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>> this is a president that has corrosion going on all around him. >> we have called for resignation. that's what the governor does. >> so many people can say they have not seen a racist bone in his body. i can attest to that. to stay in the office shows he does not understand the significance of what has happened. >> this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> hello. welcome to "new day." alisyn is off but watching, poppy harlow is with us now. she doesn't get the don't watch tv when you're not working. >> hi, ali. >> in a few hours, president trump heads to the u.s. capitol tonight where for the first time he delivers the state of the union address to the a divided congress, and tonight giving the speech just two weeks after the shutdown and not getting a penny
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for his border wall at all. we are told tonight's theme is "choosing greatness". the president, we are told, will try to strike a tone of unity and encourage both sides to come together. overnight, federal prosecutors subpoenaed president trump's inaugural committee for documents related to donors, finances. this greatly escalates a wide ranging inquiry how a record $107 million was raised and how it was spent. prosecutors are investigating a litany of potential crimes to conspiracy against the united states, wire fraud and money laundering and the possibility of illegal contributions from foreign nations. joining us now, cliff simms, author of "team of vipers," my 500 days in the white house and the message strategy that would be a big job surrounding a day like this, the state of the union. i do understand you've been in
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contact with one of the speechwriters preparing the state of the union tonight. what do you think they would do? >> i think the team is starting to think about another big picture election in terms of what direction our country is going to head. tonight, you will see him start to lay the groundwork a little bit. he's using that "choose greatness" as the theme. i think it will get back to -- in 2016, he felt like, i agree, he was the candidate that had the best branding, best immediate sense, when you think trump, you knew what you were getting, what he was trying to do. he lost that a little bit in the weeds of trying to be president. i think he will try to get back to that and really set the stage for this big directional election coming in 2020. >> one of the things we have been told he's going to do is talk about unity and comity, that is with a "t."
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you have noted on this show before the president's strategy is play to the base and go deep to the people who like you and not do much to reach out to people beyond that. does he need to finally reach beyond his base, or try to? >> i think these are conflicting impulses you see going into speech like this. i can say going back to, while i was still in the white house, the state of the union, he came back from the capitol and we met him in the reception room and an ex-s ex-suber rant feeling, we met him and these are moments he had unifying speeches and moments with guests in the gallery, those are things that drive great coverage and makes him want to be very aspirational. that is an impulse that will be pulling on him tonight with that experience. on the other hand, as you mentioned, some of the guests are family members killed by
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illegal immigrants. those are issues that have driven his base a long time. i think there are divided impulses. i think he will thread the needle between those two tonight and see if he can be successful. to his credit the last couple of years, he really has risen to the occasion. >> tell me about that. he likes the applause and the pomp? tell us about it. >> he gives the joint address and comes back and i remember van jones on cnn said, this is the moment donald trump became president. the coverage was unbelievably laud datory. it only last the 24, 48 hours, though, because if you recall, jeff sessions recused himself right behind that speech. he stayed off twitter and let this real positive news coverage play out. then that happened and kind of
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took away from it. i think he does have memories of moments he's able to have really positive coverage based on these speeches. i think he will be thinking about that going into tonight. >> would you guys try to trick him into or convince him to keep on going with these moments of messages of unity and say, hey, look how people are responding to your outreach? >> i don't think it was necessarily tricking him as saying, look what you did here. you really rose to the occasion, gave an incredible speech and look at the extraordinary reaction you're getting to that. that kind of positive reinforcement going with it, and i would expect, as he has done so many times, rising to these moments. >> in your heart of hearts, do you think he's capable of sticking to the 45 minutes tonight? the problem always is the follow-up?
