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you're live in the cnn newsroom. thanks for rolling with me. i'm ana cabrera in new york. the money runs out in five days. this deadlock, unlike the first one, the president has no intention of owning. he believes the democrats want this shutdown. three sources tell cnn that border negotiations were on track toward an agreement this weekend and now they're questioning if a deal can happen and whether backup plans should now be in place. some of the sources say talks have not completely fallen apart but there are two key sticking points that continue to get in the way, funding for a border wall and the lesser known cap on detention beds for i.c.e. the president is going to el
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paso, texas, tomorrow trying to push border wall funding and his re-election. what are he and the white house doing to avoid shutdown? >> ana, there's no indication that the president or his team are trying any new routes to get democrats to sign off a proposed bill to not only keep the government open but sign his version. he went after them, saying therch acting irrationally. i should point out his acting chief of staff, mick muchlt lvaney took to the morning talk show tas, making it clear there are a number of possibilities on the table. he did not rule out a second government shutdown or executive action on behalf of the president to secure funding for his border wall that way. he did also say a deal was still possible. although that seems unlikely at this point, there are law measurings out there who are optimistic and holding on to
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hope. listen to this. >> i certainly hope we're not headed for another shutdown. i think the president has been clear and the republicans in the house have certainly been clear we've absolutely got to secure the border. i'm hopeful this committee will be able to come up with a proposal we can all support, that the president can sign. >> we are not to a point where we can announce a deal. negotiations are still going on. there are good people on this committee. i have confidence that, hopefully, we'll get something done very soon. >> lizzy cheney and jon tester weighing in there. we should point out, sources have told cnn that if talks do fall apart, democrats already have a plan b. they suggested that in the house of representatives, democrats would present the bill that would keep the government open and fund the department of homeland security through september. the question now, if that does pass, is whether republicans in the senate would actually sign off on that, let alone if the president would sign off on it, if it ever reaches his desk,
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ana. >> boris sanchez at the white house for us. thank you. i spoke to john garamendi and he thinks this group of 17 bipartisan negotiators will get the job done. >> i spent a good portion of the weekend with some colleagues on the republican side, as we toured one of the key american bases here within the united states. they have absolutely no appetite for a shutdown and neither do the democrats. we don't want a shutdown. we want to work this out, and we will. there's a lot of huffing and puffing going on now, but there's a very clear path to get this done. >> republicans say democrats keep moving the goal post. >> well, everybody is moving the goal post here as they go through all the -- what i call huffing and puffing and pushing each other around. but the reality is that we already, last year, agreed to 1.6 billion for border security. now exactly what that border
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security is is, obviously, under contention. i do know this. we should never give any administration any money until it tells us precisely where it intends to use that money, for what purpose, why it's effective, why it's efficient at that particular place and how are they going to build it? what's it going to cost? those key element elements ought to be in any bill, whatever the money might be. we'll get apast those issues. we really should. we must. this nation does not need, and there's not a politician in washington that can withstand another 35-day shutdown or even a one-day shutdown. >> when it comes to the wall specifically, president trump's acting chief of staff mick mu mulvaney said if there's a deal but it doesn't have the funds that he is asking for he will get it without congress. listen. >> you cannot take a shutdown off the table and you cannot
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take 5.7 off the table but if you end up somewhere in the middle, you'll see the president say, yeah, okay. i'll look for the money somewhere else. >> are the two the same or different? do you find money without declaring a national emergency or do you need to declare the national emergency to find this other money? >> the question is both. >> the trump administration has a plan b, maybe even a plan c. do democrats? >> well, absolutely. i'm introducing a bill so that plan b doesn't happen. there's no way we're going to allow the president to take over the power of congress to appropriate money. there will be a lawsuit immediately, particularly if the legislation does not provide or there is no legislation providing money for a border wall. no president, this or any other president, has the power to appropriate money on their own. under an emergency declaration, there are things that the president can do. but mulvaney is talking about
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going after the disaster recovery money that has been already appropriated by congress for places like florida, texas, california, where the hurricanes were, for fires as well as for the other places in the united states. now if the president thinks he is going to go rip off money that is there to help recover american communities and states from multiple disasters, he's in for a big political headache. we will introduce a bill tomorrow to prohibit that. it's a 1986 provision. never been used. and it does, under an emergency. now what is the emergency? a bunch of mothers and children trying to cross the border, legally? seeking asylum? is that an emergency? i don't think so. >> i know republicans don't agree with this idea of going forward with a national emergency declaration. you're on the house armed services committee as we
