tv CNN Right Now With Brianna Keilar CNN February 1, 2019 10:00am-11:01am PST
be watching here tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. super bowl liii is sunday. brianna keilar starts right now. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. underway right now, another day, another dem. cory booker enters the 2020 race, and he's already making headlines. will the man who refuses to remain silent be muzzled by a judge? roger stone in court any time now. and the mysterious calls with donald trump wejr. were no with his father, but do we know
who they were with? cory booker kicked off his campaign on social media with this message. >> i'm proud of not only who i am and my conviction, but this is a time where too many people, i think, are trying to pit people against each other, where the democratic party, i don't want it to be defined by what we're against but what we're for. if you're tired of that bitterness, that kind of trash talking, trolling, politics that are a race in this country, then don't vote for me. i'm trying to build this nation up, not tear it down. >> let's listen to president trump just moments ago at the white house. >> it's a disgrace. it's a disgrace. and now you have problems even with, i understand yesterday, even people from venezuela want to come through, everybody wants to come through. part of it is the success of our country, but we're going to keep our country successful. and we want people to come in.
so important to say. we need people. we have a lot of companies moving in, a lot of companies are moving back to the united states, i never thought they would be moving back, and we need people. you saw it with the jobs numbers, we need people. but it has to be through a legal process and one of merit, but we do want people coming into our country. they have to come in legally. what you do is incredible and the job you do is incredible. few people can do what you do, and we want to try to make it easier for you and you could handle more of the incredible work. no matter what we do, it's not going to stop but we could reduce it incredibly by tremendous numbers. i just want to thank everybody for being here, and we're very proud of the job you do. thank you very much. madam secretary, thank you very much. >> mr. president? >> mr. president, why not just go ahead and do the national
emergency now? >> we're spending a lot of money that we have on hand, and we're building -- i will say we will have 115 miles of wall, maybe a little more than that, very short. it's being built. some of it has already been completed. in san diego, if you look, it's completed. really nice. brand new. we're giving out a lot of contracts. it's getting built one way or another. >> are you going to declare a national emergency? >> we are doing things right now. i mean, we're building it with funds that are on hand, we're negotiating very tough prices. we've designed a much better-looking wall that is also actually a better wall which is an interesting combination. it's far more beautiful, and it's better. it's much more protective. but it looks better because the walls they used to build were not very attractive.
i think that's actually partially part of the problem, but the real problem is we need something. we're building a lot of wall right now as we speak, and we're renovating a lot of wall. and we're getting ready to give out some very big contracts with money that we have on hand and money that comes in. but we will be looking at a national emergency, because i don't think anything is going to happen. i think the democrats don't want border security. and when i hear them talking about the fact that walls are immoral and walls don't work, they know they work. i watched somebody being interviewed the other day by a very good anchor, and the anchor actually was getting angrier and a angrier while they tried to explain that a wall doesn't have much impact, yet thousands of people were on one side of the wall and nobody was on the other side of the wall. it was actually laughable and really horrible in the same breath. that's the way it is. if you look at el pass oo, if y
look at dangerous places, once the wall was built it became one of the safest places. immediately it became one of the safest cities in all of the country. so we're building the wall. a lot of it -- the chant now should be "finish the wall" as opposed to "build the wall," because we're building a lot of wall. i started this six months ago. we really started going to town because i could see we aren't getting anywhere with the democrats. it's going to be pafrt of their campaign but i don't think it's good politically. nancy pelosi is hurting a lot of people. in all fairness to the democrats, many of them want the wall. and i see it. they're just dying to say what they want to say, but they can't say it as well as they would be able to if they were allowed to do it. yes? >> reporter: so are you saying now that you believe on february
15th, the only option you will have left is either close down the government or declare an emergency because you don't have any faith this committee will come up with an answer? and if you do declare an emergency, are you concerned you will immediately be in some court? >> we have a very strong legal standing. it would be very hard to do that. but they tend to go to the ninth circuit, and when they go to the ninth circuit, things happen. the ban was missed and missed and then approved in the united states supreme court where we have had a very good record. they go to the ninth circuit. in many cases, and in fact in most cases, it has nothing to do with the ninth circuit. it's a shame what they do. so let's see what happens. i can only tell you this, john. we're in a very strong legal standing -- we are doing it regardless. we haven't declared the national emergency yet and yet we're building a lot of wall.