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>> it comes down to the coverage and does he feel like he's getting his just due from the media for his performance tonight. if he's watching it, it is positive he sticks on those themes. he reacts to that feedback loop. he's very dialed in, as you know, to what that feedback loop it. it depends what the coverage is. if it's laud da -- laditory and positive. >> from your lips to his ears. as you know, he tends to watch a fair amount of cable news. there's been new reporting to that end. axios received a huge dump of leaked schedules from the last two years, daily schedules, the likes you don't normally receive. i heard an outcry from democrats and republicans that it went public at all. let me read you something you wrote about this. we got these scheduled e-mails
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to us every morning. consider the sheer amount of time and effort to combine two months of schedules. if most leaks are involuntary manslaughter, this was premeditated murder. vipers going to vipe. premeditated murder, what do you mean? >> it takes a lot of time. not you get these schedules out of outlook and fire them off to a reporter, clearly, that will leave a digital trail. somebody, however they captured the two or three months of e-mails, whether screen shooting the screen or e-mailing to their personal e-mail, who knows how they did it, the sheer amount of effort that went into it showed the malicious intent behind a leak like this is clear. i think it's wrong and disgraceful and right for there to be a bipartisan outcry, similar to how there was when the president's foreign leader calls, some things are sacred.
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the man is president of the united states. this is mayhem nor the sake of mayhem. i can't make sense of the purpose other than to try to portray him as not working hard. i was there and unstructured time more than past presidents, but the guy works hard. i saw it everyday. he gets up and works his butt off, that's the fact of the matter. for somebody to try to undermine him, disgraceful. >> that may be the purpose. you look at the unstructured time, 297 hours versus 77 hours of meetings, you saw it, what does happen in that executive time? >> it's kind of tim floor what he did and wrote -- kind of similar to what he did and wrote about in his books. talking to his advisors and internal advisors in the white house. he is watching the media to get a sense how things are playing
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in the press. he's constantly in motion, constantly working during the day, at night. he kind of never turns off. that's my experience with him. i think it's an unfair characterization to say because there's a lot of unstructured time that that means there's not a lot of work getting done. that's not my experience with him. >> he does watch a lot of tv, let's be fair. you write a lot about that in your book and describe the tv put in the study in the oval office, a flat screen television, has like a super tivo as he grabs the remote and scrolls through the clips cued up for him. tv watching is part of the regime, right? >> no doubt. it's part of his work flow, watching you guys this morning, watching fox, msnbc, seeing how different issues are playing to different audiences. that's why he's able to control so much of the news cycle through twitter and other things
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and allows him to see that and react to it in real-time. >> after the campaign you came into the administration. did you work on the inauguration at all? >> i was in alabama most of the time, didn't work it at all, the transition and inauguration are two separate entities. >> absolutely, two separate entities and have to be two separate entities. i bet you're glad of that given the subpoenas that went out to the committees. they raised an inordinate amount of money. now, the southern district of new york wants to know how it was spent and how it was raised, whether some donations come from foreign sources. when you look at the inauguration, are there legitimate questions about how it was enacted, how it was performed and the people behind it? >> on the fund-raising side, i'm not sure, i'm watching as a passive observer like many people around the country.
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i will say on the spending side, we have seen a number of stories, going back to my time in the white house, how some resources were spent, vendors, a friend of the first lady was a key player organizing a lot of the things and millions of dollars spent through that entity. these are stories we have seen trickle out over the last six or eight months and maybe worth lifting up the hood to see if there was impropriety as to those vendors. i have no reason to believe there's any impropriety. just as a passing observer. >> it doesn't sound like you would be shocked if there was something. >> not the president or first lady, you have dozens of people in a massive undertaking like this. based on some stories, it wouldn't be surprising if there
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were vendors down the food chain there they may be worth taking a look at. >> you've been in the press quite a bit over the last few weeks and the trump campaign says they will file a lawsuit against you for violation of your agreement. any response to the lawsuit? >> no. we've been watching it play out and i've been advised to say, we'll wait and see. >> we'll wait and see. >> circling back to the state of the union tonight. you said the president could reach across and talk about how much he enjoys this moment. but if you look at the polling, 41% of independents approved of him two years ago, 41% approve today. he's made zero inroads there. do you have any sense of why? >> i think a lot of it is, like i talked about earlier, competing impulses, his impulse to play to that base, and it got him elected. he's had success with that.