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mentioned. on friday the white house missed the deadline, whether they hold saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman responsible for the murder of washington post journalist jamal khashoggi. >> the arm sales to saudi arabia require congressional approval -- authority then approval. all those things are in play. we will take action. there clearly has to be a punishment for what has happened here. there's more and more evidence that the crown prince himself was directly involved. sanctions are possible. we could move sanctions through the congress. that probably would require the president to sign on to that. but there are must-pass pieces of legislation that would deal with that. bottom line of this is that we should, as a nation, countenance
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or cozy up to anyone who has done such a horrible, terrible thing as such as happened to this journalist. senator elizabeth warren and amy klobuchar making it official and warren even picked up a couple of endorsements from senator kennedy and ed markey. are you ready to endorse someone? >> no, i'm not. we have terrific candidates running, three women from the u.s. senate, one happens to be a californian that i know very well. this thing will sort itself out. obviously there will be a whole lot more players on the field before this gets down to the elimination rounds. >> we do a lot of polling with democratic voters to find out what's important to them. what is the number one thing that will determine who you ultimately decide to get behind? >> about half a dozen things. i'll go through them quickly. are they really prepared to deal
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with climate change? are they prepared to get beyond the rhetoric and down into the weeds about what we can do? are they prepared to be strong internationally and backfill from the terrible troubles that the current president has caused with our international relationship, particularly with our allies? i want to make sure that they are full in on education at every level. and i want to make sure that they care about the middle class, that they have programs that will help the middle class. all of them are capable, at least from what i've seen thus far. they're able to articulate and show the leadership necessary, they'll have my endorsement. >> john garamendi for us. >> the democratic field continues to expand as senator amy klobuchar greets a crowd amid heavy snowfall and frigid temperatures.
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race for the white house, 2020. add one more democrat to the field of declared candidates who want to face president trump next year. >> hello, everyone! >> minnesota senator amy klobuchar made her official entry into the presidential race this afternoon. she proclaimed herself a candidate for the white house in a very snowy, subfreezing day in the twin cities. >> i am running for every american. i am running for you. and i promise you this. as your president, i will look you in the eye. i will tell you what i think. i will focus on getting things done. that's what i've done my whole life. and no matter what, i'll lead from the heart. >> cnn's suzanne malveaux is
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live in minneapolis. that was the most minnesotan way to announce your candidacy. >> under heavy snow when she originally kicked off the race. her main message was that she was going to bring heart and the heartland and focused on the midwest region that many democrats feel was neglected back in 2016. senator amy klobuchar, jumping into the 2020 waters, making the announcement along the mississippi river in her home state of minnesota. >> let us cross the river of our divides and walk across our sturdy bridge to higher ground. >> the 58-year-old third-term senator talked up her heartland heritage and her ability to get things done. >> i will look you in the eye.
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i will tell you what i think and no matter what, i'll lead from the heart. >> reporter: klobuchar joins an increasingly crowded field including cory booker and kamala harris. it is from that committee perch last fall that klobuchar captured the national spotlight with her questioning of then supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh. >> you say there's never been a case where you drank so much that you didn't remember what happened the night before or part of what happened? >> you're asking about a blackout. i don't know. have you? >> the exchange for which kavanaugh later apologized went viral. >> could you answer the question, judge? that's not happened? is that your answer? >> yeah. and i'm curious if you have. >> i have no drinking problem, judge. >> reporter: klobuchar later said she was stunned by the
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moment and later she discussed growing up with an alcoholic father. >> he finally got treatment and is sober. with 60% of the vote in 2016, winning 42 counties carried by donald trump in 2016. >> you go where it is uncomfortable, not just where it's comfortable. and that's how we'll win the midwest. >> a graduate of yale university, klobuchar interned for walter mondale. >> i thank vice president mondale who is here with us, a mentor to me. >> reporter: mondale's choice of rung mate, geraldine ferraro, opened her eyes to the future of women in politics. >> for me, it was a moment when i knew that anything and everything was possible for women in the united states of america. >> reporter: in 1998, klobuchar
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was elected attorney as the most populous county. eight years later she became the first woman elected to represent the state in the u.s. senate. >> i left minnesota with our husband and our daughter and loaded up our saturn with our college dishes and a shower curtain from 1985. >> reporter: on capitol hill, klobuchar has partnered with republicans on issues such as online privacy, workplace harassment and prescription drug costs, earning respect across the aisle. bipartisan credentials klobuchar hopes will give her an advantage in the campaign to come. >> the president wasting no time in reacting to her jumping into the race tweeting that amy klobuchar talked proudly fighting global warming while standing in a virtual blizzard of snow, ice and freezing temperatures. bad timing.
