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>> for? >> i might talk about it the day before i vote. >> i think about it all the time. boy, we'd like to know how you think about it. congressman clyburn, thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> much more on the state of the union right now. [ applause ] >> an economic miracle is taking place and the only thing that can stop it, ridiculous partisan investigations. >> he's bridling under the democratic majority. we won't look the other way. >> the shutdown was a stunt engineered by the president of the united states. >> where walls go up, illegal crossings go way, way down. >> i thought it was a psychotically incoherent speech. he tries to put together warm, kind things and at the same time he's demonizing people. >> the president had one of the most historic speeches i can remember. >> i will get it built. >> there were a lot of signals to the base. >> what's his definition of
compromise? >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." it is wednesday, february 6. 8:00 here in washington, d.c. the morning after the state of the union address. alisyn is off and poppy harlow joins me. >> good morning. >> a new table majestically appears around us. president trump started and ended the state of the union address with a message of unity. in between, lots of times when he struck a different tone. of course this was his first address in a divided congress with nancy pelosi, the new house speaker literally staring over his shoulder. >> an economic miracle is taking place in the united states, and the only thing that can stop it are foolish wars, politics or ridiculous partisan
investigations. if there is going to be peace and legislation, there cannot be war and investigation. it just doesn't work that way. >> the loaded slow move into adam schiff. president trump renewed the wcal for a border wall but didn't issue new threats. >> in the democratic response stacey abrams denounced the president's policies on key issues -- immigration, gun safety, health care -- but caught the attention of many with this closing statement. >> so even as i am very disappointed by the president's approach to our problems, i still don't want him to fail.
but we need him to tell the truth and to respect his duties and respect the extraordinary diversity that defines america. >> joining us now, former ohio governor john kasich, former senior adviser to former president obama, david axelrod, cnn senior political reporter nia-maleeka henderson and david gregory. welcome. this is your first time being on with me. we are glad to are -- have you here. you talked about a test for the president. can he bend, reach out? what did you see? >> he touched his base with a number of things he said including the wall portions, the economy, cutting regulations. then i think he tried to reach out and, look, he scored a good score from the american people last night. what's interesting is even though the numbers were pretty good for the speech it doesn't seem like anybody became more
optimistic about the future. they're not saying, well, i think this will be a pattern, they can work together. i'm not hearing that. it's been a raucus two years -- understatement. one speech doesn't change that. his actions will have to belie his words. the most interesting test will be how they resolve immigration. >> the governor talked about the instant poll. over 60% approved of the president's message. what was notable about it was this was the most partisan audience he's had for a speech like this. 2-1 republican. it gets to the question, is there anyone's mind who can be changed at this point? david axelrod, i think the most interest iing framing of the address and the response is a curtain-raising to 2020. >> without question. we often underestimate donald trump.
it was easy to do it with the speech which i believe was poorly written and leadenly delivered. within that were the outlines of an argument for re-election. it's what you will hear. the economy, tough on trade, tough on immigration, getting america out of wars, forcing the europeans to pay their debt, and a portrayal of the democrats. once you set aside all of the embroidery about bipartisanship as socialists, radical on abortion, on borders, that's the campaign donald trump will run in 2020. >> nia, how do you think democrats responded? i don't just mean abrams. i mean responses without words. moments of sitting on hands, not applauding. how would you rate the democrats? >> there were moments of that. in some ways you could see nancy pelosi back there being the conductor of folks sitting
there, particularly the women in white. at one point they wanted to boo the president. she didn't want that to happen. she thinks the president should be treated with respect, the office should be respected even if he doesn't respect the office, in her words. she said that. the abrams response, she's in a red state. you could see her trying to come off as a moderator. republicans tried to paint her as an extremist on guns, for instance, immigration. i think she struck a nice tone, particularly in trying to reach out to working class folks, white working class voters is a segment of the population democrats didn't do well with in 2016. so, yeah. i think they are trying to obviously set up a contrast. not only in terms of policy and values, but even in terms of who represents the party. before they had white men doing the response to the state of the union. some democrats feel the energy is in people like stacey abrams.