we're continuing to build a lot of wall. with, as we say in business, cash on hand. we're negotiating tough prices, we have a great wall system. it's very uniform. they used to have all these different systems, nobody knew what was going on. we have a very good solid system that looks good and is very powerful as a wall. >> but are you saying now you expect to declare a national emergency? >> i don't want to say, but you'll hear the state of the union and you'll hear what happens right after the state of the union, okay? >> are you going to wait until february 15 to do that? >> we're building now. the one thing i'm trying to stress to people because i wasn't before, before it meant less. when i see the tremendous obstruction by democrats knowing that the only saving of our southern border -- you look at these towns, before the wall they were crime-ridden, and now the wall -- we put up a wall in a certain area, and all of a sudden it went from being a horrible hell hole into
something that's really safe. they can't even believe it, the mayors can't even believe it. if you took some of the walls down in california -- for instance, one story, in san diego, they were begging us to build a wall. i mean, they were putting pressure on us, that area of san diego, where people were rampant going through. and you would have a lot of security but the security could only do so much. as an example, when you have these caravans that are going to be hitting -- we've done a great job with the caravans, an incredible job. most of them have gone back where they're staying on the other side of the wall. they haven't been coming in, for the most part. we've done a great job. we don't have the ammunition because we don't have the barrier. but it's been really amazing to see the difference when you have it and when you don't. it's incredible to see an area on the other side of the barrier. the old expression, walls work whether you like it or not, in israel they have a wall, and it is 99.9% successful. and ours are, too.
when we have it. we're going to be starting -- we have a few areas that we're starting where they catch up. once you have the holes in the middle, they just spread in, but you have to have it. so when you talk about the committee, i can tell you the republicans want to have a wall but the democrats are told, you can't do that. the democrats are doing a tremendous service to our country. you heard today about human trafficking. human trafficking can go down by a tremendous percentage if we had a wall on our southern border, tremendous. it's very hard to do human trafficking through ports of entry because you have people standing there looking, and they say, hey, what's going on in the backseat, what's going on under trump? they check these things. so they come into areas where you don't have the barriers. and we're not going to let that happen. so we're building a lot of it. we'll be up to about 115 miles
of wall, some renovated, some new, and we're going to make a big step in the next week or so prior to my doing anything. but actually having a national emergency does help the process. it would certainly help the process. what would help a lot would be if the democrats could actually be honest. if they're not being honest, everybody knows they're not being honest, they know they're not being honest. i would like to hear what they talk about in their rooms when they go back. i tell you what, a lot of pressure is being put on by democrats being put on their leadership. tremendous pressure is being put on because they cannot justify not having a barrier between our country and mexico. mexico just came out yesterday, 38,000 people were murdered in mexico. up an incredible amount, 30% or something, from the year before. 38,000 people were murdered in
mexico. it's one of the most unfortunately unsafe countries in the world. we need a protective barrier for our country. and that doesn't include honduras, who we are not happy with and we're looking at very seriously. and same thing for guatemala and the same thing for el sal vador. it's a disgrace what's going on in those countries. for years and years the united states have paid them hundreds of millions of dollars, and they do nothing for us. when the caravan starts in the middle of honduras, obviously they're allowing it to start, and they want it to start. because they want to not have certain people in that country. what do they do, they put nem the caravan. we've had aly tremendous number
of touchdown individuals ld. they're always saying don't do a wall. they're only saying it for one simple reason, couldn't be simpler, because they think it's good politics for 2020. they say, maybe we can beat trump because this is a big issue. i've done a loft otht of other . i've done military. our military is in great shape now, it's strong, it was totally depleted when i got here. labor cuts, wage cuts. we've done more than anybody else in two years. >> reporter: mr. president, you privately decided whether you will declare a national
emergency -- >> i think there is a good chance we'll have to do that, but we will, at the same time, be building regardless. we're building a wall and we're building a lot of wall, but i can do it a lot faster the other way. >> are you saying we should be prepared for you to announce at the state of the union what you are going snorto do? >> i take no option s on what t do. >> reporter: are you going to meet with xi? >> we had an incredible meeting yesterday with the vice chair of china. very strong, very respected also