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by the end of her speech she looked like a snowman/woman. klobuchar saying science is on my side, real donald trump looking forward to debating you about climate change and other issues and i wonder how your hair would fare in a blizzard and there's a snow marn emoji. ana? >> suzanne malveaux, braving the cold temperatures. thank you for being a warrior. we appreciate it. senator elizabeth warren, barnstorming iowa today, one day after officially announcing her 2020 bid. she's taking a few jabs at the president. >> by the time we get to 2020, donald trump may not even be president. in fact, he may not even be a free person.
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>> the massachusetts senator also doubled down on saying trump is racist. >> senator warren, you said bigotry has no place in the white house. some of your democratic colleagues have straight up come out and said president trump is racist. are you willing to say that? is he a racist? >> i've already said that many times. go back and look at the tapes. i don't think there's much doubt about that. >> those comments come a day after trump mocked warren over her ongoing american native controversy. >> will she run as the first native american president candidate or has she decided after 32 years that this is not playing so well anymore? amy klobuchar becomes the latest democrat to believe she can beat donald trump. ryan lizza joins us now. the last democratic candidate
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from minnesota, walter mondale, got crushed. how can she expect to win so many parts of the midwest that went to donald trump? >> hillary clinton came within 70,000 votes of winning the election. she flipped 70,000 votes in wisconsin, minnesota and pennsylvania, she would be president. it's razor thin. and klobuchar going at that electability issue in her speech today. smart consultants in the democratic party believe the upper midwest should be the focus for the democrats come general election time, not the southwest, not the sun belt but the midwest. and she has a track record of success there. so very different than mondale, who lost 49 states and only won
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minnesota. >> let's move on to elizabeth warren. you saw her blunt warning, that president trump might not even be a free person come 2020. maybe a change in strategy, taking him on so directly. >> yeah. >> what does that tell you? >> the cynical part of me says maybe she's been in a little bit of a tough series of news cycles over the story that has dogged her for a while now about her -- how she has or hasn't used her lack of native american heritage, right? and i thought maybe she was trying to get past that, trying to move -- look, attacking trump or trump attacking you is the best thing that happens to a democratic candidate, right? i'm sure amy klobuchar was very excited when she saw trump tweeted at her and attacked her. there's nothing better for a democrat. the democratic party is -- there are a lot of differences in the democratic party. one thing it is defined by, obviously, is anti-trumpism.
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that's always a blessing to a candidate, to have something like that. and i think maybe elizabeth warren was trying to take the fight a little bit more to donald trump to change the news that's been dogging her recently. >> i wonder if his attack, because he hasn't attacked every candidate that's jumped in, means something. >> great point. >> does he see these two women as a big threat? >> that's a great point. look, if you're not getting attack bid donald trump, what are you doing wrong, right? really, he has gone after elizabeth warren since before people were even sure she was going to run for president. there's something about elizabeth warren that has him a little worried or obsess ed. he obviously understands politics. so i think the people that he sees as somewhat threatening get a little bit more of a vicious tweet. i think as a democratic candidate, you have to worry
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when he's not attacking you. >> which seems so strange, right? >> it means he's not scared of you, right? >> that may be what it is. we'll see. let's contrast, though, with what warren said with cory booker's approach. listen to him. >> i'm not here to try to emulate the tactics of a president. i'm not trying to match him ugly comment for ugly comment, bashing for bashing. i'm focusing on the people. >> is that smart strategy, considering how much rage there is in the democratic party toward the president? >> i thought that was one of the more interesting comments right now because there is this tactical debate playing out in the democratic party of how -- how much do you askew the tactics of trump, don't take the bait and make sure that all of your communications, speeches, social media does not mirror what he does, right? and there are other candidates
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who are saying no, you have to come right back at him the same way he comes at us. booker is trying to argue that may create a race to the bottom. and he's betting that democrats don't want a replica of donald trump. they want a replacement. and i think that tactical debate is going, we'll see that for the next two years play out among democrats. there is a danger, frankly, of, you know, emulating the president sort of bringing politics down into the gutter and, you know, it works for trump, it won't necessarily work for everyone else. >> it's that question about authenticity, right? if you can't do it, be yourself in doing it, does it really work? we saw a lot of gop candidates having a hard time, going toe to toe and get in the mud. >> remember when marco rubio tried to do his stand-up routine?