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rather than being a mile wide and an inch deep, he froefrs go maybe very deep -- he prefers to go very deep with a specific section of the population and energize them and hope they go to the polls. that has been the play throughout the campaign and administration. for him to shift directions in that regard, i would be a little bit surprised at this juncture if he did that. >> we'll let you go. since he might be watching, any message you want to say to the president over the last couple of years? >> knock it out of the park like you have done on every occasion. do it again. >> that was fascinating. now to white house press secretary sarah sanders and hopefully will give us new details what we will be seeing. watch the live coverage of the address tonight starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. as john brought up in the interview we will go over the
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federal prosecutors in new york subpoenaed president trump's inaugural committee. they want to see documents related to donors, lenders, finances all into this ongoing probe of activity. joining us, david gregory, analysts and jeffrey toobin from cnn. let's pull up on the screen what prosecutors believe what crimes may have been committed here. there is a litany of them. conspiracy against the united states, false statements, mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering, disclosure violations, contributions by foreign nations, straw donors. and did someone make a donation by someone else because they couldn't make it directly. >> this is a broad subpoena, that's the point. really broad. >> there are some crimes not
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listed there. that's good. >> there are some. >> we're talking about $107 million, a ton of money. there's been criticism raised about where did that all go? there weren't like a record number of super fancy inaugural events. >> in fact, there was twice as  much money raised for fewer events than either obama or george bush conducted. step back. what's under investigation right now? trump's businesses? his campaign, his foundation, his inauguration, his presidency. there has not been anything like the kind of stench of corruption around one president than there has -- richard nixon had nothing on this. now, is there proof? no. but the question is, as so often, where did the money go? that's why you subpoena the records. >> where did it come from? >> exactly. where did it come from. in the modern world, the good
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news for investigators is there is almost always a trail where the money came from and where it goes. that is what they're looking for. >> what's the standard to issue subpoenas like this, jeffrey? how much does the southern district have to have at this point to be pushing for what they're pushing for now? >> very little. you're talking about an internal check. the office itself has its own standards. you don't have to have probable cause, reasonable suspicion. the way it works, you have a stack of subpoenas in your desk and you and the fbi or other agency you're working with, who should we subpoena? that's how it works in the low profile investigations but this is very much up to the discretion of the individual prosecutors. >> margaret, to you, looking at this, sarah sanders will be on the show later. the administration can point to, i would assume an answer would
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be, look, this isn't the president, nothing to do with the white house. to jeffrey toobin's point, it just adds to the list of trump entities under investigation. >> poppy, you're right. that's been the white house's position. they have different lawyers who address these questions, has nothing to do with them, the inaugural committee. look where we are here. the same day of the president's second "state of the union" address. it is the midpoint of his first term in office and investigations into his inaugural committee are still under way. this goes to show the cloud he's under, how pervasive it is and this idea when robert mueller's investigation is over, the presidency could move on. we see day-by-day as the sdny reach expands how that really
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may not be true. i think there are long lasting tentacles on this. ongoing questions not just how the money was spent but who the money came from and how it was passed to the inaugural committee and countries like russian and ukraine and many of the gulf nations. yeah. >> look who's involved here as well, right? this subpoena comes out of the investigation into michael cohen, on his way to princeton, maybe he's going to princeton but he's actually going to prison. and to rick gates, right? who worked for paul manafort, who had to plead and cooperating as well. the cross-pollination between these two different cases and question jeffrey raises, the importance of following the money trail. where does that lead? does it the lead cooperation or foreign influence on the 2016 race. the other side of all this is how tedious it is to follow this kind of investigation or tentacles of investigation day-by-day.
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the very breadth how the president and his businesses, foundation, campaign are being investigated leads you back to the same place. what is the proof? what does it all add up to? is he responsible in some fashion for cooperating with a foreign power, like russia, to interfere in the 2016 campaign. i think you will hear from sarah sanders and plenty of president supporters, where does this end and what are they coming up with? which is a reflection how difficult it is to look at this day-by-day and see what it amounts to. >> at a minimum, we know it's not ending, jeffrey, and that may be one of the most significant things here, in a post mueller world, maybe we're getting to the end of the investigation, the post mueller world still includes the investigation in new york very actively. >> to say nothing of the united states house of representatives
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now aggressively just beginning investigations of everything connected to trump's pre-and during this is presidency. congress doesn't have the power to prosecute. that's obviously a big difference but they certainly have the power to call attention and hold hearings, so that the idea that the corruption era issue might go away, i think that is just foreclosed. that's just not going to happen. >> david gregory, switching gears from what happens tonight and the president and reported he's taking this seriously and rehearsing in front of his senior staff and will have another rehearsal this afternoon with the teleprompter. this promise of bipartisanship comes after a blistering battle of even just delivering the state of the union, not to mention the looming threat of another shutdown or declaration of constitutional questionable national emergency. what's your read on it tonight?