>> what's important about what you are saying is the question of who speaks for us as americans. one of the reasons i believe president obama was elected is that americans got uncomfortable with the notion of president bush at that time speaking for americans on the world stage. there was dis comfocomfort with. the contrast is important. i agree with ax in this regard. the president has a strong economy. thankfully the country is at peace. he's at his best when uniting republicans whether it's hard line views on abortion or speaking out against socialism. he's effective and has been effective at uniting republicans. the specter of the mueller investigation is here. we have to allow for the possibility that the line, the idea of a ridiculous investigation will be vindicated in a lot of people's minds, depending on what the outcome is. he could be strengthened by this, not necessarily weakened by it. a lot of people watching the speech don't hear him in that level of depth on a big stage
like that where he's not engaging in erratic behavior and tweetstorming and all the rest. for people who are not parsing this the way we are, there was a lot there. >> i think you're right. i got text messages from friends, family in minnesota saying it's not a great look for the democrats. the president sounds measured here and some of them are sitting on their hands. >> when the socialism came up. >> they don't do this every day. >> what's interesting is when he reads from a teleprompter, it's the one time his staff can discipline him is when he has to stand in public and read off of a teleprompter. even last night when he ad libbed he got into deep water. for example he said at one point he was for more legal immigration than ever when the policy is to cut legal immigration in half. i'm sure that gave heartburn to his staff. the question is how much of what i call the embroidery, appeals to bipartisanship and so on,
appeal to people. i think there is heavy skepticism about that. just as there probably was skepticism when abrams said, i don't want him to fail. i'm not sure how many people believe that. we should feel that way, but i don't know how many democrats actually feel that way at this point. >> two years ago, i remember when the president made a state of the union. i was with some friends. when he delivered it two years ago people had a sigh of relief. oh, my goodness, he's not calling names. he stood up, acted like a president. last year it didn't go over as well. i don't know why that is. this year he tried to stick to the script. i think people in this country want politicians to work together and solve problems. they do. the question is where does this go? just one speech, one day, one night. now what? what happens now? i don't think he's had tweet this is morning. but if he's going back to attacking people, he'll double
down. >> to your point, two identification days ago he accused nancy pelosi of being responsible for deaths because of her views on immigration. he's not about multiplication. he's about division. division delivered the presidency to him. i don't think he'll change. >> the state of the union doesn't matter. it doesn't matter anymore. >> right. >> he's not selling the state of the union messages. he'll go back to doing what he does and where there can be cooperation that's mutually beneficial, you know, they'll do it. don't forget the president like after the midterms got up and said, i'll work with you, unless you continue with the investigations in which case i won't. that's really what he believes. >> i do think we should look for places there might be progress. is there some sort of policy place, whether it's paid family leave, infrastructure reform. like with criminal justice reform. >> drug -- >> drug prices.
this is something he touts all the time as a bipartisan accomplishment. >> that would be a smart political move. >> they should test him on it. >> absolutely. >> we had chuck schumer on last hour. he said infrastructure and drug pricing. will you do something? the senate majority leader said if the president is serious, he should come to us. >> one thing on infrastructure, it's easy. pass out public dollars. we have a $21 trillion debt. there are increasing numbers of americans who are becoming concerned about the debt. i'm telling you, david, i have seen it reflected in polls lately. just pass this bill. that's the easy one. i don't know what they'll do and what the outcry will be over the debt, but the hard one is the drug pricing. if, in fact, they can bring transparency, do some things to moderate drug prices, that's really hard on everybody. >> i think family leave is maybe where there can be
bipartisanship. think of ivanka trump for the face of that. she may want a win the way kushner pushed forward criminal justice with allies obviously. it is about how you pay for it. >> i was going to say it's how you pay for it. >> the predicate is no investigations. >> one of the things that struck me and some of this is looking backwards, given the way the president leaned on the economy and given how i think this was a curtain-raiser on 2020, it provided a window for me as to why he was so unsettled when the stock market was falling in december. >> who did he have dinner with this week? >> the fed chairman. if he doesn't have the economy to lean on, he's in trouble. >> a strong economy is hard for democrats to unseat him. when you have an incumbent with a good economy. he got spooked by the laguardia