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>> right. >> he has said, acknowledged he regretted it. it didn't work for him, because it's not authentic to who he is. >> didn't work for him. didn't work for jeb bush. i do want to bring up one thing that's backward looking. it was 12 years ago, barack obama launched his presidential campaign. hillary clinton started early in the 2008 race but she waited to launch her 2016 bid. i bring those former presidential candidates up because of timing. the question of timing. when is it too late for other democrats to get in? we already have almost double digit number who have said they are running. have those who haven't gotten in, bernie sanders, joe biden, beto o'rourke, have they lost the staffers and the money they would need? >> i think the more well known you are, the later you can jump in the race. you want to lock up the donors and the staffers early if you're a little less well known.
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if you are hillary clinton, you can probably wait a little longer. i think all indications are that she's not going to run but there will be a moment as this primary plays out and the candidates start attacking each other, and some candidates stumble and is there will be early departures as there always are. there's always a moment in the fall where candidates have been at each other so long that the voters start to look around and say is this all we have? is there anyone else that can jump in? that's when you start to see a second or third wave by then, of candidates who didn't jump in early and rethink it. bill clinton, in 1990 -- he entered the race in october of 1991. now, that's a long time ago, but -- >> in october? >> october of '91. just a few months before. yeah. the general thinking is, though, the earlier the better if you're not that well known. >> all right.
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ryan lizza, we've got a long ways to go. it will be interesting to see the twists and turns along the way. thank you for being here. >> thanks, ana. >> live pictures of elizabeth warren. she's hitting the ground running in the first days of her campaign. defiance and denial. how do virginia voters feel about this? we're live in richmond next. and saying, "really?" so we built capital one cafes, with savings and checking accounts you can open from here in 5 minutes. this is banking reimagined. what's in your wallet? when did sleep become something that requires effort, like an obstacle we have to overcome every single night? with tempur-pedic, it doesn't. and now is the best time to experience the most advanced pressure-relieving material we've ever created. so you get the deepest sleep you've had in your entire life. this presidents day, save up to $500
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still no sense of how the chaos in virginia state capital will get sorted out as the state's top three elected officials fight for their political lives.
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ralph northam embroiled in black face scandals and justin fairfax is defending himself against sexual assault allegations by two women. in a new interview, governor northam says he wants to help heal the state. >> there's no better person to do that than a doctor. virginia needs someone who is strong, has empathy, who has courage and who has a moral compass. that's why i'm not going anywhere. >> cnn's kaylee hartung joins us from richmond. he thinks he can heal the pain there in virginia. are this comments helping or hurting? >> reporter: he is not a career politician. as you just heard him there, he's a doctor. today in a conversation with cbs, there was an awkward moment as he tried to put this past
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painful week in the context of virginia's complicated history of racial division. listen here. >> what has been a difficult week. if you look at virginia's history we're now at the 400-yearanniversary, just 90 miles from here in 1619 the first indentured servants from africa landed on our shores in old point comfort, what we call now ft. monroe. >> also known as slavery. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i spoke with one politically engaged virginia voter today who says he saw that moment as an unartful attempt by northam to use less offensive language in putting this all into context. ana, when you listen to that conversation on a larger scale, you see he's trying to speak to virginians, the people who put him into office, the same people
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who don't like to remember their past even though this week has brought to the surface a not so distant past. >> there are those willing to testify at an impeachment hearing. is that where this is going? >> democrat patrick hope said first thing tomorrow morning he will introduce articles of impeachment. he shared a resolution with democrats today. in it he outlines his reasoning for wanting to pursue impeachment. we're just receiving a response from justin fairfax in response to this. he believes an inherent political process is not the most likely path for learning the truth but the lieutenant governor is confident in the truth that will emerge from an independent, impartial