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>> the president can occasionally use all the trappings of the presidency to bring the country together. he can't just once in a while use that when he spends most days breaking that down and dividing the country. he's wounded. he's deeply wounded politically, off the midterm election, off the fact he had to cave on this government shutdown because he got spooked by the ramifications of it and back to accusing nancy pelosi, who will be literally over his shoulder of supporting human trafficking because she won't support the wall as he's talking about declaring a national emergency to get that funding and getting to infrastructure week where there has been talk of the parties coming together. i don't expect a lot. there are notes of bipartisanship where they can still work together. i think he will still be trying to use this bully pulpit to make the case for his vision of hard line border security.
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>> everyone weekend is a structure week at this point. market, past presidents, you would have a rollout plan after the state of the union address. the speech would happen and the president would travel to six locations over two week to strike certain themes here. i haven't heard that is what the president may be doing. he may be hamstrung he has this deadline of the next 10 days when there could be a government shutdown. >> i don't see travel plans the rest of the week. if there are, it hasn't been broadcast yet. two things to keep an eye on, this february 15th deadline in the next shutdown or some kind of emergency declaration, or whatever plan c is and this attention on the wall. this bipartisan plan we expect to hear from what democrats want and the drilling issue and
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again, i don't expect to see him going on the road to sell reduced prescription drug prices this week. i think the emphasis is on the border wall and shutdown and emergency threat until that issue is resolved. what's problematic, if the approach is to be bipartisan, there is not bipartisan support for another shutdown or emergency declaration. all your polling and most recent polling show this is very strong support for both options among his base. he must hold his base together for reelection. that's his challenge. >> jeffrey, the constitutionality of national emergency for wall funding. they're calling it. just yesterday, a senator said it was of dubious constitutionality. >> i think the president is on
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pretty solid constitutional ground. there are statutes that allow him to make emergency expenditures. it's a political problem. this is congress's most jealously guarded power, the power of the purse. even the republicans care about that. if the president really wants to do this, i think constitutionally, he probably has the right to. will republicans allow him to do it? my answer is probably. they usually talk tough when it comes to trump but they don't ever fight back. i think if he wants to do it he will do it. >> i will take the over on that. last point, stacy abrams is delivering the democratic response. a lot can go wrong and very little go right often when you're giving the response to the president's state of the union. what do you expect to see tonight? >> it's some of the messages the progressive caucus in the house wants to advance and leadership and their legislation and priority. it's a real nod to the present
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and future of the democratic party and what progressive goals they have for national leaders to pick up, particularly in this election year we're already starting. >> thank you all for being with us on this morning before the stu address, which of course is tonight. it is his time in the spotlight. how have passt presidents made their addresses matter? a reality check. welcome to fowler, indiana. one of the windiest places in america. and home to three bp wind farms. in the off-chance the wind ever stops blowing here... the lights can keep on shining. thanks to our natural gas. a smart partner to renewable energy. it's always ready when needed.