thing when the planes weren't flying and when they said there is zero economic growth. >> he didn't want to admit it, but hasset said, yes, we could get there. a few days later we saw the president concede. >> one caveat on the economic issue is we do have uneven prosperity, uneven growth and regionally uneven. there are places in the country that haven't shared in this to the degree that others have. so you have to be a little bit measured about how you claim progress. he's not good at that. >> i think to that point, march 1 will tell us a lot. the impact of not reaching a trade deal with china could be enormous when it comes to the fallout for middle america in terms of manufacturing jobs, prices going up from 10% to 25%. >> they will end up with something. i don't think it will be the
major trade deal, the structural changes he talks about. do you know what i want to keep my eyes on? the independents. if you look at the midterm election we had, a lot of women, young people, independents moved against the republicans. the question is has he softened them up at all? he hasn't with one speech, but what does he do over time? if he loses them and he's stuck with the narrow base it's a campaign he has to run where he's tearing somebody else down and that's not going to be good for the country. >> i think that's where some of his policies he talked about last night -- hiv, childhood cancer, paid family leave. those are the kind of policies of independents, attract women as well. we should watch for those policies. >> thank you very much. a great discussion. >> great discussion. president trump defended his decision to with draw troops
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negotiations to reach, if possible, a political settlement in afghanistan. >> the president last night in the state of the union defending his decision to with draw u.s. troops from syria and afghanistan. with me this morning, independent senator angus king of maine. he serves in the intelligence and the armed services committee. let's begin on syria. the president chose not to repeat his false claim that isis had been defeated in syria. he did say, look, our soldiers deserve to come home. essentially, this has gone on long enough. does it encourage you that he didn't repeat the false statement, that he's listening to his generals? or are you concerned at the overarching message. >> he didn't repeat it which is a good thing. on the other hand, the problem is, as we heard testimony just yesterday in the armed services committee, there are between 20,000 and 30,000 members of isis. about 15,000 in syria and iraq. so clearly there is a threat
there. what worried me, two things worried me about his decision on syria. one was the process. as we learned yesterday in the armed services committee, he didn't even consult the general on the ground. >> for anyone who missed it, let's play that. this is the exchange between you and the general. >> general, were you aware of the president's intention to order the withdrawal of our troops from syria before that was publicly announced? >> i was not aware of the specific announcement. certainly we are aware that he had expressed a desire and intent in the past to depart iraq -- syria. >> you weren't consulted before that was announced? >> i was not consulted. >> two questions on that -- first, yes, it's shocking. does it concern you that given his statement it is clear the president is conducting foreign policy through a political prism and not through the advice or
counsel of his top generals? >> there is an old saying that a good process doesn't guarantee good results, but a bad process almost guarantees bad results. this was no process apparently. the president, as near as we can tell, didn't consult with anyone in the national security apparatus. it was a surprise to everyone. the second problem is the kurds. they have been literally taking bullets for us for five years. they have been our most steadfast ally. the turks can't wait to go after them. >> right. >> if we abandon the turks and let them be run over -- i'm sorry, abandon the kurds and let them be run over by the turks it will be a stain on this country's honor. secondly, who will help us next time? >> that's the reason. abandoning the kurds was the final straw for general mattis resigning. >> yeah. >> the second question we heard from the general there is now
what? after you heard that where does it leave us? yes, a senate resolution you voted for yesterday that was proposed by mitch mcconnell. >> of all people. >> to keep troops there. now what? >> you could tell from the other questions of the general that the military is doing what they do which is follow orders and do the best they can. they are working out a plan for withdrawal and trying to do it in a thoughtful way. they're sort of back-filling on a pronouncement that had no policy undergirding at the time. by the way, everybody wants to bring our troops home. the question is how do we do it and do we do it in such a way that doesn't get us in a worse condition. for example, isis comes back. isis reconstitutes and we have to go back in. it was just a precipitous decision that didn't have the support of anybody. >> what we did hear the president do is out loud condemn russia, condemn the actions of
russia by saying russia violated the inf. >> right. >> therefore, we are pulling out. significant to you? >> it was significant that he made the statement clearly that he justified pulling out of the inf because of that. there was a disturbing little one sentence there that really bothered me though. he said something about -- to the effect if other people are building missiles and bombs, we are going to outspend them. >> an arms race. >> it sounded -- in my notes i said, arms race. >> let's talk about 2020. yes, you are an independent. you caucus with democrats. it is a crowded field already. >> crowded? >> we know amy klobuchar will make a decision on 2020 this sunday. some see her as more centrist than a lot who have jumped insofar. which direction do you believe the democratic party needs to go in to defeat president trump? >> you're asking the wrong -- >> i'm asking the independent. >> that's their business, come on. >> how to attract independents.