by president xi. we had an amazing meeting on trade. also on fentanyl. china has agreed to criminalize fentanyl. that's going to have a huge impact on fentanyl coming into the the country. there is a. >> reporter: is sounded like danang. >> what does danang remind me of? a certain senator. >> reporter: do you have the money to build a wall? >> we have a lot of money. we had a billion 6 approved, then we had another billion 6 approved. now in theory we have a billion
3 improved. in some cases it's called a renovation but it's really much more. it's a wall in such bad shape that we take it down and build new wall in very important areas. but we're doing a combination of renovation and new wall. we've been doing a lot of it. >> do you need an appropriation from congress for national emergencies to build all the wall necessary? >> we're already appropriated. we have a lot of appropriation. it's already been done. and certain other things we'll be doing that we haven't done yet, and one of the things we're considering, obviously, is a national emergency. and it is, it's an invasion of our country of not only gangs and criminals and human traffickers, it's an invasion of drugs into our country. it's an in. of the. we could -- if we build a prop
barrier with great technology, we will see crime throughout the united states go down in percentages that we've never seen before. it will be an amazing thing. because so much of it comes through the southern border. >> reporter: mr. president, can you tell us some of the things that are importa -- themes that are important to you in the state of the union speech? >> i think they are themes you would know. most countries haven't had the success we've had in the last two years. if the other party fwot got up instead of having these 300 deals. these deals are better than ever before. that includes a deal if we make
the deal with china. it will be a different world for us. we lost $500 billion a year with china for many years. 5089 billion. ment my -- my relationship with president xi is very close. but it can't go on this way, we can't allow this to happen, but if you noticed yesterday, china as a sign of good will has agreed to purchase a massive amount of soybean and other agricultural project. i talked to senator magoo. he called this morning. our farmers are extremely happy. >> the wall you want to build is
186 miles long. you can't build right on the border. you may slow down people who don't want to get caught. and for all these 10,000. sfwlz we're going to solve the problem and therapies it will be great. it's a loophole. if you look at all this other chain migration, we have to fix all of it. it's very important. the wall is the most important thing by far, but we have to fix the loopholes. you're 100% right. >> reporter: nancy pelosi says you're risking a new arms race with russia. what's your answer?
>> honestly, i don't think nancy has a clue. i see that when she says walls are immoral. i wish she did. she's hurting this country very badly. it's all rhetorical not delivered well. she's hurting our country very, very badly even with statements like that. thank you very much, everybody. >> reporter: is this as much about the threat from china, pulling out of the treaty with russia? >> we have adhered to it but the other side hasn't. we shouldn't be the only one
that has. i hope when they get everyone into a big, beautiful room and do a new treaty, that would be much better. certainly i would like to see that. but you have to have everybody adhere to it, and you have a certain side that almost pretends it doesn't exist, pretty much pretends it doesn't exist. so unless we're going to have something we can all agree to, we can't be put at the disadvantage of going by a treaty, limiting what we do, when somebody else doesn't go by that treaty. okay? >> you're looking at president trump there at the white house just moments ago where he's having a meeting there with homeland security officials and citizens who are combatting human trafficking. i want to bring in cnn political director david challen at ab stoddard with us. pretty interesting take here,
guys. a few weeks before congress need to work out a deal to avert another government shutdown, he's totally dismissing it and it seems like he's gearing up to announce a national emergency in his state of the union address. >> in the moment he's saying, yeah, he'll likely have to do the national emergency, and then he urged the reporter to tune in and focus on the state of the union. that seems to suggest to me that he's revealing a little bit about what he intends to announce at the state of the union. i think weaver se've seen in th 26 hours, president trump and nancy pelosi have dug in where they are on this, so saying he's going to a national emergency to me means donald trump knows the shutdown was not a positive for him in any way and wants to avoid that again come february 15. >> there are a few problems with the national emergency. it might be his only climb-down, but it's not an emergency if he
built the wall. he told us how much of the wall has been rehabbed, torn down. we have all this money and now he's going to say it's the emergency. it sunds like he's gotten it rehabbed and it will be bizarre if he ends up carrying through this plan. it will definitely be chal challengi challenging. in court he's not likely to prevail, but they are not going to shut the government down again. if he ever balks two weeks from now, i think they would send him a spending bill in response to this. sherrod brown says the president is not a match for them in 2020, looking at the numbers. congress is opposed to a