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in just hours the president will deliver the annual state of the union address. polls show 55% of americans asked disapprove of his performance as president. can a speech, one speech, turn that all around? john avalon here with a reality check. >> welcome to super bowl for policy wonks, the state of the union is here. tonight, the president will offer his opportunity in a scripted report to congress following the longest shutdown
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in history. 43% of americans say the president is doing the worst job of governing in their lifetime. there's always a chance a strong speech could leave analysts saying tonight was the time donald trump finally became president. here's some of the most memorable state of the unions in the past 50 years. this is the good, the bad, the ugly state of the union edition. let's start with a president even more troubled than donald trump. bill clinton, 1998. he took the podium just 10 days after the monica lewinsky scandal broke. he reminded people they liked his policies even if they didn't like his behavior. >> what should we do with this projected surplus? i have a simple four-word answer. save social security first. >> clinton's speech was interrupted 104 times for applause. his job approval rating actually
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went up 10 points to an astounding 69%. the only modern president with a job approval rating lower than president trump in this term is ronald reagan who went on to win a landslide reelection. the gipper gave us a staple a shout-out to a deserving citizen, known as a lenny skutnik, the brave pilot that dove into the potomac to stave off the air crash. richard nixon was somewhere between the anger and bargaining stages of grief when he told congress this. >> one year of watergate is enough. >> needless to say, it wasn't. less than seven months later, richard nixon was out of a job. it fell to his successor, gerald ford, to level with the american people. the state of the union is not good. >> fast forward to where
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president obama had 84% approval rating. >> states like these and their terrorist allies cut an axis of evil. >> the invasion of iraq began a year later and with iran and north korea still show the policy. and president obama criticized the supreme court decision. >> last week, the supreme court passed a law that i believe will open the flood gaits for special interests and including on for corporations. >> justice alito could be seen shaking his head and mouthing, not true. in years since, we have seen it leading to more money in politics without the transparency. we're still learning how foreign entities funnel money to influence our elections in 2016. politics is history in the present tense. we will be watching to see whether president trump can support a unifying division to
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pass a policy in congress. that's a reality check. >> such interesting history. can you imagine a president today ever saying the state of the union is not good? i can't imagine, no matter what the state of the union actually is, i can't imagine. >> give him credit. >> absolutely. so weird. >> and approval ratings, 69, 84%, we're a long way from that. >> john, thank you very much. ahead j american weapons being used by americans' enemies, how iran and the back fighters are getting their hands on some of the technology. incredible. exclusive next.
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welcome back. u.s. lawmakers are renewing their efforts to pass a war powers resolution through congress in an attempt to end american military support for the saudi led coalition in yemen. as the u.s. government grapples with this entanglement, our reporter has been following the trail of this weaponry and devastation left in their wake. >> after presenting their findings, telling the u.n. exclusively it is ongoing. joining us now, what have you learned? >> we went to yemen to try and track down some of this high-tech u.s. weaponry that we knew was ending up in the wrong hands. take a look at this.
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>> reporter: shells of littered american weapons were on the road. welcome. where american weaponry is sold and stolen and found here. we're here to follow the trail and chaos they left behind. our journey starts at the front line where a cease-fire was recently signed. climbing up for a better look, the position is only 2 to 300 meters away. there's movement there on the horizon. did you hear that? get down. there. another shot. that's coming from over there. they want to take us to the actual position, they want to show us the cease-fire violation. no machine.
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they're now firing on us. you can hear it. i can hear an musa incoming. it's getting heavier and we're told we have to drive away. you can hear that. even now, getting much much heavier. the influx of weaponry is prolonging the conflict. on our way back from the front line, we spot what we've come in search of. it's absolutely incredible driving past. it's like a graveyard of american military hardware. this is not under the control of coalition forces, this is in the command of militias. which is expressly forbidden by the arms sales agreement with the u.s. on the outside of these mine resistant armored vehicles, there are stickers proudly
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proclaiming them as property of a militia ally to the coalition. we zero in on the serial numbers tracing them back to the u.s. manufacturer, the largest provider of armored vehicles for the u.s. army. we are told to stop filming. but we're able to find another vehicle, this one even has the export sticker from beaumont, texas, to abu dhabi in the united arab of emirates. as we ride back in town we pass another militia held, and everywhere says "made in the usa." yemen is split between warring factions. u.s. led in the south and ar iranian backed in the north. we can't cross the front lines to go north but the emirates
