, come back into the 116th congress and let's find a consensus candidate, someone who can be fair and impartial and who does not bring the baggage that thomas farr brings to this process. >> let's talk about someone now who played such a big role in the confirmation of brett kavanaugh because manu raju is reporting is senator susan collins says she will likely vote in favor of farr. but senator tim scott of south carolina isn't on board. senator jeff flake says he will decide on the merits. how do you see this playing out? >> well, all of the democrats in the united states senate are united in opposition to thomas farr. we believe senator flake is going to be voting no, and hopefully we can get senator scott or one of the other republican senators who really understands the importance of the judiciary to vote against this nomination.
we need to start over. we need to wait until next year. let all of the senators settle down and find a consensus judge for north carolina and not try to ramrod thomas farr through at the last moment before the session expires. >> representative butterfield, thank you for your time. >> thank you. bill and hillary clinton kicking off their big speaking tour tonight. and hillary clinton took a shot at president trump's claim his gut tells him more than anybody else's brain. you're going to want to hear this. ♪ spread a little love today ♪ spread a little love my-y way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪ philadelphia cream cheese. made with fresh milk and real cream makes your recipes their holiday favourites. the holidays are made with philly.
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the form of a big speaking tour in cities across the u.s. and canada. it's called "an evening with president bill clinton and former secretary of state hillary rodham clinton." and tonight they're in toronto. so is our suzanne malveaux. suzanne, good evening to you. so, what do the former first couple have to say about the current president. >> reporter: sure. it was fascinating actually. this is the first stop of the bill and hillary show, if you will, toronto being the first of 13 cities across north america. essentially it's being promoted by live nation. they normally handle these big music superstars like beyonce and justin timberlake. it was billed as an evening that was going to provide something fresh, something new and intimate here. there are a lot of skeptics, don, i talked to earlier. democratic allies essentially who say they want bill and hilary to go away. but we did see in this crowd an
enthusiastic crowd there's very much an appetite for the clintons. it started off and there weren't any zingers if you will, there was no real controversial questions. it really was a lot of policy kind of wonky things. there are also a lot of zingers when it came to trump. a lot of criticism for both bill and hillary clinton clinton. the first thing out of the gate was the elephant in the room that was addressed. people wondering if this was a tee up for hillary clinton going for 2020. here's how she responded don. >> you're on a 138 oil city tour. the two of you, president clinton. madame secretary. is that because you guys just want to hang out together? or is it because you're testing the waters for a run at being president of the united states? >> well, actually, frank, i'm thinking about standing for parliament here.
>> don, it was notable that just over the midterms neither one of the clintons was called really to participate and campaign for a lot of the democrats who were trying to paint a fresh face for the party and are hoping that the clintons take a back seat. so there is kind of this struggle seeing them re-emerge now and what that means. both clintons really stressed a real emphasis, criticizing the trump administration for pulling out of the agreements, the iran be nuclear deal, the paris, a great deal of frustration. also quite a startling accusation from the former first lady, hillary clinton about how trump has denied or refused to believe that the crown prince, saudi crown prince had anything to do with the killing of the journalist jamal khashoggi. here's what she said this
evening about that. >> we have a president who is part of the cover-up as to what happened in that could be sue lat or embassy when mr. khashoggi was murdered. and we have a president and those closest to him who have their own personal commercial interests. >>. >> reporter: so don, not only did she accuse the president but also the family of really having those ties with the saudis and being one of the reasons that they would not hold the crown prince responsible. we also heard from bill clinton today very frustrated about climate change and saying how this was -- didn't make any sense that the president didn't believe the scientists and wasn't willing to believe the skin scientists. both of them taking quite a sharp aim at this administration and also hoping to move their party in a forward direction.