national declaration of an emergency. this is going to receive some pushback. there might be resolutions on the house and senate floor to just disprove a national emergency. this is going to be a huge political show. >> let's talk about his characterization of the wall. he wants the money for the wall to build the wall, but now it sort of sounds like he's saying the wall is already being built and the mantra is "finish the wall." let's be clear about this. there are some renovations. he's trying to argue that it's tantamount to building on the wall. >> that's not the wall he campaigned on every day in 2015 and 208d. so he is clearly trying to find
his figure leaf on the wall that he can then use to say he got the wall. there's so much wall there already, finish the wall. that is not at all -- the wall on the southern border he was. p you saw ann coulter and others really lashing ought at on him. it will be interesting to see where his allies are and how signal republicans, especially the ones in 2020, they're supposed to decide how the funds are spent and keep the funding bills covered until the end of the fiscal year, and they also don't want a national emergency. this is not going to end today because he's decided to pretend it's all great. >> no, it's not. a.b. stoddard, it means we'll
have you back very soon. here's senator cory booker putting his hat in the ring. >> i think cory booker almost sounds like a hallmark card and not necessarily a person who is there to tell you everything he's accomplished in the united states and new york. i imagine the democratic field will be attacking each other's records or lack thereof, so we'll be sitting bawith bags of popcorn watching that. >> this primary battle we're going to see, can you just react to what we're hearing from kellyanne conway? because as you see this interparty battle that we're expecting to see, sure, maybe that's something the white house
wants to celebrate, but it's also, aside from being just kind of a cage fight, there is an element of political darwin ichld where it's glg to chaloine in political fields. what is she saying there? >> we're continuing to add to the field of what i think are extremely capable and qualified and, i think, even inspirational figures competing for the white house. clearly senator booker is carving a lane, frankly, of contrast between him, the last 18 minutes of what we heard from the president, more derision, more division building walls, separating people. but his contrast isn't by going to twitter and social media and trading barbs, it is basically by testing a more clue sieve
vision by helping americans see what we share in common. i think it will be. mr. booker, i think, will be a candidate the where he's not going to be afraid to fwauk his record. >> what do you think when you hear kellyanne conway dismissing that as a lingual mark card. that only knows what it means to divide americans, where they gonl gutter positively tickets. i hear the candidate say there's more that joins us than divides us.
what i think senator booker as well as the other candidates so far who have been entrants into this race are clear about is that they're not going to go to the gutter with this president. they're not going to compete with him in the gutter, not him, not the white house, his staff. they're going directly to the american people and remind us frankly of a higher calling. i have to applaud him on that. i don't think we're going to win in the gutter with this president. that's where he thrives. it's going to be important to always take this conversation to a higher level. >> cory booker declaring his candidacy on the first day of black history month. kamala harris declaring her candidacy on martin luther king jr. day. it strikes me that then-senator barack obama was a little more careful about how he was emphasizing his heritage when he first campaigned. what would you think after seeing the first black
president? does that affect these candidates as their coming out of the gate message and really emphasizing their racial heritage? >> well, i tell you, both these candidates, senator harris as well as senator booker, did make their entrances coming into the race, but i don't think either of them will be able to put theirs in a singular box. they're not running to be the first black woman president or the second african-american president of the united states in mr. booker's case. they really have an appeal across these demographic lines and demographic barriers. they're going to be talking about issues, and i think they're going try to highlight the issues that again allow us to bring each other together. the other thing that i think this electorate is interested in is candidates who are going to run as themselves. there is no sense in pretending
that kamala harris is not a black woman. there is no sense in attempting to ignore the fact that mr. booker will bring a set of experiences as a black man in that many races, but they're not running with that as a theme, either. what are the issues? health care, education, criminal justice. how is it that we're going to reach even trump voters who thought they were getting a president who would advocate for n nir. these american people talk to themselves and many how they're going to have a greater vision. thank you much for being with us. >> thank you for having me. new year's of an arms race after the u.s. suspends.