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investigation. introduction of these articles of impeachment tomorrow just the first step in a long process in order for this resolution to be brought to a vote, the speaker of the house has to support it and that republican speaker has not confirmed he will do so. ana? are you feeling the financial squeeze this tax season? you're not alone. refunds have fallen an average of 8%. our money expert explains why next. th esurance. including me, esurance spokesperson dennis quaid. he's a pretty good spokesperson. ehhh. so when i say, "drivers who switched from geico to esurance saved an average of $412," you probably won't believe me. hey, actor lady whose scene was cut. hi. but you can believe this esurance employee, nancy abraham. seriously, send her an email and ask her yourself. no emails... no emails. when insurance is affordable, it's surprisingly painless. you don't need to go anywhere dad,
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compared to $2,035 last year. chris burns is here to break it down for us. wasn't tax reform supposed to provide tax relief? >> yeah. first of all, let's admit it's terrible. when you think you're going to get all this money back, you already have plans for it right? folks already knew they're going to put a down payment on a house, they're going to pay off that debt. this is really hard for a lot of people. but to understand why it happened, you have to actually walk back last year this time and remember at that point treasury was running around, trying to figure out how in the world do we implement this thousand-plus tax change that's just been passed by congress? one of the big pieces of that was changing the whole withholding system, okay? back last february, a lot of people -- most americans saw some sort of little bump to their payroll. and for a lot of people, it was so small, it was almost laughable. if you made $70,000 a year, your average increase was about $40 a
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paycheck. for most folks, that was throwaway money. they didn't even really notice it, right? >> an extra dinner out. >> i'm sorry? oh, yeah, exactly. it's an extra dinner out, night at the movies, whatever it is. if you take that over the course of a year, that's $1,000, right? the hard reality of this -- this is not easy -- is that most people, even though it feels like they've made less money, because that tax return is 8% -- the refund is 8% lower, they may have actually made more money over the course of the year, but it was so spread out, they don't notice it. when they get a few hundred dollars less on the refund it feels like a punch in the gut. >> that does explain a lot. doesn't necessarily mean that people aren't taking home more money but if somebody is getting this and, as you point out, has already spent the money they thought they were going to get in their refund, because they didn't make the can calculations adjustment in their own head. >> sure. >> or planning, what should they
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do now to adjust moving forward? >> okay. so this is a tough question. a lot of people won't like me answer here, i'll tell you in advance. one thing you can do, you could go and you could change your withholding again and give the irs more of your money and next year you'll get that refund again. if you miss that refund and say that's what i was banking on, you could easily change that and get the refund again. we have to go back to this idea of what is a tax refund? over 70% of americans get a refund. like you said the average is over $2,000 a person. something so many people are banking on. what is it? imagine this for a minute. if you were to go to the grocery store, say, to buy milk and you paid $10 extra. i don't know why, they just overcharged you. and every time you went all year you paid an extra $10. then at the end of the year they came back and said hey, we are so sorry. you overpaid us $1500 a year for
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milk, we'll send you a check. would your response be this is amazing? or would you go why in the world did i overpay you all year? we're so used to giving the irs extra money that's not theirs. i don't earn interest on it. i don't have access to it. they just sit on it. let me tell you, the irs is good at a lot of things but they're not a good babysitter and they're just babysitting your money. >> so maybe it's not so bad. chris burns, thank you for the tax insight tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. coming up, taking a backseat. prince philip surrenders his driver's license as investigators weigh charges after a january crash. when you book at hilton.com, you get the price match guarantee. so if you find your room at a lower rate, hilton is like... we're gonna match that rate and give you an extra 25% off. what would travel sites do if you found a different price? that's not my problem, it's your problem. book at hilton.com and get the hilton price match guarantee.