>> suzanne, i understand that hillary clinton also took a shot at president trump tonight. what did she say? >> reporter: so the comments that were made earlier, she talked about the fact that he mentioned something about his decision making process. when he said he had more that he went on with his gut and people have with their brains and how that got a little bit convoluted about she use there had refrain over and over again throughout the evening teasing him about what was this gut thing going on and what did that have to do with real things that were based, in fact. part of that was climate change and part was what they argued was working in the iran deal and all kinds of deals that had really both of them both clintons had promoted at some point even nafta bill clinton saying it was 25 years ago. it needed some changes but it didn't need to be dismantled in the way it was. and they be ultimately it was renamed. we saw bill clinton almost apologize to the canadians for the way that trump treated them
in those nafta negotiations. it was a fascinating conversation and at the end, they ended up talking about the first time that the two of them met at yale as students and really kind of a refreshing change from some of the things that you hear on the 20th anniversary of the affair with monica lewinsky and the impeachment that has been so prevalent in the news lately. >> suzanne malveaux, thank you very much. >> snowy toronto. >> so i want to bring in now hilary rosen and scott jennings. geek to both of you. good to see you. scott, good to have you back, by the way. so listen, so hillary, let's talk about the clintons will controversial. you know, they're launching this speaking tour right now after the midterms. is it the right thing for democrats right now? is this a distraction for the party? >> oh, i don't think -- look, democrats just won 40 seats in
the house of representatives. i don't think bill and hillary clinton are any harm to the democratic party. >> is it distraction they need right now the party maybe? >> i don't see anybody being distracted. i think that you know, it's good to have people as smart as bill and hillary clinton out there talking some truth about donald trump. i think that they are distant enough from the presidency to be able to feel comfortable saying things that perhaps barack obama is the most recent recent president can't say. some things need to be said. i'm okay if the clintons want to say it. it's tame compared to the things that donald trump has said about bill and hillary over last several years. >> what do you think, scott, you heard the crowd. this is canada, right? remember, they don't vote in our elections. they said is this a run. they sort of screamed. did you hear, i couldn't hear
with my little earpiece here a definitive no? what did you think of that? a lot of folks are saying. >> she's not going to run, come on. >> scott? >> well, i'll be honest, i understand her impulse. she's looking around at a field of democrats, a bunch of has beens and never will be says i got more votes for president than anybody not named barack obama in u.s. history and you're telling me i cat run. why does joe biden get 0 run and i'm done? i'm a proven vote getter. i beat this guy once. i understand the impulse. i think she clearly wants to run. i think she believes that the country may have buyer's remorse and she is the antidote to giving people a chance to have their vote back. the things about folks with egos like this, they can talk themselves into anything. i think she would lose to trump again. i understand the impulse. it's clear she's not done with there yes. >> hilary, you said she won't
run again. >> there's a difference between wanting to be be president and being president. i think that will hillary has made it clear she wants to be president and a majority of the country wishes she were president right now. i don't think democrats are chasing hilary away from running for president. i think hillary doesn't want to do this again. she's done it twice. that's enough. but she's but she's still got a lot to contribute. i think she doesn't want to be told she can't speak, and that's more coming from republicans than from democrats. she's got a lot to offer, you know. in foreign policy she was the most popular secretary of state in history. and when donald trump does what he does to our relationships abroad, you know, she does take that personally. >> yeah. let me ask you one more question, hillary. this is about "me too." this is the rise of the "me too" era. bill clinton has gotten a lot of criticism, and so has hillary clinton, right? >> yeah.
>> many people feel that they're out of touch and that he really hasn't atoned for his part in what happened with monica lewinski. do you think they're out of touch with the mood of the country? >> well, you know, i do think that he has not responded well, effectively, or you know, even kind of as compassion negotiate as people would like to hear him do. he has i think not matched the awe th authenticity monica lewinski has demonstrated. i'd be surprised if they can get through this entire tour without him having to address it more thoroughly. >> that was a very good answer, a very honest answer. what do you think, scott? final thoughts. >> you know, i think hillary is right. i think that bill clinton has fallen short on this. and he's fallen short since the moment it happened all these years ago. i think if i were hillary
clinton and i were serious about the next run, i wouldn't be on a book tour with him, i'd ob a book tour by myself saying, i'm out here speaking in my own voice, i don't need this guy. honestly, he's done some things that i don't like, he's handled some things in a way that i didn't like. to me, that's what people are craving. i think authenticity, a word hillary used, is the exact right word. people are craving that in our politics and she's probably better able to do that without him sitting next to her. i think if she's serious, she's going to break away from this guy at least as a public matter. >> we'll be right back. what?! -welcome. -[ gasps ] a bigger room?! -how many of you use car insurance? -oh. -well, what if i showed you this? -[ laughing ] ho-ho-ho! -wow. -it's a computer. -we compare rates to help you get the price and coverage that's right for you. -that's amazing! the only thing that would make this better is if my mom were here.
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