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>> it does no good to sign an agreement if the party isn't going to comply with it. the piece of paper that's not being complied with doesn't reduce the risk, it doesn't take down that threat. it is being violated by the russians. it's the very agreement they signed up for. we didn't force them into the agreement, they decided this was in their best interest. they've now decided it's not in their best interest. >> former defense secretary and cia director leon panetta is joining me now. sir, thank you so much for being with us. >> good to be with you, brianna. >> this treaty is a centerpiece, it's been a centerpiece of security since the cold war. what's wrong with it? >> there are people concerned, i'm sure, about whether or not as a result of getting rid of this treaty we'll begin a new arms race on nuclear weapons.
we have made a lot of progress on that through the s.t.a.r.t. agreements, through the imf treaty. we thought we were headed in the right direction. there is no question the russians have been violating this treaty. they're deploying battalions of these cruise missiles along their border. but at the same time, this administration doesn't have a very good record of getting rid of treaties and then replacing them with something better. that's what makes people very nervous. >> we just talked to president trump, and he was saying when asked about this at the white house, he said essentially this does need to be renegotiated. you're saying there isn't a good record of that, but he says they need to get in a big, beautiful room. other countries like china need to be brought in. what do you say to that? >> well, you know, i don't think that's a bad thing, to try to sit down and try to get our allies and russia to join
together to try to develop a treaty that everybody will abide by. but there isn't a good track record here. this administration pulled out of the china trade agreement. they pulled out of the trade agreement with south asian nations. nothing has replaced that. they pulled out of the iran agreement. nothing has replaced that. so there is a real question mark as to whether or not they have a strategy for really putting in place something better. and that's what makes people nervous. >> i want to get your perspective as a former cia director about what we've seen play out that's really extraordinary with the intel chiefs. they testified publicly on camera indisputably contradicting the president's claims about isis, north korea and iran, and yet the president is disputing the characterization that they're not in lock step with him. how do you think that these heads of intel agencies view all
of this? how would you view it if you were still cia director? >> well, it has to be really disconcerting, because these intelligence agencies have an obligation to speak truth to power. and that's exactly what they did. and when the president rejects what they've said because it doesn't somehow agree with his version of the world, then he not only attacks them, but he's saying they were misquoted. the reality is that if this president is going to face the tough decisions that presidents have to face, they have to rely on intelligence. it has to be good intelligence. it has to be truthful intelligence. and when he rejects it, it sends a real message to the world that we now have a president that's basically operating on his own
and not listening to the people that really know what's going on. >> these are figures who generally -- i mean, we did see them testify, as they do annually, before congress. but in general they keep a pretty low profile. these are intelligence chiefs. so when the president then characterizes their sentiments from his characterization, to be clear, which is sort of dubious, that they believe the daylight between themselves and the president to be fake news. is that really problematic? do you think that people dismiss that, or do you worry that that is a bad situation because obviously they're not in the kind of position where you would refute that publicly? >> well, it's a terrible situation to have a president who rejects the information he receives from the intelligence people that he's appointed to those positions. and yes, they are low key. that's the way they're supposed
to be, because their responsibility is to present to the president the intelligence about what is happening in the wor world. we have a president who doesn't want to listen to the truth because he has his own version of that. he said isis was defeated. our intelligence chief said that's not the case, that there are thousands that are continuing to work. that's a fact. this president says that iran is cheating on the nuclear agreement. our intelligence official says that's not the case. the president rejects that because it doesn't agree with his version of what's going on. same thing about russia, the same thing about other issues, particularly on border security. he says it's a national emergency, and our intelligence chiefs don't put it at the top, really, of the major threats that we're confronting in this world. so the danger here is to have a president who has his version of
what he thinks should be true. and basically it's what he wants the world to look like. well, the purpose of intelligence is to tell you what the world is, not what he wants it to look like. >> sir, thank you so much. leon panetta, we really appreciate you joining us. >> thank you. nice to be with you. long-time trump adviser and confidant roger stone arrived in court just moments ago. will a federal judge keep him away from the cameras? we'll find out. good thing they discovered gain flings. the only detergent with concentrated gain, oxi boost, and febreze odor remover. try new improved gain flings.