howard schultz may run as a centrist independent. >> well, that's about 40% of the country. the parties are roughly 30, 30 and then a majority are unenrolled. particularly young people. >> there is a reason an independent has never won. ross perot came the closest with a little over 19%. those are the numbers schultz points to, 40% of independents. do you believe those who identify as independent will abandon their party when push comes to shove and vote for an independent? are you glad to see howard schultz get in the race? >> i don't want to comment on that. it's too early. it's funny, the independents aren't a party. by definition, they are leaning right, left. they align sometimes with some parties and sometimes others. there is an interesting fact about the 2016 election. 63 million people voted for hillary clinton. about 60 million voted for donald trump. 100 million didn't vote.
that's an amazing number. >> it's a sad statement about the country. >> it is a statement about our civic engagement. it is also a statement about there are a lot of votes there to be gotten if somebody can reach out. >> why don't you want to comment on howard schultz if he runs as a centrist independent? look at the democrats who jumped in already. many of them to the far left which is why he's left the democratic party and said, i can't run in this party. >> i think having more voices in the campaign and somebody in the center is probably a good thing. the mechanics of it are difficult. the way our electoral system works is except for maine or nebraska, every state is winner take all. one more vote in pennsylvania you get all the pennsylvania electoral votes. the question is what would the role of an independent be in that election. perot, interestingly, the polls afterwards said -- the conventional wisdom is he beat george bush. 36% would have voted for bush.
36% would have voted for clinton. 24% wouldn't have voted. so the idea that an independent will draw from one or the other of the parties i don't think is really there. >> when you dig into the polling and take him out it was 42-43 bush to clinton. we appreciate you being here. >> absolutely. >> thank you. john? >> senator elizabeth warren dogged again by new revelations about her heritage just days before formally jumping in the 2020 race. why is she apologizing again? next. ♪ introducing le vian links of love, only at jared. visit jared.com for $100 off any le vian purchase.
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senator elizabeth warren from massachusetts is apologizing again after new revelations about her heritage or claims she's made about her heritage. "the washington post" obtained warren's texas state bar registration form from 1986 where she wrote that her race was -- i think the word she used -- american indian is there. joining us now, david chalian
and mj, first to you. you have done reporting on this in the last 24 hours. what exactly is going on here? >> "the washington post" has reported on a new example that we didn't know about previously of a time when elizabeth warren wrote that her racial identity, her racial background was indian-american. you know, this is an example and here is actually the visual of that. she was actually at the university of texas back in the 1980s. american indian, if i said indian-american, i meant american indian. in the past we weren't sure. she hasn't given a clear answer. "the washington post" did a good job laying out whether the senator herself was involved in the various forms she's filled out in identifying her as such, but this makes it clear that this is in her own writing and
her team is not disputing the authenticity of the form. they are also not disputing that this is her own handwriting. i think, john, it is clear that her team has not figured out how to handle this. i think a lot of this has to do with the fact that this is a very sensitive issue where they have had to tread lightly. at every turn of this, there is not a perfect solution or a way for them to get out of this political mess for them. whether it was, you know, people calling on her to take the dna test, whether it was people really viewing the video and the release of the test as a flop and the whole apology last week. again, i think this is not an issue that's going away for her because it is a difficult issue for her to handle. there is not a clear answer on how to deal with this. >> there are two things going on here. number one the process question of how she's handling this.