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have. captured by iran's allies, houthis. the backdrop of america, this was broadcast on a houthi backed channel with the deputy leader sitting behind the wheel. cnn was able to obtain the serial number from one of the held emirates and verified it was bought with $24 billion u.s. sale to a coalition partner. why does it matter? because these very emirates and others like them have already with health and fallen into the hands of iranian intelligence. and the unit of the security forces, cnn was told some u.s. technology has already been transferred to iran. >> the iranian intelligence are assessing u.s. technology very closely. there isn't a single american weapon they don't try to find
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out its details, what it's made of and how it works. >> reporter: advanced improvised explosive devices with iranian components are now mass-produced by houthi forces on a scale only previously achieved by isis. the u.s.'s first line of defense against ieds, has been compromised. they denied the existence of the preventive security force and cnn has reached out to iran for comment but received no response. regardless, at the very least, these high profile captures of american hardware make them safer and harder to fight. our next stop is the mountain city where we're told an al qaeda linked militia is in possession of american weaponry. in these images obtained by cnn, you see the abbas militia and
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patrolling the streets. if that wasn't enough, also here awash with weaponry. arms markets are illegal in yemen. that hasn't stopped them from operating. using undercover cameras, we can see armed sales hidden among women's clothing shops. he doesn't do it today but we are told we can put in a special order for an american assault rifle. sellers like these are driving a black market for high-tech american weapons. that's just the tip of the iceberg. cnn was told by coalition forces that a deadlier u.s. weapon system was air-dropped in 2015 by saudi arabia to yemeni fighters, an air drop that was
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proudly proclaimed across saudi-backed media channels. where were they used and by whom? we try to find out. can you hear me? okay. we've been told that we can't go ahead with the entry we had pre-planned. this local government is under the edict of the local coalition and are completely blocking our access or ability to do any work. intimidation continue throughout that day and into the night. ultimately, we're chased out of town. but we still want to find out what happened. so we asked the u.s. department of defense whether they knew what happened to the u.s. anti-tank missiles. they say that despite saudi tv coverage they weren't even aware of the claim that the kingdom of saudi arabia used the tank missiles in yemen in october of
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2015. after cnn presented its findings to the dod, it says it has now launched an investigation. the saudi led coalition has not responded to calls for comment. a senior uae official denied to cnn they were in saying the giants brigade fight on the ground and are under our direct supervision. the u.s. dod statement to cnn added they did not authorize any transfer or any transfer of equipment to third parties. so far, we focused on the weapons fuelling the war here. but the seemingly endless conflict they sustain has also sparked a man-made catastrophe. just a short distance from the front lines, the human toll comes into full view.
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this is bashair. she's so malnourished she can't walk. her mother has to carry her everywhere. there are 200 cases like this just in this one village. the local clinic had to shut down. so when word that the doctor is here gets around, parents come out into the street to meet her. rula is 13 years old but looks far smaller. after the doctor finish es her check-up her father takes us into the village to meet other families. this is rahab. she's 2 years old. she's so severely malnourished her chest has begun to cave in.
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incredibly this is after she's started getting better. the doctors have been able to get her to keep some nutrition in. they are actually hopeful now. that hope depends on peace. how easy it is to get your hands on high tech u.s. weapons. how a swamp of uneasy alliances has led to sensitive u.s. weaponry ending up in both iranian and al qaeda-linked hands. how america's allies are making americans less safe. wherever and with whomever the weapons end up, the war goes on. ultimately it's the people who bear the brunt. u.s. weapons manufacture navistad didn't respond to our
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requests for comment. poppy and john? >> remarkable reporting. john and i gasped to see that 2-year-old who looks 5 months old because of the starvation. a few questions for you. first of all, the president has repeatedly justified u.s. arms sales to the saudis as recently as november he said the united states intends to remain a steadfast partner of saudi arabia to ensure the interests of our country. after you presented the administration with these findings, a defense official acknowledged to you that the department of defense is investigating the coalition arms sales and violations that may have occurred. how does that concern square with the assertion from the president that this is in the best interests of the u.s.? >> well, it's clear that it doesn't. it's incredibly telling that the department of defense now has two investigations, one off the back of the evidence we provided on the anti-tank missiles and
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one they had clearly been running into the actions of the coalition. what the president is saying publicly and what we are hearing from the department of defense from other administrative avenues within the u.s. holds of power are very different. there is a clear awakening within congress, within the aisles of u.s. lawmakers' offices that this is not tenable. that what the u.s. allies are doing is palpably impacting. >> the congress this week will push for the war powers resolution act, a new measure. how do you see that affecting arms sales to saudi arabia and the uae? >> our understanding is the next step after the war powers resolution comes through is we'll see another resolution specifically targeting sales. bob mendez, the senator from new jersey, is looking to put it forward. don't forget also that secretary
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