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we have breaking news. president trump's long-time adviser and confidant, roger stone, arrives in federal court in d.c. for a hearing, and we expect to learn whether a judge will stop him from talking about this case in public. stone has pleaded not guilty to the seven counts against him. they include five counts of making false statements, one count of obstruction and one count of witness tampering. let's bring in laura coates, former federal prosecutor and cnn legal analyst. laura, when you hear -- first off, what do you expect the judge to do here? what would the basis be for this? would you be surprised if he said, look, you're not going to be talking about this? >> no. frankly, if you're roger stone, why would you want to talk about it? you have false statement accusations, witness tampering. every time you speak there is an
opportunity for someone to interpret your actions as further tampering. remember, a judge not too long ago talked about a gag order with paul manafort and saying, hey, you have to be quiet because you don't want to mislead the public or someone who may testify in this case. it really is in the interest of the people who are the actual parties in the case. it's frustrating in the media to have a gag order but it actually helps the litigants in the case to say, let's stop talking before it may behoove you in testimony and nothing else. >> so the president has said that he never asked roger stone about wikileaks. he talked about that and a whole lot more in a wide-ranging interview he did with the "new york times." he was asked what deputy general rod rosenstein has told him about the russia investigation, and here's what he said. >> he told the attorneys that i'm not a subject -- i'm not a target -- yeah. oh, yeah. >> did he say anything about
mueller and cohen in the investigation? >> i don't know. i don't know about that. >> that's very interesting. first off, what questions are outstanding for you? he was told this, and we were not confirmed he was told this. what are you aware of? >> he was a target and not the subject. the target is sun who liomeone y will become a subject at any given time. did rod rosenstein say you're not a target or you're not a subject? that's looming out there. also the communication between himself and rod rosenstein. to what extent has there been communications about the russian collusion probe in general? has there been a fluid conversation? has there been an interpretation of a statement made by rod rosenstein in public? he gave a very stunning press conference a couple months ago to tell the people to rest assured, that the evidence would
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we heard the president speaking moments ago about the wall. he said to expect something on his decision to declare a national emergency shortly after next week's state of the union address. so that would be before the negotiations are finished. florida republican congressman michael waltsz with us now. we're really happy to have you here. it seems pretty clear the president is more than telegraphing -- it's so much more. he's writing in lights that he's going national emergency declaration, that seems clear. would you be okay with him doing that, with taking money from other places like where its allocated in the pentagon budget and using it for a wall? >> before we go there, more broadly, the president's been very reasonable on this. his speech last week, he moved retorically away from, fine, if you don't want to call it a
wall, steel slats. >> he called it yesterday, a wall is a wall, call it whatever you want. >> we all know it's a steel barrier, not the great wall of china from sea to shining sea. he also put daca on the table and the other side has said repeatedly we're not going to negotiate until the government's open. well, the government's open now and now we're hearing from the speaker, we're not going to negotiate or no barrier funding -- >> they put forward a proposal, it has a lot of things in it with border security. they're open to a barrier. that's what nancy pelosi has made clear, but the president -- >> but she's also said not a dollar for a wall now or ever. so, look -- >> is a wall a fence or barrier? >> but the folks are so frustrated with this -- >> these are appropriators. give them a chance to work. >> i agree.