but this story in those words -- american indian -- which she signed herself get to the substance. >> no doubt about it. it's race and she wrote in american indian. this is the problem. this has now been six years. it's six years she's been battling this charge against her. as you know in the fall she took the dna test. then she had to apologize to the cherokee nation. she did so again a few days ago. she said she's sorry she's not making clear enough the difference between ancestry and membership of a tribal nation. she understands that's different. if you are just a couple of days before your formal launch of your presidential campaign and you are still apologizing for something you have been answering about for six years it's fair to say you have not positioned yourself in a way to put this behind you as you begin to launch your presidential
campaign. >> not behind you at all. it's front and center constantly here. >> no lesson learned from hillary clinton and the e-mail debacle and when you are explaining, you're losing. >> the way elizabeth warren and her team around her have said and mj alluded to this. so many people hammered her, political opponents and others, to take the dna test. she took it. that didn't solve this. >> right. >> i don't think anybody thought it would. it was a box she checked she thought she could point to and move on. the big question is how many other forms are out there where she may have filled this out. is this texas registration form is last of this or does the campaign know if anything else is out there and anticipating something else. >> as you look at this and the size of the democratic field, the challenge for elizabeth warren will be there are a lot of other choices out there. if you are a democratic voter and you like the message that elizabeth warren is delivering, maybe you can find that in a
package which doesn't have as many question marks or, you know, doesn't have this explaining or apologizing. >> that's right. one thing i would note about this texas bar registration is that one note they are making -- the warren team is making is that this was not anything to do with the application to the bar. this was a form she filled out after she was already admitted to the bar. obviously an important distinction, however, i don't know if this is a distinction that's going to actually sink in for the average person tuning in and out of the headlines of 2020. i think the point is up for the people who may already be inclined to question her motives here, for the people who might be already seeing this as an example of elizabeth warren having been dishonest or, you know, having used this to try to further her career in a way that doesn't sit well with them, this
example regardless of sort of the details of the form and regardless of the fact that her team says this had nothing to do with her entrance to the bar, i think this is just going to cement certain people who are already inclined to view her negatively. >> very quickly, david. beto, sort of opened the door yesterday to iran. amy klobuchar saying she'll announce something on sunday. >> in her home state of minnesota. i don't know that there is much mystery there. when beto o'rourke got on stage with oprah we got timing from him. an announcement at the end of the month. it sounds like he's actively in the final stages of coming to a decision about potentially running. >> this is going to get interestinger and interestinger as they say in "alice in wonderland." thank you very much. >> new word for today. president trump suggested he would welcome many legal immigrants. in fact, more than ever before he says his policies show that's
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all right, president trump says he wants more immigrants entering the united states as long as they come here legally. that's what he said in the state of the union last night. does that mean the trump administration has been good for the rights of legal immigrants? john avlon with an important reality check. what he said was so different a departure from the policy of his own administration. >> let's dig in. one important part of the president's speech wasn't supposed to be part of the speech. >> i want people to come into our country in the largest numbers ever, but they have to come in legally. >> that middle part "largest numbers ever" was an ad lib and he should have stuck to the script. we know the trump administration is obsessed with illegal immigration but it is also in a quiet war with legal immigration. he's blasted chain migration
where family members follow each other legally into the country despite the fact that the first lady's family is here that way. the administration made it harder to get even visitor visas. he's curtailed visas for same-sex partners of foreign diplomats, dramatically reduced the number of refugees seeki ii asylum here and is trying to deport vietnamese war refugees who have been here for decades. what's behind this? former trump staffer cliff sims new book quotes steven miller saying, i would be happy if not a single refugee foot ever again touched american soil. when the president said he wants more people to come to our country in the largest numbers ever, don't believe the hype. then this irony. while the president blasted socialism he denounced government domination and control. so the president plans to use m
eminent domain to take land for parts of his border wall. nothing like seizing private property for a government goal. that's your reality check. >> the words he says, the words he means to say, and then what the words actually mean. all right, john, appreciate it. thank you very much. pope francis acknowledging for the first time priests and bishops have sexually abused nuns in the roman catholic church. nuns have been making abuse accusations in italy, latin america, india and africa. the pope says though the vatican is working on the issue, more needs to be done. >> embattled virginia governor ralph northam's former medical school classmates are coming saying they fully believe he's not one of the individuals in the racist photo on his yearbook page. they add they don't believe the governor ever condoned racism. cnn interviewed a yearbook staffer who said photos on personal pages were chosen by the individual student.
meantime, the woman accusing virginia's lieutenant governor of sexual assault 15 years ago is meeting with lawyers in washington to figure out her next step. a source tells cnn vanessa tyson felt she had to take action when she saw the news about northam and worried fairfax could be governor of virginia. he calls it fabricated. >> here's what to kwach today. . all right. ahead, one of the special guests
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mentored many of his fellow inmates. now matthew is the very first foreign be releesased from pris under the first step act. [ cheers and applause ] >> what a moment, matthew charles is with me now, such a pleasure to have you. >> thank you for having me. >> january 3 was the beginning of the rest of your life. >> yes, it was. >> and then you end up at the state of the union last night. what was that moment for you like, matthew, when the president said -- and i know it struck me watching -- welcome home. >> it was amazing. it was like almost equivalent to being released from prison because the welcome home was on born with giving me a second chance was just amazing here. >> do you feel welcomed? >> i do. much so.