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actor rob lowe is facing backlash after what he calls a joke fell flat. lowe took a shot at massachusetts senator elizabeth warren after her announcement she's running for president. he posted this on twitter. "elizabeth warren would bring a whole new meaning to commander in chief" with "chief" in quotation marks. lowe deleted that tweet after a tidal wave of angry backlash. he then tweeted "it was a joke and some peeps got upset." prince philip turned in his driver's license as part of a fallout from a january crash. cnn's anna koren has more from london. >> reporter: it's been a little over three weeks since prince
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philip was involved in this car accident, a shocking collision that everyone was very fortunate to be able to walk away from. the police have been investigating it, like they would any other car accident, and have now passed on the file to the crown prosecution service, who will now decide whether or the most likely charge would be driving without due care of consideration. that could lead to a fine plus points object a diving license or disqualification. it's voluntarily surrendered his driving license and that will be taken into consideration by the cps and all of this. now one of the ladies involved in the accident from the other car has spoke ton british tabloid today welcoming the news that prince phillip surrendered his license and said he could have done it sooner. it must have been a difficult decision for prince phillip. he retired from public life two years ago and always valued his
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independence and he's a keen driver. often seen behind the wheel over the years. he will have to put up with being driven from now on and await the decision as to whether he will be summoned to court. >> thank you. i got my anna's mixed up. coming up, a look inside facebook. how the company's growth has also brought tremendous problems. i've got to tell you something. with the capital one venture card you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, every day. not just airline purchases? everything. hey, how'd you get in here? cross-checking. nice. what's in your wallet... oh, c'mon!
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it started as a college experiment and now 15 years later, facebook is a tech giant. with more than 2 billion users worldwide. but as with all 15-year-olds the company has had its share of growing pains and missteps from
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massive data breaches to concerns about user privacy, it hasn't been smooth sailing. we have a rare inside look at the tech giant. here's a et preview. >> it's october 19th, 2018. we are head iing to facebook. this is a really big deal. we're going to sit down with mark zuckerberg, who rarely sits down for interviews. >> facebook years are like dog years. a lot happens in a little time. in the months since i first walked through these doors. >> 50 million facebook users have been targeted by. hackers. the largest security breach in facebook history. >> facebook on the defensive today. suffering a damning report about how facebook handled bad pr. >> we'll get to all that later. but for now, back to facebook
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and what you need to know about an interview with mark zuckerberg. >> first, he likes a room cold. very cold. during the turn the cameras around and you'll see his people on the other side taking notes, skrushling, keeping time. they know the stakes are high these days. the whole world seems to be watching. and that's facebook in its current moment. >> thank you. >> massively influential. >> mark zuckerberg under fire. >> in flocks the biggest security breach in the history of facebook. >> and controversial. but to fully understand facebook of today, you have to go back to the beginning. >> there you go. there's your teaser. lori seagull is joining us. this is your baby. you have had incredible access and insight into facebook's world.
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when you pull ed back that curtain, you were there during the height of the most recent scandal. what was that like? >> i remember walking in during the cam bridge scandal. he doesn't like doing on camera interviews. and i just remember it was this moment that so many people wanted to hear from mark zuckerberg. and for me having covered tech for years, it was this moment that tech had become mainstream because mpb wanted to know. everyone was jup set about facebook and the data scandal. and so you weave in and out of this company throughout the years and begin to understand why they are in the position they are in, what the challenging questions are going forward. that's what we try to do in this documentary is go back to the beginning and look at that. >> what do you hope people take away from the documentary tonight? >> i think it's really easy to look at facebook right now. but i also think you almost to understand where it is right
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now, you have to go back to that beginning. and i hope people look at the complications that the privacy scandals. they will get a better idea of mark zuckerberg. i don't think a lot of people know who mark zuckerberg is and. people want to know. and this it next phase of technology, which is very complicated, deserves our participation. deserves us being able to weigh in and understand the nuance and the debate around issues like free speech and data and privacy. educating ourselves and how we got to where we're at is very important. i hope people get that from taking a look at this tonight. >> look forward to seeing it. thank you. join lori as she talks with facebook insiders, what's really going on inside the most powerful social media company on earth. "facebook at 15" airs next. that does it for me tonight. thank you for joining us.
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i'm ana cabrera. have a great week ahead. hi, i'm mark zuckerberg. founder of facebook, an online social directory. >> built in a college dorm room. >> we were hoping for 500 people. >> a digital world of 2 billion plus. >> it's facebook's world. we're just living in it. >> it's an extraordinary thing. >> et we blinked and facebook became a part of the the fabric of society. >> the arab spring online and on facebook. >> but things got complicated. >> it was one of the first

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