let's let the conference committee do their work, cut a deal, move forward. we have a lot of things this country needs to deal with including border security. my point is, you cannot get to legal immigration reform until you secure the border, otherwise you'll have the same problems three, five years from now. i thought the deal that was offered last year was very appropriate. daca, border security, chain migration, lottery system, let's get back to something like that. cut a deal, compromise can't be a dirty word and move. let's go. >> declaring a national emergency, do you have concerns? >> i have concerns as a congressman, i would not want to see that as a coequal branch. at the same time, congress after congress after congress under multiple administrations have not solved this problem. the president was elected to solve this problem, he is trying to negotiate right now, so, you know, let's negotiate over the next 15 days. >> barbara star, our pentagon reporter is reporting that the
u.s. military and intelligence officials believes isis could reemerge and take back territory in syria if the u.s. does not maintain military pressure. that timeline could be six to 12 months. that's now from barbara starr. what's your reaction to that? >> i'm still serving in the guard. >> you have served in afghanistan. >> right. >> you have served in the middle east. >> right. >> you're very familiar with these problems. >> my concern is the underlying causes of instability and sectarian violence or what have you that caused isis in the first place are still there. we need to stay engaged whether that is way few thousand or with special forces, diplomatically. we need to stay engaged in that region. iranian is running rampant. the russians are moving in. i'm encouraged to see the president listening to folks like lindsey graham and reconsidering.
the turks, by the way, do not care about isis. if you look at the geography, don't have the capability to affect where they still remain. the turks care about the kurds. the united states has to lead and when we don't bad things happen. >> in afghanistan where he's reportedly want to drop from 14,000 troops to 7,000, that would be a significant and somewhat rapid draw down. what's your reaction to that? >> we need to maintain a counterterrorism capability. half the world's terrorist organizations exist in that border region. if pakistan destabilizes that's about five times the population of afghanistan with nukes. we have an interest in staying engaged there too. i'm sorry it's a difficult, long, hard proposition, but we cannot revert. we cannot leave our gains behind. we have to make sure the afghans build to the point where they can take care of the problem themselves. what those troop numbers look like that's completely with his
and the pentagon's prerogative. we have to maintain a footprint there. we have to stay on offense. we're going to fight it in damascus or kansas city. there's a false pretense in washington on both sides of the aisle that if we just let them take care of it, bring the boys home, that america doesn't need to be involved any more. it will follow us home. it has in the past and we can't let it again because going back again will be far more costly than staying engaged. >> congressman, thank you so much. really appreciate you joining us in studio. we have more on cnn's exclusive reporting. the mysterious phone calls that donald trump jr. made after the trump tower meeting were not to his father. 911, what's your em? (overlapping radio calls) if the firemen didn't answer their call, i truthfully don't know where i would be. i'm grateful for you guys, every time i step on the field.
♪ ♪ the food, the tv ads, the party, the halftime show and, oh, there's also a football game, right, a football game? the excitement building in atlanta ahead of sunday's super bowl when the new england patriots take on the l.a. rams, but the game is only part of the story. cnn early start coanchor dave briggs live for us in atlanta. dave, it's nice to see you at this hour, first off. what are some of the things you'll be watching for as super bowl liii kicks off?
>> reporter: it's nice to be on in the waking hours. let's kick things off with the halftime show with a little controversy. maroon 5 is under fire there. they're asking levine to drop out of the performance given colin kaepernick's continued absence in the nfl. levine told entertainment tonight they will be heard the petitioners, adding i don't want to spoil anything, that could be the monday watercooler talking point. the commercials always intriguing. maybe less so now that they're leaked prior to the game, but you will see some celebs like charlie sheen, harrison ford and cardi b and the big lee boughski reappearing after ten years. samuel adams is proof you have to spend $5.2 million on a 30 second ad. they rolled out this 32 ounce giant g.o.a.t. can honoring tom
brady. it tastes pretty good. that's just a rumor. on the field the rams coach sean mcvay is the youngest coach ever in the super bowl, just 33, half the age of bill belichick going for his sixth ring. i add one question that will define this game, can the rams get to tom brady? he's thrown the ball 90 times in the playoffs, has not been sacked once. you got to put him on his back if you're going to beat him, brianna. >> thank you so much for that. be sure to watch kickoff in atlanta. and that's it for me. "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. brianna, thank you. hi, there, i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn. and here it is, senator cory booker in newark, new jersey. >> i have the greatest comeback story for any american c