>> a lot of people don't know, their first introduction to you was last night, but you went to the white house last week before the state of the union to meet with some members of congress. >> that's correct. >> tell me about that. >> last week we were invited to meet some of the sponsors of the first step act and we went over to the senate as well as to the congress and met some supporters and sponsors of the bill and we were invited to the white house to meet jared kushner but was supportive and instrumental in getting the bill passed. >> he was telling me that he was thanking me for me to utilize my story to present that the bill should be passed to get the inmates a second chance. so i was pleased that he had use mid-situation. >> you have a daughter. 33-year-old daughter. two grandchildren, one of them a three-year-old little girl? three-year-old boy and a 13-year-old girl. >> can't get that wrong. >> what do you want to do with the rest of your life.
>> well, my heart's passion is to help the poor and the homeless and single parent families. god has instilled that in me along with my transformation in 1996 so that is one of my primary focuses but the ability to have a platform to speak about criminal justice reform since i was incarcerated, i want to speak on behalf of those that have also changed that don't have thin speaking on that behalf. >> tell me about the work you're doing on that front because you wrote an opinion piece in the "washington post," the headline "i was released under the first step act, here's what congress should do next." and your push is for pham leads against &tory minumandatory min. >> yes, i heard about that organization when i first entered the federal prison in 1996 and miss mary price was the founder of it but i wasn't familiar with the organization
as far as personal. now that i see they still are trying to get the laws changed so that the punishment will be an equivalent to the crime i want to continue to speak and use that organization as well. >> what do you hope will be the next step. this is called the first step act. if you had your druts, what would the second step act be? >> the second step act would be something along the lines where there are many that are still incarcerated that the first step act won't apply to. so the the second step should be to see if they can come up with something which i have an ideology. >> what's your idea. >> if a person is beyond a 15-year period that the court be allowed to reassess that person
based on his rehabilitation since he's been incarcerated as well as his conduct. >> and do you mean -- in your opinion on drug charges which overwhelmingly affects african-americans in this country. do you mean violent offenders? >> no, just non-violent offenders. those that have received extensive sentences for non-violent crimes. >> you wrote "i got lucky, your justice system should not depend on luck." and you served in the military. >> yes. >> before you were incarcerated. so what is the single-most important thing for that could change so that it's not about luck? that you won't be the rarity? what would have to change. >> that say for instance if wherever a person is sentence the judge has a right to say i'll give you this sentence because the federal sentencing guidelines require it or mandatory minimum requires it but i'll have your case reviewed or your sentence reviewed in 15
years to see if you've been rehabilitated. >> let me ask you one question. yes, you're out and you get to start a new life but an issue for many inmates is jobs. how has that been for you? getting employment, integrating back into society. >> when i was first released in 2016 i went through an organization called project retu return. but there's not a lot of that because nashville has a population that has seized 500,000 but in small areas or cities and towns that don't have the financial ability to do that something needs to be put in place for those as well because people are being released from federal and state prison going any state and city in america. so i was fortunate enough to go through that program which helped get job skills and find a
job. so there are job opportunities in nashville. that's the reason i elected to go. >> that keeps recidivism down if you have a job and a goal everyday. matthew charles, thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> nice to meet you. appreciate it. >> great to hear from people whose lives have been changed by bipartisan sh bipartisanship. we are expecting to hear from senior democrat leadership very shortly. their reaction and what they intend to do going forward. stick around.
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oral-b. brush like a pro. good wednesday to you. i'm jim sciutto in washington. the state of the union is -- bipartisan? the president is hailing compromise as a government shutdown looms in just nine days. in his 82-minute state of the union speech to a sharply divided congress, an address he had to postpone because of the previous shutdown, the president gave no ground on a wall, offered no concessions notely to democrats and flew a warning against, quote, ridiculous investigations of him, his administration, his businesses, his campaign. take a listen. >> an economic miracle is taking place in the united states and the only thing that can stop it are foolish ,